Open Space Advisory Committee (OSAC)
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · November 28, 2018
Minutes
OSAC meeting of November 28, 2018 notes to possible minutes T Holmes
OSAC meeting of November 28, 2018 notes
(Per agenda, q.v.)
PRESENT:
Chair Tom Denny, Maureen Roberts, David Miller, Tim Holmes.
City staff: Tina Carton.
Absent: Erica Gifford, Suzanne Kwasniewski, Beth Wurtmann.
Public: Wendy Mahaney.
RECORDING OF PROCEEDING:
The minutes are not a verbatim record of the proceedings.
CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order at 5 pm at the Recreation Center.
PUBLIC COMMENT
There was no opening public comment.
NRI Update.
Tom reported on the SUNY / LaBella presentations. LaBella has submitted more materials to OSAC
(distributed). In discussion it was considered a good idea to include local experts in Open Space plan
development. It was agreed to hold a community-wide meeting to provide an opportunity for all. Towards
further map development with LaBella, definitions of some of the layers were discussed.
2019 Budget request. It was reported that the Council has included $45,000 in the draft Budget. Tina
was roundly thanked for her communication with the Mayor and Council. Tom Denny reported he had
sent his Powerpoint presentation to the Council members and received acknowledgment. One of two City
Council meetings closely following this OSAC meeting is on the Budget. Tina mentioned possible
desirability of expanding the LaBella contract to include output features that would importantly enhance
the work product’s legibility for the public.
Possible land acquisition. Tina outlined a key parcel connecting to the Bog Meadow Trail which seemed
of particular value for public access. Also mentioned were connections to the Zim Smith Trail, Pitney
Farm and Greenbelt Trail. To be discussed further.
Conservation easement consult. Chair Tom Denny reported dialogue with Brad Birge, the City’s
Administrator of Planning & Economic Development. Mr. Birge thought it might be useful to get an
OSAC advisory opinion regarding priority assets for conservation as the Planning Board considers
conservation easements. A pending development on Kaydeross Avenue East is a case in point. Tom
Denny said he would explore the usefulness of OSAC working with Planning in this case.
Other. The topic of water levels in coming years was discussed. Tina reported that major national and
state agencies are projecting weather in the Northeastern United States to include increased precipitation.
It was mentioned that alerting developers and builders might result in improved siting of builds. A
committee member requested that OSAC include adaptability in its mapping materials so that elevation
adjustments can be made by future planners.
Pocket parks. Examples of possible pocket parks were discussed, and criteria as presented in the SUNY
/LaBella materials in the context of prior City policy in nonacceptance of developer’s donations of lands
that would call for City upkeep. It was agreed important to put in place appropriate process for
considering pocket park proposals, this to include long term impacts. The idea was suggested (as in the
SUNY LaBella documents) of a committee or board with its own prerogatives and focus.
There were no closing comments from the public.
The meeting was adjourned at 6:31pm. (Maureen Roberts, David Miller)
Respectfully,
Tim Holmes
WELCOME AND ATTENDANCE
THE MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER
PUBLIC COMMENT- 5 MINUTES
NRI – UPDATE
U ALBANY
LABELLA – DISCUSSION OF LATEST BATCH OF MATERIALS
ROLE OF LOCAL EXPERTS (SHARE SELECT MATERIALS W/ PRES FOUNDATION; SOIL & WATER; PLAN;
ETC)
SCENIC RESOURCES – COMMITTEE INPUT TO MATERIALS SENT PREVIOUSLY – U ALBANY CRITERIA
SHALL WE SCHEDULE A PUBLIC WORKSHOP IN JANUARY?
POCKET PARKS – DISCUSSION (SEE ATTACHED LIST OF PROPERTIES & CRITERIA LISTED BELOW)
2019 BUDGET REQUEST FOR OPEN SPACE PLAN ($45,000) - UPDATE
PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL (NOV 5)
COMMUNICATIONS FROM FINANCE
POSSIBLE ACQUISITIONS? - TINA
INVENTORY OF CURRENT & POSSIBLE POCKET PARKS
POSSIBLE CRITERIA?
POCKET PARKS
POSSIBLE CRITERIA? – REFERENCE BRIANNA’S WORK (COBB COUNTY, GA)
BENEFIT TO PUBLIC
USE(S) OF PARK
NEIGHBORHOOD INTEREST
AVAILABILITY OF LAND
NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT
NEED
MAINTENANCE RESOURCES
CONSERVATION SUBDIVISION CONSULT (ON KAYDEROSS AVE)
EXPLAIN REQUIREMENTS AND CALCULATIONS FOR CONSERVATION SUBDIVISION?
PUBLIC COMMENT- 10 MINUTES
ADJOURN
Agenda
SARATOGA SPRINGS OPEN SPACE COMMITTEE
AGENDA
NOVEMBER 28, 2018
5:00 P.M.
RECREATION CENTER, 15 VANDERBILT AVE
1. WELCOME AND ATTENDANCE
2. PUBLIC COMMENT- 5 MINUTES
3. NRI – UPDATE
a. U ALBANY
b. LABELLA – DISCUSSION OF LATEST BATCH OF MATERIALS
c. ROLE OF LOCAL EXPERTS (SHARE SELECT MATERIALS W/ PRES FOUNDATION; SOIL & WATER; PLAN; ETC)
d. SCENIC RESOURCES – COMMITTEE INPUT TO MATERIALS SENT PREVIOUSLY – U ALBANY CRITERIA
i. SHALL WE SCHEDULE A PUBLIC WORKSHOP IN JANUARY?
e. POCKET PARKS – DISCUSSION (SEE ATTACHED LIST OF PROPERTIES & CRITERIA LISTED BELOW)
4. 2019 BUDGET REQUEST FOR OPEN SPACE PLAN ($45,000) - UPDATE
a. PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL (NOV 5)
b. COMMUNICATIONS FROM FINANCE
5. POSSIBLE ACQUISITIONS? - TINA
a. INVENTORY OF CURRENT & POSSIBLE POCKET PARKS
b. POSSIBLE CRITERIA?
6. POCKET PARKS
a. POSSIBLE CRITERIA? – REFERENCE BRIANNA’S WORK (COBB COUNTY, GA)
b. BENEFIT TO PUBLIC
c. USE(S) OF PARK
d. NEIGHBORHOOD INTEREST
e. AVAILABILITY OF LAND
f. NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT
g. NEED
h. MAINTENANCE RESOURCES
7. CONSERVATION SUBDIVISION CONSULT (ON KAYDEROSS AVE)
a. EXPLAIN REQUIREMENTS AND CALCULATIONS FOR CONSERVATION SUBDIVISION?
8. PUBLIC COMMENT- 10 MINUTES
9. ADJOURN
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