Open Space Advisory Committee (OSAC)
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · October 23, 2019
Minutes
SARATOGA SPRINGS OPEN SPACE COMMITTEE
MEETING MINUTES
OCTOBER 23, 2019
5:00 P.M.
SARATOGA SPRINGS CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
PRESENT:
Tom Denny (Chair), Tim Holmes, Steve Samuell, John M. McMahon, and Maureen Roberts
ABSENT:
Dave Miller and Zuzia Kwasniewski.
CITY STAFF:
Tina Carton – Admin of Parks, Open Lands, Historic Preservation/Sustainability
OTHERS PRESENT:
Amy Durland
RECORDING OF PROCEEDING:
The minutes are not a verbatim record of the proceedings.
CALL TO ORDER:
Tom Denny called the meeting to order at 5:04 p.m.
PUBLIC COMMENT-15 MINUTES
No Public Comment
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Tom Denny asked that the minutes from the 9/25/19 meeting be revised to reflect that the OSAC
had gone into executive session. There being no other revisions or changes proposed, the
minutes were accepted as revised.
NATURAL RESOURCE INVENTORY (NRI) UPDATE AND DISCUSSION
The committee first discussed a new map, #4C, the Mean Tree Cover by Census Block Group,
which was received this week. The version the committee had previously seen had been based on
six census tracts, but this new version breaks the data down for each Census Block Group, which
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is more refined and useful than a previous tree canopy map we looked at. A future addition will
be the labelling of major streets.
The committee discussed a new map submitted by LaBella entitled the Public and Community
Service Parcels map. Most committee members felt it was useful, although the question was
raised that we need to decide what this map is supposed to communicate. Should the utilities be
eliminated from the map? Should the coloration of the parcels be changed? Should the railroad
north of Greenfield be added and highlighted, since it is owned by a public entity, namely the
Town of Corinth.
There will be a map of the Saratoga Springs Lands Preserved from the 2002 Bond Act to the
present, showing preserved lands and city acquisitions. Conservation easements will not be on it.
The online map will have labels added that can be turned on and off.
A detailed Climate Change narrative that LaBella sent was discussed. It included climate change
in New York State, as well as observed changes in Saratoga Springs. It drew heavily from the
NYSERDA Climaid reports of 2011 and 2014. The narrative had a revealing section on climate
change and its impacts on water resources. OSAC member should send any comments to Tina
Carton.
The next discussion was on Section 9B, Dark Skies. Mr. John McMahon has put together a 19-
page document summarizing dark skies. We discussed the averted vision observatory light
pollution map. A map or two will be included in the NRI, showing categories of urban dark sky
zones.
ACQUISITION CRITERIA
The committee continued discussing broad criteria for future land acquisitions by the city,
reviewing several existing documents that offered different frameworks to help in this process:.
Criteria were as follows:
1. OSAC made a table from two years ago, with input from all committee members,
2. document from the city of New Paltz shows four different perspectives on how to
prioritize lands,
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3. Rick Barnes document from the OSAC in 2008, or
4. Using the 2002 Open Space Plan map criteria.
This exercise has a larger purpose, to begin consideration of the framework and priorities that
will emerge as the OSAC works on the revision to the Open Space Plan.
As the New Paltz system has different evaluation categories and points given to come up with a
final score, the committee discussed the difficulty of deciding how to assign points to different
types of lands.
The group discussed taking the categories listed in the Open Space Plan from 2002, “fleshing
them out”, and then combining this information with the current Comprehensive Plan to come up
with acquisition criteria that best suits Saratoga Springs in 2019.
Tina Carton gave an update on Pitney Farm, and a meeting with the Agricultural Stewardship
Association (ASA). She discussed the recreational trails around the farm. This perimeter trail
will be eight feet in width and have a stone dust surface. The trail will be ADA compliant and
will be useful for walking, running, snowshoeing, and cross-country skiing. There will also be
fishing areas at the farm for the public to enjoy. Pitney Farm is trying to acquire a parcel near the
tracks that is currently owned by the railroad. This would eventually be a part of the Greenbelt
Trail.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Ms. Amy Durland encouraged all the members to read the new Recreation Master Plan.
Although there is some overlap between Rec and Open Space, she stated our focus should be
different from strictly recreational interests.
She discussed the recent UN report on climate change, and even more importantly, biodiversity
loss. This loss is just as crucial as climate change and has huge potential effects on humanity.
Should we put water resources and biodiversity together in one category? Currently, wetlands
need federal or state designation to be protected. She noted that exemptions for developers, etc.
are very easy to come by. The importance of these wetlands was highlighted by Ms. Durland.
ADJOURN
There being no further business, Tom Denny adjourned the meeting at 6:35 p.m. Tom Denny
seconded.
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NEXT MEETING:
Because of Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays, the next two meetings will be on November
20, 2019 and December 18, 2019. Both will be at 5 pm at Vanderbilt Recreation Center/City
Council Chambers.
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Agenda
SARATOGA SPRINGS OPEN SPACE COMMITTEE
AGENDA
OCTOBER 23, 2019
5:00 P.M.
RECREATION CENTER, 15 VANDERBILT AVE
1. WELCOME AND ATTENDANCE
2. PUBLIC COMMENT
3. ADMINISTRATIVE BUSINESS
a. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
i. SEPTEMBER 25, 2019
4. NRI UPDATE AND DISCUSSION
a. LABELLA MATERIALS DISCUSSION
i. PUBLIC & PROTECTED LANDS – NARRATIVE & MAP
ii. CLIMATE CHANGE
iii. USGS PAD – READ ME
b. CITY-DEVELOPED SECTIONS – UPDATES & DISCUSSION
i. 4 – WATER RESOURCES – REVISED VERSION
ii. 9B – DARK SKIES
iii. 11A – PROTECTED CONSERVATION LANDS (MAP 24)
c. SKIDMORE GIS MAPPING PROJECTS – UPDATE – TREE CANOPY BY CENSUS BLOC GROUPS
5. UPDATE - ACQUISITION CRITERIA – NEXT STEPS
6. EXECUTIVE SESSION: DISCUSSION WHERE THE PROPOSED ACQUISITION, SALE OR LEASE OF REAL PROPERTY WOULD
SUBSTANTIALLY AFFECT THE VALUE THEREOF
7. PUBLIC COMMENT
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