Planning Board
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · November 10, 2016
Minutes
PLANNING BOARD
MINUTES (FINAL)
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 10, 2016
7:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL ROOM
CALL TO ORDER: Mark Torpey, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 7:01 P.M.
SALUTE TO THE FLAG:
PRESENT: Mark Torpey, Chairman; Bob Bristol, Vice Chairman; Tom L. Lewis; Clifford Van Wagner;
Amy Durland, alternate; Ruth Horton, alternate
LATE ARRIVAL: Jamin Totino arrived at 7:05 P.M.
ABSENT: Howard Pinsley, Janet Casey
STAFF: Kate Maynard, Principal Planner, City of Saratoga Springs
Justin Grassi, Attorney for the Land Use Boards
ANNOUNCEMENT OF RECORDING OF PROCEEDING:
The proceedings of this meeting are being recorded for the benefit of the secretary. Because the minutes are not a
verbatim record of the proceedings, the minutes are not a word-for-word transcript of the recording.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF ADJOURNED PROJECTS:
ADJOURNED PENDING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
1.15.049 LANDS OF STONE, 68 Weibel Avenue, sketch plan review of office, retail, and multi-family residential in
the Transect-4 Urban Neighborhood (T-4) District.
2.16.025 MENDENHALL SUBDIVISION, 101 Old Schuylerville Road, 4-lot preliminary conservation
subdivision within the Rural Residential (RR) District.
12.023.4 CONGRESS PLAZA EMBASSY SUITES, 46 Congress Street, proposed site plan modification to
eliminate vehicular access from South Federal Street in a Transect-5 Neighborhood Center (T-5) District.
16.038.1 PET LODGE, SEQRA COORDINATED REVIEW OF AN ANIMAL KENNEL USE, Route 9,
SEQRA Coordinated Review in Tourist Business (TRB) and Rural Residential (RR) Districts.
COMMENTS FROM THE CHAIR:
UPCOMING PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS/AGENDA WORKSHOPS:
Planning Board Caravan, Monday, November 21, 2016 at 4:00 P.M.
Planning Board Workshop, Monday, November 21, 2016 at 5:00 P.M.
Planning Board Meeting, Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 7:00 P.M.
PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR:
None heard.
A. APPLICATIONS UNDER CONSIDERATION:
1.15.004. OAKRIDGE PHASE 2 SUBDIVISION, MEADOWBROOK RD, Subdivision extension within the SR-1District.
Applicant: Jeff Snyder, Oak Ridge LLC
Agent: Dave Carr, LA Group
SEQRA:
No further SEQRA action is required with proposed extension.
BACKGROUND:
Subdivision approved by the Planning Board on November 5, 2015. Latest approval for subdivision extension expires on
November 5, 2016. Application for extension was submitted prior to this date preserving approval. Requested new
extension to February 5, 2017. After initial approval time period, 90 day extension may be considered by the Planning
Board.
Mr. Carr notes that the applicant is requesting an additional 90 day extension to complete the project, bringing us to
February 5, 2017. Additional time is need for project for Letter of Credit to be issued, details of the conservation
easement finalized with PLAN and City prior to final signature and filing of plans.
Justin Grassi, Attorney for the Land Use Boards stated the Planning Board discussed the recreation fees wishing to
earmark some of those fees for certain areas. Ultimately, we determined it was the City Council’s purview to determine
this. The Planning Board can make a recommendation only.
Mr. Carr stated the applicant has decided to bear the cost of completion leaving the recreation fees as is. The additional
cost of the PLAN will be the applicants cost to bear.
NOTE:
Jamin Totino arrived at 7:05 P.M.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there were any further questions or comments from the Board.
Amy Durland, alternate questioned if the Planning Board reviewed the conservation easement.
Kate Maynard, Principal Planner noted that the final condition noted that the conservation easement would be left to the
approval of the City Attorney and staff.
Clifford Van Wagner made a motion in the matter of the Oak Ridge Phase 2 Subdivision Extension, Meadowbrook Road
that the application for 90 day extension be approved.
Ruth Horton, alternate seconded the motion.
VOTE:
Clifford Van Wagner, in favor; Jamin Totino, abstained; Bob Bristol, Vice Chairman, in favor; Ruth Horton, alternate, in
favor; Tom L. Lewis, in favor; Mark Torpey, Chairman, in favor; Amy Durland, alternate, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0-1
2.16.027 WEST AVENUE APARTMENTS, 246 West Avenue, Special Use Permit for construction of 16 multi-family
residential units within the Transect-4 Urban Neighborhood (T-4) District.
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SEQRA:
SEQRA negative declaration issued on May 22, 2008 was reaffirmed for proposed project on December 7, 2011, then on
January 22, 2014.
BACKGROUND:
Special Use Permit for a total of 16 multi-family residential units was approved by the Planning Board on December 7,
2011. Approval is valid for 18 months. Applicant did not request an extension prior to the expiration of site plan
approval. Project approved on January 22, 2014. Applicant allowed approval to lapse again. Potential developer of
project has changed. Project currently proposes reduction to a single structure, but retaining proposed 16 units.
Previously two structures and 16 units
3.16.028 WEST AVENUE APARTMENTS, 246 West Avenue, Site Plan for construction of 16 multi-family residential
units within the Transect-4 (T-4) District.
SEQRA:
SEQRA negative declaration issued on May 22, 2008 was reaffirmed for proposed project on December 7, 2011, then on
January 22, 2014.
BACKGROUND:
Site Plan for 2 buildings containing a total of 16 residential units was approved by the Planning Board on February 22,
2012. Approval is valid for 18 months. Applicant did not request an extension prior to the expiration of site plan
approval. Project approved on January 22, 2014. Applicant allowed the approval to lapse again. The project currently
proposes a reduction to a single structure still with 16 units. Previously two structures and 16 units.
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated this project has been through several iterations and several prior approvals have lapsed.
This project is now with a new developer and we will view the updated plans and changes. The Board has several
concerns regarding this project one of which is the neighbors and the view shed issues. Also the density issue was
raised concerning its location on West Avenue. We did request an Advisory Opinion from the DRC concerning SEQRA
issues, they concentrated on Mass and Scale issues and did not really get into the community character issues which we
were concerned with.
Kate Maynard, Principal Planner stated received just today was the Advisory Opinion from the DRC. The Commission
issued a favorable Advisory Opinion Mass and scale appears appropriate for what is expected to be seen along West
Avenue in the future. Agrarian scheme of design is heading the right direction. As there will be additional review as
project proceeds through DRC, the Commission is confident the project will continue to improve design in final details.
This was a unanimous favorable advisory opinion.
Applicant: John Luke Hodorowski, John Paul Builders, LLC
Agent: John Lapper, Attorney; Matt Brobston, LA Group
Mr. Lapper stated we are appearing before the Planning Board for the third time to receive approval for this project.
Mr. Hodorowski is ready to build this project; he is under contract and is awaiting approvals. We have appeared before
the DRC on three occasions with changes before they were satisfied with the project. We will review that. In general
they wanted the project to return to the more agrarian look which was previously approved. They thought initially the
scheme of the project was too New England coastal and nautical, and requested that be changed. Roof lines and
balconies to be functional rather than just visual. Change what looked like barn doors on the side of the parking lot.
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The Planning Board wanted the parking to be hidden. As a compromise we added louvers to the top of the doors
to provide light and air but it still accomplishes hiding the parking but maintains the agregarian look. We did not go back
to the silo which did not work with the developers plan. It terms of how this fits in with the neighborhood we are confident
it fits in with the YMCA, the small commercial motel next to us on the road and the residential homes in the rear with the
addition of fencing and buffering in that area.
Matt Brobston, LA Group stated he will review some of the changes which were made at our last appearance before the
Planning Board back in September 8th. There were some modifications done to the site plan and the building. The
building as per the DRC recommendations had the areas with the balconies become more functional. Previously, there
was more straight lines on the building. There was little undulation in the roof lines. They wanted the building to return
to the agregarian look previously presented. We returned to the project as it was previously presented minus the
turret in the rear. We addressed these five areas. To shield the parking underneath the first floor. It appears more of a
barn door than a flat stone wall which was previously shown. The plan basically has not changed from what was
originally presented and approved many years ago. The basic design is the same as pertains to the parking entrance
and exit. The outbuilding is now gone. The area to the rear will be landscaped heavily to provide additional screening.
The neighbor, Mr. Hovey is here this evening. We did meet with him, and spoke concerning the trees on his property
and the sitting of the trees in this area. Additional fencing was requested by the neighbor and Mr. Hodorowski is
amenable to that. There will be one curb cut. A small civic space was included in the plan with benches, a bike rack and
interpretive signage. Discussion was held previously concerning the additional connection with the Pitney Farm trail
across the road. The applicant has agreed to that either now or in the future as part of this project. Water infrastructure
a 12” water main will be extended from Congress along West Avenue to the front of this project as well as providing
stubs to the existing houses we pass. We will allow a larger stub for development at Pitney. This project is in the T-4
zone extending to the north encompassing the motel, the residential properties and neighborhoods to our rear. This is
the first building in this zone on this side which is being developed. Similar in density to what you might expect an
apartment building to be in terms of bedrooms, not necessarily units. Mr. Brobston reviewed the current density in that
neighborhood, and how it relates to this project noting its close proximity to the CRN district which it abuts. This is a
smaller project than proposed earlier, adding to the diversity of the neighborhood which is a goal in the T zone.
John Luke Hodorowski, developer stated average square footage is approximately 900 square feet averaged out.
Similar projects have been constructed in Schenectady and Troy and we found the one bedroom model by far is the
most popular. Rents in this building are around $1,800 to $2,000 per month. Membership to the YMCA will be an
amenity to this building. A 2,000 square foot lobby on the first floor will include elevators, mailroom and storage units for
the apartments. The parking will now be a fully enclosed mechanically vented parking area.
Amy Durland, alternate questioned the applicant if porous pavement will be used as previously noted in the earlier plans.
Also questioned the planting of street trees and how it complies with the regulations of the Transect zone.
Mr. Brobston, LA Group stated the applicant will now be using asphalt maintaining proper drainage on the site. The
street plantings will need to accommodate overhead power lines. Mr. Brobston reviewed the areas where the trees will
be planted and noted additional tree plantings on the site.
Mark Torpey, Chairman questioned if there was any comments from Mark Benaquista.
Kate Maynard, Principal Planner stated Mr. Benaquista referred to the traffic study and the work done on the West
Avenue corridor work performed. He referred to the capacity being appropriate to the size of the project. He did not put
forth any additional issues.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated the public hearing has been opened and remains open.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
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Dave Madden, 11 Gillman. My only concern is this puts additional pressure on the Gilman Avenue, Congress Street
section. We ask that the applicant keep in mind the additional noise and lighting issues. This will increase the density in
the neighborhood.
Mr. Hodorowski explained the venting system of the garage regarding possible noise pollution. Also the sitting of the
balconies was reviewed. There are no exits to the rear of the property near the residential neighbors. Lighting will be
installed to prevent light pollution and intrusion on the neighbors.
Clifford Van Wagner questioned the lighting in the parking areas.
Mr. Brobston stated there are two 15 foot lights proposed for the parking area, down facing box lights with sharp cutoffs.
No light spillage to the adjacent properties. There are also fencing and screening. Shielding on the lights can also be
installed if lighting is still an issue once the project is completed.
Clifford Van Wagner raised the issue of the trash hauler hours for trash removal from the dumpster.
Mr. Hodorowski stated we want to be good neighbors. We do not hire out management of our properties. We will have
our people on site if there is an issue.
Discussion ensued among the Board concerning 9:00 AM pickup for trash.
Adrienne Hovey, reviewed the current plan and had a concern regarding lighting as well as noise.
Clifford Van Wagner questioned if the applicant would be willing to set aside some monies for additional buffering if once
this project is complete the buffering is not sufficient.
Mr. Hodorowski stated he is agreeable to that.
Jamin Totino stated what he is concerned about is increasing the community space in the front of the building, including
the addition of a bike rack.
Mr. Brobston stated what is portrayed is not accurately depicted. There is more to the landscaping than on the plans.
Discussion ensued concerning finalizing the plan and finishing off the letter of credit including the sufficiency of the
landscaping and buffering plan.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there are any further comments from the audience.
None heard.
Mark Torpey, Chairman closed the public hearing at 7:59 P.M.
SEQRA:
Bob Bristol, Vice Chairman made a motion to reaffirm the previously approved SEQRA Negative Declaration for this
project.
Tom L. Lewis seconded the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
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VOTE:
Clifford Van Wagner, in favor; Jamin Totino, in favor; Bob Bristol, Vice Chairman, in favor; Ruth Horton, alternate, in
favor; Tom L. Lewis, in favor; Mark Torpey, Chairman, in favor; Amy Durland, alternate, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there were any further questions or comments from the Board.
None heard.
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated the Board will now move on the Special Use Permit with the only condition being garbage
pickup to be scheduled after 9:00 am.
Jamin Totino made a motion in the matter of the West Avenue Apartments, 246 West Avenue that the application for a
Special Use Permit be approved with the condition as presented by the Chair.
Ruth Horton, alternate seconded the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Clifford Van Wagner, in favor; Jamin Totino, in favor; Bob Bristol, Vice Chairman, in favor; Ruth Horton, alternate, in
favor; Tom L. Lewis, in favor; Mark Torpey, Chairman, in favor; Amy Durland, alternate, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated the Board will now move on the Site Plan approval. We spoke about the following
conditions: the lengthening of the stockade fence along the eastern side of the property to be extended further towards
the YMCA; tree screening both on the eastern side of the property, and relative to the neighbors to the north; $2,000 in
escrow for additional screening if necessary; 1 curb cut; Greenbelt trail connections with ramping, curb cut, striping and
signage at a time to be determined by the City DPS; water main extension; mechanical garage venting; and appropriate
lighting fixtures.
Jamin Totino made a motion in the matter of the West Avenue Apartments, 246 West Avenue that the application for a
Site Plan Approval with the conditions as presented by the Chair.
Ruth Horton, alternate seconded the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Clifford Van Wagner, in favor; Jamin Totino, in favor; Bob Bristol, Vice Chairman, in favor; Ruth Horton, alternate, in
favor; Tom L. Lewis, in favor; Mark Torpey, Chairman, in favor; Amy Durland, alternate, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
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8:08 P.M. the Board recessed.
8:13 P.M. the Board reconvened.
04.029.1 ICE HOUSE SITE PLAN MODIFICATION, 70 and 72 Putnam Street, site plan modification review
in a Transect-6 Urban Core (T-6) District.
BACKGROUND:
Tent is proposed as a permanent structure. This would allow for it to remain standing longer than temporary structure
time requirements. ZBA has approved variances from required two story requirement and minimum frontage: build out
80% required 33.2% approved. DRC approved structure for historic review. A requirement the Planning Board placed
on the applicant was the removal of the tent. It was a violation and remained up longer than a temporary structure. The
tent has been removed.
SEQRA:
Action appears to be a Type II action, no further review is required.
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated we have met with the applicant’s agent several times. We have a motion drafted with
several conditions.
Kate Maynard, Principal Planner stated information was submitted by the applicant’s agent that she is unable to attend
the meeting this evening. She did note in the email the applicant’s acceptance of the 2 year time frame for the
temporary tent, and their acceptance of replacing the existing street tree, as well as the planting of the new tree along
the frontage of the site especially on the library side. Cliff and I visited the site and we were able to see the streetscape.
It appears there could be room for a street tree at the location near the library.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there was any further questions or comments from the Board.
None heard.
Clifford Van Wagner made a motion in the matter of the Ice House Site Plan Modification, 70 and 72 Putnam Street that
the application for a temporary tent be approved with the following conditions: the temporary tent will be allowed to be in
place for a period of 2 years commencing with the Chairs signature on the approved modified site plan, the 2 year term is
not renewable, one additional small species street tree from the City’s approved list to be planted at a point equally
distant between the right gate post and the southern end of the fence, the existing street tree will remain.
Jamin Totino seconded the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Clifford Van Wagner, in favor; Jamin Totino, in favor; Bob Bristol, Vice Chairman, in favor; Ruth Horton, alternate, in
favor; Tom L. Lewis, in favor; Mark Torpey, Chairman, in favor; Amy Durland, alternate, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
5.16.034 INCLUSIONARY HOUSING PROPOSED ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT, Request for Advisory Opinion from
the City Council.
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RECUSAL:
Amy Durland, alternate, recused herself from this application after a discussion with Planning Board counsel Justin
Grassi, due to her prior involvement with this plan and exited the meeting at 8:20 P.M.
SEQRA:
Action appears to be Unlisted. Short form Part I provided.
BACKGROUND:
In February 2005, the Inclusionary Zoning Ordinance Development (IZOD) Committee drafted an ordinance providing for
affordable housing. The Committee was formed by Mayor Lenz in 2005 and consisted of members: Monte Franke,
Chair; Sonny Bonacio, Amy Durland, Matt Gabryshak, Vilma Heramia. The Committee presented the draft text
amendment to the City Council on April 6, 2006, following 30 meetings and 14 months of work. The proposed ordinance
was not adopted at that time. This proposed amendment is essentially identical to that effort. The City Council
determined that the petition had merit for review and forwarded for an advisory opinion on August 16, 2016.
The ordinance would require developers of housing developments of 10 or more units to set aside up to 20% of the
Units as affordable in sale or rental to households of modest income. Developers are given up to a 20% density bonus
or right to builod more units on the same site, to offset the cost of providing these affordable units. This ordinance takes
advantage of market forces and development capacity to produce affordable units that are inegrated into housing
throughout the community. There are no State or Federal subsidies or actions in this program. There are manageable
administrative costs to the City.
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated there is no presentation by the applicant. We have had a previous presentation and
information is on the web. Additional information requested has been received and reviewed. We have received a
response from the County Planning Board and they have provided their thoughts on this. We have received a letter from
the Saratoga Builders Association, so we have some feedback from them. We have some proposed new language for
2016 and also a red line version which was a 2006 version for comparison. Also, a Favorable Advisory Opinion from
2006 which the Planning Board provided for informative purposes was provided by Kate Maynard, Principal Planner, and
a number of documents Sustainable Saratoga provided in response to several questions posed by the Board in an
earlier meetings. We have received approval from the City Council for a 30 day extension in providing the Advisory
Opinion.
Discussion ensued among the Planning Board concerning the Advisory Opinion to the City Council.
Justin Grassi, Attorney for the Land Use Boards stated this Advisory Opinion is simply to provide information to the City
Council.
Jamin Totino questioned the correspondence from the County which felt that the application was incomplete and their
request for additional information.
Justin Grassi, Attorney for the Land Use Boards stated that would be a question for the City Council to determine. Our
only task is to provide an Advisory Opinion.
Discussion ensued among the Board concerning proceeding with the request from the City Council, and the request from
the County for additional information.
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Mark Torpey, Chairman stated again this is an Advisory Opinion to the City Council on the proposed zoning text
amendment. Our responsibility this evening is whether this is consistent with Zoning Ordinance and the Comprehensive
Plan.
Mark Torpey, Chairman referenced the 2015 Comp Plan Document and provided some guidance from this document as
to what this plan provides for discussion concerning the above referenced items.
Discussion ensued among the Board concerning the guiding principals outlined in the Comp Plan Document.
Clifford Van Wagner feels that this puts the onus on the developers.
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated the zoning ordinance portion of this provides the developer with the ability to opt out of
using the density bonus. It is completely voluntary on the part of the developer. With the proposal in front of us it is a
requirement, but the applicant has the ability to request a variance from the ZBA, to not have to comply or adhere with
that requirement. There is a pathway for exemption. The Planning Board has the ability to make a determination
whether a 10 or 20% bonus is even appropriate based upon the design, layout, the size and design. So there is some
flexibility that the Board is given to not adhere to 10 or 20% by definition. There is nothing in the City’s Comprehensive
Plan that puts the onus or responsibility onto the developer.
Discussion ensued among the Board concerning this portion of the zoning ordinance, the necessity of obtaining a use
variance, the difficulty in obtaining a use variance versus an area variance.
Justin Grassi, Attorney for the Land Use Board stated if you are speaking about a density requirement then yes it would
be quantitative area variance they would be seeking not a use variance.
Tom L. Lewis stated the intention behind this new code is to bring down the cost of housing. All a 20% density bonus
does is lower land cost and the big cost is in the actual construction. Therefore, developers will not build without a good
return on their investment. Residential is high risk and they are not going to do something which will reduce their profit
and as a consequence of that is if they are forced to go through various hoops as to whether they are going to get it or
not, if it reduces their profit then they will not build over 10 units and the consequence of that, is that it will actually raise
prices because if there are less units and demand remains the same the cost will go up. If the council passes this it will
have the opposite effect, this is just my opinion.
Clifford Van Wagner stated he believes this is contrary to the zoning code. He feels what is being proposed is usurping
the power of the Zoning Board of Appeals and makes this 100% contrary to the Zoning Code. They are the experts.
Jamin Totino stated he has the same issues concerning zoning as Cliff. He feels this is not consistent with the
Comprehensive Plan. The zoning portion is the part which troubles him. The setbacks and the heights are concerns.
Something which is consistent with the zoning ordinance will make it stronger, this makes it weaker. In order for a
project to be exempt from this plan they would need to appear before the Zoning Board for a waiver. Meanwhile we will
be in position to waive other zoning requirements. My other issue is pulling out a section of what is in the UDO and
dealing with it separately and out of context of the rest of the plan is bothersome. I see this as a floating PUD.
Bob Bristol stated he has made his opinion on this fairly clear. Jamin has added some real thought to the process.
City Council has really not done its homework on this project. It needs to test the economics; they have not tested any of
the cost benefit aspects. They have not developed a program that is viable for developers. They have to do some
proofing.
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated what is in the Zoning Ordinance now is the ability on a voluntary basis to provide for the
incentives, density bonuses for senior housing at 50%. The Planning Board has the ability to review and grant that
through our special use and site plan review process. Also currently existing in the code the Planning Board has the
ability for low and moderate income household’s affordable housing at 20% density bonus. None of those provisions
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have ever been tested or exercised to really understand the power of the density bonus. The plan proposed is trying to
flush that out. It is perfectly in line with the Zoning Ordinance. The proposal is putting for the same tools we currently
use.
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated he would also like to add some additional information to the Advisory Opinion to the City
Council. The Comprehensive Plan 2015 has in it a set of statistics in terms of what should be included as a starting
point. The Planning Board issued a Favorable Advisory Opinion back in 2006 on exactly the same plan as is presented
now.
Clifford Van Wagner questioned what this has to do with what is being requested now. It is a different City Council, and
a different Planning Board. This would be extraneous information.
Justin Grassi, Attorney to the Land Use Boards stated the Boards responsibility is to answer the two questions the City
Council has asked specifically. The code also provides we can add any additional information on the recommendation
that we wish.
Ruth Horton, alternate stated she would like to make a motion that the Planning Board issues an affirmative advisory
opinion noting that the proposal put forth by Sustainable Saratoga is consistent with the intent of the Comprehensive
Plan.
Mark Torpey, Chairman seconded the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Clifford Van Wagner, opposed; Jamin Totino, in favor; Bob Bristol, Vice Chairman, opposed; Ruth Horton, alternate, in
favor; Tom L. Lewis, opposed; Mark Torpey, Chairman, in favor;
MOTION FAILS: 3-3
Justin Grassi, Attorney for the Land Use Board stated the opinion can be forwarded to the City Council noting the split
vote or another motion can be presented.
Discussion ensued concerning the vote.
Clifford Van Wagner made a motion that the Planning Board issue a Negative Advisory Opinion to the City Council
regarding adding this text amendment to the code noting it is incompatible with the Comprehensive Plan and has not
been financially viable or tested. It is actually more restrictive to developers since that the intent of the proposal totally
ignores the bulk area requirements concerning the height and the Zoning Board of Appeals decisions will be rendered
not applicable and that the proposal takes the ZBA authority away and replaces it by waivers to the Planning Board
which is totally contrary to the zoning code and also contrary to the new UDO ordinance.
Tom L. Lewis seconded the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
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VOTE:
Clifford Van Wagner, in favor; Jamin Totino, opposed; Bob Bristol, Vice Chairman, in favor; Ruth Horton, alternate,
opposed; Tom L. Lewis, in favor; Mark Torpey, Chairman, opposed
MOTION FAILS: 3-3
Discussion ensued providing the City Council with information noting the split vote.
Tom L. Lewis made a motion that this Board was unable to reach 4 votes for an Advisory Opinion and the Board strongly
encourages the City Council to review the minutes and the webcast.
Jamin Totino seconded the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
Ruth Horton stated she feels we should be more specific in our opinion.
VOTE:
Clifford Van Wagner, in favor; Jamin Totino, in favor; Bob Bristol, Vice Chairman, in favor; Ruth Horton, alternate, in
favor; Tom L. Lewis, in favor; Mark Torpey, Chairman, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Approval of meeting minutes was deferred to the November 22, 2016 meeting.
MOTION TO ADJOURN:
There being no further business to discuss Mark Torpey, Chairman adjourned the meeting at 9:20 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Diane M. Buzanowski
Recording Secretary
APPROVED 11/22/16
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