Planning Board
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · October 26, 2011
Minutes
PLANNING BOARD
MINUTES
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2011
7:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL ROOM
PRESENT: Clifford Van Wagner, Chair; Tom L Lewis, Vice-Chair; Philip Klein; Jamin Totino
ABSENT: Dan Gaba; Amy Durland; Howard Pinsley
STAFF: Kate Maynard, Principal Planner, City of Saratoga Springs
CALL TO ORDER: Chair Clifford Van Wagner called the meeting to order at 7:06 P.M.
SALUTE TO THE FLAG
ANNOUNCEMENT OF RECORDING OF PROCEEDING
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated the proceedings of this meeting are being taped for the benefit of the
secretary. Because the minutes are not a verbatim record of the proceedings, the minutes are not a word-for-word
transcript of the recording.
REPORT ON ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIONS BY THE CHAIR
There are no actions by the chair.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF ADJOURNED PROJECTS:
ADJOURNED AT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST:
11.034 181 PHILA NEIGHBORHOOD ROOMING HOUSE, 181 Phila Street, public hearing special use permit for
neighborhood rooming house in the Urban Residential-3 District.
10.013 WHITE FARMS ROAD BED AND BREAKFAST, 66 White Farms Road, public hearing for special use permit
for six room corridor bed and breakfast in a Rural Residential-1 District.
10.052 CDJT WORKFORCE HOUSING, Citywide, City Council request for an Advisory Opinion for review of Zoning
Amendment Proposal request for workforce housing.
11.002 BUFF ROAD SUBDIVISION, BUFF ROAD AND ROUTE 9N, public hearing for a final 15 lot subdivision in
the Urban Residential-1 and Rural Residential-1 Districts.
11.020 DUPRAS SUBDIVISION, 29 and 47 Staffords Bridge Road, public hearing on a 2 lot subdivision in the Rural
Residential-1 District.
ADJOURNED – WAITING FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
11.012.1 SEWARD STREET APARTMENTS, Corner of Seward Street & Morgan Street, site plan for multi-family
apartment complex in the Urban Residential-4 District.
06.034.3 KAMEN CENTER, 120 WEST AVENUE, modification of site plan in the Transect-5 District.
11.015 S & D REALTY MANAGEMENT, 120 West Avenue, lot line adjustment in the Transect-5 District.
10.028 CELLCO-VERIZON CELL TOWER, 81 Nelson Avenue, SEQRA evaluation of potential environmental impact
for a new 90' monopine telecommunications tower and associated equipment in a Urban Residential-2 District.
10.027 307 GRAND AVENUE MULTI-FAMILY, 307 Grand Avenue, public hearing on special use permit for multi-
family housing in the Transect-4 District.
10.031 307 GRAND AVENUE MULTI-FAMILY, 307 Grand Avenue, review of site plan for multi-family housing in the
Transect-4 District.
COMMENTS FROM THE CHAIR:
ANNOUNCEMENT OF UPCOMING PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS/AGENDA WORKSHOP:
Planning Board Caravan scheduled for Monday, November 7, 2011 at 4:00 P.M.
Planning Board Workshop scheduled for Monday, November 7, 2011 at 5:00 P.M.
Planning Board Meeting scheduled for Wednesday, November 9, 2011 at 7:00 P.M.
PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR
Opportunity to allow citizens to address planning issues not on the scheduled agenda.
None heard.
APPLICATIONS UNDER CONSIDERATION:
1. 11.011 MARTELL BROTHERS' BREWING COMPANY, 381 Broadway, site plan for restaurant
and brew pub in the Transect-6 District.
Applicant: Chris Martell
Agent: Jason Tommell, Tommell and Associates; Mike Brooks, Tommell and Associates;
Jessie Boucher, Kodiak Construction;
SEQRA:
Action appears to be Type I.
The Design Review Commission is an involved agency, NYS SHPO interested agency.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated the DRC deferred Lead Agency Status at it's October 19, 2011 meeting.
SHPO was sent all relevant items for review, 30 day window for comment will expire November 11, 2011.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated a brew pub is a permitted use upon site plan review within the T-6 "An eating
and drinking establishment where certain beverages are prepared on the premise for exclusively for on-site
consumption. The brewing of such beverages is accessory to the eating and drinking establishments. The project
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last appeared for sketch review at the Planning Board's July 13 meeting. At that time it was two buildings and from
the reading that we found at the workshop on Monday, the applicant has respondended very thoroughly to concerns
from both the DRC and the Saratoga Historic Preservation Foundation and has changed his application to a single
building and has relocated some of the services within. The Zoning Board has granted several variances which were
required.
Mr. Martel stated the last time we were here we were proposing two different structures one to house the brewing
facility and one for the restaurant. Since the last time we responded to some concerns specifically concerns set forth
by Sheila Parkert, owner of the Adelphi Hotel. We also had a meeting with the Saratoga Historic Preservation
Foundation. We also received a letter from Sheila Parker's attorney, Mr. David Harper who is here this evening
setting forth some concerns. We tried to meet with the entire team and attempt to addresss all of these concerns
with design with the difference in operations and we put that a comprehensive memorandum which you all should
have received. Chris Martell gave a brief overview of the project. We have gone to a single structure. There is no
mezzanine. We have reconfigured the entire area in a way that allows the same amount of seating locating the
brewing equipment on the second floor. We moved the kitchen to the other side and moved the vents to the other
side of the building. Discussion related to brewing operation and potential impacts such as smell, steam, noise from
outdoor activities, rear access for loading/unloading, garbage provisions, and stormwater management concept for
site. Also information regarding landscaping and lighting plans were provided. The Zoning Board of Appeals granted
two variances for the project on September 19, 2011. The build to line from frontage relief of 63' granted. Minimum
percent build-out of frontage: Relief from 80% required to 9% provided granted. Additional variance received
October 17 for total of 87 ft of relief from front build to line.
Philip Klein questioned ingress and egress from the building as well as whether National Grid has an easement
recorded for the property.
Within the narrative provided for the project under sketch review, the aplicant noted the "intent to feature acoustic
acts (e.g., classical guitar, jazz, etc., ) and limit the entertainment to reasonable hours. Outdoor entertainment of any
sort will end no later than 10 PM on weekdays, and no later that 11 PM on the weekends". This will be offered as
a condition of any approval.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated a Lot line adjustment configuration will need to be provided, and can be
considered within the application, or acted upon separately.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated a letter has been received from attorney David Harper on behalf of the Adelphi
Hotel. Planning Board members are in receipt of this. There are several outstanding items. SHPO will be given 30
days to respond. If they do not respond within the time frame that will be indicative of no comment. This cannot be
waived. The City Engineer has requested some additional stormwater details and a SWPPP will need to be done.
Utility connections and clarification are needed. More detailed information required regarding stormwater practicese
including infiltration planters and sub-surface storage area including overflow structure and device.
Jamin Totino questioned the entertainment portion of this application.
Mr. Martell explained their ideas for entertainment.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there were any further comments from the Board.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on the Martell Brothers
Brewing Company application.
David Harper, attorney for Sheila Parkert, owner of the Adelphi Hotel. Right now there is no amplified music on
Broadway. This is new territory that we are venturing into. HVAC is another issue. These have been moved and we
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are requesting information concerning the new location and the sound blanket. I will contact the applicant regarding
the units to be used. The kitchen exhaust is an issue as well as the brewery exhaust. More technical details would
be helpful. Garbage is a concern. Despite the best intentions of any applicants there have been problems with the
noise ordinance and the enforcement of such.
No further comments from the audience.
Philip Klein questioned the snow removal.
Mr. Martell stated they do have a plan in place. If the snow becomes to much to manage onsite they will definitely
institute a plan to have snow removed from the site.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated the applicant can return before the Board again in two weeks.
2. 11.036 DOYLE SUBDIVISION, West Side of Adams Street (Between Gridley and Crescent),
public hearing on a three lot subdivision in the Urban Residential-2 District.
Applicant: Jim Doyle
Agent: Dan Wheeler
This project was last seen by the Planning Board at the September 27, 2011 meeting. This application is for a three
lot subdivision that also includes a lot line adjustment. Applicant was advised to complete lot line adjustment prior to
any further action as City's process prior to property transactions that all zoning and requirements are met and do
not conflict with City policies. Applicant moved forward with the conveyance of property and mergining with subject
parcel.
Lot line adjustment – Conveyance of Faiola 179.29-2.-13.1 and merged with: portion to Doyle 179.29-2-13.31, and
portion to adjacent Faiola parcel 179.29-2-15. Proposed 3 lot subdivision is of total parcel under Doyle's ownership.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there were any further questions or comments from the Board.
None heard.
Tom Lewis made a motion for a lot line adjustment to yield three separate and distinct buildable lots, all meeting the
zoning code requirements.
Seconded by Philip Klein.
VOTE:
Philip Klein, in favor; Jamin Totino, in favor; Tom Lewis, Vice Chair, in favor;Clifford Van Wagner, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 4-0
SEQRA - PART I:
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Tom Lewis, Vice Chairman made a motion to accept Part I of the SEQRA form.
Seconded by Jamin Totino.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Philip Klein, in favor; Jamin Totino, in favor; Tom Lewis, Vice Chair, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 4-0
SEQRA - PART II
Jamin Totino stated that based upon the information provided by the applicant in Part I of the SEQR Short
Environmental Assessment Form, and analysis of the information provided and presented in Part II of the SEQR
Short Environmental Assessment Form, the project will not result in any large and important impacts and, therefore,
is one that will not have a significant adverse impact on the environment. Based on this, I move to make a SEQR
negative declaration for this action.
Seconded by Tom Lewis, Vice Chairman.
VOTE:
Philip Klein, in favor; Jamin Totino, in favor; Tom Lewis, Vice Chair, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 4-0
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated a motion is needed to approve a three lot subdivision. Public testimony states
that the project is in accordance with the Zoning and there are no area variances required.
Jamin Totino made a motion to approve a three lot subdivision in the Urban Residential-2 District.
Seconded by Philip Klein.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Philip Klein, in favor; Jamin Totino, in favor; Tom Lewis, Vice Chair, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 4-0
APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES
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Jamin Totino made a motion to approve the minutes of the October 12, 2011 meeting with corrections/changes
as submitted.
Seconded by Philip Klein.
VOTE:
Tom Lewis, Vice Chair in favor; Philip Klein, in favor; Jamin Totino, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 4-0.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, Clifford Van Wagner adjourned the meeting at 8:10 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Diane M. Buzanowski
Recording Secretary
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Agenda
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS CLIFFORD VAN WAGNER, Chair
TOM L. LEWIS, vice chair
AMY DURLAND
P LANNING B OARD PHILIP W. KLEIN
DAN GABA
City Hall - 474 Broadway HOWARD PINSLEY
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 JAMIN TOTINO
Tel: 518-587-3550 fax: 518-580-9480
www.saratoga-springs.org
Planning Board Meeting – October 26, 2011
City Council Room – 7:00 PM
Agenda
Salute to Flag
A. Applications under Consideration:
1. 11.010.1 Martell Brothers Brewing Company, 381 Broadway, site plan review of new restaurant and pub
in the Transect-6 District.
2. 10.013 White Farms Road Bed and Breakfast, 66 White Farms Road, public hearing for special use permit
for six room corridor bed and breakfast in a Rural Residential-1 District.
3. 11.036 Doyle Subdivision, West Side of Adams Street (Between Gridley and Crescent), public hearing on
a three lot subdivision in the Urban Residential 2 District.
B. Approval of Minutes: October 12, and September 14, 2011.
Next meeting: November 9 (w/ November 7 caravan & workshop)
Note: This agenda is subject to change. To verify the actual agenda prior to the meeting, please contact the Planning Office at 587-3550 extension 2533 or the
City of Saratoga Springs Website at www.saratoga-springs.org
Revised 10/26/2011 4:25 PM
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