Planning Board
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · December 11, 2013
Minutes
PLANNING BOARD
MINUTES (FINAL)
WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 11, 2013
7:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL ROOM
PRESENT: Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman; Tom L. Lewis, Vice Chairman; Dan
Gaba;
Philip Klein; Howard Pinsley; Mariesa Coppola; Robert Bristol
STAFF: Kate Maynard, Principal Planner, City of Saratoga Springs
CALL TO ORDER: Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman called the meeting to order at 7:05 P.M.
SALUTE TO THE FLAG
ANNOUNCEMENT OF RECORDING OF PROCEEDING
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated the proceedings of this meeting are being recorded for the benefit of the
secretary. Because the minutes are not a verbatim record of the proceedings, the minutes are not a word-for-word
transcript of the recording.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF ADJOURNED PROJECTS
ADJOURNED PENDING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
13.063 BEEKMAN STREET ZONING AMENDMENT
13.031 RIP VAN DAM HOTEL, 353 Broadway, site plan review of hotel, group entertainment, and
eating and drinking in the Transect-6 District.
13.055 HAMILTON STREET PARKING GARAGE, Hamilton Street between Congress and William Streets
in the Transect-6 District, special use permit for parking structure.
13.056 HAMILTON STREET PARKING GARAGE, Hamilton Street between Congress and William Streets,
site plan review in the Transect-6 District.
COMMENTS FROM THE CHAIR:
UPCOMING PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS/AGENDA WORKSHOPS:
Planning Board Caravan, Monday, January 6, 2014 at 4:00 P.M.
Planning Board Workshop, Monday, January 6, 2014 at 5:00 P.M.
Planning Board Meeting, Wednesday, January 8, 2013 at 7:00 P.M.
PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR:
Opportunity to allow citizens to address planning issues not on the scheduled agenda.
None heard.
A. APPLICATIONS UNDER CONSIDERATION:
1. 13.058 MOORE SUBDIVISION, 120 Catherine Street, public hearing for a two lot subdivision in the Urban
Residential-2 District.
2. 13.070 FELDMAN/MOORE LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT, 120 Catherine Street and East Avenue, lot line
adjustment.
Applicant: Suzanne Moore & Roger Feldman
Agent: Jim Furey, Agent for Suzanne Moore; David Shaver, Northeast Land Survey
SEQRA:
Action appears to be unlisted.
Streetlight detail needs to be updated to reflect LED. Brick walkway condition question if any replacement is needed
on caravan. Mature 24' white pine located on the east side of proposed lot 2 could this be preserved.
Lot line adjustment survey determined a 1.4 ft encroachment of the house on 51 East Avenue, adjacent parcel to the
south. Lot line adjustment proposed to convey a 4-5 ft area to resolve encroachment, allow for space for access/
maintenance of the house. This is a separate action.
Mr. Furey stated the parcel is being divided into two parcels creating a new home site. Existing house will remain
on the current existing parcel. The sidewalk is subject to the City code 5 feet wide. Streetlight with LED lighting
along Catherine Street.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated there was some concern regarding the current state of the sidewalk and
the fact that it is in disrepair. Since there will be construction vehicles and the current sidewalk will be uprooted the
Board would like to propose a new sidewalk.
Mr. Furey stated John Witt is the owner of the new lot. Per City code one street light is required every 120 feet.
Street trees will be planted surpassing the City requirements. Mr. Witt also was concerned regarding the sidewalk
and will provide a new sidewalk on the new parcel. Regarding the 24' mature white pine, it will probably need
to be removed.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman opened the public hearing at 7:18 P.M.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated Tim Wales, City Engineer has no issues with the water or sewer.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman closed the public hearing at 7:20 P.M.
SEQRA DETERMINATION:
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Howard Pinsley stated that based upon the information provided by the applicant in Part I of the SEQR Full
Environmental Assessment Form, and analysis of the information provided and presented in Part II of the SEQR Full
Environmental Assessment Form, the project will not result in any large and important impacts and, therefore, is one
that will not have a significant adverse impact on the environment. Based on this, I move to make a SEQR negative
declaration for this action.
Bob Bristol seconded the motion.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Howard Pinsley, in favor; Mariesa Coppola, in favor; Dan Gaba, in favor; Bob Bristol, in favor;
Philip Klein, in favor; Tom L. Lewis, Vice Chairman, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated next the action the Board will consider the lot line adjustment the applicant has
indicated that the south of the subject property, there is a house which is infringing on the side yard setback of the
subject house. These people have very kindly offered to do a simple lot line adjustment which will enable three
properties to be in conformance with the Zoning Code.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there was anyone who would like to comment on this aspect of the
application.
None heard.
Philip Klein made a motion for a lot line adjustment between the Feldman and Moore properties for approximately
4 ½ feet to 5 feet by 80 feet in length.
Dan Gaba seconded the motion.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
CORRESPONDENCE RECEIVED BY THE BOARD:
Deborah Meyers, 113 Catherine Street wrote in support of this project.
VOTE:
Howard Pinsley, in favor; Mariesa Coppola, in favor; Dan Gaba, in favor; Bob Bristol, in favor;
Philip Klein, in favor; Tom L. Lewis, Vice Chairman, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated the last portion of this application entails the 2 lot subdivision request.
The two lots will be in conformance with the Zoning Code. The applicant has agreed to install street lights on
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Catherine Street and one on East Avenue. Street trees are already in existence on East Avenue and one additional
tree is proposed on Catherine Street. Part of the approval on the vacant lot is that the sidewalk is to be replaced.
Suzanne Moore, owner of the property in question. City trucks drove on it and caused the big divots in the sidewalk.
Will repair brick or concrete to acceptable standards. Owner will take care of repairs. Onus will be on the
developer of the newly created lot to complete the sidewalk in front of the newly created lot.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on the two lot subdivision.
None heard.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman closed the public hearing at 7:31 P.M.
Dan Gaba made a motion for the Moore two lot subdivision in the Urban Residential-2 District.
Mariessa Coppola seconded the motion.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Howard Pinsley, in favor; Mariesa Coppola, in favor; Dan Gaba, in favor; Bob Bristol, in favor;
Philip Klein, in favor; Tom L. Lewis, Vice Chairman, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
3. 13.070 MUNTER PROPOSED TWO-LOT SUBDIVISION, Grande Industrial Park, Duplainville Road, public
hearing for a two lot non-residential subdivision in the Industrial General District.
Applicant: Munter Land Holdings, LLC – John Munter
Agent: Matt Brobston, LA Group; Mike Ingersoll, LA Group
SEQRA:
Action appears to be Unlisted. SEQR Part I needs to be revised to reflect both the subdivision and the site plan
applications.
BACKGROUND:
Subject parcel was subject to a 2010 approved 3 lot subdivision that established 2 lots (16.34 acres CDTA owned,
and 13.48 acres CDTA owned, and 13.4 acres Leonard Bus Facility site) north of extended Duplainville Road, and
lot (54.81 acres) subject of current application.
Emergency access to site and west side of Grande Industrial Park. Access to Industrial Park currently limited to
Cady Hill Boulevard. With industrial chemicals, operations, and ability to reach facilities in emergency, and
evacuation, limited access has become a question. Secondary means of access to park, especially on west side
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has been requested by Grande Industrial Safety Committee.
Emergency access to Adams Road via extension from Quad Graphics is currently proposed. Letter received by the
Board from Quad Graphics noting their agreement to allow for emergency access. Emergency access only.
Access to proposed FMC parcel from Duplainville Road proposed via a shared access easement on remaining
portion of parcel. Access to future development on remaining parcel typically discussed by the Planning Board to
ensure safe, orderly development, access management, and extension of utilities. The rail line access was proposed
to be extended westward. Ensuring open access to the rail line without any one party controlling access has been
the policy to date, important to all current and future users of the rail line. SEDC currently owns the property on
which the rail line is located to the east. SEDC provided a letter dated 10/31/13 noting their agreement to accept
70 foot wide property along the proposed 5 acre parcel to allow for expansion of rail service to the site.
Mr. Brobston provided a visual presentation to the Board noting an updated current plan showing 3 parcels to be
created as well as including information requested by the Board. Information requested includes an easement
by Quad Graphics for the access road. Layout and details for emergency access dry. Memo regarding sight
distance. Draft easement . Revised EAF subdivision action. Updated engineer report to support water. Water
connection agreement. Revised subdivision plan addressing for the parcel being created. Provided Material
Safety Data Sheets.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there were any questions or comments from the Board.
Philip Klein questioned who would maintain the road.
Mr. Brobston stated the road would be maintained by Quad Graphics.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
Paul Safford, 50 Adams Road stated he was not notified regarding this application. Concerned where the access
road will be built.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked where the idea for the emergency access road originated.
Mr. Brobston stated the exist road request came from the City Emergency Services and the Safety Committee
from the Industrial Park.
Mr. John Munter stated that there is a Safety Committee in the Industrial Park. Mr. Munter stated Kate Maynard,
Principal Planner in the City of Saratoga Springs attended a safety group meeting where representatives from
every company in the park are in attendance. These meetings are held monthly or quarterly to discuss whatever is
necessary to make the Industrial Park a safer place. They would welcome any residential neighbors. They are
a very open minded, safety minded people. Representatives from the Fire and Police Department also attend.
Kate Maynard, Principal Planner, City of Saratoga Springs stated the meeting she attended the group put forth
very strongly an additional means of emergency access and egress.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there was any other site which could be used for the emergency access
road.
Mr. Ingersoll, LA Group stated 3 plans were presented. This is the most logical area. Chief Williams and Chief Shaw
both stated a one lane road would be fine.
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Discussion ensued regarding the placement of the road, the possibility of additional landscaping. Also
the type of gate proposed and heavy duty asphalt for the roadway per City standards.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there were any further questions or comments from the Board.
None heard.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated the chair will review the results of gates, landscaping and gate placement
completed. Also the chair would like to review the rail line access.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated the public hearing will remain open. SEQRA needs to be reviewed both Part I
and Part 2 of the long EAF. We will now hear the next application for the Industrial Park.
4. 13. 062 PROJECT PURESOURSE, Grande Industrial Park, Duplainville Road, site plan for a peroxide
manufacturing facility in the Industrial-General District.
Applicant: FMC – Stephanie Montauge, Business Manager; Tim Markiewicz, Engineering Associate
Agent: Mike Ingersoll, LA Group
SEQRA:
Action appears to be Unlisted. SEQR Part 1 needs to be revised to reflect both the subdivision and site plan
applications.
Mr. Ingersoll stated this project was sent to Chazen for external review. The applicant will be utilizing ¼ of a mile of
rail line. This is an International Company which is coming to the Saratoga Industrial Park due to the Luther Forest
Technology Park.
Ms. Montauge, Business Manager for Hydrogen Peroxide, FMC Global Peroxigins Division. FMC headquarters is
located in Philadelphia. I have been a Chemical Engineer for over 12 years. Ms. Montauge provided an overview of
site operation, handling of hydrogen peroxide, and distribution. This is a clean safe industry. We manufacture
hydrogen peroxide. Used in all sources of applications. Very versatile chemistry, clean safe chemistry. It is used in
semi-conductor chips, in multiple applications. FMC has facilities around the world. Hydrogen Peroxide has no odor,
no hazardous waste, no emissions, no large equipment, very minimal noise. We will not be manufacturing at this
location. We will doing all the manufacturing in our plant in Texas. It will be shipped here to be purified and diluted.
It is a much safer process. Safety is of the utmost importance. Ms. Montauge provided a visual presentation
of the company and how it will function. This project has a 12 month construction envelope. This is a high tech
area. There is a very compelling argument to be outsourcing locally, and take advantage of the business which is
being done here. We will create jobs and make a substantial impact on this area and will be very involved in our
community here. Ms. Montauge explained the functionality of the site and project narrative. Rail cars will be used to
transport to this site from Texas. The hydrogen peroxide will be purified here in Saratoga using city water which will
be filtered. Ms. Montauge stated there will be approximately 10 employees. This is a 24 hour operation. A fence
will be around the entire property. It will be a secure site. We will have a substantial amount of trailers parked on this
site as well. Small tank farm outside the facility.
Mr. Ingersoll stated it is a functional site. The items which were of concern by the Board, we have addressed. We
have revised the SWPPP plan which was the bulk of the comments from Chazen. Revised EAF as requested.
MSDS sheets were submitted. Response letters forwarded to the Board. Project narratives were submitted. This is
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not a complicated site plan. There is parking for 12 cars with a potential for additional spaces if necessary. Trailers
will be filled inside the plant, and taken back out to the parking lot for continual testing. There will be approximately
10 employees. This is a 24 hour operation. A fence will surround the entire property. It will be a secure site. We will
have a significant number of trailers parked on this site as well, while being tested prior to shipping to the customer.
If the product does not meet company standards it will be reshipped back to Texas for disposal. Water service with
hydrant will come off the main. Sewer pump station close by. Landscaping plan was discussed with a proposal of
generic replanting and add a stipend in the letter of credit to assure proper landscaping after construction. We think
this a well thought out project. We did want to present this application to the Board tonight.
Howard Pinsley questioned if hydrogen peroxide is an accelerant and when it comes in contact with a fire it
accelerates it. Could you please further explain the process.
Ms. Montauge stated hydrogen peroxide is an oxidizer.
Mr. Markiewicz stated the hydrogen peroxide will travel by rail to the site. It will be off loaded on top. We plug into
the top of the rail car and pump the contents into the tank farm which consists of five tanks throughout the building.
Mr. Markiewicz explained the process stated there is no heat in the process, more of a cooling down process.
The building is metal and is sprinklered building.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman questioned if the applicants had been in touch with the Saratoga County Sewer
District.
Mr. Ingersoll stated they did meet with the Saratoga County Sewer District and they are waiting for city pump curb
data. They are waiting for information and concerns regarding too much hydrogen peroxide levels being dispersed
into the system.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there were any further questions or comments from the Board.
Phil Klein stated he spoke with the head engineer of Saratoga County and he only had good things to say about the
project and applicants. Mr. Klein stated possible concerns by neighbors if there is a rupture and the hydrogen
peroxide escapes and the gas is emitted.
Ms. Montauge stated hydrogen peroxide decomposes into oxygen and water. There are no airborne or toxic
concerns. Any gas which escapes will be oxygen. If any hydrogen peroxide is to spill more water should be placed
on it. It is often times used as a decontaminate.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman opened the public hearing at 8:45 P.M.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there are any questions or comments from the audience.
Paul Saffron, 50 Adams Road, Saratoga Springs. Questioned the noise to be emitted, aside from the rail and the
trucks which currently exists. Also concern regarding sidewalks which is required in a subdivision.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated subdivision rules do not apply in an Industrial Park.
Tom L. Lewis, Vice Chairman stated he suggests to defer voting on this application in order to give additional
neighbors a chance to speak. However this does not preclude us from reviewing SEQRA.
Mr. Ingersoll stated aside from the trucks and rail which already exists, there is a generator in case of power failure.
No outside processing or air handling units.
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Mr. Markiewicz stated there are 12 pumps in all, 11 inside the building, one small pump outside to off load the rail
car. One air handling unit for the laboratory and office. Similar to what you would have in a house. The third
mechanical unit is a chiller unit, 35 ton which is outside the building. All three mechanical equipment is facing the
Duplainville Road side. The large unit does have sound attenuation. The other equipment is more like that used
in home construction.
Kate Maynard, Principal Planner stated that confirmation of noticing of the neighbors will be reviewed in terms of
who was noticed. The applicant is responsible for noticing utilizing the list obtained from the Assessor's Office, which
are all those properties within 250 feet. We request a certificate of mailing which the Post Office does provide noting
that all letters have been mailed. The Board may want to consider FMC providing to the Board documentation of
their safety record. Information regarding like facilities and provide that information to the Board.
Kate Maynard, Principal Planner questioned the type of lighting to be used.
Mr. Ingersoll stated all LED fixtures will be used.
Kate Maynard, Principal Planner stated the City does require a submission of the complete streets checklist.
Keeping vegetation as well as buffering, and the retaining trees which exist on the property. Additional landscaping
could be necessary.
DISCLOSURE:
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated he would like to disclose that he is on the Luther Forest Technology Board of
Directors. This has nothing to do with Global Foundry. I have no financial interest in the Luther Forest Technology
Park or this current application before us.
SEQRA:
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated the Board will attempt to review SEQRA. Since this application was submitted
prior to the new forms inception, we will review this application using the old SEQRA form.
SEQR DECISION:
Howard Pinsley stated that based upon the information provided by the applicant in Part I of the SEQR Full
Environmental Assessment Form, and analysis of the information provided and presented in Part II of the SEQR Full
Environmental Assessment Form, the project will not result in any large and important impacts and, therefore, is one
that will not have a significant adverse impact on the environment. Based on this, I move to make a SEQR negative
declaration for this action.
Tom L. Lewis, Vice Chairman seconded the motion.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Howard Pinsley, in favor; Mariesa Coppola, in favor; Philip Klein, in favor; Bob Bristol, in favor;
Dan Gaba, in favor; Tom L. Lewis, Vice Chairman, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
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Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated he is in agreement with Tom L. Lewis, Vice Chairman that we can move on
subdivision and discuss that. I would suggest that for the purposes of site plan we leave that application open.
This will give the neighbors a chance to speak. Happy to see the Safety Committee Program which exists at the
Industrial Park. We will leave the site plan open until our meeting in January.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman closed the public hearing for the subdivision only at 9:12 P.M. We will leave the
public hearing open for site plan.
Tom L. Lewis, Vice Chairman made a motion for a two lot subdivision.
Philip Klein seconded the motion.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated we do have some conditions for the subdivision. We spoke about further
buffering the access road out to Adams Road if the Board should see a need for it. The applicant will work with the
City regarding the actual placement of the access road. Fire hydrants and water and sewer lines. The access road
should be staked out to the chairs approval. The technical aspects of the applications will be done to the City
Engineers specifications as well as the buffering on the road. The easement to be to the satisfaction of the City
Attorney. Two locked gates and Quad Graphics will be responsible for maintenance of the access road year on a
year around basis.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Howard Pinsley, in favor; Mariesa Coppola, in favor; Philip Klein, in favor; Bob Bristol, in favor;
Dan Gaba, in favor; Tom L. Lewis, Vice Chairman, in favor; Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
Board recessed at 9:17 P.M.
Board reconvened at 9:32 P.M.
5. 13.032 ELLSWORTH MIXED USE BUILDING, 120 Division Street, site plan review of mixed use building
featuring residential and commercial space in the Division Street Planned Unit Development District.
Applicant: EB Alliance – Peter Belmonte, Steve Ethier
Agent: Brett Steenburgh
DISCLOSURES:
Tom L. Lewis, Vice Chairman
SEQRA:
Action appears to be a Type I unlisted action that is occurring wholly or partially within or substantially contiguous
to any historic building, structure, facility, site or involved agencies identified with this action.
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Revised SEQR Part 1 contains errors and needs to be revised.
BACKGROUND:
Location of the site is highly visible, transitional – adjacent to Franklin Square and National Historic Registry
District; Allerdice, Dehn's commercial uses, and surrounded by predominantly residential area. With 2 blocks
of City recreation fields and Division Street Elementary School. Adjacent zoning districts include UR-2; UR-3;
UR-4; T-5 and T-6 nearby.
Site is within the Division Street PUD – an expansive PUD that includes Allerdice, Dehn's Flowers, Recreation Fields,
and Division Street Elementary School. PUD is generally for commercial/industrial uses and transitional housing.
Interpretation by standing Zoning Officer made that the project is consistent with the PUD with the inclusion of
commercial space within the site plan. Under provisions of the PUD specifically, and PUD section of the Code,
to be reviewed by Planning Board for subdivision review.
Site plan consisting of mixed use retail, office and 96 residential units approved by Planning Board on December 8,
2010. Site plan approval expired December 8, 2011. Project last seen for site plan review on June 12, 2013.
Project has changed from that time with building composition, addition of property at corner of Cherry Street and
Marvin Alley, and DRC opinion being issued on September 9, 2013.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman reviewed question of burying the overhead power lines. All parties concerned as well
as Kate Maynard, Principal Planner and Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman met with National Grid and revealed that all
homes serviced by these lines would need to have new services installed and new circuit breaker panels installed in
their homes in order to accomplish this.
Mr. Belmonte stated since their last appearance before the Planning Board the applicants were able to appear before
the Design Review Commission. We were welcomed with open arms and left the meeting with a great deal of praise
and enthusiasm for this project. The DRC felt the mass and scale was appropriate for the neighborhood. Volume of
details and design were much in keeping with the area. Mr. Belmonte provided the Board with a presentation of the
project which was shown to the DRC. This project will be named City Square. It will entail 27 town homes and 14
apartments. 41 units in total. It will capture the character and nuances of the City of Saratoga. This is located at the
south side of Division Street between Walworth Street and Marvin Alley within the Division Street Planned Unit
Development. Nothing will be fronting on Cherry Street. We are building this project with architecture, durable
structures, and materials. Historic colors will be used for choices in siding. All garages will have storage with
habitable above the garage which is strictly for the families use, not to be rented out and will house two vehicles.
Mr. Belmonte stated we have three major area to discuss, the power poles and National Grid, Marvin Alley as well as
parking. We will begin with Marvin Alley. Originally we discussed this to be a one way street with parking on one
side. The city traffic engineer has come up with a plan. Marvin alley will go from north to south, from Division to
Cherry Street. Taking the area between Division Street and the street within our neighborhood making it two way.
Continuing down the remaining portion of Marvin Alley and making that a one way street. This is a great idea. It is
taking where the bulk of the traffic will be eliminating the confusion of going down the alley the wrong way. We will
meet the City requirement by providing 18 feet along Marvin Alley to the City and then we will create the two way
street. We are proposing parking in front of the four residential units.
Kate Maynard, Principal Planner stated Mr. Mastropietro, 63 Franklin Street wrote a letter of support of this project.
Mr. Belmonte stated we will now review National Grid and the power lines. We did have an opportunity to meet with
National Grid. Kate Maynard, Principal Planner, Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman of the Planning Board, Steve Ethier,
partner in the project and myself. They informed us that any homes along the Division Street must be disconnected
from the service and before they can be reconnected they must be inspected and comply with the new codes and if
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not it must be retrofitted. Majority of these homes are older homes. The cost between $8,000 - $20,000 to bring up
to code. When lines go underground service comes up above ground. Ballard's are not customary in a residential
area. The cost is exorbitant.
Philip Klein questioned cleaning up the abundance of wires.
Mr. Belmonte stated there are multiple utilities on the poles. We did evaluate these wires. They are 16 feet and
above. National Grid stated they could declutter the lines somewhat. The other providers are not so agreeable. We
are talking about Time Warner, Verizon Wireless and fiber optic cables. There are no excess lines. All are live wires.
Kate Maynard, Principal Planner stated things are before you to consider. Although this is not a simple undertaking,
this project is opportunity to relocate utilities in concert with this project. If it is not done now with this project it is not
likely that it would take place in the future.
Discussion ensued among the Board regarding the burying of power lines underground.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated he does not feel the benefit considering the cost involved.
It was the consensus of the Board not to pursue the burying of the power lines along Division Street.
Mr. Belmonte stated the third issue or item is parking. Since this is a PUD there are no parking requirements.
We have a project based on conventional residential and commercial and condo's being multi-use. Traditional
residential should follow traditional residential zoning. Two parking spaces for each residential unit. Commercial
parking spaces the parking requirement for general commercial is one per 300 square feet. Take the residential out.
Look at 8 condo or apartment units on the southwest corner at 1.5 will need 12 parking spaces. On the northwest
corner 6 units at 1.5 will need 9 parking spaces. 4,000 square foot of commercial requires 13 parking spaces. The
total is 34 parking spaces. 22 parking spaces exist within the site, immediately adjacent that we are creating 15 on
Walworth, Cherry and Division Street, for a total of 37. In the City's regulation there is a code due to shared parking
one could ask for 30% reduction in parking spaces.
Discussion ensued regarding parking and available parking spaces.
It was the consensus of the Board that the proposed parking spaces are adequate for the use of the property.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated this project has moved in the right direction. The project has improved.
More mixed use that we originally saw. We will take no action tonight.
Mr. Belmonte stated there is one more item to discuss. We are proposing a three story building on the corner.
Introducing some definition to the building on the corner. A visual presentation was provided to the Board.
Kate Maynard, Principal Planner stated the proposed 3 story building has not been reviewed by the DRC.
Mr. Belmonte stated the difference between this building and the one the DRC reviewed is a matter of several feet.
We have lowered this building 9 feet and increased the height 5 feet so it is actually 4 feet higher. We have softened
the roof slope to minimize the height increase.
Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman stated the applicant should return to the DRC for their input on this new building.
Mr. Belmonte stated they will return to the DRC and then return to the Planning Board.
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MOTION TO ADJOURN:
There being no further business to discuss Clifford Van Wagner, Chairman adjourned the meeting at 10:04 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Diane M. Buzanowski
Recording Secretary
Approved: 1/22/14
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Agenda
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS CLIFFORD VAN WAGNER, Chair
TOM L. LEWIS, vice chair
PHILIP W. KLEIN
P LANNING B OARD DAN GABA
HOWARD PINSLEY
City Hall - 474 Broadway MARIESA COPPOLA
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 ROBERT F. BRISTOL
Tel: 518-587-3550 fax: 518-580-9480
www.saratoga-springs.org
Planning Board Meeting – December 11. 2013
City Council Room – 7:00 PM
Draft Agenda
Workshop: Monday, December 9, 2013 at 5pm in the City Council Room
Salute to Flag
A. Applications under Consideration:
1. 13.058 Moore Subdivision, 120 Catherine Street, public hearing for a two-lot subdivision in the
Urban Residential-2 District.
2. 13.070 Feldman/ Moore lot line adjustment, 120 Catherine Street and East Avenue, lot line
adjustment.
3. 13.060 Munter proposed two-lot subdivision, Grande Industrial Park, Duplainville Road, public hearing
for a two-lot non-residential subdivision in the Industrial General District.
4. 13.062 Project PUREsource, Grande Industrial Park, Duplainville Road, site plan for a peroxide
manufacturing facility in the Industrial-General District.
5. 13.032 Ellsworth Mixed Use Building, 120 Division Street, site plan review of mixed use building
featuring residential and commercial space in the Division Street Planned Unit Development District.
B. Approval of Minutes: November 26, 2013 Planning Board meeting.
Next meeting: Wednesday January 8, 2013 (w/Monday January 6, 2013 caravan & workshop)
Note: This agenda is subject to change. To verify the actual agenda prior to the meeting, please contact the
Planning Office at 587-3550 extension 2533 or the City of Saratoga Springs Website at www.saratoga-springs.org
Revised 12/6/2013 5:32 PM
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