Planning Board
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · December 22, 2010
Minutes
PLANNING BOARD
MINUTES
WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 22, 2010 7:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL ROOM
PRESENT: Clifford Van Wagner; Chair, Jamin Totino; Vice Chair,
Amy Durland,
Michael Perkins, Philip Klein, Suzanne Bernardi-Cleary
ABSENT: Dan Gaba
STAFF : Kate Maynard, Principal Planner
Mark Schactner, Counsel to the Planning Board
CALL TO ORDER:
Clifford Van Wagner called the meeting to order at 7:05 P.M.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF RECORDING OF PROCEEDING:
Clifford Van Wagner stated the proceedings of this meeting are being taped for the benefit of
the secretary. Because the minutes are not a verbatim record of the proceedings, the minutes
are not a word-for-word transcript of the recording.
COMMENTS FROM THE CHAIR:
UPCOMING PLANNING BOARD MEETING/AGENDA WORKSHOPS:
Next Planning Board Caravan, Scheduled for Monday, January 10, 2011 at 4:00 P.M.
Next Planning Board Workshop, Scheduled for Monday, January 10, 2011 at 5:00 P.M.
Next Planning Board Meeting, Scheduled for Wednesday, January 12, 2011 at 7:00 P.M.
RECOGNITION OF MICHAEL PERKINS
Clifford Van W anger, Chairman stated that tonight is Michael Perkins last meeting as member
of the Planning Board. Mike has been an excellent Board member. Thanks to Mike for all his
service to the community. The Board will miss him. The new Planning Board Member will be
introduced at the January 12th Planning Board Meeting, Mr. Howard Pinsley, who has been
appointed by the Mayor.
PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR:
Opportunity for citizens in the audience to address planning issues not on tonight’s agenda.
None heard.
ADJOURNED AT APPLICANT'S REQUEST – WAITING FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
10.013 WHITE FARMS ROAD BED AND BREAKFAST, 66 White Farms Road, public hearing
for special use permit for six room corridor bed and breakfast in a Rural Residential-1 District.
10.028 CELLCO-VERIZON CELL TOWER, 81 Nelson Avenue, SEQRA evaluation of potential
environmental impact for a new 90’ monopine telecommunications tower and associated
equipment in an Urban Residential-2 District.
10.027 307 GRAND AVENUE MULTI-FAMILY, 307 Grand Avenue, public hearing on special
use permit for a multi-family housing in the Transect-4 District.
10.031 307 GRAND AVENUE MULTI-FAMILY, 307 Grand Avenue, review of site plan for multi-
family housing in the Transect-4 District.
A. LETTERS OF CREDIT:
1. 04.033.3 EXCELSIOR PARK – PHASE 1B, 45 Eureka Avenue.
Applicant: John Witt
Letter of credit expires on December 31, 2010.
Letter of credit amount to remain at $60,500.
DISCLOSURE:
Amy Durland stated as a private citizen, she expressed concerns about this project when it was
originally under review, the Assistant City Attorney indicated that I need not recuse myself from
subsequent reviews. I am able to review this project objectively and fairly and to reach an
impartial decision.
City Engineer expressed no concerns to extend.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, asked if there are any questions, comments or concerns by
Board or staff?
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to speak regarding
this application?
None heard.
Jamin Totino made a motion to extend the letter of credit for Excelsior Park – Phase 1B,
for 18 months in the amount of $60,500. Seconded by Michael Perkins.
VOTE: J. Totino, in favor; A. Durland, in favor; M. Perkins, in favor; P. Klein, in favor;
S. Bernardi-Cleary, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, in favor
ABSENT: D. Gaba
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
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2. 08.051.1 ROSEBROOK SUBDIVISION, CLEMENT AVE & CARRIAGE LN.
Applicant: Renee Rosebrook
Letter of Credit expires on December 31, 2010.
Letter of Credit amoutn is $4,300.
Clifford Van W agner, Chairman stated this Planning Board granted a subdivision approval on
November 12, 2008. The current letter of credit expires on December 31, 2010. We are asking
to approve an 18 month extension with no reduction in the amount.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this
application?
None heard.
Any comments from the Board or staff.
None heard.
Jamin Totino made a motion to extend the letter of credit for Rosebrook Subdivision B,
for 18 months in the amount of $4, 300. Seconded by Amy Durland.
VOTE: J. Totino, in favor; A. Durland, in favor; M. Perkins, in favor; P. Klein, in favor;
S. Bernardi-Cleary, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, in favor
ABSENT: D. Gaba
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
3. 03.088.3 LEXINGTON CLUB, 52 MARION AVENUE
Applicant: Beechwood Associates, Andre Schmid
Agent: Dave Carr, LA Group
Site plan approved in October 15, 2003. Special use permit approved on July 9, 2003,
extension granted to December 7, 2005. Area variance approval granted, most recent
extension 12/31/06. DRC architectural review 06/01/01. All approval are preserved due to
building permit being issued aned start of actual construction.
Letter of credit expires on December 30, 2010.
Current Letter of Credit amount $444,756.
Request 18 month extension until June 30, 2010.
The site was left abandoned mid-construction. The fence is falling down in places. This is an
important gateway location to the City and is aesthetically unpleasing. Discussion will be held
with the applicant regarding proposed plans to further secure the site, as well as provide
temporary screening until construction begins again. The applicant is due to appear before the
Board at the first Planning Board Meeting in January. The Board can at that time articulate to
the applicant what the Board expects of the applicant regarding maintenance of the site.
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Philip Klein made a motion to extend the letter of credit for the Lexington Club, for 18 months
in the amount of $444,756. Seconded by Suzanne Bernardi-Cleary.
VOTE: J. Totino, in favor; A. Durland, in favor; M. Perkins, in favor; P. Klein, in favor;
S. Bernardi-Cleary, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, in favor
ABSENT: D. Gaba
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
B. APPLICATIONS UNDER CONSIDERATION:
4. 05.057.2 BEAVER POND VILLAGE, 98 Geyser Road, final review of 85 lot
subdivision in the Rural Residential – 1 and Urban Residential – 1 Districts.
Applicant: Saratoga East Avenue Associate, LLC
Agent: Dan Ruzow, Whiteman, Osterman and Hanna
Chad Cooke, Boswell Engineering
DISCLOSURE:
Mike Perkins, recussed himself from this application, as he has in the past discussions on this
application.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, stated tonight the Board will be discussing the Conservation
Easement, the Open Space Management Plan and the HOA documents. Mark Schactner,
Counsel for the Planning Board is here this evening as well.
Mr. Mark Schactner, Counsel for the Planning Board, stated the applicant has presented to the
Board and to counsel the remaining documents that are required for final subdivision approval.
The documents are the Conservation Easement, the Open Space Managment Plan and the
HOA documents and final subdivision maps. The Board has had these documents for several
weeks. First and foremost these documents are very good thorough and detailed first draft
documents. We identified no fatal flaws, nothing in the draft documents that leads us to
conclude that these documents cannot be revised in a manner that I would recommend for
adoption and approval by the Board. We have prepared some comments which have been
presented to the Board previously as internal communication by way of memoranda. Hopefully,
the Board has had a chance to review those comments. Many of them are fairly detailed,
picky little technical type comments but a couple of them are bigger picture comments. These
bigger picture comments are largely shared by staff, by counsel and by one Planning Board
member who provided some comments in advance. The big picture comments largely have to
do with making sure that the three documents Conservation Easement, Open Space
Management Plan and the HOA declaration, need to better indicate how they fit together, the
documents are not really stand alone documents, they can be but I feel they should not stand
alone and they should better indicate how they fit together and how the property owner and the
conservation easement holder and the HOA responsibilities jive and fit together in the context of
each of the three documents. Proceeding in the most efficient way possible, if the Board is
comfortable to continue is to authorize to send the applicant a version of the memorandum
collecting all the comments together for the applicant to prepare a next generation set of
documents. I will be very very surprised if the applicant and its project team views any of the
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comments as shocking, appalling, outrageous, deal breaking, etc., etc. I think that if we are
authorized to send some version of our memoranda to the applicant I would not be surprised if
the next generation document does not get us better than 90% of where we are comfortable that
the documents do everything they are supposed to do.
Discussion ensued among Board members regarding the memoranda from Mark Schactner,
the Conservation Easement, the Open Space Management Plan and the HOA documents.
Amy Durland questioned the subdivision restriction listed in the document.
Mr. Ruzzo stated this is for protection purposes. You would need the holders permission as
well as the City's. This is standard language the Army Corp or Engineers uses for districts
around the country. It is to be clear if something were to happen they have rights. The City has
its rights no matter what happens.
Mark Schactner stated this adds another restriction on potential future subdivisions. It is what I
call an internal restriction. If the holder of the conservation easement, the HOA, the private
sponsor or whomever else involved in the decision making activity decides they want to further
subdivide the property they can only do so if whoever holds the easement also affirmatively
signs off on it. That does not mean that they can do so. They then have to come to the
Planning Board.
Amy Durland stated she understands, and that maybe standard language, but for our purposes I
would like to have a better idea of what circumstances might arise for that situation.
Mr. Ruzzo stated he will ask that question of the author and return to the Board with a response.
Amy Durland stated in the Conservation Easement Document under the Subdivison Category
the document further states nothing herein shall prohibit this subdivision...... and the area
labelled on Schedule B, as future development area from the protected property, the future
development area shown on Schedule D is not part of the protected properties. This brings us
to Lot #85. I have raised the issue of Lot #85 for literally years in this project review. I have
stated numerous times that a conservation analysis should be done on that property and that
has not been acquiesed to. I now believe that some of Lot #85 has been deemed part of the
conservation area and yet the Planning Board to my knowledge has still not received a
conservation analysis for that lot. I don't know where the development of Lot #85 should be
taking place if we have not conducted a conservation analysis on that lot. Isn't there a specific
area that is designated as a development area?
Mr. Ruzzo, stated there is an area that is carved out of the conservation easement but there
was a conservation analysis done to the entire parcel both 209 acres, it is the large photo with
all the details on it, that describes the lands and what it consists of.
Amy Durland stated, you know for years I have been saying a conservation analysis is needed
and I have it noted in many documents that I have submitted to the Board. It needs to be
provided for Lot #85 and that has never been agreed upon.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, stated if this Board has not asked for it then it doesn't have to
be submitted.
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Amy Durland, stated she agreed with Cliff, except that there is an area designated as an area of
development. My point is I do not believe that that area can be designated until the
conservation analysis has been done for that lot by our own regulations.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated that is so noted.
Amy Durland stated, in reference to the Karner Blue Butterfly Habitat section in the
management plan, I personally would be more comfortable and would prefer that the section be
reviewed by someone who has significant expertise in the management of the Karner Blue
Butterfly such as the Wilton Wildlife Preserve or the State. My own comfort level would be that
the perspectives, not just those of the biologist but an advocacy group for the butterfly might be
useful and helpful for everyone to have some of the details worked out on the mangement of the
butterfly.
Dean Long, of the LA Group stated that Kathy O'Brien did comment on the entire plan and a lot
of the details as far as where the the seed sources would be collected, how much clearing she
wanted, and what was the density of lupines she wanted. The shading factors that she was
looking for were all from Kathy O'Brien. There is sufficient detail there and she did look at this
two or three times plus the US Fish and Wildlife Staff from Cortland had looked at it. They both
participated in examining those portions of the Open Space Management Plan. The DEC
permit was held up until they had conferred with Kathy O'Brien regarding the submissions on all
of this. In fact when we had expanded some of the boundaries and changed some of the lots,
we were involved with the DEC staff relative to talking with Kathy. She has had her hand in this
regarding directing the LA Group.
Chad Cook, Boswell Engineering gave a brief presentation on the phasing of the project.
The applicant will be speaking with staff and counsel to keep this project moving in the right
direction.
5. 10.058 SIROS, 168 Lincoln Avenue, special use permit for outdoor entertainment
in the Institutional-Horse Track Related District.
Applicant: Racing Restaurants of America
Agent: John Carusone
SEQRA:
Project appears to be a Type II action.
BACKGROUND:
On May 21, 2002 the City Council rezoned this property from UR-2 to INST-HR.
On June 19., 2002 the Planning Board issued a temporary special use permit for this site. That
special use permit has expired. On March 19, 2003 the Planning Board issued a permanent
special use permit for this property – primarily for the indoor eating and drinking establishment.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated that the applicant is before the Board this evening to
request an extension of those activities, such as an extension of Saturdays to 4-11 pm hours,
and parking waiver. This permit is renewable each year.
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John Carusone, Attorney for Racing Restaurants of America. Racing Restaurants of America
purchased the property in July of 2010. Keith Kantro and Toby Porter are here with me tonight.
Siro's does have a permanent special use permit. The only portion which is renewable is the
outdoor entertainment portion of it. Things have changed with NYRA. There have been days
added to the meet, and the applicant feel that we should be given a little more than we used to
have, in terms of the number of days which we did operate outdoors until 11:00 am. The
applicants do understand that there have been some problems in the past and we are prepared
to discuss those with the Board.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated that neighbors have provided verbal and written
comments regarding complaints of issues which continue, trash collection, noise abatement,
fencing and re-orientation of the stage.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Peter Crowley, partner in CRDN Properties which is the largest property owner within that
block. We received a letter, a week or so ago, mentioning the criteria for tonight's Planning
Board meeting. I am here to speak on behalf of Siro's restaurant, and I welcome them to
Saratoga Springs. Their patrons utilize our parking lot which does help us out. They are trying
to help commerce and help the City of Saratoga Springs.
Larry King, 126 Nelson Avenue, Saratoga Springs. We have been going through this for
several years and we are trying to work through this. There are some issues which have not
been compliant. They center on noise, parking, and garbage.
Mike Belott, 132 Nelson Avenue, Saratoga Springs. They are very happy for the use of
compactors since the location of the dumpsters in very near their property line. This should help
with the noise and the smell.
Sarah Bogon, 129 Nelson Avenue, Saratoga Springs. There are issues with non compliance.
It is not so much the decibel level, it is playing on days they are not allowed to play, its playing
beyond hours they are not supposed to play. We have two young children and the track season
has been extended into September. We have children who are getting ready for school. They
are getting up at 7:00 am in the morning. They are being kept up very late and it is very
frustrating, for them and for us. We find trash in our yard and somethings you do not want to
find in your yard. We have found people passed out in our front yard, urinating on our front
porch at 2:00 am. We have called the police, so it is interesting that there is no log.
Furthermore, we called the police during track season last year because a car was parked in
front of our driveway. We were discouraged by the police officer to have the car towed. We
were asked to keep it there until the person returned. These are the things that are happening.
Norm Brousseau, 104 Nelson Avenue, Saratoga Springs. The one thing that bothers us is the
parking. No one attends the parking lot once they collect the money. We do have people
urinating on the fence. Someone should be responsible for the lot.
John McMahon, attorney for Rose Tate, neighbor having property at Lincoln Avenue, one door
down from Siro's. The application gave the impression that prior compliance with these
regulations by the former owners was substantial and that is just not so. The idea that the
police have not received complaints about the noise – I have a file full of complaints in my office.
Mrs. Tate has spoken to the new owners and she feels the new owners should be given a
chance to prove that they will comply with the regulations that are before you and are
reasonable.
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Keith Kantrovicz, owner, explained the new owners position. We want to be good neighbors.
We are trying to rectify the decibel level and do an honest business and be legal in every way.
We are willing to work with the Board and with our neighbors.
Philip Klein asked if the applicant could provide a decibel level of what does 75 decibels sound
like. Some examples, such as a lawnmower, etc., and how can this be mitigated. If someone
could identify whose property the camper was parked on. Is a twelve foot wall allowable in the
City of Saratoga Springs? Kate Maynard will check with the police department regarding
complaints during racing season in the Siro's neighborhood. Perhaps Kate can investigate how
the City can enforce the 75 decibel level?
Amy Durland stated she has some confusion regarding parking. There is some confusion
regarding how much parking is provided versus how much parking is needed. Someone
indicated that you do not need as much parking as you are paying for. There must be some
way of analyzing what is needed based upon the number of customers. Perhaps the
applicant when they return to the Board can clarify actually what the parking needs are
and give the Board a better picture of what is actually needed.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated this is not the time of the year to test how the sound
carries, no foliage trees, etc., perhaps you can come up with Plan A or Plan B. Can this be
tested in May or June before the track season begins. A dialogue has been started. Both sides
will keep talking. The applicant has access to staff, and will notify them when they wish to
appear before the Board again.
10:00 pm the Board recessed
10:05 pm the Board reconvened.
6. 7.081.1 FARRA SUBDIVISION EXTENSION, 417 and 419 Church Street,
extension of two lot subdivision in the Rural Residential-1 District.
Applicant: Michael Farra
SEQRA: No additional SEQRA review is required with this proposed extension
This 2-lot subdivision was filed with Saratoga County February 15, 2009, thus legally
subdivided. Subdivision was filed with Saratoga County February 15, 2008, thus legally
subdivided.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated the applicant is here because of Subdivision Regulations:
Article II, (1) E. "Unless an extension is granted by the Board, approval on any subdivision shall
expire if the applicant fails to close on a sale of a single building lot within the subdivision with
three (3) years of the filing date of the approved plat plan with the Saratoga County Clerk. The
applicant may apply to the Planning Board for an extension of the expiration date of the original
subdivision approval. The Planning Board may grant the extension only if the determination of
the Board, in its sole discretion, finds that the reason for the extension is based upon
extraordinary conditions, or conditions that are largely out of the applicant's control.”
Applicant's request is for a 3 year extension of approval until February 15, 2014. There is no
minimum or maximum time frame associated with extension.
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Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there were any further questions or comments from the
Board.
None heard.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to speak regarding this
application.
None heard.
Mike Perkins made a motion for a three year extension of approval of a subdivision. Second by
Jamin Totino.
VOTE: J. Totino, in favor; A. Durland, in favor; M. Perkins, in favor; P. Klein, in favor;
S. Bernardi-Cleary, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, in favor
ABSENT: D. Gaba
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
7. 07.089.2 PAVILION GRAND, 30 Lake Avenue, extension of site plan approval
for mixed use building in the Transect-6 District.
Applicant: Prime Management, LLC – Dean Devito
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated the last time the applicant appeared before the Board
the site plan was revised to less office space and 48 apartments. The applicant has submitted
photographs and overlays from various corners and exposures so the Board can view what it
will potentially look like.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated that Board must make a determination on the extension
of the site plan for the construction of Pavilion Grande, due to the state of the economy.
The applicant is looking for an 18 month extension.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there was anyone in the audience who wished to speak
on this application.
None heard.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there were any further comments from the Board.
None heard.
Mike Perkins made a motion to grant an 18 month extension of the site plan for the construction
of Pavilion Grande. Seconded by Amy Durland.
VOTE: J. Totino, in favor; A. Durland, in favor; M. Perkins, in favor; P. Klein, in favor;
S. Bernardi-Cleary, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, in favor
ABSENT: D. Gaba
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated now we have the site plan amendment to deal with.
There was concern regarding traffic impact, however at their last appearance before the Board
representatives from Creighton Manning stated there is little to no impact.
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It was the consensus of the Board that the site plan amendment could be handled through an
Admininstrative Action.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on the
Pavilion Grand site plan amendment application..
None heard.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, asked if there were any further questions or comments from the
Board.
None heard.
Mike Perkins made a motion to allow an Administrative Action to revise the site plan as
discussed at the 12/22/2010 Planning Board Meeting. Second by Suzanne Cleary.
VOTE: J. Totino, in favor; A. Durland, in favor; M. Perkins, in favor; P. Klein, in favor;
S. Bernardi-Cleary, in favor;
OPPOSED: Clifford Van Wagner, opposed
ABSENT: D. Gaba
MOTION PASSES: 5-1
8. 10.053 VAN DAM TELECOMMNICATIONS FACILITY, 77 Van Dam Street,
public hearing for a special use permit for telecommunications facility in the
Urban Residential-3 District.
Applicant Cellco Partnership d/b/a Verizon Wireless
Agent: Scott Olson, Rick Andress, RF Engineer
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated we are being asked to consider an antennae on top of 77
Van Dam Street which is located at the corner of Van Dam Street and Lawrence. There is a
cupola on top of the building. The antenae are proposed to be attached to the cupola. The
wires will be concealed behind a faux chimney on the north side of the building.
DISCLOSURE:
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman is employed at the Wesley Healthcare Center and one of our
corporations Embury Apartments has the telecommunication facilities on it. I have provided a
letter to this Board to that effect. This is simply a disclosure and not a recusal.
Mr. Olsen stated six antennae will be placed on the cupola, the equipment will be located in the
basement of the building. We will run the wires from the basement up to the cupola and they
will be covered by a faux chimney to match the outside of the building
A visual presentation was made to the Board.
Rick Andress, RF Engineer, stated these antennae are needed due to customer growth.
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To keep the service reliable and consistent and to keep up with consumer demand this location
with text messings, wireless internet, etc., There are so many user that there is not enough
capacity especially during the summer months and the racing season and tourist season.
SEQRA:
Jamin Totino stated based on the information provided in Part I of the SEQRA full
Environmental Assessment Form and analysis of the information provided and presented in Part
II of the SEQRA Full Environmental Assessment Form I make a motion for a negative SEQRA
declaration since the project will not result in any large and important impacts and therefore is
one that will not have a significant adverse impact on the environment. Second by Philip Klein.
VOTE: J. Totino, in favor; A. Durland, in favor; M. Perkins, in favor; P. Klein, in favor;
S. Bernardi-Cleary, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, in favor
ABSENT: D. Gaba
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there was anyone in the audience wishing to speak
regarding the special use permit application.
None heard.
Michael Perkins made a motion for a special use permit, based upon the fact that it meets the
criteria outlined in the ordinance. It is not detrimental to health, safety and well being of the
community. There are adequate safeguards to minimize the potential detrimental effects
of the proposed use on the adjacent properties and it is compatible with the existing character
of the neighborhood. Second by Jamin Totino.
VOTE: J. Totino, in favor; A. Durland, in favor; M. Perkins, in favor; P. Klein, in favor;
S. Bernardi-Cleary, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, in favor
ABSENT: D. Gaba
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
9. 10.052 CDJT WORKFORCE HOUSING, Citywide, City Council request for an
Advisory Opinion for review of Zoning Amendment Proposal request for
workforce housing.
Applicant: Dave Jelenik and Charles Touhey
Presenting: Tonya Yasenchak, Engineering America
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated we are being asked by the City Council to give an
Advisory Opinion for review of a Zoning Amendment Proposal request for workforce housing.
Two weeks ago we had a presentation by Tonya and Engineering America and we heard about
the overall proposal and counsel has indicated that we basically have to find on this
recommendation that it is not contrary to the general purposes and intent of the Zoning Chapter
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240 and that the proposed revision is in accordance with the Comprehensive Plan.
Tonya Yasenchak provided the Board with a small map of the area which is being discussed.
At the next meeting, an overhead presentation and map will be provided to the Board.
At the Planning Board workshop the Board requested a map which designated what area you
are proposing this revision. We also need clarification on the adjacent parcels and also, we
would like an explanation of your proposal to include the UR-1, UR-2, UR-3, and UR-4
collectively and not just one or two, but why it is all four of these. Several recommendations
were given to the applicant to research and present upon her return to the Board.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated we will leave this application open. The applicant should
stay in contact with staff and inform her when you are ready to reappear before the Board.
APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES:
Philip Klein, requested approval of minutes of the November 23, 2010 meeting with corrections
as submitted. Seconded by Jamin Totino
VOTE: J. Totino, in favor; P. Klein, in favor; M. Perkins, in favor; S. Cleary, in favor;
C. Van Wagner, in favor;
ABSENT: D. Gaba
ABSTAIN: A. Durland
MOTION PASSES: 5-0-1
MOTION TO ADJOURN:
There being no further business, Clifford Van Wagner adjourned the meeting at 11:25 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Diane M. Buzanowski
Recording Secretary
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Agenda
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS CLIFFORD VAN WAGNER, Chair
JAMIN TOTINO, Vice Chair
AMY DURLAND
P LANNING B OARD MICHAEL PERKINS
PHILIP W. KLEIN
City Hall - 474 Broadway DAN GABA
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 SUZANNE BERNARDI-CLEARY
Tel: 518-587-3550 fax: 518-580-9480
www.saratoga-springs.org
Planning Board Meeting – December 22, 2010
City Council Room – 7:00 PM
Agenda
Workshop: Monday December 20 at 5pm in the City Council Room
Salute to Flag
A. Letters of Credit:
1. 04.033.3 Excelsior Park- Phase 1B, 45 Eureka Avenue.
2. 08.051.1 Rosebrook Subdivision, Clement Avenue and Carriage Lane.
3. 03.088.3 Lexington Club, 52 Marion Avenue.
B. Applications under Consideration:
4. 05.057.2 Beaver Pond Village, 98 Geyser Road, final review of 85 lot subdivision in the Rural
Residential-1 and Urban Residential-1 Districts.
5. 10.058 Siros, 168 Lincoln Avenue, special use permit for outdoor entertainment in the Institutional-
Horse Track Related District.
6. 7.081.1 Farra Subdivision Extension, 417 and 419 Church Street, extension of two lot subdivision in
the Rural Residential-1 District.
7. 07.089.2 Pavilion Grand, 30 Lake Avenue, extension of site plan approval for mixed use building in the
Transect-6 District.
8. 10.053 Van Dam Telecommunications Facility, 77 Van Dam Street, public hearing for a special use
permit for telecommunications facility in the Urban Residential-3 District.
9. 10.052 CDJT Workforce Housing, Citywide, City Council request for an Advisory Opinion for review
of Zoning Amendment Proposal request for workforce housing.
B. Approval of Minutes: 11/23/10
Next meeting: January 12 (w/ January 10 caravan & workshop)
Note: This agenda is subject to change. To verify the actual agenda prior to the meeting, please contact the Planning Office at 587-3550 extension 2533 or
the City of Saratoga Springs Website at www.saratoga-springs.org
Revised 12/22/2010 10:50 AM
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