City Council
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · November 17, 2009
Minutes
November 17, 2009
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS
City Council
Meeting
Agenda
6:30 PM P.H. – 2010 Proposed Budget
7:00 PM
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
SALUTE TO FLAG
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD / 15 MINUTES
PRESENTATION(S)
EXECUTIVE SESSION
CONSENT AGENDA
1. Approval of City Council Minutes 11-4-2009
2. Approve Budget Amendments
3. Approve Budget Transfers
4. Approve Capital Budget Transfer
5. Approve Payroll 11/06/2009 $406,399.95
6. Approve Payroll 11/13/2009 $448,828.77
7. Approve Warrant 2009 Mid MC1NOV09 $111,367.43
8. Approve Warrant 2009 Regular 2NOV09 $826,399.70
MAYOR’S DEPARTMENT
1. Discussion and Vote: Authorization for Mayor to Sign School Maintenance Agreement
2. Discussion and Vote: Authorization for Mayor to Sign Rental Agreement with the
Saratoga Springs City School District
3. Discussion and Vote: Authorization for the Mayor to Sign Rental Agreement with the
YMCA of Saratoga
4. Discussion and Vote: Authorization for the Mayor to Sign Rental Agreement with
Skidmore College
5. Discussion and Vote: Accept Donations and Basketball Sponsors
6. Discussion and Vote: Camp Saradac Buddy Safety Revision
7. Discussion and Vote: Accept Donation Visitor Center
8. Discussion and Vote: Referral to Planning Board for Advisory Opinion of Zoning Text
Amendment – 168 Lincoln Avenue
9. Discussion: Appellate Decision on Recreation Center Litigation
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ACCOUNTS DEPARTMENT
1. Award of Bid: Water Meters to EJ Prescott
FINANCE DEPARTMENT
1. Discussion and Vote: Department of Public Works Payroll Transfers
2. Discussion and Vote: Mayor’s Department Payroll Transfers
3. Discussion and Vote: Recreation Department Payroll Transfers
4. Discussion and Vote: City Center Authority Payroll Transfers
5. Discussion and Vote: Accounts Payroll Transfer
6. Discussion and Vote: Department of Public Safety Payroll Transfers
7. Discussion: Budget Workshops
8. Discussion: City Finances
PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT
1. Set Public Hearing: Amend the Capital Budget – Church St. Reconstruction Project
2. Discussion and Vote: Authorization for Mayor to Sign a Change Order for Creighton
Manning - Church Street Reconstruction
3. Discussion and Vote: Authorization for the mayor to Sign a Contract with Delsignore
Construction – Church St. Reconstruction
4. Discussion and Vote: Authorization for the Mayor to Sign a Contract with Rifenburg –
Nelson Avenue Drainage Phase IV
5. Discussion and Vote: Authorization for the Mayor to Sign Carpenter-Roslund-Visitor
Center
6. Set Public Hearing: Street Acceptance – Floral Estates
PUBLIC SAFETY
1. Discussion and Vote: Change Order to Wolfe Security Contract
SUPERVISORS
Joanne Yepsen
1. Saratoga County 2010 Budget
2. Legislative Report – 11/17 Board of Supervisors Meeting
3. NYS Assembly Public Hearing for the Guardian House
4. Saratoga Children’s Theater for 2010
Matthew Veitch
1. Saratoga County 2010 Budget
2. Saratoga Gaming and Raceway Foundation 2009 Grants
3. NYRA Local Advisory Board
ADJOURN
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City of Saratoga Springs
City Council Meeting
City Council Room
Tuesday, November 17, 2009
6:30 PM
PRESENT: Scott Johnson, Mayor
Ken Ivins, Commissioner of Finance
John Franck, Commissioner of Accounts
Anthony Scirocco, Commissioner of DPW
Ron Kim, Commissioner of DPS
PRESENT: Matthew Veitch, Supervisor
Joanne Yepsen, Supervisor
STAFF PRESENT: Shauna Sutton, Deputy Mayor
Kate Jarosh, Deputy Commissioner, Finance
Michele Boxley, Deputy Commissioner, Accounts
Eileen Finneran, Deputy Commissioner, DPS
Joe Scala, City Attorney
ABSCENT: Patrick Design, Deputy Commissioner, DPW
RECORDING OF PROCEEDING
The proceedings of this meeting were taped for the benefit of the secretary. Because the minutes are not a
verbatim record of the proceedings, the minutes are not a word-for-word transcript.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
2010 Proposed Budget
Mayor Johnson opened the public hearing at 6:35 p.m.
Commissioner Ivins advised tonight we will be taking public comments. He has been meeting with various
Council members regarding changes they would like to see. He is taking those changes into effect along
with the comments they will be hearing tonight and some new facts. It is projected that we will collect $8.2
million in sales tax. He had budgeted $8 million, so he is comfortable with that number. He is not
comfortable with the number he put in for mortgage tax. Last October we brought in $252,000 in mortgage
tax, this October we brought in $76,000; a huge decrease. He will probably be comfortable with a
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mortgage tax number of $1 million. On Thursday there is a budget workshop meeting at 10:00 a.m. where
he will present the budget changes. There will be another budget workshop on Monday at 6:00 p.m. There
will be more public comment at that time. The goal is to finalize the budget by next Monday.
John Krause of 227 Grand Avenue congratulated all the winners of the recent election. There are still a
number of serious budget issues to be addressed. He sent Commissioner Ivins and Commissioner Franck
a list of his concerns. There are major tasks to accomplish: staff reductions, contract negotiations,
implement a paid parking plan, sell the Lillian’s Lot, avoid a year end deficit, build the reserve up to 10%,
address the issue of a public safety facility, and balance the water and sewer budget without a usage rate
increase. He also stated the article in the Sunday paper by Joe Dalton regarding the paid parking was
great. The only thing he didn’t include was solutions for the budget gap. He is concerned that because the
election is over, the 2010 budget and tax rate is no longer a campaign issue. This may cause
consideration for closing the budget gap by increasing the tax rate greater than 7.81%. This must not
happen. You have the charge to find and implement the solutions.
David Bronner of 5 Royal Henley Court stated in his opinion, a strong message was sent by the residents
that they want government spending to be reduced. They also sent a message that they want property tax
increases kept to a minimum. Voters also stated they don’t want a police station in a down ecomony – they
voted against those who were for the police station. The voters supported the relocation of the recreation
center. By bringing the center closer to downtown, any business generated from the use of the center has
a better chance of coming to our downtown that going to Wilton. Also, by placing the recreation center on
the southside, the building is closer to the youths who need it the most. The voters also want huge
expenditures, especially in the Department of Public Safety brought under control. It is time for the unions
to make significant concessions. He is retired military after 30 years. He has never had fully covered
medical insurance since the day he retired, he pays 20%. Voters also sent the message that they are tired
of hearing union officials complain at each Council meeting about the affects of reducing costs and
personnel; but they don’t offer any solutions other than to spend more tax dollars and to further burden the
taxpayers of the City. We always hear from the union heads, he would like to hear from the leadership – the
poice chief and the fire chief – of what the proposed cuts would do. The head of the police union lives in
Wilton, so he doesn’t have much of a fiscal stake in this. The police union head wants the people to
believe if there are cuts to the force there will be a crime wave sweep through the City; that is not true. The
head of the fire union acts like the whole City will burst into flames if we make reductions in the Fire
Department. This Council needs to listen to the voters and reduce spending, reduce the number of City
employees as needed, keep the property tax to a reasonable amount, and get our fiscal house in order.
These cuts should have been made in the May/June timefram. He attended the meeting held in the music
hall. You could hardly walk up the sidewalk with all the union brothers being here from other cities. He
made comment at that meeting and received threats as he walked out of the building. An example of a
threat is “call the EMTs, an old man just fell down the stairs leaving the music center.” We can’t be
intimidated by these union members who think if they push hard enough with those type of tatics that we
will back away from cuts and insisting they make concessions.
Jeff Pfiel of 340 Broadway stated he is concerned about the paid parking in Saratoga Springs. The article
written by Joe Dalton over the weekend was right on. The only thing his article doesn’t address is the
parking for employees. People in Clifton Park and Albany are lowering their rents. If employers have to
supplement employees to park, they are going to lose tenants. We need to keep the employees and
tenants here. He asked the Council not to consider paid parking as part of this budget.
Kyle York of 59 Railroad Place congratulated everyone on their elections. The big item here is will there be
cuts to fire and police. We are not isolated to the economy. Many other cities who have proposed or
considered cutting fire and police. This is not unique and you have to deal with it. The voters made it clear
that this is not about fire and police, it is about cutting the budgets of those departments. The
commissioner of finance asked those departments to cut their budget by 5%, but he was told it couldn’t be
done. All that make up that 5% is staff reductions. He studied paid parking for the past 2 ½ years from
various cities. Doom and gloom was being stated by every chamber. People get to park for free for 2
hours now before getting a ticket. If we have paid parking, we get the money for those 2 hours plus the fee
for a parking ticket if the parking meter ticket runs out. Promises made to not meter Broadway or to keep
parking fees low, is only as good as the prsent Council is in place.
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Gary Benacassa of 20 Appletree Lane, Wilton, the DPW Union President stated DPW agreed to a zero
percent raise, one health insurance company, and offered the Canadian Drug Plan. What more do you
guys want? Layoffs are not the answer to saving the City money. They are already working with less staff
than in previous years. There is no other than the City of Saratoga Springs fire and police that he would
want to aid him or his family in the need of an emergency.
Wade Davis of 13 Sunset Drive stated he came from Albany. Albany has drugs, gangs, etc. and we have it
here. He works on the midnight shift. Wanting to cut 25% of the patrol is a lot. There has been talk about
$800,000 overtime in the budget. It is a lot, but this is because they are understaffed.
Kevin Genier of 51 Hathorn Boulevard and President of the Firefighter’s Union read the following
facts/information from the packet he provided the Council at the last meeting: there were 55 firefighers in
1976, there 56 in 2009; the City’s population has increased 10 fold in 30 years; firefighter to citizen ratio is
1:530; the capital region average is 1:390; 1 fire house covers 14 square miles. The fiction is we spend
too much money on the fire and EMS protection; the fact is the Fire Department has consistantly come in
under budget. The fiction is overtime costs are out of control and getting worse; the fact is overtime costs
have been trending downward and is now less than 4% of the Fire Department’s overal expenditures.
Partnering with the taxpayers – the fiction is the union never gives back; the fact is the union proposed
physical fitness standards to help reduce injuries and abscences due to injuries. Other facts include: the
union proposed and accepted reduced salary increases to pay for associated costs to a new retirement
plan, the firefighters accepted the City’s proposal to contribute to health care costs (80% plus of union
members contribute to health care with 100% contribution within 3 years). In 2006 the firefighters accepted
a proposal to reduce their starting pay by over $10,000. This reduction remains in place for 3 years.
Saratoga Springs Fire Department provides a valued service. They continue to meet demands despite
being understaffed.
Robert Murphy of 86 Brook Road, Saratoga, stated he is also a member of the firefighters union. They
have only had 1 new position in the past 30 years and functioned just fine under the City budget before the
VLT revenue. We got the VLT revenue, then it left, now we have a budget crisis. Their overtime is down
and their staffing is the same. He can’t understand why we can’t support a fire department that hasn’t
grown since before the VLT revenue.
Mayor Johnson kept the public hearing open as there will be another public hearing period on Thursday.
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Johnson called the meeting to order at 7:13 p.m.
PUBLIC COMM IENT PERIOD
Mayor Johnson opened the public comment period at 7:03 p.m.
Mayor Johnson said the public comment period is limited to a total of 15 minutes and individuals are
limited to two minutes each according to the rules approved in February of 2004 by the City Council.
Larry King of 126 Nelson Avenue stated he saw the proposed zoning change on the agenda for Siro’s. He
lives near there and is not against it. There are some issues with the parking requirements. They don’t
have a way to meet the parking requirements on a year round basis. The neighbors are going to work with
John Carusone. He wants to make sure the process is kept clear on how the rules will function.
Dave Bronner of 5 Royal Henley Court stated what was not said during the comments regarding the fire
fighters are the firefighting equipment is superior to what we had 33 years ago. The number of firefighters
need in 1976 and today might not be comparable. It was also said the firemen are contributing to their
health insurance. He would be interested in knowing what the percentage is.
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Al Callucci of 9 Lexington Road stated he his holding his commentary on the budget until he sees all the
numbers. We are so tied up in the budget that we are becoming unaware of what is going on around us.
There are 18 buildings for sale from here down the next 4 blocks. The thing we haven’t addressed is what
we are going to do to promote growth in our City. If we don’t generate revenue, we will continue on this
cycle. One thing that is missing, and is part of this Charter type of government, is there is no accountability
here – if a department is over budget, there is no accountability. Parking ticket revenues are probably going
to be down $200,000. If we are short of parking and we are not generating more tickets, there is something
wrong.
Kevin Genier of 51 Hathorn Blvd. stated if you are going to look into how many firefighters it takes to put out
a fire, he would hope a professional would be asked. In regards to an article in the Saratogian on Sunday,
a comment was made that it is time for the unions to become part of the solution instead of being part of the
problem. The people in the police department and the fire department are workers in this City, not union
members. If you accept this budget with the cuts that are in it, you will be putting people in danger.
Remijia Foy of 95 Oak Street stated she has to comment on Al Callucci’s takes on our situation. When all
else fails – blame the system. That doesn’t hold any water. Gloversville, who has another form of
government, and Schenectady, who has a strong mayor, is both faced with a fiscal crisis. We have a failed
state legislature. We are in a state of denial. The headlines have not said with an unemployment rate of
10% we are in a depression. We have a national financial crisis, it is not the system; it is not our
commission form of government. What you do tonight and in the next few days will impact 2010, 2011, and
into 2013. We are all going to have to make a sacrifice. Make a sacrifice, pitch in and help the taxpayers
as well as the City employees. It is a test of management skills.
Commissioner Kim stated there was a statement about the parking revenues we will be $200,000 under
budget. That is not true. As of October 31, 2009, we are about $80,000 down from what we totally
collected in 2008. We wrote about 500 more tickets than in 2008. They expect to meet their revenue
projections.
Mayor Johnson closed the public comment closed at 7:28.
Consent Agenda
Mayor Johnson moved and Commissioner Ivins seconded to approve the consent agenda as proposed.
1. Approval of City Council Minutes 11-4-2009
2. Approve Budget Amendments
3. Approve Budget Transfers
4. Approve Capital Budget Transfer
5. Approve Payroll 11/06/2009 $406,399.95
6. Approve Payroll 11/13/2009 $448,828.77
7. Approve Warrant 2009 Mid MC1NOV09 $111,367.43
8. Approve Warrant 2009 Regular 2NOV09 $826,399.70
Commissioner Ivins explained the 2009 regular warrant 2NOV09 is now $825,664.34 due to vouchers
being pulled during the auditing process.
Ayes – All
Mayor’s Department
Discussion and Vote: Authorization for Mayor to Sign School Maintenance Agreement (09-325)
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Mayor Johnson moved and Commissioner Ivins seconded to authorize the mayor to sign the school
maintenance agreement as proposed .
Mayor Johnson explained this is for the maintenance of the east and west side recreation fields. This is an
annual agreement and a proposal to extend the term of it from September 1, 2009 through December 31,
2010. The city attorney worked extensively with the district to better protect the city and the school district.
Ayes - All
Discussion and Vote: Authorization for the Mayor to Sign Rental Agreement with the Saratoga Springs City
School District (09-326)
Mayor Johnson moved and Commissioner Ivins seconded to authorize the mayor to sign a rental
agreement with the Saratoga Springs City School District as proposed .
Linda Terricola stated this is an annual agreement for various gyms. This is the last annual agreement as
we will be using our own facility when it opens in the spring. The old rate was $25/hr. and the new rate is
$26/hr.
Mayor Johnson confirmed that is within budget.
Linda advised it is within budget.
Ayes – All
Discussion and Vote: Authorization for the Mayor to Sign Rental Agreement with the YMCA of Saratoga
(09-327)
Mayor Johnson moved and Commissioner Ivins seconded to authorize the mayor to sign a rental
agreement with the YMCA of Saratoga as proposed .
Linda Terricola explained the change is from $10/hr. to $15/hr. Everything else remains the same.
Mayor Johnson confirmed this is for use for the winter program for the Recreation Department.
Linda advised this if for the girls and boys basketball City program.
Ayes – All
Discussion and Vote: Authorization for the Mayor to Sign a Rental Agreement with Skidmore College (09-
328)
Mayor Johnson moved and Commissioner Scirocco seconded to authorize the mayor to sign a rental
agreement with Skidmore College as proposed .
Linda Terricola explained there is no change with this agreement. The hourly rate of $10/hr. is donated by
Skidmore College. The dollar amount is in place in case of overtime or the need for additional hours.
Mayor Johnson stated these fees are self sustaining.
Ayes – All
Discussion and Vote: Accept Donations from Basketball Sponsors (09-329)
Mayor Johnson moved and Commissioner Scirocco seconded to accept the donations as listed.
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Linda advised donations are as follows: Christmas Wish in the amount of $330, 22 basketballs valued at
$29.99 each from Bob Farley, Mor-Is-Stored donated office equipment at the value of $500 for the new
indoor recreation facility, Saratoga National Bank for a $275 basketball sponsorship, Ernie Mann-Mann
Wireless for a $275 basketball sponsorship, Stewart’s Shops for $275 for a basketball sponsorship,
Cudney’s Launderers for a $275 for basketball sponsorship, Allerdice Building Supply for a $275 for
basketball sponsorship, Holiday Inn for a $275 for basketball sponsorship, and Afsco Fence Supply for a
$275 for basketball sponsorship.
Ayes – All
Discussion and Vote: Camp Saradac Buddy Safety Revision (09-330)
Mayor Johnson moved and Commissioner Ivins seconded to accept the Camp Saradac Buddy Safety
revisions as distributed to the Council.
Linda explained these are revisions for the Camp Saradac Buddy Safety Program. Campers are going to
be assessed with their physical abilities for each camp activity. There is a list prepared for each waterfront
activity.
Ayes – All
Discussion and Vote: Accept Donation Visitor Center (09-331)
Mayor Johnson moved and Commissioner Franck seconded to accept the donation for the Visitor
Center from Ben and Jerry ’s in the amount of $500.
Mayor Johnson thanked Ben & Jerry’s for the donation. It was unsolicited and is appreciated.
Ayes – All
Discussion and Vote: Referral to Planning Board for Advisory Opinion of Zoning Text Amendment – 168
Lincoln Avenue (09-332)
Mayor Johnson moved and Commissioner Franck seconded to refer the zoning text amendment for 168
Lincoln Avenue to the Planning Board for consideration and advisory opinion.
Mayor Johnson stated they are looking to change the wording of a portion the institutional horse track
related section of the zoning ordinance that will allow them to operate the restaurant (not the outside
portion) on a year round basis. Currently the existing ordinance limits the use to 90 days. The question is if
there is sufficient merit to send it to the Planning Board for their review. The text amendment tries to seek
a ‘grandfather’ status for Siro’s as they have been in operation for about 75 years in that location.
Commissioner Franck stated there have been problems over the years with that property relating to outside
music. He doesn’t have problems with the restaurant being open, but he does have concerns about
parking. Maybe they can use some of the outside property they own to accommodate the parking. He will
vote for the affirmative. It is important for the owners of the property to try and work something out with the
local people.
Mayor Johnson stated he echoes that sediment being it is a residential area. The Planning Board needs to
look at all aspects of this. He suggested sending their concerns with the referral to the Planning Board.
Commissioner Scirocco asked if this would open the door for any other businesses in that area of the same
type.
Mayor Johnson stated he believes Siro’s is the only one that has that type of limitation. The other
businesses are year round businesses.
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Commissioner Franck stated he is not against it being in the neighborhood. The concern is from his
understanding is the parking as they don’t own their own parking. Another concern is in the spring before
the track opens there is no out door celebrations.
Commissioner Ivins stated what he has heard about relates to noise. The neighbors understand it during
the track season but they are concerned about it being year round.
Mayor Johnson stated the issue of noise and parking would be part of the SEQRA process that would need
to be done before this can be approved.
Ayes – All
Discussion: Appellate Decision on Recreation Center Litigation
Mayor Johnson informed the public that the State of New York Supreme Court Appellate Division issued a
decision on November 12, 2009 that affirmed the lower court dismissal of the litigation brought against the
City by the group known as ‘Friends of the Southside”. The appellate decision was unanimous by all 5
judges. This is a complete vindication of the process we followed. The City was within its power and
followed the proper procedure. This was the last legal step that can be taken. The recreation center is on
track to be completed by April 1, 2010 and is under budget.
Accounts Department
Award of Bid: Water Meters to EJ Prescott (09-333)
Commissioner Franck moved and Commissioner Scirocco seconded to accept the 2010 price list for
water meters from EJ Prescott.
Commissioner Franck stated they are the sole distributor of Sensor water meters.
Ayes - All
Finance Department
Discussion and Vote: Department of Public Works Payroll Transfers (09-334)
Commissioner Ivins moved and Commissioner Scirocco seconded to approve the Public Works payroll
transfers as previously distributed to the Council.
Commissioner Ivins stated this is: a general fund transfer to overtime Engineering Office from
administrative assistant line; sewer fund transfer to sewer administration overtime line from sewer pumps
overtime line; and capital fund transfer from capital outlay for Gilbert Road Waterline and Vanderbilt Storm
projects to the labor and social security lines to cover actual anticipated costs.
Ayes - All
Discussion and Vote: Mayor’s Department Payroll Transfers (09-335)
Commissioner Ivins moved and Mayor Johnson seconded to approve the Mayor’s Department payroll
transfers as previously distributed to the Council.
Commissioner Ivins advised this is: a transfer from building inspector, assistant building & construction
inspector to building inspector seasonal and assistant building inspector; transfer from building overtime
and Heritage Area Coordinator to Heritage Area Specialist and UHAP overtime to cover lump sum payout;
to new/correct line program and visitor center assistant part time and to visitor center clerk part time to
cover anticipated costs; transfer from Mayor's Office part time clerk to legal part time clerk to cover
vacations; transfer from office equipment to phone operator part time to cover vacation.
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Ayes - All
Discussion and Vote: Recreation Department Payroll Transfers (09-336)
Commissioner Ivins moved and Mayor Johnson seconded to approve the Recreation Department
payroll transfers as previously distributed to the Council.
Commissioner Ivins stated this is a transfer from bowling, baseball, cheerleading, field hockey, boys’
lacrosse, girls’ lacrosse, volleyball and soccer supervision lines to recreation equipment, service contracts,
office equipment and travel lines.
Ayes - All
Discussion and Vote: City Center Authority Payroll Transfers (09-337)
Commissioner Ivins moved and Mayor Johnson seconded to approve the City Center Authority payroll
transfers as previously distributed to the Council.
Commissioner Ivins advised this is re-adjustment of payroll lines for year end and expansion.
Ayes - All
Discussion and Vote: Accounts Payroll Transfer (09-338)
Commissioner Ivins moved and Commissioner Franck seconded to approve the Accounts Department
payroll transfers as previously distributed to the Council.
Commissioner Ivins stated this is a transfer from zoning books and repairs line to senior clerk part time.
Ayes – All
Discussion and Vote: Department of Public Safety Payroll Transfer (09-339)
Commissioner Ivins moved and Commissioner Kim seconded to approve the Public Safety Department
payroll transfers as previously distributed to the Council.
Commissioner Ivins stated this is a transfer from DWI patrol overtime to equipment and supplies lines for
purchase of Stalker Radar Unit.
Ayes – All
Discussion: Budget Workshop
Commissioner Ivins stated there will be a budget workshop on Thursday at 10:00 am in the City Council
Room. He will be presented the amended budget at that time and make it available to the public through
the normal sources (i.e. website, city clerk). The intent is to hold public comments on Monday and take a
vote at that time.
Discussion: City Finances
Commissioner Ivins reported sales tax is in for September. We are only $6,500 down from September of
2008. Looks like we will bring in $8.2 million for 2009 – he is budgeting $8 million for 2010. Mortgage tax is
a big concern; $1.2 million was brought in last year. October of 2008 we brought in $252,000 and this year
we brought in $76,000; a huge decrease. He will be changing the mortgage tax in the 2010 budget from
$1.5 million to $1 million.
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Public Works Department
Set Public Hearing: Amend the Capital Budget – Church St. Reconstruction Project
Commissioner Scirocco set the public hearing for Tuesday, December 1, 1009 at 6:55 p.m. This is a capital
budget amendment for $255,616.
Discussion and Vote: Authorization for the Mayor to Sign a Change Order for Creighton Manning – Church
St. Reconstruction (09-340)
Commissioner Scirocco moved and Commissioner Ivins seconded to authorize the mayor to sign a
change order for Creighton Manning for the Church St. Reconstruction project in the amount of $1,500.
Commissioner Scirocco stated Paul Male is here to answer any questions.
Paul Male stated the $1,500 is for additional right of way costs to secure the properties.
Commissioner Ivins confirmed this amount is in the budget.
Paul advised it is in the stimulus package money.
Ayes – All
Discussion and Vote: Authorization for the Mayor to Sign a Contract with Delsignore Construction – Church
St. Reconstruction Project (09-341)
Commissioner Scirocco moved and Mayor Johnson seconded to authorize the mayor to sign the
contract with Delsignore Construction for the Church St. Reconstruction Project in the amount of $2,
641,547.00 and the money is in the capital budget.
Commissioner Scirocco stated this is a fully funded stimulus project.
Commissioner Ivins asked Paul Male to explain this agenda item to the public.
Mayor Johnson stated the issue is to explain the delay between the award of the contract and the contract
now being presented for execution.
Paul Male advised the contract was awarded by the Council on 8/18/09 for $2,642,547. The number the
commissioner stated is the correct amount. This project was originally going to be done under DOT
funding which was an 80/15/5 project. At the time the stimulus funding was approved, this was a shovel
ready project that we submitted and it was accepted. It changed all the reporting requirements and
documentation that was required. We had not done one of these projects before. The paperwork did not
come in the same format and time like the prior projects came in. The agreements were sent to us from
Delsignore and were signed by them; all bonds and insurance requirements were received. It was a
combination of all these things as to why it too so long to bring this contract to the mayor to be signed.
Mayor Johnson stated there was discussion during the pre-agenda meeting regarding the City’s exposure
to potential liability in the interim between the award of bid and the signing of the contract with the work
progressing in that interim period. It has since come to his attention that there were hold harmless
agreements executed and indemnity provisions that would protect the City.
Paul Males stated as far as he knows all the documentation we had was received by the appropriate city
officials – city attorney and risk and safety manager.
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Marilyn Rivers stated she checked the bid documents after yesterday’s pre-Council meeting. There was an
insurance guarantee certificate and the hold harmless crafted by the City indicates that even if the City
doesn’t have the certification of insurance, which we didn’t at the time of the award of bid, the City would
still be indemnified and held harmless. We are taking a close look at the contract administration protocol to
streamline it moving forward and try to stop these bumps and bruises. The preliminary documents were in
place to assist us in managing our liability.
Mayor Johnson stated he will support this tonight as all this work has been done, and to not jeopardize the
stimulus funding. In the future he wants more attention to the timely execution of a contract after the award
of bid. It is not good for the City and raises potential issues. We should not be operating that way as a City.
Ayes – 4
Nays – 1 (Commissioner Franck)
Discussion and Vote: Authorization for the Mayor to Sign a Contract with Rifenburg – Nelson Avenue
Drainage Phase IV (09-342)
Commissioner Scirocco moved and Commissioner Ivins seconded to authorize the mayor to sign a
contract with Rifenburg for the Nelson Avenue Drainage Phase IV in the amount of $487,880.00 and
funding is in the budget.
Ayes – All
Discussion and Vote: Authorization for the Mayor to Sign Carpenter-Roslund – Visitor Center (09-343)
Commissioner Scirocco moved and Mayor Johnson seconded to authorize the mayor to sign a contract
with Carpenter-Roslund for the Visitor Center for the exterior wall repairs in the amount of $19,790.
Commissioner Franck confirmed there will not be any change orders.
Commissioner Scirocco stated there will be no change orders that he is aware of.
Commissioner Franck stated he can support this as long as it is under $20,000.
Mayor Johnson confirmed this is remedial work.
Commissioner Scirocco asked Paul Male to explain.
Paul Male advised this is the corner that has severely deteriorated. Now the mirror image of the other side
doesn’t have the damage now but you can see where it will in the near future. They are also going to take
some precautions on that side.
Ayes - All
Set Public Hearing: Street Acceptance – Floral Estates
Commissioner Scirocco set the public hearing for Tuesday, December 1, 2009 at 6:50 p.m.
Public Safety Department
Discussion and Vote: Change Order for Wolfe Security Contract (09-344)
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City Council Meeting
11/17/09
Commissioner Kim moved and Commissioner Scirocco seconded to authorize the mayor to sign a
change order to the contract with Wolfe Security.
Ayes – All
Supervisors
Joanne Yepsen
Saratoga County 2010 Budget
Supervisor Yepsen reported board met on Friday. There will be a public hearing on December 3rd at 5:30
pm. It is a $278 million budget with a reduction in spending. They will be using some of their reserve fund.
Amendments were given to ensure there will not be any layoffs at the County. They did consolidate some
positions and reduced some work hours. The vote on the final budget will be December 9th.
Legislative Report from 11/17 Board of Supervisors’ Meeting
Supervisor Yepsen reported they met today. There will be a special meeting tomorrow sponsored by the
County’s Economic Development Committee. It will focus on SEDC to talk about best practices at work in
Saratoga County.
NYS Assembly Public Hearing for the Guardian House
Supervisor Yepsen reported she participated in a public hearing yesterday in NYC. It was held to
communicate and learn more about homeless women veterans. There will be recommendations made
based upon this public hearing. We are on the state’s radar screen for the state’s project.
Saratoga Children’s Theater for 2010
Supervisor Yepsen reported that the Children’s Theater submitted a proposal to the City. She spoke with
Commissioner Scirocco today regarding how we can better use the music hall in the future to bring in
revenue. The scheduling and coverage is an issue for when the groups want to use the facility. She hopes
they can work with the non-profits, bring in revenue and allow the public to use the public facility so it can
be a win/win situation.
Matthew Veitch
Saratoga County 2010 Budget
Supervisor Veitch reported no new amendments were put forth in the budget. We are not adding new
positions at the County. They will be saving about $38,000 by not filling open positions and reclassifying
some of the jobs from full time to part time.
Saratoga Gaming and Raceway Foundation 2009 Grants
Supervisor Veitch reported this is his 2nd year as chair of this foundation. The foundation was created to
give back money to not for profit agencies. They had $30,000 again this year to give away. The foundation
has awarded to 17 different agencies.
NYRA Local Advisory Board
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City Council Meeting
11/17/09
Supervisor Veitch reported the board has sent a press release to urge the state to get the Aqueduct VLTs
going. It was determined that racing in Saratoga County has an economic impact of approximately $250
million dollars in a 9 county areas surrounding Saratoga County. They passed a resolution in February
urging the state to move quickly. The state loses approximately $1 million per day without VLTs. NYRA
wants to make capital improvements up to $100 million at Saratoga.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Johnson moved and Commissioner Ivins seconded to adjourn the meeting.
Ayes - All
There being no further business, Mayor Johnson adjourned the meeting at 8:14 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Lisa Ribis
Clerk
Approved: 12-1-09
Vote: 5 - 0
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Agenda
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS
City Council Meeting
November 17, 2009 City Council Room
06:30 PM P.H. - 2010 Proposed Budget
Print
7:00 PM
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
SALUTE TO FLAG
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD / 15 MINUTES
PRESENTATION(S):
EXECUTIVE SESSION:
CONSENT AGENDA
1. Approval of City Council Minutes for 11-4-2009
2. Approve Budget Amendments
3. Approve Budget Transfers
4. Approve Capital Budget Transfer
5. Approve Payroll 11/06/2009 $406,399.95
6. Approve Payroll 11/13/2009 $448,828.77
7. Approve Warrant 2009 Mid MC1NOV09 $111,367.43
8. Approve Warrant 2009 Regular 2NOV09 $826,399.70
MAYOR’S DEPARTMENT
1. Discussion and Vote: Authorization for Mayor to sign School Maintenance Agreement
2. Discussion and Vote: Authorization for the Mayor to sign rental agreement with the Saratoga Springs City
School District
3. Discussion and Vote: Authorization for the Mayor to sign rental agreeement with the YMCA of Saratoga
4. Discussion and Vote: Authorization for the Mayor to sign rental agreement with Skidmore College
5. Discussion and Vote: Accept Donations and Basketball Sponsors
6. Discussion and Vote: Camp Saradac Buddy Safety Revision
7. Discussion and Vote: Accept Donation Visitor Center
8. Discussion and Vote: Referral to Planning Board for Advisory Opinion of Zoning Text Amendment, 168
Lincoln Avenue
9. Discussion: Appellate Decision on Recreation Center Litigation
ACCOUNTS DEPARTMENT
1. Award of Bid: Water Meters to EJ Prescott
FINANCE DEPARTMENT
1. Discussion and Vote: Department of Public Works Payroll Transfers
2. Discussion and Vote: Mayor's Department Payroll Transfers
3. Discussion and Vote: Recreation Department Payroll Tranfers
4. Discussion and Vote: City Center Authority Payroll Transfers
5. Discussion and Vote: Accounts Payroll Transfer
6. Discussion and Vote: Department of Public Safety Payroll Transfers
7. Discussion: Budget Workshops
8. Discussion: City Finances
PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT
1. Set Public Hearing: Amend the Capital Budget - Church St Reconstruction Project
2. Discussion and Vote: Authorization for the Mayor to sign a Change Order for Creighton Manning - Church
St Reconstruction
3. Discussion and Vote: Authorization for the Mayor to sign a Contract with Delsignore Construction-
Church St Reconstruction
4. Discussion and Vote: Authorization for the Mayor to sign a Contract with Rifenburg - Nelson Ave
Drainage Phase IV
5. Discussion and Vote: Authorizatrion for the Mayor to sign Carpenter- Roslund- Visitor Center
6. Set Public Hearing: Street Acceptance- Floral Estates
PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT
1. Discussion and Vote: Change order to Wolfe Security contract
SUPERVISORS
1. Joanne Yepsen
1. Update on County 2010 Budget
2. Legislative Report from 11/17 Board of Supervisors Meeting
3. Participation in NYS Assembly Public Hearing for the Guardian House
4. Proposed revenue from the Saratoga Childrens' Theater for 2010 usage fo the Music Hall
2. Matthew Veitch
1. Update: Saratoga County 2010 Budget
2. Update: Saratoga Gaming and Raceway Foundation 2009 Grants
3. Update: NYRA Local Advisory Board
ADJOURN
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