Planning Board
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · September 27, 2011
Minutes
PLANNING BOARD
MINUTES
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 27, 2011
7:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL ROOM
PRESENT: Clifford Van Wagner, Chair; Tom L. Lewis, Vice Chair; Amy Durland; Philip Klein; Dan Gaba;
Howard Pinsley
LATE ARRIVAL: Dan Gaba arrived at 7:04 P.M.
STAFF: Bradley Birge, Administrator – Planning and Economic Development
CALL TO ORDER: Chair Clifford Van Wagner called the meeting to order at 7:03 P.M.
SALUTE TO THE FLAG
ANNOUNCEMENT OF RECORDING OF PROCEEDING
Clifford Van Wagner stated the proceedings of this meeting are being taped for the benefit of the secretary. Because
the minutes are not a verbatim record of the proceedings, the minutes are not a word-for-word transcript of the
recording.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF ADJOURNED PROJECTS:
ADJOURNED AT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST
11.034 181 PHILA NEIGHBORHOOD ROOMING HOUSE, 181 Phila Street, site plan for neighborhood rooming
house in the Urban Residential-3 District.
11.012.1 SEWARD STREET APARTMENTS, Corner of Seward Street & Morgan Street, site plan for multi-family
apartment complex in the Urban Residential-4 District.
10.013 WHITE FARMS ROAD BED AND BREAKFAST, 66 white Farms Road, public hearing for special use permit
for six room corridor bed and breakfast in a Rural Residential-1 District.
10.052 CDJT WORKFORCE HOUSING, Citywide, City Council request for an Advisory Opinion for review of Zoning
Amendment Proposal request for workforce housing.
11.002 BUFF ROAD SUBDIVISION, BUFF ROAD AND ROUTE 9N, public hearing for a final 15 lot subdivisioin in
the Urban Residential-1 and Rural Residential-1 Districts.
11.020 DUPRAS SUBDIVISION, 29 and 47 Staffords Bridge Road, public hearing on a 2 lot subdivision in the Rural
Residential-1 District.
AJOURNED – WAITING FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
10.028 CELLCO-VERIZON CELL TOWER, 81 Nelson Avenue, SEQRA evaluation of potential environmental impact
for a new 90' monopine telecommunications tower and associated equipment in a Urban Residential-2 District.
10.027 307 GRAND AVENUE MULTI-FAMILY, 307 Grand Avenue, public hearing on special use permit for multi-
family housing in the Transect-4 District.
10.031 307 GRAND AVENUE MULTI-FAMILY, 307 Grand Avenue, review of site plan for multi-family housing in the
Transect-4 District.
COMMENTS FROM THE CHAIR:
ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIONS:
11.023.1 OLD BRYAN INN: Applicant requested waivier of Letter of Credit for project for work below $10,000 cost
estimate limit. Administrative action waived the $8,642 letter of credit.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF UPCOMING PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS/AGENDA WORKSHOP:
Planning Board Caravan scheduled for October 10, 2011 at 4:00 P.M.
Planning Board Workshop scheduled for October 10, 2011 at 5:00 P.M.
Planning Board Meeting scheduled for October 12, 2011 at 7:00 P.M.
PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman gave this opportunity to allow citizens to address planning issues not on the
scheduled agenda.
None heard.
LETTERS OF CREDIT
1. 09.013.2 MCDONALD'S, 197 South Broadway, Letter of Credit Revision.
Applicant: McDonald's USA
Agent: Bohler Engineering
Neither applicant nor agent appeared before the Board for this application.
SEQRA:
No SEQRA action is required.
McDonald's site plan was approved 05/12/10. Existing Letter of Credit is $90,000 with expiration date of September
30, 2011. Proposed reduction to $5,000, with outstanding item the as-built drawings for the site. Letters of Credit by
code are not permitted to be reduced to less than $25% of amount which is $22,500.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman made a motion to approve McDonald's letter of credit extension to March 31, 2012 in
the amount of $22,500.
Seconded by Dan Gaba.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion by the Board.
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None heard.
VOTE: Tom Lewis, Vice Chair, in favor; A. Durland, in favor; P. Klein, in favor; D. Gaba, in favor;
H. Pinsley, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
2. 09.001.1 PARK GROVE-PHASE II, 7 Joshua Road, Letter of Credit Revision.
Applicant: Landfall Holdings, LLC
Applicant did not appear before the Board for this application.
SEQRA:
No SEQRA action is required.
Park Grove Phase II, is a 6 lot subdivision approved by the Planning Board on April 20, 2009. Agreement that the
Letter of Credit for Phase I and Phase II will be combined. Subdivision has been filed at the County. Request is to
extend the existing $28,900 Letter of Credit for 12 months.
Philip Klein stated since the City Engineer has made no comments or recommendations I will make a motion to
approve the Park Grove-Phase II Letter of Credit extension for 18 months until March 31, 2013.
Seconded by Tom Lewis.
VOTE: Tom Lewis, Vice Chair, in favor; A. Durland, in favor; P. Klein, in favor; D. Gaba, in favor;
H. Pinsley, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
3. 07.093.2 MEADOW VISTA, 520-546 Grand Avenue, Letter of Credit Revision.
Applicant: Charlew Builders
Applicant did not appear before the Board for this application.
SEQRA:
No SEQRA action is required.
Applicants request to reduce the existing $786,700 Letter of Credit to $289,429.75. The City Engineer commented
on this application at the work shop and he has approved the reduction to the new amount based upon the amount of
work which has been done, and what is outstanding. An 18 month extension would be until March 31, 2013.
Howard Pinsley made a motion to reduce the Meadow Vista Letter of Credit to $289,429.75 with an extension of 18
months.
Seconded by Dan Gaba.
VOTE: Tom Lewis, Vice Chair, in favor; A. Durland, in favor; P. Klein, in favor; D. Gaba, in favor;
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H. Pinsley, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
APPLICATIONS UNDER CONSIDERATION:
4. 10.032.1 CHLOE'S WAY SUBDIVISION, East Broadway, extension of subdivision approval in the Urban
Residential-2 District.
Applicant: Steven Ethier
SEQRA:
No further SEQRA action is required with subdivision extension.
This is a 31 lot subdivision approved by the Planning Board on September 29, 2010 with conditions.
Applicant is requesting an 18 month extension since the Department of Health will not approve City projects until
their water requirements are met. Email received 09/12/2011 from the Department of Health stated they will sign
final plans for Chloe's Way at this point.
Mr. Ethier stated the plans were signed by the Department of Health this date, September 27, 2011.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there were any comments from the Board.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
Philip Klein made a motion to approve the 18 month extension of subdivision in the Chloe's Way Subdivision.
Seconded by Dan Gaba.
VOTE: Tom Lewis, Vice Chair, in favor; A. Durland, in favor; P. Klein, in favor; D. Gaba, in favor;
H. Pinsley, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
5. 11.036 DOYLE SUBDIVISION, West Side of Adams Street (Between Gridley and Crescent), public hearing
on a three lot subdivision in the Urban Residential-2 District
This application is for a three lot subdivision that also includes a lot line adjustment. The applicant was advised to
complete the lot line adjustment prior to any further action, It is the City's process prior to property transactions
that all zoning and requirements are met and to not conflict with the City's policies. Applicant moved forward with the
conveyance of property and merging with subject parcel. The lot line adjustment included the conveyance
of Faiola 179.29-2.-13.1 and merged with portion to Doyle 179.29-2-13.31, and portion to adjacent Faiola parcel
179.29-2-15. Proposed 3 lot subdivision is under Mr. Doyle's ownership.
Applicant: James Doyle
Agent: Dan Wheeler
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Mr. Doyle gave a brief overview of the project.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated that the applicant wants to create three lots one is 9,300 square feet,
the second is 7500 square feet and the third is 7500 square feet. This is a UR-2 district which requires 6600 square
feet as the minimum square footage for lots. You exceed that. The Zoning Code states that you need a 60 foot
minimum width and you have 60, 60 and 74. So, all the zoning has been met. The reason you are here for a
subdivision approval is you are increasing the density taking one lot into three.
Bradley Birge, Administrator, Planning and Economic Development stated the City Engineer's notes indicate the
subdivision plan water line appears to be incorrect – no water main at this location. The Department of Public Works
indicates the water main runs from Gridley Street north to the City's pump station and end in this general vicinity.
There is no know main to serve building lots as shown on the subdivision plans. As such, the developer will be
required to extend the main north from pump station and provide a hydrant at the terminus.
site which is to be removed.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there were any questions or comments from the Board.
None heard.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on the Doyle subdivision
application.
Roy Learman, 39 Gridley Street. A copy of the plans were provided to the neighbor. Mr. Learman asked regarding
the infrastructure improvements the storm sewers, the public sewer and sanitary sewer and the water line. Who
proposed to pay for that improvement?
Mr. Doyle stated that depending on the input from the City Engineer. If the City Engineer stated that dry wells were
acceptable I would put them self contained on site. If they elected to go with the sanitary sewer it would not be a big
project since the pumping station is close by. However, the storm sewer from all indications would run to Crescent
Street. If that is the case I would certainly go to the southern most end of that property. I would pay from my
property to Crescent Street.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated in the past when there are minor engineering issues outstanding such as
connections and things like that, this Board never questions the City Engineer. We have been known in the past
to approve a project contingent upon final comments from the Engineer. I feel we have a few unknows here
regarding sewer, water, and drainage. Perhaps Mr. Doyle can sit down with the City Engineer and staff before we
resolve this. There is no one here with any opposition to the subdivision issue present. All zoning requirements are
met. The Planning Board is more concerned with the infrastructure issues.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there were any comments or questions from the Board.
Amy Durland asked the applicant if they have street trees and street lights noted on the plan.
Mr. Doyle, stated we do have two beautiful pines which are currently there. Prior to the addition of any further trees
we would like to check sewer and water lines. I will be happy to put lights and trees per the City standard.
Philip Klein asked if there was any screening planned for the neighbor to the south on Lot #1 which overlooks the
horse barn.
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Mr. Doyle stated he believes this is part of the ambiance. Due to the size of the lot I may decide to keep that home
for myself. There will be arbovitae staggered along the fence and this will be done here on both sides of the fence
line.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there were any other questions or comments from the Board.
None heard.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if anyone else in the audience wished to comment on this application.
Todd Sirillo, 134 Crescent Street questioned the garage placement.
The applicant clarified Mr. Sirillo's area of concern.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated there will be another opportunity to speak when the applicant returns to the
Board.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated we will review the application, and ask Mr. Doyle to speak with staff and the
City Engineer and return to the Board with the issues regarding the infrastructure, lights, sidewalks and curbs. The
Board will meet again in two weeks.
6. 11.040 LANDS OF LEAFARC, 53-63 Spring Street, special use permit for mixed use building in the
Transect-5 Neighborhood Center District.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated in September 2011 a Special Use Permit for proposed construction of first
floor 2100 sq. ft retail space, second floor 2300 sq. ft residential space (one residential unit) and a third floor 500 sq ft
for mechanical equipment for both floors. The project includes combining the two lots and maintaining the existing
two-story office building at 53 Spring Street. If the Special Use Permit is approved this evening it will require Site
Plan Review by this Board and need DRC approval.
SEQRA:
This is a Type II action.
Applicant: Gloria and Anthony Swiatek
Agent: John Muse, Muse Architect
Architect: Jason Tommell and Jeremy Schneible, Tommell and Associates
DISCLOSURE:
Jason Tommell stated he is on the City of Saratoga Springs Design Review Board as an alternate. He is not here
tonight in that official capacity.
Mr. Tommell stated the applicants are here this evening requesting a Permanent Special Use Permit for the
construction of a two story building. The first floor 2100 sq feet retail space and second floor 2300 sq feet residential
space. This property is located across the street from Congress Park and is in an Urban Residential Area which is
somewhat challenging. We meet the specific requirements of a T-5 zone, so scale, appropriateness, rhythm and
character of the neighborhood is critically important especially being directly across the street from Congress Park
and next to the Bread Basket.
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Mr. Muse stated the Swiateck's would like to build a two story building. Mr. Swiateck is one of the more renowned
coin experts in the world. His wife a former banker from New York City have moved here and would like to open a
coin consulting business and shop on the first floor. The second floor will provide an apartment for them to live.
They own this building and also the building on the corner. The applicants would like to place a driveway between
the properties to a shared parking area in the back of the building for both properties. Mr. Muse gave a brief
overview of the project. Slide presentation was made.
Jason Tommell continued with some of the issues facing this project as well as concerns of the Board. Primary
access will be off of Spring Street with a secondary access drive and the existing access drive servicing the Bread
Basket. Porous pavement is proposed in the parking area. The site statistics identify 4 parking spaces required – 3
for first floor retail and 1.5 for the one residential unit on the second floor. A total of 11 spaces including one
handicap space provided. Storm water management was discussed as well as lighting.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated the plans are well done.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there were any questions or comments from the Board.
Amy Durland asked what is the SEQRA status of this application.
Bradley Birge, Administrator, Planning and Economic Development stated staff looked at that and also consulted with
our special counsel as well. We identified it as SEQRA Type II action, requiring no additional SEQRA evaluation for
that. It is actually two components both of which are specific Type II actions. The non residential, the construction
expansion of non residential activities less than 4,000 square feet which would be the first floor retail section of this
project is a Type II action requiring no further action. The residential unit on the second floor is also a Type II action
also identified as a one, two or three family residences. Even though combined they are both individually and
collectively Type II actions there is no additional SEQRA review for them.
Amy Durland stated what she is questioning is the Jones Ferradino Letter which was distributed prior to the meeting
which indicates that the property is substantially contiguous to two national register of historic places properties,
Congress Park and the Bread Basket property and therefore would invoke a Type I SEQRA review.
Bradley Birge, Administrator, Planning and Economic Development stated they are correct it is adjacent to a National
Register Property, Congress Park which is also a City Landmark Property as well as being in the historic district next
to the Bread Basket. However, coordinated review is only begun or commenced when in fact there is SEQRA
review. So if you are a Type II action, you can't thrust it into a Type I action if there is no SEQRA review necessary in
the beginning. If it were an unlisted action, if adjacency would cause it to be transferred to a Type I action, which
would then require coordinated review.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there are any further questions or comments from the Board.
None heard.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
Libby Coreno. I am the author of the letter that was referred to by Ms. Durland. We would just reiterate our position
in the letter that in fact there are other provisions in SEQRA that specifically deal with an action that would be Type II
which would otherwise be a Type II but cannot function as a Type II because of what is addressed in 617.4; and
617.5 which says you cannot have a Type II if it would otherwise be considered a Type I. So, that is what we are
relying on and I offer that out as a follow up statement.
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Amy Durland asked if Jones Ferradino represents the Bread Basket.
Libby Coreno stated they represent the Bread Basket which is the immediate adjacent easterly neighbor.
Amy Durland asked if your client has concerns about this project.
Libby Coreno stated yes we do. Tonight we are here really because I understand the SEQRA was the issue before
the Board. That is what we are raising but certainly there are issues that were addressed in 2006 and 2008 which as
the Chairman pointed out are somewhat different because of the size difference of the project. There are other
issues and I think Mr. Tommell adequately addressed that with respect to ingress and egress, an extra curb cut and
a number of things substantively that my client would have addressed but certainly the foremost issues was SEQRA.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated I spoke with Brad and he specifically reached out to Mark Schachner to
address this issue knowing that it would be questioned tonight.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there were any other questions or concerns from the Board regarding
Special Use only.
Amy Durland stated any remaining questions that we may have about the parking and about access to the parking lot
would all be addressed at site plan.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated absolutely. Brad has at my request reached out to Mark Benaquista and he is
not adverse to the additional curb cut. Traffic commented on requesting a stop sign before the sidewalk, and
indicated that the proposed access would not deteriorate existing conditions.
Amy Durland stated we will discuss the curb cut on Spring Street in further detail at the site plan review. I would like
to see the pros and cons of each option.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience would like to speak regarding this application.
None heard.
Philip Klein made a motion to approve a special use permit for mixed use building in the Transect-5 Neighborhood
for 2100 square feet of retail, 2300 square feet of one single apartment and a small 500 square foot mechanical room
on the third floor. The height of the parapet is 28 feet. The height to the top of the mechanical building is 36 feet.
It is an appropriate use, mixed use and fits well.
Seconded by Tom Lewis.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
Amy Durland stated in terms of the Special Use Permit standards it would appear that it meets the standards and
particularly the overall compatibility of the use with the neighborhood and the impact on the community character I
believe has been met with this proposal.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
Hearing none.
VOTE: Tom Lewis, Vice Chair, in favor; A. Durland, in favor; P. Klein, in favor; D. Gaba, in favor;
H. Pinsley, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, in favor
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MOTION PASSES: 6-0
7. 11.041 FAMILY DOLLAR, 2214 Route 50, sketch discussion of site plan for retail
store in the Highway General Business District.
In March 20087 ZBA interpreted that a car rental facility was consistent with auto sales/service which is
permitted in this district. Planning Board approved site plan on August 22, 2008 with subsequent DRC approval in
September 2008. The property is located within the Highway General Business District and within "Zone A" of the
Gateway Overlay District-I. The intent is to encourage intensive, clustered, commercial node while preserving
"rural gateway".
SEQRA:
Action appears to be an unlisted action.
DISCLOSURE:
Philip Klein stated he is employed by the Adirondack Trust Company and he has no financial interest in this project.
There is no need for recusal.
Applicant: Gary DeRusso
Agent: Gavin Vuillame, Landscape Architect - EDP
Mr. Vuillame stated the applicant is here to gain some knowledge from the Board as far as what the applicant can do
to make the application better. Mr. Vuillame gave a brief overview of the project. This proposal is for an 8300 square
foot one story general retail store. A Family Dollar store. The site is approximately 1.3 acres. It is zoned Highway
Business District. The property is currently vacant. Mr. Vuillame discussed the topography of the site. Prototypes of
the store layout were presented for the Boards review. The Family Dollar does like to have it's parking in the front of
the building, with overflow parking on the side. We are currently anticipating sharing an existing driveway on Route
50 to limit the number of curb cuts and we would be sharing the driveway with the existing bank. We are making
provisions for pedestrian traffic. There are existing sanitary sewers, storm water would be handled on site. Municipal
water.
Clilfford Van Wagner, Chairman stated the fact that it is an entrance and gateway to the City brings back some
familiarity when McDonald's appeared before this Board some time ago and this Board insisted that the design
standards, the location, arrangement, size, design and site compatibility, signage and everything have to make a
statement because we are going to use in this case as a barometer for other development on the entrance to the
City. That being said the building height should be two stories and the Board will be looking for that. The fact that
Family Dollar is a national chain, the fact that they have some boiler plate designs drawings for different projects
is not necessarily going to give you a lot of flexibility. We are going to hold you to a higher standard. You should be
prepared to step outside of the box of what the corporate Family Dollar structures look like. We are looking for two
stories. Regarding parking our standards for the Gateway state no more than 20% of the parking shall be located in
front of the building, which is contrary to what your opening statements were. We will look at how the parking is
situated. We spoke about shared parking between the sites. We would like to see loading and unloading take place
in the rear of the building for aesthetics. Clustering these buildings would be nice.
Discussion ensued regarding the shared driveway with the Adirondack Trust, clustering of the buildings, shared
parking, frontage requirements, storm water management and a second story.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience would like to speak regarding this application.
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None heard.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated there is no formal action taken with a sketch plan. You are entitled to two
sketch plans and this will be a work in progress. Overlays are helpful. The applicant should stay in touch with staff
and notify them when you are ready to return to the Board you will be placed on the Agenda.
Bradley Birge, Administrator, Planning and Economic Development stated that we appreciate the applicants and the
agents coming in early on to have some discussions. We welcome them to key the applicants into the sections of the
Zoning Ordinance and to better prepare them for their time before the Boards.
Philip Klein questioned where the water supply was coming from just for clarification.
The applicant stated Ballston Spa.
8. 11.043 5 EAST BROADWAY, 5 East Broadway, request for an advisory opinion to the Zoning Board of
Appeals for an area variance in the Urban Residential-2 District.
This is a referral from the ZBA for an advisory opinion in regard to a proposed variance from required 60 feet to 54
feet for the mean lot width of all three lots. The applicant has demonstrated that a three lot subdivision could be
achieved that meets all the requirements without variances, but is proposing variances from area lot width to provide
for more standard lot configuration. Standard configuration typically is desirable for property owners ability to
generally understand property line location. A subdivision can be legally achieved without a variance, there is not an
increase in density associated with the proposed variance. The potential future subdivision could include discussion
on the existing abandoned home on the site and its removal prior to the subdivision approval, access, streetlights,
street trees, drainage, etc.
SEQRA:
No SEQRA action is required with an advisory opinion.
Applicant: Belmonte Builders
Agent: Gavin Vuillame, EDP
Mr. Vuillame gave a brief overview of the project. Maps were provided to the Board. One is the actual variance map
which shows the lots as the applicant would like to develop them, the second one is the actual layout that was first
designed and actually does meet the ordinance in all regards concerning the mean lot width. The three lots
themselves would be over 8,000 square feet, the frontage would be approximately 54 feet and some change and we
are looking for a 6 foot mean lot width area variance. We are able to meet all the building setbacks. These are all
single family homes. The side yard setbacks are 8feet and 12 feet. These home are consistent with those in the
area.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there are any further comments from the Board.
Discussion ensued regarding attached garages versus detached garages, square footage of the proposed homes,
and building setbacks.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
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Wally Berger, 10 Cleveland Avenue. Congratulations to the Board for the McDonalds design, quite an asset to the
community. Regarding the subdivision, these lots are approximately in line with the lots in the neighborhood. We do
not have a particular problem with this.
Clyde Jasinski, 5 Davids Lane. Questioned whether another property was going to be divided, however upon
discussion discovered it is owned by another owner. Mr. Jasinski obtained information on researching the current
owners contact information.
Charlene Berger, 10 Cleveland Avenue. East Broadway is very narrow and bumpy. I am concerned about having
more houses. What are the plans for East Broadway, the actual street in front of the new houses.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated this is an advisory opinion to the Zoning Board. If this is positive and the
Zoning Board votes on it, then the applicant will return to this Board for site plan on subdivision. At that meeting we
will discuss all those issues.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there are any further questions or comments from the Board.
None heard.
Clifford Van Wagner, stated what we are being asked for is strictly an Advisory Opinion to the Zoning Board
again it is non binding is there a motion on the floor for an Advisory Opinion to the Zoning Board for the Area
Variance for strickly the mean lot width.
Tom Lewis made a motion for an Advisory Opinion to the Zoning Board for the Area Variance for strictly the mean lot
width.
Seconded by Howard Pinsley.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE: Tom Lewis, Vice Chair, in favor; Amy Durland, in favor; Philip Klein, in favor;
Dan Gaba, in favor; Howard Pinsley, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES:
Approval of Meeting Minutes was deferred to the October 12, 2011 meeting.
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, Clifford Van Wagner adjourned the meeting at 9:15 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Diane M. Buzanowski
Recording Secretary
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Agenda
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS CLIFFORD VAN WAGNER, Chair
TOM L. LEWIS, vice chair
AMY DURLAND
P LANNING B OARD PHILIP W. KLEIN
DAN GABA
City Hall - 474 Broadway HOWARD PINSLEY
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866
Tel: 518-587-3550 fax: 518-580-9480
www.saratoga-springs.org
Planning Board Meeting – September 27, 2011
City Council Room – 7:00 PM
Agenda
Workshop: Monday September 26 at 5pm in the City Council Room
Salute to Flag
A. Letters of Credit:
1. 09.013.2 McDonald’s, 197 South Broadway, Letter of Credit Revision.
2. 09.001.1 Park Grove-Phase II, 7 Joshua Road, Letter of Credit Revision.
3. 07.093.2 Meadow Vista, 520-546 Grand Avenue, Letter of Credit Revision.
B. Applications under Consideration:
4. 10.032.1 Chloe’s Way Subdivision, East Broadway, extension of subdivision approval in Urban Residential-
2 District.
5. 11.036 Doyle Subdivision, West Side of Adams Street (Between Gridley and Crescent), public hearing on
a three lot subdivision in the Urban Residential 2 District.
6. 11.040 Lands of Leafarc, 53-63 Spring Street, special use permit for mixed use building in the Transect-5
Neighborhood Center District.
7. 11.041 Family Dollar, 2214 Route 50, sketch discussion of site plan for retail store in the Highway
General Business District.
8. 11.043 5 East Broadway, 5 East Broadway, request for an advisory opinion to the Zoning Board of
Appeals for area variance in the Urban Residential-2 District.
B. Approval of Minutes: September 14, 2011
Next meeting: October 12 (w/ October 10 caravan & workshop)
Note: This is a draft agenda and is subject to change. To verify the actual agenda prior to the meeting, please contact the Planning Office at 587-3550 extension
2533 or the City of Saratoga Springs Website at www.saratoga-springs.org
Revised 9/27/2011 3:41 PM
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