Open Space Advisory Committee (OSAC)
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · October 23, 2018
Minutes
SARATOGA SPRINGS OPEN SPACE COMMITTEE
DRAFT MEETING MINUTES
MEETING OF OCTOBER 23, 2018
5:00 P.M.
RECREATION CENTER, 15 VANDERBILT AVENUE, SARATOGA
SPRINGS
PRESENT:
Chair Tom Denny, Suzanne Kwasniewski, Maureen Roberts, David Miller, Tim Holmes, Beth
Wurtmann (late).
ABSENT:
Erica Gifford
CITY STAFF:
Tina Carton, Parks, Open Lands, Historic Preservation/Sustainability Coordinator
OTHERS PRESENT:
Meredith Ellis, LaBella Associates; University of Albany Master in Urban and Regional
Planning (MRP) degree students Ian Barr, Brianna Francis, Jared Sayles, and Karthik Soundara
Rajan; Professor Marcia Kees; and John McMahon, resident of Saratoga Springs.
RECORDING OF PROCEEDING:
The minutes are not a verbatim record of the proceedings.
CALL TO ORDER:
Chair Tom Denny called the meeting to order at 5:03 p.m.
PUBLIC COMMENT-15 MINUTES
No opening public comment.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The committee voted to approve the 9/26/2018 meeting minutes, with the date amended
(Holmes, Denny). Unanimous vote.
NATURAL RESOURCE INVENTORY (NRI) DISCUSSION
The Master of Regional Planning Program at the University at Albany seminar class. Students
presented the findings of Phase One of the fall 2018 MRP Studio class. The main deliverable
was the release of the Stakeholder Interview Report for the Natural Resource Inventory for the
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SARATOGA SPRINGS OPEN SPACE COMMITTEE
DRAFT MEETING MINUTES
MEETING OF OCTOBER 23, 2018
5:00 P.M.
RECREATION CENTER, 15 VANDERBILT AVENUE, SARATOGA
SPRINGS
City of Saratoga Springs report. The report consisted of nineteen stakeholder interviews
conducted by Studio members. The stakeholder interviews were one aspect of the data gathered
for use by the City and the Open Space Advisory Committee to compile a Natural Resource
Inventory (NRI) for the City of Saratoga Springs.
The students discussed the major themes of the report:
Saratoga Springs “City in the Country” character
Sustainable Water Practices
Native Species Preservation
Neighborhood Parks
Connectivity
Use of Data
Students will also be researching and collecting data on the conservation easements within the
city. Ian Barr will focus on this topic and will be also reading the deeds to determine if the
easement lands are open to the general public and if any restrictions apply to usage. Jared Sayles
will be focusing on the mineral springs of Saratoga Springs. His research will focus on chemical
composition of the springs, available parking resources, date established, and locating capped
springs. Brianna Francis will be researching best practices to acquiring and developing pocket
parks in Saratoga Springs.
Karthik Soundara will be focusing on scenic resources. The committee discussed roles in the
collecting of data and potential research that could assist in creating a methodology to identify
and inventory natural, cultural, and historical resources within Saratoga Springs. The committee
also discussed how to identify and document the resources. The committee agreed that the scenic
resources should be visible and prominent from public land or right-of-ways and which residents
perceived as intrinsic to the positive and unique character of the city. The committee also
suggested that it was best to create a methodology and process to review these resources that was
less subjective. Karthik will be research methods other municipalities have used for evaluation.
Meredith Ellis of LaBella Associates distributed copies of the working map pack, as emailed to
the OSAC today by Barbara Johnston.
Chair Tom Denny observed that more information would needed for the scenic input. He also
observed that ours is possibly a longer process than the NRI undertaking and that we shall
endeavor to balance first subjective viewpoints with best practices criteria.
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SARATOGA SPRINGS OPEN SPACE COMMITTEE
DRAFT MEETING MINUTES
MEETING OF OCTOBER 23, 2018
5:00 P.M.
RECREATION CENTER, 15 VANDERBILT AVENUE, SARATOGA
SPRINGS
At 6:25pm the LaBella / SUNY teams left the meeting.
Chair Tom Denny addressed remaining agenda items with brief discussion of:
4 d.ii “Dark sky” criteria as a component of rural character and the possibility of volunteer
measurement activities. Member of the public John McMahon, resident of Saratoga Springs,
showed interest and displayed a Bortle map of light densities in the Saratoga region.
4 d.iii Tree canopy and its importance in planning.
Chair Denny asked the committee members present if a presentation to the Mayor and Council
would be timely. There was general assent.
OTHER BUSINESS
No other business was discussed.
PUBLIC COMMENT
No closing public comment.
ADJOURN
There being no further business, a motion to adjourn the meeting at 6:31 p.m. was unanimously
approved (Wurtmann, Holmes).
NEXT MEETING: THE NEXT MEETING OF THE OSAC WILL BE ON NOVEMBER 28, 2018 5PM, LOCATION AT THE
RECREATION CENTER ON 15 VANDERBILT AVENUE.
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Agenda
SARATOGA SPRINGS OPEN SPACE COMMITTEE
AGENDA
OCTOBER 23, 2018
5:00 P.M.
RECREATION CENTER, 15 VANDERBILT AVE
1. WELCOME AND ATTENDANCE
2. PUBLIC COMMENT- 10 MINUTES
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – 9/26/2018
4. NATURAL RESOURCE INVENTORY (NRI)
a. SUNY Albany Studio Class presentation & discussion
i. Stakeholder interviews – brief summary of trends & key emerging perspectives
ii. Scenic Viewshed Research and Data Collection Practices
iii. Updates on other projects / potential projects
iv. Conservation easements
b. Committee Discussion: Scenic resources affecting “rural character” of the “greenbelt” in the “City in the
Country” – discussion of OSAC’s first pass at updating this info
c. Discussion with LaBella on data / data gaps
d. Discussion: Additional categories requiring local input
i. Scenic resources – “rural character” as well as urban character
ii. Dark sky criteria as a component of “rural character”
iii. Tree canopy – best methods to gather and understand tree canopy
5. PUBLIC COMMENT- 10 MINUTES
6. ADJOURN
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