Design Review Board
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · March 15, 2017
Minutes
DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION
MINUTES (FINAL)
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 15, 2017
7:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL ROOM
PRESENT: Steven Rowland, Chairman;; Leslie DiCarlo; Chris Bennett;
Leslie Mechem, Cynthia Corbett
SKYPE: Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman
ABSENT: Richard Martin
STAFF: Bradley Birge, Administrator, Planning and Economic Development, City of Saratoga Springs
CALL TO ORDER: Steven Rowland, Chairman called the meeting to order at 7:02 P.M.
Steven Rowland, Chairman stated the proceedings of this meeting are being recorded for the benefit of the secretary.
Because the minutes are not a verbatim record of the proceedings, the minutes are not a word-for-word transcript of the
recording.
A. DRC APPLICATIONS UNDER CONSIDERATIONS:
1. 2013.075.1 THE SPRINGS DIRECTORY SIGNS, 60 Weibel Avenue, Architectural Review of 2 new
directory signs within the Transect-4 Urban Neighborhood District.
Agent: Daniel Roicki, Adirondack Sign Company
Mr. Roicki stated he is here to present tenant directory signage for both the south and north entrances. The North Entrance
signage will be raised slightly to accommodate the addition of a tenant directory. The South Entrance sign will be reduced in
size from a 3x8 sign to a 2x6 sign with a tenant directory beneath it. No additional lighting is proposed. The back panel will
be 1 inch aluminum tubing with divan faces. The tenant panels will also have divan painted faces screwed into the
background with stainless fasteners. These signs will be double sided.
Steven Rowland, Chairman suggested any changes to the tenant panel signage be approved administratively to avoid the
applicant having to return before the Commission when tenants change.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further questions or comments from the Commission. None heard.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
Leslie Mechem made a motion in the matter of The Springs Directory Monument Sign, 60 Weibel Avenue that the
application be approved with the following condition – any changes to the tenant directory signage panels be approved
administratively. Leslie DiCarlo seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE: Steven Rowland, Chairman in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Leslie DiCarlo, in favor;
Chris Bennett, in favor; Cynthia Corbett, in favor; Leslie Mechem, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
2. 2017.024.1 LAKE LOCAL EXPANSION, 550 Union Avenue, consideration of SEQRA Lead Agency
(Architectural Review) for a multi-phase expansion of activities within the Water-related Business District.
RECUSAL:
Commission Member Chris Bennett recused from this application.
Applicant/Agent: Mike Phinney, Principal Phinney Design; partner in this project;
John Hayes, Architect, Designer, Phinney Design; partner in this project
Mr. Phinney provided some history of the project. We began this project last November with a multi-faced development of
the property. We have submitted a compliance plan to document all the existing nonconforming conditions of the property
along with proposed corrective action. We are seeking the Commission’s approval of SEQRA Lead Agency Status deferral
to the Planning Board to continue with this project.
Steven Rowland, Chairman made a motion in the matter of the Lake Local Expansion, 550 Union Avenue, that the
DRC will defer SEQRA Lead Agency Status to the Planning Board should they request it. Cynthia Corbett seconded
the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Leslie DiCarlo, in favor;
Cynthia Corbett, in favor; Leslie Mechem, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 5-0
3. 2017.012 LAKE LOCAL SIGNAGE, 550 Union Avenue, Architectural Review of a freestanding sign within
the water related Business District.
RECUSAL:
Commission Member Chris Bennett recused from this application.
Applicant/Agent: Mike Phinney, Principal Phinney Design; partner in this project;
John Hayes, Architect, Designer, Phinney Design; partner in this project
Mr. Hayes stated the former restaurant had signage on a post. We removed the sign and replaced it with a new sign. We
did not go through the DRC for this signage approval. We have removed the new signage and are here this evening to
request a freestanding sign within the Water Related Business District. A submission of the signage graphics was updated
and was provided to the Commission. It is a mahogany framed sign. The core is a poly material with aluminum facing. It
has a vinyl coating. Mahogany is painted white. The existing lighting and mounting is being reused. Permission was
received from the DOT to keep signage in its current location.
Steven Rowland, Chairman stated the height of the proposed signage is fine.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further questions or comments from the Commission. None heard.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
Leslie DiCarlo made a motion in the matter of the Lake Local Signage, 550 Union Avenue that the application be approved
as submitted. Leslie Mechem seconded the motion.
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Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Leslie DiCarlo, in favor;
Cynthia Corbett, in favor; Leslie Mechem, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 5-0
Board Member Chris Bennett resumed his position on the Board.
4. 2017.021 HOMEWOOD SUITES SIGNAGE, 3368 Broadway, Architectural Review of a signage within
the Tourist-related Business District.
Agent: Brian Straughter, Turf Hotels; David Weiler, Turf Hotels
Mr. Straughter provided information concerning the proposed signage. This application was recently before the ZBA and
received approvals for signage above the first floor since we are located on Route 9 and the speed limit is 55 MPH.
The proposed signage is illuminated low wattage lettering. The sign is an acrylic white sign. The second sign is proposed
above the door constructed of brass. This is a non illuminated sign and is a typical Homewood Suites sign. Our third sign
is a monument sign on the median of the entranceway. It will also be white in color with a teal color overlay with a bronze
colored duck which is the company mascot. The base of the monument sign will be the same stone as on the building.
Discussion ensued concerning the type of lighting on the proposed signage.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further questions or comments from the Commission. None heard.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
Leslie Mechem made a motion in the matter of the Homewood Suites Signage, 3368 Broadway, that the application be
approved as submitted. Chris Bennett seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Leslie DiCarlo, in favor; Chris Bennett, in
favor; Cynthia Corbett, in favor; Leslie Mechem, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
NOTE: The agenda was heard out of order due to the lack of representation for Agenda Item #5.
6. 2017.018 WALBRIDGE BUILDING, HEATING VENT, 432 Broadway, Historic Review of exterior modifications
within the Transect-6 Urban Core District.
Applicant: Bill Walbridge, Manager
Mr. Walbridge explained the situation concerning the replacement of the two steam boiler units in the building. A new gas
fired system was installed which required venting out toward Caroline Street. The applicant was unaware a DRC notification
and a building permit was required. Upon notification by the Building Inspector we have obtained the necessary permits. As
a result of this we have two vents which need to be reviewed by this Commission since we are in a historic district. We did
explore alternatives prior to the installation of these vents. Unfortunately we could not relocate these vents. These vents
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are currently white in color. They were installed in the winter. If any color change is required we would be happy to comply
with that request in the spring. Our plan is to repaint the sides of the building to match the front.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further questions or comments from the Commission. None heard.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
Cynthia Corbett made a motion in the matter of the Walbridge Building Heating Vent, 432 Broadway that the application be
approved with the following condition – the applicant paint the vents the same color as the body of the building. Chris
Bennett seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Leslie DiCarlo, in favor; Chris Bennett, in
favor; Cynthia Corbett, in favor; Leslie Mechem, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
7. #2017.019 SINCLAIR SARATOGA SIGNAGE & PATIO, 17 Maple Avenue, Historic Review of exterior
modifications within the Transect-6 Urban Core District.
Applicant: Hillary Sinclair; Mark Strauss; Alex Strauss
Agent: Sue Davis, SD Atelier Architecture
Ms. Davis stated this is the site of the old Metro. It is a vacant space and has gone through some different iterations.
The intent is to remove the signs of old and reintroduce this as a beer garden. We are here tonight to discuss the proposed
door on the south façade. We have provided some visuals of the exterior elevation and how it will look with the renovations
as opposed to the existing. The inside courtyard door is what we are referring to at this time. We are looking to create a
larger opening than what is currently there. We would like the door to work compatibly with the existing character of the
building while keeping the functionality we need to have. This will be a commercial grade door with a matte black finish.
We have a sample for the Commission’s review. We are looking to not have the door to be feature but to be used to create
a real courtyard feel. We have also included in the packet images of the space along with the proposed furniture for that
space and the landscape work proposed. We are retaining the windows are they are. The signage facing Maple Avenue is
also a part of this application with images provided to the Commission. A revised drawing was provided noting the right
panel will be operational versus the left as previously submitted.
Discussion ensued concerning the future painting of the building and possible color choices, perhaps via Administrative
approval.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there were any further questions or comments from the Commission.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
Cynthia Corbett made a motion in the matter of the Sinclair Saratoga Signage and Patio, 17 Maple Avenue that the
application be approved with the following conditions – approval is granted as per revised plans dated March 15, 2017,
noting a right hand opening door. Future approval of building color is to be via Administrative Approval. Leslie Mechem
seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
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VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Leslie DiCarlo, in favor; Chris Bennett, in
favor; Cynthia Corbett, in favor; Leslie Mechem, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
8. #2017.017 YADDO EXTERIOR RESTORATION, 312 Union Avenue, Historic Review of exterior modifications within
the Institutional-Education District.
RECUSAL:
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman recused from this application.
Applicant: Shane Cassidy, Christine Holly – Corporation Yaddo
Agent: Steve Reilly, Lacey, Thaler, Reilly, Wilson
Mr. Reilly stated additional images were provided to the Commission following the site visit, noting what was seen and
where. Our application has to do very specifically with changes to historic windows. Our proposal is to revert them to the
original construction. Many of the original windows had leaded glass panels in them and were replaced with single panes of
glass. We would like to revert back to the original condition. While it is not a major change, it is a change from the existing.
One additional downspout has been added to the building as well. It will match existing downspouts currently on the
building. Otherwise the project entails a full restoration of the building envelope in kind.
Steven Rowland, Chairman noted that replacement of building in kind is not subject to our review. The applicant did provide
an opportunity for an onsite visit. We are certainly impressed with the steps you are taking. This is one of the most
significant buildings in the City of Saratoga Springs. The attention to detail you are taking and the historic accuracy of what
you are trying to do is exactly what this Commission looks for. It is very encouraging to see that noting that there is a
tremendous amount of effort and expense that goes with that. We commend you and look forward to seeing this progress.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there were any further questions or comments from the Commission. None heard.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
Steven Rowland, Chairman stated the Saratoga Springs Preservation Foundation did forward a letter to the Commission on
this project. They are equally as pleased as the Commission concerning this renovation.
Steven Rowland, Chairman made a motion in the matter of the Yaddo Exterior Renovations, 312 Union Avenue that the
application be approved as submitted. Chris Bennett seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Leslie DiCarlo, in favor; Chris Bennett, in
favor; Cynthia Corbett, in favor; Leslie Mechem, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
NOTE: Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman resumed her position on the Commission.
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9. #2017.020 SARATOGA LAKE MARINA EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS, 549 Union Avenue, Architectural Review of
exterior modifications within the Water-related Business District.
Applicant: Frank Parillo
Agent: Dennis Rigosu, Architect
Mr. Rigosu stated we are proposing to construct the Saratoga Lake Marina in the place of the Saratoga Boat works on
Saratoga Lake. This is Phase I of the reconstruction we will be doing. We are proposing a restaurant on the other end of
the building. Currently we are looking to create a clubhouse on the one end, updating bathroom facilities. Very little exterior
work is planned for this phase. We are looking to add some windows and doors to this area. We will cut and patch the
vinyl siding as it stands today. Once a tenant is in place on the other end of the building we are looking at a full exterior
renovation.
Steven Rowland, Chairman questioned the elevated deck with railings on the Lake side is all new construction. Information
concerning the materials and cut sheets was requested of the applicant. This can be approved administratively.
Mr. Rigosu stated that is correct the elevated deck and railings are new and noted on the plans the area in question.
The materials will be an Azak type material in a light grey. The materials and product information will be submitted to the
Commission. There will be some new windows and doors in the marina area.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further questions or comments from the Commission. None heard.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
Steven Rowland, Chairman made a motion in the matter of the Saratoga Lake Marina Exterior Modifications, 549
Union Avenue that the application be approved with the following condition – that a list of materials and product information
cut sheets for the patio windows and doors be submitted for Administrative Approval. Chris Bennett seconded the motion.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Leslie DiCarlo, in favor; Chris Bennett, in
favor; Cynthia Corbett, in favor; Leslie Mechem, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
10. #2017.015.1 PITNEY FARM PUD ZONING AMENDMENT, 213-235 West Avenue, consideration of SEQRA Lead
Agency for the proposed PUD zoning amendment within the Urban Residential-2 District.
11. #2017.015 PITNEY FARM PUD ZONING AMENDMENT, 213-235 West Avenue, Advisory Opinion (Architectural
Review) of a proposed PUD zoning amendment within the Urban Residential-2 District.
Agent: Mike Ingersoll, LA Group
Mr. Ingersoll stated this is a community project and provided some information and history of the proposed project and
where they are today. The City Council has sought Lead Agency Status for this project. This is in an Architectural Review
District. There was a lengthy conservation easement that the City Council adopted with the input of the City’s Open Space
Plan. Based on the Master Plan, the group put through a plan which we will view on what could happen on a portion of this
property. It is a unique situation. There is a comprehensive conservation easement that is very restrictive and dictates what
we can do. A visual presentation of the proposed project was provided for the Commission’s review. The applicant is not
asking for re-zoning. We are only speaking of the 11 acre parcel only. The remainder of the 166 acres is largely open
fields. Visual views of the site and the country overlay diagrams were also provided. We are also in the country overlay
zone which we are obliged to accommodate. A visual map of the ASA the Agricultural Stewardship Association was
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provided and put together with the city. It shows all the parcels discussed, and designates where the crops will be located.
It also designates where a farm or silos or farm production can be located. This area was deemed the Agricultural Resource
Center. We cannot have community farms without the proper zoning. Mr. Ingersoll provided a visual of the Conservation
Easement noting this dictates what can be placed here and what is permitted. Mr. Ingersoll reviewed what is allowed in the
area under review, the 11 acres which has been deemed the Agricultural Resource Center. The current zoning which is
residential allows the ability to pursue a PUD. Under current zoning 70 residential homes could be built here, if you go by
the Comprehensive Plan 40 residential units could be built. We are currently restricted to 3. Residential use of the property
has been stripped away to become agricultural. The current farm is in the Rural Residential Zone which does allow all
agricultural activities for farming. We are in the UR-2 zone which we share with the cemetery. Our master plan is imbedded
into the conservation easement. Our hope is that the buildings which exist today be repurposed and reused. If needed to be
rebuilt they will be rebuilt in kind. We will be adding a 30 foot buffer to the area abutting our closest neighbor. All the larger
structures proposed were kept to the rear. There are three zones. Zone A is the existing facilities, and noted the uses for
this zone. There is a dream for an education facility, a learning facility that could someday house a market. Also we would
like to add a B & B which is allowed under current zoning. We would also like to have the ability for farm housing for
employees. The parking we need is for events and seasonal. We will be using permeable type pavement and grass. The
only areas to be paved are the driveways. Zone B is pretty much the same with the exception of perhaps some retail sales
an open air market. Zone C residential dormitory type housing. New water lines will be installed for both service and fire
protection. A visual presentation of the proposed entrances was reviewed for the Commission. Views of the proposed
community garden locations and future farm buildings were also provided. The community garden can house over 200
plots. There will be raised beds for handicap accessibility. Monies were received for a children’s greenhouse which could
be in the ground this spring. All totaled we will be impacting
30 acres of the total site 160 acres.
Steven Rowland, Chairman stated this looks very promising and an exciting project. This is made for a PUD and certainly a
good idea to go that route. It is a good direction to head. I am in favor of this project. It is an ideal location for a PUD.
I look forward to seeing this project developed.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there were any further questions or comments from the Commission. None heard.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
Steven Rowland, Chairman made a motion that the DRC defer Lead Agency Status to the City Council. Cynthia Corbett
seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Leslie DiCarlo, in favor; Chris Bennett, in
favor; Cynthia Corbett, in favor; Leslie Mechem, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there were any further questions or comments from the Commission concerning the
PUD Zoning Amendment to the City Council. None heard.
Steven Rowland, Chairman made a motion in the matter of the Pitney Farm PUD Zoning Amendment, 213-315 West
Avenue involving a request from the City Council for an Advisory Opinion the Design Review Commission issues a favorable
advisory opinion and feels it is the most appropriate method in which to move this project forward. Cynthia Corbett
seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
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VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Leslie DiCarlo, in favor; Chris Bennett, in
favor; Cynthia Corbett, in favor; Leslie Mechem, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
12. ICEHOUSE EXTERIOR WALL, 70 Putnam Street, Historic Review of exterior modification within the
Transect-6 Urban Core District.
Applicant: Sean Lynch, Owner
Mr. Lynch stated he is before the Commission this evening concerning the structural repair of the north wall following the fire
at 68 Putnam Street. We are seeking approval for the exterior finish. Essentially it a stucco type product and looks like
stucco. It is made for exteriors. It will match the south facing wall finish in a similar color. There are new owners next door
who we believe are planning on constructing a new building. You will not see this after the construction is completed. This
will clean up the building until the next door project goes through.
Bradley Birge, Administrator Planning and Economic Development stated a five year time frame was issued to Sperry’s
when they came before this Commission requesting essentially the same time repair on their exterior wall.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further questions or comments from the Commission. None heard.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
Steven Rowland, Chairman made a motion in the matter of the Icehouse Exterior Wall, 70 Putnam Street that the application
be approved with the following condition – if the façade is not covered by a future structure within the next five years, the
applicant will return for a more permanent solution. Leslie DiCarlo seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Leslie DiCarlo, in favor; Chris Bennett, in
favor; Cynthia Corbett, in favor; Leslie Mechem, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
Discussion ensued among the Commission concerning the following agenda item. No representation for this agenda item
this evening. It was the consensus of the Commission to table the application.
5. 2017.016 BIGGS CONDO PATIO SHADES, 268 Broadway, #503, Historic Review of exterior modifications
Within the Transect-6 Urban Core District. 130 Circular Street, Historic Review of window
Replacements within the Urban Residential-3 District.
APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES:
Leslie Mechem made a motion to approve the minutes of the February 1, 2017; and February 15, 2017 DRC meeting as
submitted. Leslie DiCarlo seconded the motion.
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VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Leslie DiCarlo, in favor; Cynthia Corbett, in
favor; Chris Bennett, in favor; Leslie Mechem, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
The Commission reviewed 246 West Avenue project submission concerning zoning problem concerning the height. Steven
Rowland, Chairman provided a visual view of the project submitted for administrative review. Steven Rowland, Chairman
preferred to Review information with the Commission. Discussion ensued among the Commission regarding the options
provided. It was the consensus of the Commission to approve Option#1.
UPCOMING WORKSHOPS/MEETINGS:
Design Review Caravan, Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 4:00 P.M.
Design Review Meeting, Wednesday, April 5, 2017 at 7:00 P.M.
MOTION TO ADJOURN:
There being no further business to discuss Steven Rowland, Chairman adjourned the meeting at 8:40 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Diane M. Buzanowski
Recording Secretary
APPROVED 6/21/17
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