Civil Service Commission
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · July 25, 2018
Minutes
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
WEDNESDAY JULY 25TH, 2018
MINUTES
PRESENT: MARK CACOZZA, CHAIRPERSON
ELIO DELSETTE, COMMISSIONER
PAUL KISSELBRACK, COMMISSIONER
CHAIRPERSON CACOZZA CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 9:30am and opened the public comment
section. There being no on wishing to speak, Chair Cacozza closed the public comment section at 9:31.
Commissioner DelSette made a motion to approve the June 2018 Meeting Minutes. Seconded by Commissioner
Kisselbrack. Ayes all.
ACCOUNTS
Commissioner Kisselbrack made a motion to approve the following Provisional Appointment(s). Seconded by
Commissioner DelSette. Ayes all.
Brook Jobin Assistant City Clerk Effective 07/23/18
DPW
Commissioner DelSette made a motion to approve the following Provisional Appointment(s). Seconded by Commissioner
Kisselbrack. Ayes all.
Kari Donohue Administrative Assistant Engineering Effective 07/09/18
Mary Castanza Senior Account Clerk Effective 07/23/18
Commissioner Kisselbrack made a motion to approve the following Non Competitive Appointment(s). Seconded by
Commissioner DelSette. Ayes all.
Glenn Raia Heavy Equipment Operator Effective 07/08/18
Kyle Phillips Motor Equipment Operator Effective 07/08/18
Commissioner DelSette made a motion to approve the following Labor Class Appointment(s). Seconded by
Commissioner Kisselbrack. Ayes all.
Vincent Kenyon Laborer Effective 07/08/18
HOUSING AUTHORITY
Commissioner Kisselbrack made a motion to approve the following job specifications. Seconded by Commissioner
DelSette. Ayes all.
Housing Authority Occupancy Specialist
Assistant Facilities Manager
MAYOR
Commissioner DelSette made a motion to approve the following Provisional Appointment(s). Seconded by commissioner
Kisselbrack. Ayes all.
Richard Tiersch Assistant Building and Construction Inspector Effective 07/16/18
Commissioner DelSette made a motion to approve the following Leave of Absence(s). Seconded by Commissioner
Kisselbrack. Ayes all.
Michael Carlson Effective 07/02/18 – 07/16/18
Richard Tiersch Effective 08/20/18 – 08/24/18
PUBLIC SAFETY
Commissioner Kisselbrack made a motion to approve the following Non Competitive Class Appointment(s). Seconded by
Commissioner DelSette. Ayes all.
Kelly Leabourne Senior Clerk (part time) Effective 07/16/18 – 12/31/18
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Commissioner DelSette made a motion to modify the agenda and move up the Civil Service discussion of Fire Captain.
Seconded by Commissioner Kisselbrack. Ayes all
Chair Cacozza provided a summarized background on the matter of the promotional Fire Captain exam that was
administered June 23rd 2018. An issue had arisen and was presented to the Commission concerning the possible
disqualification of 8 Firefighters in the Fire Captain exam. The issue to be discussed was whether the 8 candidates met the
minimum qualifications of Fire Captain as the were stated on the exam announcement; the minimum qualifications on the
exam announcement reflected the minimum qualifications as they were stated on the Fire Captain job description. A
request was made to the Civil Service Coordinator to extend the last filing date of the announcement, because there was
some confusion within the firehouse. The date was extended from the 16th of May to the 22nd of May. The Fire Chief
issued an email to the Union President that there was an extension on the last filing date, so that it could be distributed to
the firefighters. After the exam was administered, an anonymous grievance was place with NYS Civil Service, and the
complaint was that this individual was not granted the same opportunity to take the Fire Captains exam.
Cacozza asked the Fire Chief for some clarification on the sentence in that email that read “firefighters who met the
eligibility for Fire Lieutenant were able to take the Fire Captains exam”.
Fire Chief Williams’s response was that to take the exam and to be appointed were two different things in their opinion;
an individual could be on the Fire Captains eligible list and not be eligible for appointment-you cannot be appointed to
Fire Captain unless you are a Fire Lieutenant. Fire Chief used the comparison of for entry level Firefighters, an individual
could take the test while only being an EMT – but could not be considered for appointment until they were a Paramedic.
While that was their intent with the Fire Captains, he said he understood now that while implied, it may not have been
communicated.
Chair Cacozza asked that, per the Chiefs email, if there were not enough Lieutenants on the Captains eligible list, the top
Firefighters would be eligible for appointment- even though the job description clearly says that they must be a fire
Lieutenant. Fire Chief Williams said that that was where the communication needs to be clarified between the job
description and the exam announcement. Their intent is absolutely for the line of progression – Firefighter to Lieutenant to
Captain etc order, but, there was some concern that they would run into a situation where there were less than 3 names on
the eligible list; which is what will happen this time. There are only three Lieutenants who are taking the Captains exam.
Chair Cacozza asked if historically, if Firefighters were able to take both the Fire Lieutenant and Fire Captain exams?
Chief Williams’s response was yes, they have even had a few firefighters jump over Lieutenants to become a Fire
Captain-which is why we wanted the Lieutenants to have priority and preference over any Firefighters on the list,
regardless of grade placement. Chair Cacozza asked where that was written – Fire Chief Williams’s response was that it
was not written at this point.
Commissioner DelSette wanted to clarify that regardless of what the plans were for the job spec in the future, that right
now, what it says and how its read is what we must interpret and rely on while making this decision. Commissioner
DelSette went on to read an excerpt from an email on this situation from NYS Civil Service.
“The announcement, as published, is binding and is in the nature of a contract between the civil service commission and
the public. This not only includes the applicants, but it also includes those persons who may not have filed because they
read the announcement and concluded in good faith that they did not meet the specified minimum requirements. The
announcement should contain all necessary information related to the position, the examination and the application
process so that applicants have sufficient knowledge to make informed decisions as to their interest in the job.
We understand that the decision to allow these applicants to take the examination was made at the last minute in an effort
to accommodate the request of the Fire Chief and the union representing the firefighters.
We encourage local civil service agencies to be responsive to the needs of appointing authorities and organized labor
groups. Your agency should be commended for working with appointing authorities and organized labor groups.
Likewise, your appointing authorities and organized labor groups should be commended for communicating with your
agency to clarify what accommodations they require in order to successfully recruit and retain qualified employees.
We must stress, however, that such accommodations must be made within the constraints of the Civil Service Law and
rules. Such accommodations must also allow enough time for the new exam announcement to be disseminated. The Civil
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Service Rules of Saratoga Springs govern the time-frame for announcing open competitive examinations, and we
generally advise that the same time-frame be used as a guide for announcing promotion exams.”
Commissioner DelSette suggested rejecting this position and continue under the current spec-and prepare for another exam in the
future.
Chair Cacozza made a motion to disqualify the 8 Firefighters who applied for the Fire Captain exam. Seconded by Commissioner
DelSette. Ayes all. Motion carried.
DelSette made a motion to approve the following Temporary Appointment(s). Seconded by Commissioner Kisselbrack.
Ayes all.
Joseph DeCrosta Public Safety Dispatcher Effective 07/05/18 – 09/30/18
Sara Brennan Vehicle Traffic Controller Effective 07/10/18 – 09/03/18
Michael Cole Vehicle Traffic Controller Effective 07/10/18 – 09/03/18
Kristofer Dunn Vehicle Traffic Controller Effective 07/10/18 – 09/03/18
Julie Hastings Vehicle Traffic Controller Effective 07/10/18 – 09/03/18
Thomas Humes Vehicle Traffic Controller Effective 07/10/18 – 09/03/18
Cheryl LaPierre Vehicle Traffic Controller Effective07/10/18– 09/03/18
Tiffany Lucia Vehicle Traffic Controller Effective 07/10/18 – 09/03/18
Luke Mosseau Vehicle Traffic Controller Effective 07/10/18 – 09/03/18
Brian Noeker Vehicle Traffic Controller Effective 07/10/18 – 09/03/18
Myah Ondreyko Vehicle Traffic Controller Effective 07/10/18 – 09/03/18
Katelyn Reynolds Vehicle Traffic Controller Effective 07/10/18 – 09/03/18
Richard Robischon Vehicle Traffic Controller Effective 07/10/18 – 09/03/18
Luis Ruiz Vehicle Traffic Controller Effective 07/10/18 – 09/03/18
Juliana Santiago Vehicle Traffic Controller Effective 07/10/18 – 09/03/18
Janice Starteri Vehicle Traffic Controller Effective 07/10/18 – 09/03/18
Lucas Steele Vehicle Traffic Controller Effective 07/10/18 – 09/03/18
John Stowell Vehicle Traffic Controller Effective 07/10/18 – 09/03/18
Paul Swiers Vehicle Traffic Controller Effective 07/10/18 – 09/03/18
Ian Wetzel Vehicle Traffic Controller Effective 07/11/18 – 09/03/18
Noah Wetzel Vehicle Traffic Controller Effective 07/11/18 – 09/03/18
Julie Wilson Vehicle Traffic Controller Effective 07/10/18 – 09/03/18
Commissioner DelSette made a motion to approve the following Leave of Absence(s). Seconded by Commissioner
Kisselbrack. Ayes all.
Amber Tonkin Animal Control/Parking Enforcement Officer Effective 07/10/18 – 10/2/18
Commissioner Kisselbrack made a motion to approve the following Extension of Probation – 67 Days. Seconded by
Commissioner DelSette. Ayes all.
Amber Tonkin Animal Control/Parking Enforcement Officer
RECREATION
Commissioner Kisselbrack made a motion to approve the following Non Competitive Class Appointment(s). Seconded by
Commissioner DelSette. Ayes all.
Matthew Jensen Camp Counselor Effective 07/19/18
Taylor Lozier Camp Counselor Effective 07/23/18 – 08/31/18
Nicholas LoPresti Campo Counselor Effective 07/02/18
Addison Bonacio Recreation Assistant Effective 07/26/18 – 10/31/18
Elliot Lanne Recreation Assistant Effective 08/17/18
Autumn Soukup Recreation Assistant Effective 07/30/18 – 10/31/18
Trent Anthony Stokes Recreation Leader Effective 08/01/18
Mitchell Madigan Youth Parker Effective 07/18/18 – 09/4/18
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SCHOOL
Commissioner DelSette made a motion to approve the following Temporary Appointment(s). Seconded by Commissioner
Kisselbrack. Ayes all.
Tice Arpy Cleaner Effective 06/25/18 – 08/31/18
Grant Burns Cleaner Effective 06/25/18 – 08/31/18
Andrew Canjura Cleaner Effective 06/25/18 – 08/31/18
Michael Coppola Cleaner Effective 06/27/18 – 08/31/18
Christopher Daleney Cleaner Effective 06/25/18 – 08/31/18
Berry DaVaughn Cleaner Effective 06/25/18 – 08/31/18
Johathon Eckert Cleaner Effective 06/25/18 – 08/31/18
Zachary Ernst Cleaner Effective 06/27/18 – 08/31/18
Matthew Gailor Cleaner Effective 06/25/18 – 08/31/18
Nathaniel Greene Cleaner Effective 06/27/18 – 08/31/18
John Kelleher Cleaner Effective 06/27/18 – 08/31/18
Brian King Cleaner Effective 06/25/18 – 08/31/18
Vincent L’Hommedieu Cleaner Effective 06/25/18 – 08/31/18
Ryan Madulka Cleaner Effective 06/27/18 – 08/31/18
David Meidenbauer Cleaner Effective 06/25/18 – 08/31/18
Lorelei Meidenbauer Cleaner Effective 06/25/18 – 08/31/18
Calvin O’Connell Cleaner Effective 06/25/18 – 08/31/18
Kyle Ouimet Cleaner Effective 06/25/18 – 08/31/18
Morgan Peek-Britten Cleaner Effective 06/25/18 – 08/31/18
Matthew Querrard Cleaner Effective 06/25/18 – 08/31/18
Lena Ruggles Cleaner Effective 06/25/18 – 08/31/18
Connor Rumph Cleaner Effective 07/11/18 – 08/31/18
Robert Simpson Cleaner Effective 06/25/18 – 08/31/18
Samuel Smullen Cleaner Effective 06/25/18 – 08/31/18
Gillian Strothenke Cleaner Effective 06/25/18 – 08/31/18
Jakob Wiegand Cleaner Effective 06/27/18 – 08/31/18
Thiha Zaw Cleaner Effective 06/25/18 – 08/31/18
Dawn Champagne Keyboard Specialist Effective 07/01/18 – 08/31/18
Teacher Aide Effective 07/09/18 – 08/17/18
Rhonda Anderson Teacher Aide Effective 07/09/18 – 08/17 18
Choloe Olson Teacher Aide Effective 07/09/18 – 08/17/18
Aiden Scott Davies Teacher Aide Effective 07/09/18 – 08/17/18
Lillian Snyder Teacher Aide Effective 07/09/18 – 08/17/18
Commissioner Kisselbrack made a motion to approve the following Non Competitive Class Appointment(s). Seconded by
Commissioner DelSette. Ayes all.
Margaret Mary DeBlasis Senior Food Service Helper Effective 07/16/18
Imelda Hommel School Bus Assistant Effective 05/31/18
CIVIL SERVICE
Prepared by Corissa Salvo, Civil Service Coordinator
Approved on __09/18/18_____
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Agenda
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
WEDNESDAY JULY 25th, 2018 9:30AM
AGENDA
Roll Call
Public Comments
Approve June 26th 2018 Minutes
ACCOUNTS
Approve Provisional Appointment(s)
Assistant City Clerk (1) - Brook Jobin 07/23/18
DPW
Approve Provisional Appointment(s)
Administrative Assistant Engineering (1) - Kari Donohue 07/09/18
Senior Account Clerk (1) Mary Castanza – 07/23/18
Approve Non Competitive Class Appointment(s)
Heavy Equipment Operator (1) – Glenn Raia 07/08/18
Motor Equipment Operator (1) – Kyle Phillips 07/08/18
Approve Labor Class Appointment(s)
Laborers (1) – Vincent Kenyon 07/08/18
HOUSING AUTHORITY
Discuss and Approve Revision of Housing Authority Occupancy Specialist Job Specification
Discuss and Approve Revision of Assistant Facilities Manager Job Specification
MAYOR
Approve Provisional Appointment(s)
Assistant Building and Construction Inspector (1) – Richard Tiersch 07/16/18
Approve Leave of Absence(s)
Michael Carlson 07/02/18 – 07/16/18 and Richard Tiersch 08/20/18 – 08/24/18
PUBLIC SAFETY
Approve Non Competitive Class Appointment(s)
Senior Clerk (part time) - Kelly Leabourne 07/16/18
Approve Temporary Appointment(s)
Public Safety Dispatcher (1) Joseph DeCrosta 07/05/18 – 09/30/18
Vehicle Traffic Controller (21)
Approve Leave of Absence(s)- Amber Tonkin 07/10/18 – 10/02/18
Approve Extension of Probation 67 Days - Amber Tonkin
RECREATION
Approve Non Competitive Class Appointment(s)
Camp Counselor (3)
Recreation Assistant (2)
Recreation Leader (1)
Youth Parker (1)
SCHOOL
Approve Temporary Appointment(s)
Cleaner (27)
Keyboard Specialist (1)
Teacher Aide (5)
Approve the Non Competitive Appointment(s)
Senior Food Service Helper (1)
School Bus Assistant (1)
CIVIL SERVICE
Discuss and Vote Whether to Disqualify 8 Candidates From The Promotional Fire Captain Exam
Prepared by: Corissa Salvo, Civil Service Coordinator
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