Planning Board
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · June 8, 2017
Minutes
PLANNING BOARD
MINUTES (FINAL)
THURSDAY, JUNE 8, 2017
6:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL ROOM
CALL TO ORDER: Mark Torpey, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 6:00 P.M.
SALUTE TO THE FLAG:
PRESENT: Mark Torpey, Chairman; Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman; Bob Bristol; Ruth Horton, alternate;
Abigail Wolfson, alternate; Clifford Van Wagner; Todd Fabozzi
ABSENT: Janet Casey; Amy Durland
STAFF: Kate Maynard, Principal Planner, City of Saratoga Springs
Mark Schachner, Counsel for the Land Use Boards- exited the meeting at 7:00 P.M.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF RECORDING OF PROCEEDING:
The proceedings of this meeting are being recorded for the benefit of the secretary. Because the minutes are not a
verbatim record of the proceedings, the minutes are not a word-for-word transcript of the recording.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF ADJOURNED PROJECTS:
ADJOURNED PENDING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
1. 15.049 LANDS OF STONE, 68 Weibel Avenue, sketch plan review of office, retail, and multi-family residential in
the Transect-4 Urban Neighborhood (T-4) District.
2. 16.025 MENDENHALL SUBDIVISION, 101 Old Schuylerville Road, 4-lot preliminary conservation subdivision
within the Rural Residential (RR) District.
3. 16.040 WEST AVENUE MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT, 106-120 West Avenue, Special Use Permit for mixed-use
development within the T-5 Neighborhood Center (T-5) District.
4. 16.015.1 WEST AVENUE MIXED-USE SITE PLAN, 106-120 West Avenue, Site Plan Review for 4,100 square feet of
of retail, 36 multi-family units within the Transect- Neighborhood Center (T-5) District.
COMMENTS FROM THE CHAIR:
UPCOMING PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS/AGENDA WORKSHOPS:
Planning Board Caravan, Monday, June 19, 2017 at 4:00 P.M.
Planning Board Workshop, Monday, June 19, 2017 at 5:00 P.M.
Planning Board Meeting, Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 6:00 P.M.
PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR:
None heard.
A. APPLICATIONS UNDER CONSIDERATION:
1. 15.004.6 OAK RIDGE SUBDIVISION, 2 Meadowbrook Road, Extension of Subdivision Approval within
the Suburban Residential-1 (SR-1) District.
SEQRA:
No further SEQRA action is required with proposed extensions.
BACKGROUND:
Subdivision approved by the Planning Board on October 28, 2015. Latest approval for subdivision extension
expired May 5, 2016. Application for extension was submitted prior to this date, preserving approval.
Requested new extension to August 5, 2017.
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated the Board has received some additional information as it relates to revisions of the
management plan and the conservation easement.
Applicant: Jeff Snyder, land owner
Agent: Dave Carr, LA Group; Maria-Saratoga PLAN
Mr. Carr stated we are simply here this evening looking for an extension to August 5, 2017. We believe we are done as
far as the conservation easement. We have submitted that to the City attorney and that document is agreeable between
the applicant and Saratoga PLAN. There have been minor revisions to the plan. Mr. Carr provided a brief over of the
project noting the revisions to the document as provided to staff and the Board. These changes were requested by
PLAN.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there were any further questions or comments from the Board.
Bob Bristol made a motion in the matter of the application of the Oak Ridge Subdivision Phase 2, Meadowbrook Road,
extension of subdivision approval within the Suburban Residential-1 (SR-1) District to August 5, 2017 be approved.
Clifford Van Wagner seconded the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Clifford Van Wagner, in favor; Bob Bristol, in favor; Ruth Horton, alternate, in favor;
Todd Fabozzi, in favor; Mark Torpey, Chairman, in favor; Abigail Wolfson, alternate, in favor;
Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
Maria from Saratoga PLAN stated it has been great working on this project. Maria stated she would like the opportunity
to come and speak to the Board concerning a conservation organization being involved in a site plan approval project.
1. 17.017 SHELTERS OF SARATOGA (CODE BLUE), 14 Walworth Street, Special Use Permit for use
as a neighborhood rooming house within the Urban Residential-4 (UR-4) District.
2. 17.031 SHELTERS OF SARATOGA (CODE BLUE), 14 Walworth Street, Site Plan for neighborhood rooming
House within the Urban Residential (TRB) District.
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BACKGROUND:
SOS has current facility at 14 Walworth Street which serves homeless in the community with formal stay and
programming. The Code Blue shelter was started – 5 years ago within Saratoga Springs to provide shelter for those
without housing on nights where temperature drops lower than 32 degrees. It has had different temporary locations
including the Salvation Army. NYS Governor Cuomo signed executive order in 2016 requiring existing homeless
shelters to provide code blue shelters statewide when the temperature drops below 32 degrees.
SEQRA:
Action appears to be Unlisted. Review has been uncoordinated.
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated we have seen several presentations on the project. At the last meeting the applicant
provided a presentation. During the public hearing portion we had a number of comments. We had an opportunity to
review Part I of the SEQRA form at the last meeting. We closed the public hearing at that meeting. One of the
substantive changes was a reduction in the number of beds from 61 to 50. We have received a revised version of the
Neighborhood Advisory Council, which is posted on the web. There was a change in the membership numbers.
Kate Maynard, Principal Planner, City of Saratoga Springs stated additional correspondence was received copies were
provided to the Board as well as an updated SEQRA Part I.
Clifford Van Wagner stated to the members of the public, the Board is aware of the opposition to this project.
It is not necessary to hold up papers stating this. It is rude.
Mark Torpey, Chairman agreed with Clifford Van Wagner’s statement.
Claudia Braymer, an attorney for several of the neighbors stated the Board did not make mention of the appeal which
was filed on behalf of the neighborhood to Steve Shaw, Building Inspector.
Kate Maynard, Principal Planner stated there has been paperwork submitted on behalf of the neighborhood to Steve
Shaw. It was his determination of the Neighborhood Rooming House. This has been received and is being reviewed by
the City as well as the ZBA and Planning Board.
Mark Schachner, Counsel to the Planning Board stated generally speaking such an appeal is subject to a public hearing.
The ZBA may review this in June and schedule a public hearing for their July meeting. The ZBA will have up to 62 after
the public hearing to decide interpretation appeal. It is typically a 2 month or so process, however our ZBA meets twice
a month.
Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman stated this is a serious matter. I have given this project a tremendous amount of thought.
I want to be sensitive and conscious about everyone involved. I recognize that there is traffic in the neighborhood,
and there are concerns regarding the Code Blue facility. I cannot think of another place in the city that would not
generate the same questions and opposition we are facing now. The benefit in this particular case is that it is next to
Shelters where there is already staff and people that know the population are qualified and know how to approach them
professionally with quality care. We were not asked for an Advisory Opinion on the location of this project. Therefore we
must deal with the application as presented. I cannot help but think about what my daughter said would I rather wake up
to find a stolen bike or a shrub damaged versus a homeless person who has died as a result of being homeless. This is
an opportunity.
Clifford Van Wagner stated he agrees with Jamin and everything he has said. The location of Code Blue next to shelters
is probably the only way this works on a grand scale. As Jamin stated we weren’t asked to find another location for this
project. The application in front of us has merit. I am concerned about sending a directive to the ZBA that might
prejudice their decision making by this Board acting on it before the determination is made. Clifford Van Wagner stated
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the Board can go either way on this. The applicant can proceed at their own risk with the application, and also the
Planning Board can hold off on a decision until the ZBA makes their determination.
Mark Schachner, Attorney for the Land Use Boards stated what Cliff has just stated is correct. The Planning Board can
process, review and/or decide the application if the Board wishes to do so. The Board closed the public hearing on May
25, 2017, that means if nothing else happens; the Board has until July 25, 2017, 62 days following the close of the public
hearing in which the Board must render a decision. So, the Board can proceed as far as they wish including a decision
or take your time and not decide this evening. One thing of concern which was stated was the notion if anything you
decide this evening could be a directive to the ZBA, and you did not say after telling the ZBA on how to act, you as a
Planning Board would not be expressing an opinion on underlying issues. If you as a Planning Board make a decision
this evening, you have made the decision on the basis that it is an allowed use in the zone and on its merits as it has
been presented. An appeal has been filed of our zoning officer’s determination as to whether in fact the defined use falls
within the definition of neighborhood rooming house. If the Planning Board makes a determination this evening before
the ZBA makes its determination it does not affect how the ZBA rules on this issue.
Ruth Horton, alternate stated the application has been responsive to the concerns to the extent that they have been
able. In particular the way the Advisory Committee is setup and structured it seems to be a good watch dog/ solution to
the oversight to the property. I was glad to see that as part of the record.
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated he also agrees with Jamin and the comment which he made. We are asked to take a
broader look at the pros and con at all the salient issues for this project. When I balance it all out and weigh it in from a
much larger perspective, at least my interpretation of what my responsibility is I agree with the interpretation Jamin is
coming to. My challenge is to figure out some way to put some teeth into this council so there is a feedback mechanism,
a governance structure that works that provides the neighborhood itself and stakeholders to get this right. It is
something it will take a while to iterate to.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked legal counsel Mark Schachner the following – there has been some discussion
concerning the possibility of a temporary Special Use Permit for this. Something that may have sunset clause which will
cause them to come before this Board for us to look and see how things are going, and potentially make some changes.
Is there some opportunity for the Board to work in this fashion or is it legally not allowed.
Mark Schachner, legal counsel stated there is not, in New York State. The Planning Board has the opportunity to have
continued oversight over a project once it has been approved. This Board frequently entertains applications to modify
Special Use Permits. If the applicant wishes to consider any changes to the Special Use Permit the Board does have
the authority to do that. Otherwise, the Board in New York State does not have the opportunity to assert the authority or
jurisdiction on a continued basis.
Discussion ensued regarding the authority of the Planning Board in the issuance of a Temporary Special Use Permit.
Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman stated I am nervous about the Temporary Special Use Permit. We are asking the applicant
to go ahead and build a building without the assurance that it will continue there in some way. Personally I could not
support a Temporary Special Use Permit in this situation.
Mark Torpey, Chairman questioned counsel as to what could the Board do to empower the Neighborhood Advisory
Council.
Mark Schachner, counsel to the Planning Board stated the Board could ask the Advisory Council for any opinions
you wish but you can’t forcefully implement recommendations from the council unless the applicant cooperates.
There is a policy proposed by the applicant and that policy states that there will be 10 standing members comprised of 2
executive directors of Shelters of Saratoga and Code Blue, 2 members of the shelters Board of Directors, 1 outreach
directors, a designee of the police department, and four members of the neighborhood. That is what is proposed and
fairly precisely defined.
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Mark Torpey, Chairman stated we will review SEQRA Part II which will give us the opportunity to review additional
concerns.
The Board reviewed the SEQRA Part II.
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated we do have ample support in this document. Some comments were made concerning
over concentration population in certain areas which relates to the much broader issue we have and that is lack of
affordable housing in the City.
Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman stated concerning the over concentration in certain areas and how the West side does
seem to have absorbed a lot of the Social Services has not been overlooked by him or taken lightly.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there were any questions or comments from the Board.
NOTE:
Mark Schachner, Counsel to the Planning Board exited the meeting at 7:00 P.M.
Mark Torpey, Chairman reviewed Items 1 – 3 on the SEQRA Part II form with the Board.
Discussion ensued among the Board noting density in this UR-4 District and the surrounding zoning district designations
in this area, impact on the neighborhood and an annual review by the Planning Board and City Council.
SEQR DECISION:
Clifford Van Wagner stated that based upon the information provided by the applicant in Part I of the SEQR Full
Environmental Assessment Form, and analysis of the information provided and presented in Part II of the SEQR Full
Environmental Assessment Form, the project will not result in any large and important impacts and, therefore, is one that
will not have a significant adverse impact on the environment. Based on this, I move to make a SEQR negative
declaration for this action.
Ruth Horton, Alternate seconded the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chairman, asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Clifford Van Wagner, in favor; Bob Bristol, abstained; Ruth Horton, alternate, in favor;
Todd Fabozzi, in favor; Mark Torpey, Chairman, in favor; Abigail Wolfson, alternate, in favor;
Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0-1
Mark Torpey, Chairman discussed moving forward with the Special Use Permit or wait until a determination
is made by the ZBA in the appeal process.
Clifford Van Wagner stated he supports the project but would like to hold off on Special Use. Let the ZBA deal with the
issues from the concerned citizens have brought up and hold our vote on Special Use in abeyance.
Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman stated given the appeal and the timing of it I recognize what Cliff is saying and I would
rather the ZBA look at this with fresh eyes and without being influenced by the position of the Planning Board.
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Bob Bristol stated he also supports that idea. I do not like to make a decision that will affect another Board who I think
has a more primary say in this.
Todd Fabozzi, I agree with all the comments which have been shared. We need to make sure all the neighborhood
concerns are accounted for. We are attempting to do this the best way that we can. I agree with the idea that we should
let the ZBA make their determination first.
Mayor Yepsen spoke regarding Code Blue. She appreciates the Planning Boards deliberation this evening. She
appreciates the Boards deliberation over the course of several months. She strongly urges action on this application this
evening. November is right around the corner. We have the builder here this evening and he will tell you every week is
Is going to count. This is a painful process for our City to go through every November and try to figure out where Code
Blue is going to land. That is not acceptable. Each Board has the responsibility for legislatively acting separately.
The Zoning Boards responsibility is to act separately and that is what they are charged to do. I appoint people to these
Boards that are extremely professional as all of you are. I would urge you to do it even subject to or take action tonight
and let the Zoning Board do their work too. I think no action tonight has an influence on the ZBA as well.
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated he believes the Board has stated they prefer to have the ZBA make their deliberations
first. If we coordinate this effectively we can sync this and make some progress.
Discussion ensued among the Board regarding a time frame for the project returning before this Board.
Kate Maynard, Principal Planner stated it is the Boards determination whether to make a decision or wait. If you are
inclined to wait until the ZBA meets and makes a decision that is first looking at the time frame. There is 60 days from
the date of the determination. The ZBA would be required to have a public hearing and the ZBA will place this on their
next agenda. I cannot give you a date at this point whether it will be on their June meeting agenda or the following
meeting having all the appropriate noticing in place per the zoning regulations. Upon their decision, if the Board upholds
the Building Inspectors decision, the application will return before the Planning Board for Site Plan and Special Use.
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated it was the consensus of the Planning Board to hold off on this application and allow the
ZBA to provide guidance concerning the rooming house. We will await their decision.
4. 17.025 MUNTER SUBDIVISION, Geyser Road, 3-lot final commercial subdivision in the General Industrial
(IND-G) District.
District.
5. 17.026 SKS BOTTLE AND PACKAGING, Geyser Road, Site Plan review of 118,000 square foot warehouse
Facility in an Industrial General (IND-G) District.
SEQRA:
Action for SEQRA includes potential 3 lot subdivision, and SKS site plan application.
BACKGROUND:
While outside the Grande Industrial Park, subject property is zoned IND-G. It is over 45 acres and has neighbors of
former Serotta Bike now Artisanal Brewery and Upstate Distillery, Saratoga Water, Pitney Farms and railroad line to
west. Project was last seen by the Planning Board on May 11, 2017 agenda. Updated information was provided
to the Board since the last agenda.
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Applicant: John Munter, Munter Enterprises and Ken and Steve Haran, owners, SKS Bottle and Packaging
Agent: Tom Nace, Engineer
SEQRA:
Action for SEQRA includes potential 3 lot subdivision and SKS site plan application that follows. Staff comments were
provided to the applicant, many were responded to with updated information provided.
BACKGROUND:
While outside Grande Industrial Park subject property is zoned IND-G. It is over 45 acres and has neighbors
of former Serotta Bike now Artisanal Brewery and Upstate Distillery, Saratoga Water, Pitney Farm and railroad line to the
west. The project was last before the Planning Board on May 11, 2017.
Mr. Munter stated all the projects previously presented before this Board have had a similar number of comments from
the City Engineer. This is very typical; especially the storm water issues, utilities and things of that nature are typical
items addressed with Tim prior to final approval and signatures. The items on the list from Chazen are provided to you
to review prior to sending on to Chazen.
Mr. Munter provided a visual presentation of the proposed changes which were made may not be apparent to the Board.
The applicants have replied to technical engineering comments from Chazen which are not major significant differences,
nothing concerning road locations, clearing limits, building size, integrity of utilities of any nature to point out. Many
changes which were made were related to comment from Chazen brought forth to meet Tim Wales, City Engineer
standards, review and approval.
Mark Torpey, Chairman questioned the receipt of confirmation of the wetlands from DEC.
Mr. Munter stated the confirmation of the DEC wetlands was granted in 2009 when the mapping was completed.
A certified wetland delineation was completed and accepted by the DEC. A copy of the delineation confirmation will be
provided to staff and the Board.
Mark Torpey, Chairman questioned if a response was received from the County Planning Department. They did have
some concerns regarding ownership of the new road. A response was provided concerning the traffic assessment
completed by Creighton Manning. Basically they are agreeing with the assertion of the available site distance. Looking
at traffic when the two remaining lots are developed out.
Mr. Munter stated the easement is in place for the new roadway. Staff has proper paperwork and has been approved by
the City Attorney.
Mark Torpey, Chairman questioned additional buffering along the new road to address the neighbors concerns.
Mr. Munter provided a visual of the area in question. Planting will be completed to Mr. Van Hall’s satisfaction.
Whatever Mr. Van Hall wants we will accommodate.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated the public hearing was opened and remains open.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
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Mark Torpey, Chairman closed the public hearing at 7:38 P.M.
SEQRA:
The Board reviewed Part II of the SEQRA Long EAF.
No large or important areas of concern were noted.
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated concerning subdivision. The primary issue is buffering and working with the adjacent
property owner to provide this once you have done your grading and your storm water management program is in place
to the satisfaction of the City Engineer. He has indicated that the plans are almost complete at this time.
Kate Maynard, Principal Planner, City of Saratoga Springs questioned lighting at the proposed new access point.
Mr. Munter stated in the past when we have extended roads we had discussions with the Planning Board and the
general consensus of the Board was they did not want a lot of unnecessary lighting to create a glow in the surrounding
residential neighborhood. Just to clarify there aren’t lit streets out there currently. Cady Hill Boulevard, Duplainville
Road, Freedom Way, Grande Boulevard, and Unlimited Drive. None of the existing streets have street lights.
Geyser Road has sporadic sparse street lights. The intersection will have some light with the light from Geyser.
Discussion ensued among the Board concerning lighting the access point.
Mr. Munter stated there is site lighting. When the other parcels are developed they will have site lighting as well.
There will be lighted signage at the entrance to the new road.
SEQR DECISION:
Clifford Van Wagner stated that based upon the information provided by the applicant in Part I of the SEQR Full
Environmental Assessment Form, and analysis of the information provided and presented in Part II of the SEQR Full
Environmental Assessment Form, the project will not result in any large and important impacts and, therefore, is one that
will not have a significant adverse impact on the environment. Based on this, I move to make a SEQR negative
declaration for this action.
Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman seconded the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chairman, asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Clifford Van Wagner, in favor; Bob Bristol, in favor; Ruth Horton, alternate, in favor;
Todd Fabozzi, in favor; Mark Torpey, Chairman, in favor; Abigail Wolfson, alternate, in favor;
Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated the conditions for subdivision approval are buffering and working with the adjacent
property owner to provide this once grading and your storm water management program is in place
to the satisfaction of the City Engineer. He has indicated that the plans are almost complete at this time. A lighted sign
at the entrance to the new road.
Clifford Van Wagner made a motion in the matter of the Munter Subdivision, Geyser Road, that the application be
approved with the conditions as noted by the Chair.
Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman seconded the motion.
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Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Clifford Van Wagner, in favor; Bob Bristol, in favor; Ruth Horton, alternate, in favor;
Todd Fabozzi, in favor; Mark Torpey, Chairman, in favor; Abigail Wolfson, alternate, in favor;
Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated on the site plan review we discussed the parking and the waiver being requested.
In terms of clearing and grading it is no way entering into the 100 foot wetland buffer.
Mr. Munter stated they will be 350 – 400 feet from the actual wetland.
Kate Maynard, Principal Planner stated the regulations stated 1 parking space for 2 which is 53 spaces.
106 employees currently expanding to 116 in the future. There are 130 being provided there is enough parking.
Mr. Munter stated we are trying to create a parking lot that is adequate for the current employees and the current
condition and their expected expansion.
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated we will provide a waiver from the standard required parking up to 130 parking spaces
being provided.
Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman made a motion in the matter of the SKS Bottle and Packaging, Geyser Road that the
application for site plan approval of an 118,000 square foot warehouse facility be approved with the conditions and
parking waiver as noted by the Chair.
Todd Fabozzi seconded the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Clifford Van Wagner, in favor; Bob Bristol, in favor; Ruth Horton, alternate, in favor;
Todd Fabozzi, in favor; Mark Torpey, Chairman, in favor; Abigail Wolfson, alternate, in favor;
Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
The Board recessed at 7:58 P.M.
The Board reconvened at 8:05 P.M.
6. 17.037.1 SKIDMORE BOATHOUSE, Staffords Bridge Road, Consideration of SEQRA Lead Agency Status
and coordinated environmental review.
SEQRA:
ZBA is currently reviewing area variance requests for the proposal. They have proactively deferred
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SEQRA to the Planning Board should the Board accept it and complete SEQRA review. Once SEQRA determination is
made,
the ZBA will continue with variance review. Project will return before the Planning Board for Special Use Permit and
Site plan review if the variances are received.
BACKGROUND:
Existing college rowing facility and storage proposed for expansion. 2,400 square foot facility and 1,500 square foot
storage building proposed. From City’s Zoning Ordinance: “Marina and Docks: A facility located within 500 feet of a
navigable waterway for boat storage and servicing, and which may contain retail and drinking facilities.”
RECUSAL:
Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman recused from the application since he has been employed at Skidmore for over 10 years.
Applicant: Dan Rodecker, Skidmore College
Agents: Don McPherson & Bob Kernan, LA Group; John Onderdonk, Architect, Mosaic Associates
Mr. McPherson stated this project has been in the works for the last five or six years. Skidmore’s goal is to properly
accommodate the existing rowing program it is not booming but has been underserved for the last several years. Part of
that is the capacity. There is no room for the team to be indoors. The existing facility is merely storage for the boats and
there are more boats than can fit into that building. A visual presentation of the proposed project and the existing
neighborhood was provided for the Boards review. Mr. McPherson provided information to the Board concerning the
construction of the existing bridge nearby which provided a narrow strip of area for parking. Skidmore has invested in
the old boathouse to both stabilize it and improve the appearance. The buildings are in the extreme corner of the
property which is also the extreme corner of the City. The majority of this property has significant environmental
constraints for development, including wetland and unstable soils. These conditions have caused this difficulty by
limiting the developable areas to approximately .3 acres on a narrow stretch of land. A visual rendering of the proposed
project was provided. The currently parking area has morphed over time and could be better organized. The property
line is right up to the existing building. If we move the building 60 feet to meet the setbacks we are in the wetlands.
Kate Maynard, Principal Planner stated the Board needs to wait for DEC documentation concerning the wetlands.
Mr. Kernan provided a visual noting where the wetlands were delineated and the City property line noting the constraints
placed on the project.
Mr. McPherson stated the 100 foot buffer for the wetlands actually crosses the road. Also noted was location of the
proposed parking area and moving it away from the front yard in an effort to improve the aesthetics of the property.
There is also a slight total gain of impervious on the property.
Mr. McPherson stated the applicants are in discussion with the County concerning using the property and the County
right of way. The Army Corp of Engineers has issued a permit for the construction. We are awaiting the DEC
documentation.
Mr. Onderdonk stated the applicant is maintaining the same character of the original building. The buildings were kept
small to scale in context with the rural buildings. The training building is dry flood proofed; it is essentially a concrete
bath tub. The utility building is wet flood proof with venting to allow the water to migrate and not affect the structure of
the building. Mr. Onderdonk spoke about the buildings and why they are setup the way they are.
Clifford Van Wagner made a motion in the matter of the Skidmore Boathouse, Staffords Bridge Road that the Planning
Board accepts Lead Agency Status for this application as it pertains to SEQRA.
Bob Bristol seconded the motion.
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Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Clifford Van Wagner, in favor; Bob Bristol, in favor; Ruth Horton, alternate, in favor;
Todd Fabozzi, in favor; Mark Torpey, Chairman, in favor; Abigail Wolfson, alternate, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
Discussion ensued among the Board concerning moving forward with the SEQRA review.
The Board reviewed Part II of the SEQRA Short Form. No large or important areas of concern were noted.
SEQR DECISION:
Clifford Van Wagner stated that based upon the information provided by the applicant in Part I of the SEQR Full
Environmental Assessment Form, and analysis of the information provided and presented in Part II of the SEQR Full
Environmental Assessment Form, the project will not result in any large and important impacts and, therefore, is one that
will not have a significant adverse impact on the environment. Based on this, I move to make a SEQR negative
declaration for this action. This is contingent upon a successful DEC permit being issued.
Bob Bristol seconded the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chairman, asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Clifford Van Wagner, in favor; Bob Bristol, in favor; Ruth Horton, alternate, in favor;
Todd Fabozzi, in favor; Mark Torpey, Chairman, in favor; Abigail Wolfson, alternate, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES:
Approval of meeting minutes was deferred to the June 22, 2017 meeting.
MOTION TO ADJOURN:
There being no further business to discuss Mark Torpey, Chairman adjourned the meeting at 8:37 A.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Diane M. Buzanowski
Recording Secretary
APPROVED 7/13/17
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