Planning Board
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · December 8, 2010
Minutes
PLANNING BOARD
MINUTES
WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 8, 2010 7:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL ROOM
PRESENT: Clifford Van Wagner; Chair, Jamin Totino; Vice Chair, Amy Durland,
Michael Perkins, Philip Klein, Dan Gaba, Suzanne Bernardi-Cleary
STAFF : Kate Maynard, Principal Planner
Bradley Birge, Administrator, Planning and Economic Development
CALL TO ORDER:
Clifford Van Wagner called the meeting to order at 7:05 P.M.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF RECORDING OF PROCEEDING:
Clifford Van Wagner said the proceedings of this meeting are being taped for the benefit of the
secretary. Because the minutes are not a verbatim record of the proceedings, the minutes are
not a word-for-word transcript of the recording.
REPORT ON ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIONS BY THE CHAIR:
10.048 RAMVOR LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT Provides for lot line adjustment among 3 lots
currently held in common ownership on Doten Avenue. All 3 lots meet UR-2 regulations.
ACTION: Approved by Chair.
10.050-21 ALETTA STREET PARTNERSHIP Lot line adjustment. Meets all underlying
regulations of the WD – Warehouse District. Context: mNYS (Empire State College) is
proposed purchaser or portion of property. Will continue storage/maintenance facility as
currently utilized.
ACTION: Approved by Chair.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF ADJOURNED PROJECTS:
1. 10.057 ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT: FEE LANGUAGE, Advisory opinion to
the City Council to amend language relating to fees in the Zoning Ordinance.
This application was not presented to the City Council so therefore it will not
be presented this evening.
ADJOURNED AT APPLICANT'S REQUEST – WAITING FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
10.013 WHITE FARMS ROAD BED AND BREAKFAST, 66 White Farms Road, public hearing
for special use permit for six room corridor bed and breakfast in a Rural Residential-1 District.
10.028 CELLCO-VERIZON CELL TOWER, 81 Nelson Avenue, SEQRA evaluation of potential
environmental impact for a new 90’ monopine telecommunications tower and associated
equipment in an Urban Residential-2 District.
10.027 307 GRAND AVENUE MULTI-FAMILY, 307 Grand Avenue, public hearing on special
use permit for a multi-family housing in the Transect-4 District.
10.031 307 GRAND AVENUE MULTI-FAMILY, 307 Grand Avenue, review of site plan for multi-
family housing in the Transect-4 District.
UPCOMING PLANNING BOARD MEETING/AGENDA WORKSHOPS:
Next Planning Board Caravan, Scheduled for Monday, December 20, 2010 at 4:00 P.M.
Next Planning Board Workshop, Scheduled for Monday, December 20, 2010 at 5:00 P.M.
Next Planning Board Meeting, Scheduled for Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 7:00 P.M.
PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR:
Opportunity for citizens in the audience to address planning issues not on tonight’s agenda.
None heard.
APPLICATIONS UNDER CONSIDERATION:
1. #10.052 CDJT WORKFORCE HOUSING, Citywide, City Council request for an
Advisory Opinion for review of Zoning Amendment Proposal request for workforce
housing.
Applicant: Dave Jelenik and Charles Toohey
Presenting: Tonya Yasenchak, Engineering America
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated the board will be hearing this for the first time. We will be
looking at two particular items:
1. If this is not contrary to the purpose and intent of the zoning code
2. If this is in accordance with the comprehensive plan.
No action will be taken this evening.
Tonya Yasenchak, stated workforce housing is something that has been outlined in the
Saratoga Comprehensive plan approximately ten years ago and it hasn’t come to fruition, the
way the comprehensive plan intended it to be. The comprehensive plan states regarding
housing…encourage a range of residential opportunities to promote diversity, encourage
development of higher density residential alternatives within the urban corp and actively
promote affordable housing of all types, single family, multiple family, condos, as well as
apartments. It also calls for the promotion of education awareness of affordable housing and to
de-stigmatize what a lot of people believe affordable housing actually is. The comp plan also
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calls for the development of an affordable approach via whole site approach. Encourage new
housing to reflect historical context and design characteristics consistent with traditional
Saratoga neighborhoods. It calls to support collaborative efforts to develop additional affordable
housing. Something the City can work along with developers along with housing authorities to
develop this workforce housing.
Also, the comprehensive plan lists out a type of implementation plan of how this housing can be
developed and it talks about the review of zoning, land use, building codes and development
policies to actively encourage affordable housing construction development. Higher density
rezoning, permitting conversion and permanent residential use of accessory buildings, such as
garages and carriage houses. Workforce housing is needed in Saratoga. We are proposing a
creation of a floating zoning overlay to fulfill the city's comprehensive plan. Also a density
bonus of an increase of 60% from the base zoning district of whichever district they are in.
Reduction in area requirements, including lot widths, setbacks, coverage, and permeability.
Also, this type of initiative will allow equity in return for developers. This overlay will be
voluntary. Suggestions are that the workforce housing be within and directly adjacent to the
city's inner district and only in a residential district from UR-1 to UR-4. We are proposing that
75% of homes built with any proposed project would be workforce housing.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated that the Board has a lot of reading to do. The Board will
revisit the Comprehensive Plan and the Zoning Ordinance. The applicant should be in contact
with staff to be placed on a subsequent agenda.
#07.089.2 PAVILION GRAND, 30 Lake Avenue, extension of site plan approval for
mixed use building in the transect-6 district.
DISCLOSURE:
Dan Gaba stated one of the owners of the plot is also the owner of the company I work for so I
will recuse.
BACKGROUND:
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated this is a project was granted site plan approval on
January 23, 2008. Site plan extension was granted July 8, 2009, extended until January 28,
2011. Request is for a second, final 18 month request that would expire on July 28, 2012. The
project which was originally approved was for a 9 condominium project and 16,500 square feet
of retail. The applicant is seeking an extension and also proposing a change on the interior to
47 residential units, with a first floor now to include a lobby, a fitness center, a business center,
as well as 6,000 square feet of retail space. In addition, we are being requested to consider
parking lifts for a portion or all exterior on site parking. Concierge to be on-site 24 hours a day
for valet parking. This is considerably more than a simple extension.
Applicant: Prime Management, LLC – Dean Devito
The applicant stated the outside of the building will remain exactly as it appears. The inside of
the building is where the proposed changes will occur. They are proposing some parking lifts,
which is under consideration. We now have 48 units after some revisions to the inside. One of
the questions that came up was is there a difference in the traffic demand based on the old
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16, 500 square foot and 9 condominiums and retail. Creighton Manning did a traffic study and
the results show that the traffic demand is less than what the traffic demand would be with the
office together with the retail.
Bonnie Cimmino, Creighton Manning Engineering, stated it is very close to the same when you
change those out. It is a little bit lower in the morning peak hours and about the same in the
afternoon peak because you are exchanging out different land uses. You are increasing
residential and removing the office space.
Philip Klein suggests that we delay any decision until the next meeting on December 22, 2010
to review information we have just received.
Jamin Totino concurs with Philip Klein.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, stated is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak
regarding the Pavilion Grand application.
None heard.
We will keep this application open.
2. #10.047 ELLSWORTH ICE CREAM BUILDING, 120 Division Street, site plan review of
mixed use building in the Division Street Planned Unit Development District.
Applicant: Hotel Square Development, LLC
Agent: Mike Ingersoll, LA Group; Mike Phinney of Phinney Design
SEQRA:
Type I unlisted action. No involved agencies identified with this action.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, stated this project was introduced at the November 11, 2010
meeting. At that time the Board requested further information including traffic and trip
generation, building heights and elevations. Mark Benaquista, traffic engineer has reviewed the
trip generation numbers and is satisfied and no traffic study is required. One of the suggestions
was to better align the intersections of Walworth and Division and the applicant has agreed to
that. Tonight we are here for an overview of any other changes.
Mike Ingersoll, LA Group stated over the last month meetings have been held with staff. A
review presentation of the project was presented to the Board with changes implemented per
request of the Board and city staff.
Mike Phinney, Phinney Design Group, stated they have received some constructive feedback
from the Planning Board. One of the biggest changes is the elevation. Height analysis done
from all the neighboring properties.
Amy Durland stated the applicant mentioned passive cooling and solar. Will this be active
solar? Are you still talking about LEED?
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Mike Phinney stated it is possible. We have met with NYSERDA representatives about
looking at the whole project and what possible incentives we could do with some of the
technology. It will come down to a cost benefit analysis, and ultimately the buyer. We are all
interested in this for a LEED neighborhood and we are researching the guidelines. The location
is prime for this.
Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman stated the project is very exciting. The applicant is offering to do a
number off site improvements and creating a public benefit with the walkway, I think it is more
than a reasonable trade-off to grant the waiver for the 49 spaces.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, stated this is the best usage of shared parking that I have seen
because we have very little commercial space on Walworth. The idea of sharing those 49 spots
when you have 27 off site it is really insignificant to request that waiver in view of the ability to
have share parking as well as the bonus of having all those spots that are off site. I agree with
Jamin I would rather see that than have it get congested in the back.
Amy Durland questioned the availability of bicycle access on the roadway. Also perhaps the
applicant could consult with the Healthy Transportation Network or some entity that could make
suggestions about possible bicycle access/improvements.
Mike Ingersoll stated they did research the proposed safe routes to school and that was their
focus more pedestrian oriented.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, asked if there were any further comments or suggestions from
the Board.
SEQRA:
Amy Durland stated she is not comfortable with the fact that this is based on a PUD which I
consider to be inconsistent with this project. In her interpretation of the PUD it emphasizes
warehousing she feels the Board is left in an awkward position of having to guess what zone it
would have been. The better approach would have been to request a rezoning. As a result she
feels this conflicts with officially adopted plans or goals so she is not going to support the
SEQRA.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, questioned if there has been a determination from the City
Attorney?
Kate Maynard, Principal Planner stated that the City Attorney did provide legal basis for this
project, that it is not inconsistent with the Division Street Planned Unit Development and it is
arriving before the Board for site plan review with this determination.
Jamin Totino made a motion based upon the information provided by the applicant in Part I of
the SEQRA Full Environmental Assessment Form, and analysis of the information provided and
presented in Part II of the SEQRA Full Environmental Assessment Form, I find the project will
not result in any large or important impact and is therefore one that will not have a significant
adverse impact on the environment. Based on this I move to issue a SEQRA negative
declaration for this action. Seconded by Dan Gaba.
VOTE: J. Totino, in favor; Michael Perkins, in favor; P. Klein, in favor; D. Gaba, in favor;
S. Bernardi-Cleary, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, in favor
OPPOSED: A. Durland
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MOTION PASSES: 6-1
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated the applicants have done a nice job putting this
application together. They have offered to do a lot of off work improvements which will benefit
not only this project but the City with the infrastructure improvements as well benefiting many of
the neighbors. It will certainly make Division Street a much safer neighborhood for pedestrians
and the walkway to Division Street School.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there was anyone in the audience wishing to comment
on this application?
None heard.
Jamin Totino made a motion to approve the site plan with all the amendments to the site plan
from the last meeting to those brought forward today, along with a waiver of the 49 parking
spaces. Seconded by Suzanne Bernardi Cleary.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked is there is any further discussion?
Amy Durland stated she does think this is a very good project and she will vote in favor of it.
She still has concerns about Cherry Street and I feel it is unfortunate about all those front facing
garages. It is a little inconsistent to say that you are creating a public walkway
which goes out to Cherry Street in the hopes that it will be redeveloped someday and there will
be additional features of Cherry Street that will make it a place that people will want to walk to
and that seems inconsistent with some of the decisions made about this street? I agree with my
fellow Board members that this is a site which cries out for redevelopment and the applicants
have implemented many good features in it.
VOTE: J. Totino, in favor; A. Durland, in favor; M. Perkins, in favor; P. Klein, in favor;
D. Gaba, in favor; S. Bernardi-Cleary, in favor; C. Van Wagner, in favor
S. Bernardi-Cleary, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
9:10 PM BOARD RECESSED
9:15 PM BOARD RECONVENED
3. #10.042 THE MEWS, 60 Weibel Avenue, site plan discussion of mixed use
building in the Transect-4 District.
Applicant: Saratoga Springs, LLC
Agent: LA Group, Dave Carr
SEQRA: Type I action – "activities other than construction of residential facilities involving
more than 10 acres of physical alteration." DRC as other involved agency. SEQRA negative
declaration for project was issued September 9, 2009. Any substantial changes to the project
that would be considered to substantially alter plans would require additional SEQRA action.
The Planning Board issued a special use permit for the project on September 9, 2009.
Project as proposed currently appears to be in compliance with provisions of approval.
Dave Carr reintroduced the project to the Board members and gave a visual presentation
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and overview of the project.
Dave Carr stated this is a Transect - 4 zone. An urban neighborhood is intended for
development of new residential areas incorporating a mix of unit types within a block grid.
Residential lots will be served by alleys to preserve the pedestrian character of the streets.
There will be small scale retail, office, and restaurant use with upper floor residential use.
Provide for bicycle and pedestrian linkages within the project site and along the perimeter of the
site along Weibel Avenue and future roadways to the south by sidewalks, bike lanes and/or
separate shared use paths. Sidewalk connections throughout the site. Possibility of future bike
path connections. Weibel Avenue has been designated by Saratoga Health Transportation
Networks as a bike lane designation.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, stated this public hearing will be left open.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, stated no action will be taken tonight. Any questions or
comments from the Board?
Anyone in the audience wishing to comment on this application?
None heard.
The applicant stated they will be before the DRC next week and staff did respond with some
comments and we will respond to those as well as those of Paul Male, City Engineer.
Kate Maynard, Principal Planner indicated to the Board that CDTA through a communication
received by staff today concerning the project on Weibel Avenue has been included in the
Board members packets.
4. #10.044 SKIDMORE COLLEGE SCRIBNER VILLAGE REPLACEMENT,
815 N. Broadway, site plan review of residential dormitories in the Institutional-
Educational District.
Applicant: Skidmore College
Agent: LA Group, Mike Ingersoll, Dave Pearson
Skidmore College: Mike West
DISCLOSURE:
Jamin Totino, Vice Chair did disclose that he currently has a working relationship with Skidmore
College and serve as consultant to the disability services office which is located in the student
academic services office at Skidmore College. He does not see that this presents any conflict
or reason to recuse.
SEQRA:
NYSDOH and DASNY have deferred lead agency status to the Planning Board. DASNY has
requested that under their coordinated review requirements that OPRHP be included as an
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involved agency. However, they are not legally an involved agency through the action, this is at
the discretion of the Board.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated this project was seen by this Board at our October 27,
2010 meeting. The Planning Board did initiate Lead Agency Status at this time. There were a
few issues which needed clarification and they are here tonight for that purpose.
Mike Ingersoll, LA Group, stated a complete overview of the project was presented at the
October 27, 2010, meeting of the Planning Board. The project is intended to span three to four
years. There are 288 beds existing at the present time in 15 buildings. At the end of the project
we will have 12 buildings with 178 more beds, totaling 466.
Amy Durland stated reviewing the SEQRA form it seems the applicant is removing almost two
acres of forested area, but the amount of paved surface decreased.
Mike Ingersoll stated the two building which will be demolished are considered impervious, as
well as the parking lot which will be removed at the conclusion of the project.
Amy Durland also questioned if Skidmore had considered LEED for these buildings?
Mike West, Skidmore College stated the buildings will be designed to LEED silver
specifications. We will not be seeking certification due to the cost of the administrative burden
associated with this application. However, they are geo-thermal.
Amy Durland questioned the availability of more bike racks and bike access to more perimeter
locations.
Mike West, Skidmore College stated it is part of Skidmore’s plan to introduce more bike racks
and even indoor storage of bicycles for their students. Anticipate placing bike racks at the top of
the hill because the elevation change is so great it is really not particularly practical to ride bikes
up the hill.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman questioned if there was anyone in the audience who wished to
comment on the Skidmore College – Scribner Village Replacement application?
None heard.
SEQRA:
Review of SEQRA Part I and Part II.
Jamin Totino made a motion based on the information provided by the applicant on Part I of the
SEQRA Full Environmental Assessment Form and analysis of the information provided and
presented in Part II of the SEQRA Full Environmental Assessment Form I find that the project
will not result in any large or important impacts and therefore is one that will not have a
significant adverse impact on the environment. Based on this I move to make a SEQRA
negative declaration for this action. Seconded by Philip Klein.
VOTE: J. Totino, in favor; A. Durland, in favor; M. Perkins, in favor; P. Klein, in favor;
D. Gaba, in favor; S. Bernardi-Cleary, in favor; C. Van Wagner, in favor
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MOTION PASSES: 7-0
Michael Perkins made a motion for site plan approval for Skidmore College Scribner Village
Replacement. Seconded by Jamin Totino.
VOTE: J. Totino, in favor; A. Durland, in favor; M. Perkins, in favor; P. Klein, in favor;
D. Gaba, in favor; S. Bernardi-Cleary, in favor; C. Van Wagner, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
10:10 PM BOARD RECESSED.
10:10 PM BOARD MEMBER SUZANNE CLEARY LEFT THE MEETING.
10:15 PM BOARD RECONVENED.
5. #10.024 LOGISTICS ONE FLEX WAREHOUSE EXPANSION, 29, 31, & 33 Cady Hill
Boulevard, site plan review of warehouse expansion in the IND-G General Industrial
District.
Applicant: William McNeary
Agent: Rob Osterhout, & Pat Mitchell, Creighton Manning Engineering
SEQRA:
Project appears to be an unlisted action.
This site is currently divided among 4 parcels; applicant seeking to expand each of the
buildings. Project last seen by the Planning Board on May 26, 2010. Traffic was the primary
issue.
Rob Osterhout with Creighton Manning representing the applicant William McNeary. Since the
last meeting we have prepared a traffic evaluation and submitted that to the Board. Several
intersections were studied one is the Cady Hill Boulevard and Geyser and the second
intersection was as Route 50 and Geyser. There is currently a Gateway Study going on in the
Route 50 corridor. Recommendations for improvements at that intersection are part of the
Gateway Study which will address capacity and pedestrian facilities at that intersection. Traffic
evaluation basically agrees with the approach. There is a capital project on the horizon. We
would like to move forward with this particular project under the same premise that we have with
other projects in the park recently where that capital project is basically the catalyst that will help
make the improvements at the intersections necessary for the greater area and not just for this
particular project.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated he along with Bradley Birge (Kate Maynard, Principal
Planner will be also be involved) attended a meeting at Geyser Industrial Park several months
ago and the key company was Quad Graphics. They had a $75,000 line item that the IDA has
which expires on which expires in March of 2011. For various reasons they were not
willing to utilize that for anything. We had a great meeting. Quad Graphics has agreed to let
the money go for a study specifically for Route 50 and Geyser Road. Logistics One, Bill
McNeary, Saratoga Eagle, the Munters, Ball, Slack Chemical have all agreed to invest some
money. Mr. Bent from the Saratoga County IDA has agreed to speak to the County. This will
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be a collaborative effort to really study that intersection. This committee is specifically
addressing the intersection.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman questioned the Board for any additional comments or concerns?
Kate Maynard, Principal Planner questioned the cross access and parking easements between
lots?
Mr. Osterhout stated there will be an extension of the easements to accommodate the
expansion of the two buildings.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, questioned who would be responsible for the maintenance of
the shared storm water facility?
Mr. Osterhout stated there is an easement to 33 Cady Hill that will own and operate that storm
water management and be responsible for the maintenance of that facility.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated that the landscaping for the site is minimal. There is an
opportunity to further buffer or berm especially along Cady Hill Boulevard frontage, as this is the
primary access to the industrial park.
The applicant stated they have no objection to adding increased landscaping to the front of the
property.
Amy Durland questioned the traffic study results presented at the May meeting, regarding both
AM and PM peak hours. I am extremely happy that this collaborative effort is happening. I wish
this application were after rather than during the process. I have a lot of concerns about a
project that generates this amount of traffic and the effect on the community. I wish it were
settled now rather than in negotiations.
Discussion ensued regarding traffic study, trip generations both AM and PM peak hours.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, stated we have an Industrial Park that has been in existence
for a long time and is a use that is allowed. I am not sure we can hold up this project until that
solution is done or even finalized. This is quite a significant application and proposal which has
been submitted. I think that we have an obligation to hear this and try to solve as much as we
can. I am not sure we can hold up a use in an approved Industrial District like this.
Mike Perkins stated I struggle with the same issue that Amy Durland has. I guess the only thing
that makes me agree with Cliff is the fact that this park is designed exactly for this use. It is a
problem and I am not sure who we should be escalating this to. I know there are studies
underway but I think maybe it should get a little more attention. There is so much going on here
and it's only going to get worse.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman questioned if anyone in the audience wished to speak regarding
the Logistics One Flex Warehouse Expansion?
None heard.
The applicant received recently some comments from Paul Male and we will address those
comments which were relatively minor technical issues.
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SEQRA:
Amy Durland stated she does not support this. She has questions regarding how this will play
out.
Any further questions or comments.
Jamin Totino stated based upon the information provided by the applicant in Part I of the
SEQRA short Environmental Assessment Form, and analysis of the information provided and
presented in Part II of the SEQRA short Environmental Assessment Form, I find the project
will not result in any large or important impact and is therefore one that will not have a significant
adverse impact on the environment. I move to issue a SEQRA negative declaration for this
action. Seconded by Dan Gaba.
Clifford Van W anger, Chairman, asked if there were any further questions or comments.
None heard.
VOTE: J. Totino, in favor; Michael Perkins, in favor; P. Klein, in favor; D. Gaba, in favor;
Clifford Van Wagner, in favor
OPPOSED: A. Durland
ABSENT: S. Bernardi-Cleary left at 10:10 PM.
MOTION PASSES: 5-1
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman questioned the Board if the members felt comfortable voting on
the site plan approval.
Michael Perkins made a motion to accept the site plan as presented with confirmation of storm
water management to the satisfaction of Paul Male, City Engineer. Seconded by Philip Klein.
VOTE: J. Totino, in favor; Michael Perkins, in favor; P. Klein, in favor; D. Gaba, in favor;
Clifford Van Wagner, in favor
OPPOSED: A. Durland
ABSENT: S. Bernardi-Cleary
MOTION PASSES: 5-1
6. #10.053 SKIDMORE COLLEGE TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITY, 77 Van Dam
Street, public hearing for a special use permit for telecommunications facility in the
Urban Residential-3 District.
Applicant: Cellco Partnership d/b/a Verizon Wireless
Agent: Scott Olson
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SEQRA:
This appears to be a Type I action.
DISCLOSURES:
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman is employed at Wesley, owner of Embury Apartments, site of
existing telecommunications facility, no reason for recusal.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman opened the public hearing. The public hearing will remain open
until the December 22, 2010 meeting.
Scott Olson, agent, Verizon Wireless gave a brief overview of the project to the Board.
We are proposing to install antennae at existing buildings at 77 Van Damm Street. The
antennae (6) will be located on the cupola. The equipment will be located in the basement of
the building and what we are proposing to do is install a faux chimney to hide the cables. This
site was chosen because extra coverage and capacity in northern Saratoga is needed. This
application may affect one of our pending applications.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated the Board will initiate a request for lead agency on this
application with DRC.
The application will be placed on the December 22, 2010 agenda.
7. #10.049 166 JEFFERSON STREET, 166 Jefferson Street, site plan review of 10
unit residential building in the Urban Residential-4 District.
Applicant: Steve Ethier
SEQRA:
Appears to be an unlisted action.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, stated this applicant appeared before this Board two weeks
ago.
Steve Ethier stated packets have been circulated to the Board. Three new plans have been
submitted. All three proposals could work. One plan would require a waiver for two buildings
and one would require a side yard variance. Surveys are done TOPO is done. No problem with
on site drainage. All the utilities are there. Infrastructure brought in on a previous project.
Direction from the Board regarding which map they prefer. All three plans would require a
minimum relief on one side yard. All three plans offer 33 to 36% green space. He is looking for
guidance on which of three plans Board likes, will come back with more detailed plans after.
Any other comments from the Board?
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated is there anyone in the audience who wishes to comment
on this application?
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None heard.
The Board reviewed all three options and it was the Boards consensus that plan C would be the
one preferred by all members of the Board.
No action will be taken by the Board this evening.
1. 05.057.2 BEAVER POND VILLAGE, discussion of a final 85 lot subdivision
in the Rural Residential-1 and Urban Residential -1 Districts.
Applicant: Saratoga East Avenue Associate, LLC
Agent: Dan Ruzow, Whiteman, Osterman and Hanna, Chad Cooke, Boswell Engineering.
DISCLOSURES:
Michael Perkins recused himself.
Dan Gaba disclosed that he does own rental property on 74 Quevic Drive.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, stated the Board is now down to five members. Suzanne
Bernardi-Cleary has left, and Mike Perkins has recused himself. At the last Board meeting
the applicant indicated Andrew Johnson from the North American Land Trust would be giving
the Board to give an overview of their proposal for the conservation easement and to enlighten
the Board and to move this project along.
Terresa Bakner stated the conservation easement would be held by North American Land Trust.
The fee owner would continue to be the developer for the beginning part of the project with it
slowly being transitioned over to the homeowners association. All of the initial work will be done
by the developer, that is the Karner Blue Butterfly Management area, the trails anything that
physically needs to be done pursuant to the permits and approvals. The land trust takes over,
holds the conservation easement, and has the monitoring and other obligations to make sure
that indeed every aspect of the conservation easement is followed and that there are no
encroachments on the area.
Mr. Andrew Johnson, President, North American Land Trust. Mr. Johnson gave a brief
presentation on the inception of the North American Land Trust and its holdings throughout the
Country.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman questioned if the Board has any questions or concerns.
Amy Durland stated she still has some reservations regarding the conservation easement and
needs some time to review the information submitted.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this
application?
None heard.
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Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated no action will be taken this evening. We appreciate Mr.
Johnson coming and speaking to the Board and make his presentation. There is a lot of
information to review. My suggestion to the Board is to review management plan, and review
the conservation easements and be prepared to address at the next meeting.
APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES:
Jamin Totino requested approval of minutes of the November 10, 2010 meeting with corrections
as submitted.
VOTE: J. Totino, in favor; A. Durland, in favor; P. Klein, in favor; D. Gaba, in favor;
ABSENT: Suzanne Bernardi-Cleary; Mike Perkins
ABSTAIN: Clifford Van Wagner
MOTION PASSES: 4-0-1
MOTION TO ADJOURN:
There being no further business, Clifford Van Wagner adjourned the meeting at 12:02 A.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Diane M. Buzanowski
Recording Secretary
Approved: 1/12/11
City of Saratoga Springs Planning Board Meeting Minutes – December 8, 2010 - Page 14 of 14
Agenda
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS CLIFFORD VAN WAGNER, Chair
JAMIN TOTINO, Vice Chair
AMY DURLAND
P LANNING B OARD MICHAEL PERKINS
PHILIP W. KLEIN
City Hall - 474 Broadway DAN GABA
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 SUZANNE BERNARDI-CLEARY
Tel: 518-587-3550 fax: 518-580-9480
www.saratoga-springs.org
Planning Board Meeting – December 8, 2010
City Council Room – 7:00 PM
Agenda
Workshop: Monday December 6 at 5pm in the City Council Room
Salute to Flag
A. Applications under Consideration:
1. 10.052 CDJT Workforce Housing, Citywide, City Council request for an Advisory Opinion for review of
Zoning Amendment Proposal request for workforce housing.
2. 07.089.2 Pavilion Grand, 30 Lake Avenue, extension of site plan approval for mixed use building in the
Transect-6 District.
3. 10.047 Ellsworth Ice Cream Building, 120 Division Street, site plan review of mixed use building in the Division
Street Planned Unit Development District.
4. 10.042 The Mews, 60 Weibel Avenue, site plan discussion of mixed use building in the Transect-4 District.
5. 10.044 Skidmore College- Scribner Village Replacement, 815 North Broadway, site plan review of residential
dormitories in the Institutional-Educational District.
6. 10.024 Logistics One Flex Warehouse Expansion, 29, 31 & 33 Cady Hill Boulevard, site plan review of
warehouse expansion in the IND-G General Industrial District.
7. 10.053 Skidmore College Telecommunications Facility, 77 Van Dam Street, public hearing for a special
use permit for telecommunications facility in the Urban Residential-3 District.
8. 10.049 166 Jefferson Street, 166 Jefferson Street, site plan review of 10 unit residential building in the
Urban Residential-4 District.
9. 05.057.2 Beaver Pond Village, 98 Geyser Road, final review of 85 lot subdivision in the Rural Residential-
1 and Urban Residential-1 Districts.
B. Approval of Minutes: 11/10/10
Next meeting: December 22 (w/ December 20 caravan & workshop)
Note: This agenda is subject to change. To verify the actual agenda prior to the meeting, please contact the Planning Office at 587-3550 extension 2533 or the
City of Saratoga Springs Website at www.saratoga-springs.org
Revised 12/8/2010 12:50 PM
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