Design Review Board
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · September 4, 2013
Minutes
DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION
MINUTES
WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 4, 2013
7:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL ROOM
PRESENT: Steven Rowland, Chairman; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman; Robert DeMarco; Richard Martin; Karen
Cavotta; Georgeanna Lussier
ABSENT: Robert West
STAFF: Bradley Birge, Administrator, Planning & Economic Development
CALL TO ORDER: Steven Rowland, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 7:09 P.M.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ANNOUNCEMENT OF RECORDING OF PROCEEDING:
Steven Rowland, Chairman stated the proceedings of this meeting are being recorded for the benefit of the secretary.
Because the minutes are not a verbatim record of the proceedings, the minutes are not a word-for-word transcript of the
recording.
A. APPLICATIONS UNDER CONSIDERATION:
1. 2013.097 MOHR SERVICE CENTER WALL SIGNAGE, 239 Washington Avenue, Architectural Review of 1 wall sign
for each of two structures (service center & car wash) within the Transect-5 Neighborhood Center District.
Applicant: David Mohr, Owner
Mr. Mohr stated they would like to replace and update the signage for the service center and new signage for the car wash.
The present back lit sign will be removed.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there were any further questions or comments from the Board. None heard.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
Georgeanna Lussier made a motion in the matter of the Mohr Service Center Wall Signage, 239 Washington Avenue, that
the application be approved as submitted. Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE: Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Robert DeMarco, in favor;
Richard Martin, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor; Georgeanna Lussier, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
2. 2013.098 ROOHAN DIRECTORY SIGNAGE, 519 Broadway, Historic Review of a directory sign within the Transect-6
Neighborhood Center District.
Applicant: Tom Roohan, Owner
Mr. Roohan is proposing new signage to be hung alongside the new door. This will be a single sign with listing of tenants
surrounded by a border. Vinyl lettering on an aluminum panel is proposed.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if there was any further questions or comments from the Board. None heard.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
Robert DeMarco made a motion in the matter of the Roohan Directory Sign, 519 Broadway that the application be approved
with the following conditions: that the signage be one piece; a border of approximately ¾" to be used surrounding the sign;
each tenant signage is to be separated with a similar border; the 4th tenant signage is to be submitted for administrative
approval. Richard Martin seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE: Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Robert DeMarco, in favor; Richard
Martin, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor; Georgeanna Lussier, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
3. 2013.092 STOCKWELL EXTERIOR RENOVATIONS, 172 Lake Avenue, Architectural Review of exterior renovations
(siding, windows, porch details) within the Urban Residential-3 District.
Applicant: Jim Stockwell, Owner
Mr. Stockwell stated they are looking to replace the windows, siding and porch.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, stated the Commission visited the site on caravan. Some attention is to be given to the front
porch. Concerns voiced by the Commission regarding the silt plates being completely rotted. This is a pretty neat little
house. Possibly a four square craftsman home. Some of the things we are seeing are not consistent with the customary
rhythm found with a four square house.
Mr. Stockwell stated he was looking remove the arches and solid panels on the porch and have railings with spindles. The
window locations will also be changed.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, stated the windows are not symmetrical; they appear to be randomly placed.
Discussion ensued regarding the window placement, and renovations. The front windows will remain the same, the shutters
will be removed.
Richard Martin discussed the arch on the porch roof, and he feels that they should remain. Square tapered columns are not
out of the question for this home. The original arch over the front stairs should remain as that is a character-defining feature
of this home. This house is important since it sits on the corner and gets quite a bit of attention.
Mr. Stockwell stated he would open the porch and it will have balusters and railings.
The Commission noted that more than 30" above grade would require handrails on the porch.
The Commission spoke regarding the possibility of an on site visit to review window placement both inside and outside.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, reviewed the materials to be used on the renovation.
The applicant stated he had already purchased the windows and siding for this project.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if there were any further questions or comments from the Board. None heard.
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Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
Richard Martin made a motion in the matter of the Stockwell Exterior Renovations, 172 Lake Avenue, that the application be
approved with the following conditions:
North Elevation:
Preserve porch ‘eyebrow’ over entrance stairs. Long parabolic porch arch to become a level header, supported by square
tapered columns. Rails and spindles to replace solid wall. Third floor 9/1 window to be preserved and repaired. Large first
floor window to be preserved and repaired.
West Elevation:
Most northern 1st floor window opening to be retained. Northern 2nd floor window opening to align with one below. Proposed
additional 2nd floor window to be removed from plan. Proposed 2nd floor double window to align with existing double unit on
1st floor.
South Elevation: Chimney to be retained. Existing 2nd floor window to be retained.
East Elevation: Northern most existing 1st and 2nd floor window openings to be retained and aligned.
All the trim details such as window corner boards, fascia, soffit etc., should be of a hard finish such as wood or a solid
composite.
The treatment of porch railings, guards, handrails, window style and grill patterns etc., will be reviewed by Administrative
Action. Revised set of final drawings reflecting approval shall be submitted by applicant.
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
Bradley Birge, Administrator, Planning and Economic Development asked the Commission to review elevations with window
placements for the record.
The Commission reviewed all elevations.
VOTE: Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, opposed; Richard Martin, in favor;
Karen Cavotta, in favor; Robert DeMarco, in favor; Georgeanna Lussier, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 5-1
4. 2013.096 YOUNG PORCH CONVERSION, 176 Spring Street, Historic Review of porch conversion to living space within
the Urban Residential-3 District.
Applicant: Gary and Jodi Young Agent: Bob Flansburg, Dreamscapes Unlimited
Mr. Flansburg provided the Commission with a visual presentation regarding this application. The existing porch to the rear
of the property will be replaced with the enclosed space allowing for a mudroom and laundry room. The iron fire escape
which exists on the home will remain. The addition is approximately 8 feet by 15 feet. All materials will match what currently
exists on the home. This is a residential district, no purview over color just recommendations.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, made a motion in the matter of the Young Rear Porch Conversion, 176 Spring Street, that
the application be approved with the following conditions: Applicant will provide cut sheets on doors, windows and light
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fixtures – to be approved administratively. Also the applicant will provide details on spindles and stair material. New side
elevations to be provided detailing the foundation height.
Georgeanna Lussier seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE: Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Robert DeMarco, in favor; Richard
Martin, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor; Georgeanna Lussier, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
5. 2013.093 53 PUTNAM STREET EXTERIOR RENOVATIONS, 53 Putnam Street, Historic Review of exterior
renovations to an existing building within the Transect – 6 District.
Applicant: Joe Balsamo, owner; Putnam Resources
Agent: Dave D’Amore, A and D Architecture and Design; Bill Willard, Bonacio Construction
RECUSAL: Steven Rowland, Chairman, recused himself from this application. Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, assumed
the duties of the chair.
Mr. D’Amore reviewed the updated site plan including the improvements and updated exterior details. A visual presentation
was provided. Areas of improvement were noted. The building is approximately 8800 square feet, and the site is 13,505
square feet. Landscaping plans were reviewed for the Board. The applicant is proposing two 40 foot green walls. The
planting area is located on the south east corner. There will be historic lighting fixtures installed per the City's regulations
and accent lighting was reviewed as well. Siding choice was discussed with the Board. The building color will be green.
Samples were provided to the Board. Red doors are proposed and color samples were provided for the Boards review.
Storm water management plan was reviewed for the Board.
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, asked if there were any further questions or concerns from the Board. None heard.
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
Karen Cavotta made a motion in the matter of the application of 53 Putnam Street, located at 53 Putnam Street , that the
application be approved with the following conditions: Applicant will provide on-site color samples to determine final color of
red canopy. Exterior lighting to be for accent, not bright illumination. Applicant to return for approval of any sign.
Richard Martin seconded the motion.
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE: Steven Rowland, Chairman, recused; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Robert DeMarco, in favor; Richard
Martin, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor; Georgeanna Lussier, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 5-0-1
Steven Rowland, Chairman, resumed the duties of the Chair.
6. 2013.099 NATIONAL GRID SUBSTATION ROOF REPLACEMENT, 50 Excelsior Avenue, Architectural Review of a
roof replacement within the Transect-5 District.
Applicant: National Grid Agent: Dennis Rigosu, Syvertsen Rigosu Architects
The applicant is looking to replace the slate roof which currently exists. The roof is leaking and needs to be repaired.
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Mr. Rigosu provided information to the Board outlining the disrepair of the roof. The applicant would like to use a simulated
slate for the new roof. Samples were provided for the Board's review.
Discussion ensued regarding the proposed roofing materials. It was the consensus of the Board that slate would be the
better material to be used for this roof.
Letter was received from the Samantha Bosshart, Saratoga Preservation Foundation, regarding 50 Excelsior Avenue and
was read into the record. This building is listed in the National Registry of Historic Places. The Foundation questioned the
fact that no documentation was provided regarding any structural issues and why the historic slate roof needs to be
replaced.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if there were any further questions or comments from the Board. None heard.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, made a motion in the matter of National Grid Substation Roof Replacement, 50 Excelsior
Avenue, that the application for roof replacement be approved with the following condition, that a natural slate be used
rather than an imitation product, in a similar color range as to the existing. A sample of which is to be provided to the Chair
for administrative approval. Richard Martin seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE: Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Robert DeMarco, in favor; Richard
Martin, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor; Georgeanna Lussier, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
7. 2013.01 ELLSWORTH ADVISORY OPINION TO THE PLANNING BOARD, Planning Board request for an advisory
opinion on the proposed mixed use development located at the south side of Division Street between Walworth Street
and Marvin Alley within the Division Street Planned Unit Development.
Applicant: Steven Ethier, Peter Belmonte, EB Alliance
Mr. Belmonte provided the Board with a presentation of the project. This project will be named City Square. It will capture
the character and nuances of the City of Saratoga. This is located at the south side of Division Street between Walworth
Street and Marvin Alley within the Division Street Planned Unit Development. We are building this project with architecture,
durable structures, and materials. We have four major areas to discuss: mass and scale, design element of the primary
structures, design elements of the connection between the primary and accessory structures, and the promenade area.
Historic colors will be used for choices in siding. All homes will have a two car garage except for the condos. Mr. Belmonte
reviewed all the design elements with the Board.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, stated the mass and scale is dense; however, downtown supports that. It is keeping in scale
with what surrounds it. It provides an urban transition. Roof penetrations are of a concern to this Board. Also air
conditioning units and meter bank locations, as well.
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, stated the articulation is great.
Robert DeMarco stated the row house concept is interesting.
Richard Martin stated the material diversification is great. Roof lines are complimentary.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
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Steven Rowland, Chairman, reviewed the requested advisory opinion from the Planning Board. At its June 12, 2013
meeting, the Planning Board voted 7-0 to request an advisory opinion from the Design Review Commission on this project
with a focus on the following:
- Mass and scale of proposed buildings, and within the context of the existing surrounding neighborhood including its
proximity to Franklin Square (National Register Historic District)
- Design elements of proposed townhomes including review of the proposed connection between structure and carriage
house
- Design elements of proposed mixed-use and multi-family buildings on Walworth Street
- Design and materials, color(s) of proposed buildings
- Proposed promenade and public civic space area
Steven Rowland, Chairman, stated based on the comments from the members of the Commission he feels comfortable
making a positive advisory opinion to the Planning Board. Mr. Rowland stated the following:
- Mass & scale:
The Commission views this proposed in-fill development as appropriately dense as presented, keeping in scale with existing
surrounding properties, and within the transitional range of residential to commercial properties in the urban core.
- Design elements:
The Commission applauds the applicant for the high level of design, architectural detail and quality of materials presented in
this proposal. The façade and roof articulation, window bays, and diversity of color and materials provide welcome texture
and interest to these building without over-ornamentation or unnecessary repetition. The wrap-around porches on corner
units provide critical architectural diversity and the Commission encourages the applicant to introduce larger, façade-length
porches to the detached single-family units on Marvin Alley.
The Commission notes that the presented illustrations do not indicate the location of electric/gas meter banks or A/C
condensing units, nor do the roofs or façades contain any penetrations for intake/exhaust venting. The Commission highly
recommends attention to these details to maintain the high quality of proposed design and construction. It is recommended
that all meter facilities be appropriately hidden from primary facades and screened (vegetative or architectural), as
necessary. Similarly, venting should occur through the roofs, rather than through façades, and all penetrations should be
hidden from primary focal points.
- Connections between principal and accessory structures:
Given the overall density of this project, the Commission discourages a full connection between principal and accessory
structures. No connections, so as to provide a sense of openness, or breezeway structures are preferred.
- Promenade and civic space:
The Commission views the proposed promenade very positively and believes that this is a welcome pedestrian feature in
this new in-fill development. The Commission suggests ‘softscape’ treatment of this area (lawn, landscaping, etc.) rather
than hard, structural elements. The applicant is encouraged to review the City’s recently approved Urban Master Plan for
appropriate tree planting and a variety of deciduous and coniferous plantings is suggested to provide for a 4-season effect.
The proposed development, as presented, will be a positive and welcome mixed use addition to this portion of the urban
core. It is hoped that the implementation and construction of these building will be consistent with the illustrated plans
provided to, and reviewed by, the Design Review Commission. Richard Martin seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE: Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Robert DeMarco, in favor; Richard
Martin, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor; Georgeanna Lussier, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
8. 2013.009 EXCELSIOR AVENUE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, 53 Marion Avenue, Architectural Review of final
exterior details for a new Retail building in the Transect-5 Neighborhood Center District.
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Applicant: Andre Schmidt Agent: Dean Devito, George Olsen, Olsen Architecture
Mr. Olsen stated they received Mass and Scale approval for the Fresh Market building at the last meeting. This second
building is similar to the Fresh Market building. We are looking to receive Mass and Scale for this building this evening.
This building has vertical board and batten, color scheme is simple. Some minor changes have been made to color and
textures. We also regrouped the windows on the north façade. The west elevation facing the parking lot is very similar to
the other elevations, except perhaps for the grading. Mr. Olsen reviewed elevations and minor changes with the Board.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
Richard Martin made a motion in the matter of the Excelsior Avenue Mixed Use Development, 52 Marion Avenue, that the
application be approved with the following conditions: corbel locations to be modified to fall between the windows. Applicant
to return for lighting and signage. Applicant to submit final revised set of record elevations. Georgeanna Lussier seconded
the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE: Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Robert DeMarco, in favor; Richard
Martin, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor; Georgeanna Lussier, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
9. 2013. 102 KWANG PAI BUILDING FAÇADE MODIFICATION, Gick Road, Architectural Review of material changes to
building façade within the Transect-4 District.
Applicant: Kwang Pai
Mr. Pai stated he is looking to improve the façade along the Route 50 side of the building. He would like to improve the
entire building however he currently is financially unable to do so at this time. He is trying to attract tenants for the office
space available. More curb appeal.
Discussion ensued regarding making the building more visible and to attract more attention along Route 50.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if there were any further questions or comments from the Board. None heard.
Georgeanna Lussier made a motion in the matter of the Kwang Pai Building Façade Modifications, 30 Gick Road, that the
application be approved as submitted on the attached plans. Richard Martin seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE: Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Robert DeMarco, in favor; Richard
Martin, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor; Georgeanna Lussier, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
ANNOUNCEMENT OF NEXT MEETING:
The next scheduled Caravan will be held on Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 5:00 P.M.
The next scheduled Design Review Commission meeting is Wednesday September 18, 2013 at 7:00 P.M.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Steven Rowland, Chairman made a motion to approve the following minutes with corrections as submitted. Tamie Ehinger
seconded the motion.
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- 06/19/2013 Design Review Commission Meeting
VOTE: Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Robert DeMarco, in favor; Richard
Martin, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor; Georgeanna Lussier, in favor; Robert West absent
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
- 07/01/2013 Design Review Commission Meeting
VOTE: Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Robert DeMarco, in favor; Richard
Martin, in favor; Karen Cavotta, absent ; Georgeanna Lussier, absent;
MOTION PASSES: 4-0
- 07/17/2013 Design Review Commission Meeting
VOTE: Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, absent; Robert DeMarco, absent; Richard
Martin, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor; Georgeanna Lussier, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 4-0
ADJOURNMENT:
Tamie Ehinger made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Richard Martin seconded the motion.
VOTE: Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Robert DeMarco, in favor; Richard
Martin, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor; Georgeanna Lussier, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
Steven Rowland, Chairman, adjourned the meeting at 11:20 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Diane M. Buzanowski
Recording Secretary
Approved: 10/16/13
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Agenda
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS Steven Rowland, Chair
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chair
DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION Richard Martin
Robert West
City Hall - 474 Broadway Karen Cavotta
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Robert DeMarco
Tel: 518-587-3550 fax: 518-580-9480 Georgeanna Lussier
www.saratoga-springs.org Jason Tommell, Alternate
Design Review Commission Meeting – Wednesday, September 4, 2013
City Council Room – 7:00 PM
AGENDA
Salute to the Flag
A. Applications under Consideration:
1. 2013.097 Mohr Service Center Wall Signage, 239 Washington Street, Architectural Review of 1 wall sign for
each of two structures (service center & car wash) within the Transect-5 Neighborhood Center District.
2. 2013.098 Roohan Directory Signage, 519 Broadway, Historic Review of a directory sign within the Transect-6
Neighborhood Center District.
3. 2013.092 Stockwell Exterior Renovations, 172 Lake Ave, Architectural Review of exterior renovations (siding,
windows, porch details) within the Urban Residential-3 District.
4. 2013.096 Young Porch Conversion, 176 Spring Street, Historic Review of porch conversion to living space
within the Urban Residential-3 District.
5. 2013.093 53 Putnam Street Exterior Renovations, 53 Putnam Street, Historic Review of exterior renovations
to an existing building within the Transect-6 District.
6. 2013.099 National Grid Substation Roof Replacement, 50 Excelsior Ave, Architectural Review of roof
replacement within the Transect-5 District.
7. 2013.101 Ellsworth Advisory Opinion to Planning Board, Planning Board request for advisory opinion on
proposed mixed-use development located at the south side of Division Street between Walworth Street and
Marvin Alley within the Division Street Planned Unit Development.
8. 2013.009 Excelsior Avenue Mixed Use Development, 52 Marion Ave, Architectural Review of final exterior
details for a new Retail builidng in the Transect-5 Neighborhood Center District.
9. 2013.102 Kwang Pai Building Façade Modification, 30 Gick Road, Architectural Review of material changes to
building façade within the Transect-4 District.
B. Approve Minutes: (6/19, 7/1, 7/17, 8/7)
Upcoming Meeting(s):
- Wednesday, September 18, 2013 (Caravan: Tuesday September 10, 2013 at 5:00pm)
- Wednesday, October 2, 2013 (Caravan: Tuesday September 24, 2013 at 5:00pm)
NOTE: This agenda is subject to change. To verify the actual agenda prior to the meeting, please contact the Office of Planning
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and Economic Development at 587-3550 extension 2533.
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