Planning Board
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · September 10, 2020
Minutes
PLANNING BOARD
MINUTES (FINAL)
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 2020
6:00 P.M.
ZOOM WEBINAR
CALL TO ORDER: Mark Torpey, Chairman called the meeting to order at 6:01 P.M.
SALUTE TO THE FLAG:
PRESENT: Mark Torpey, Chairman; Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman; Ruth Horton; Todd Fabozzi;
Sara Boivin; Kerry Mayo; Lexie Bonitatibus;
STAFF: Susan Barden, Principal Planner, City of Saratoga Springs
Vince DeLeonardis, City Attorney, City of Saratoga Springs
ANNOUNCEMENT OF RECORDING OF PROCEEDING:
The proceedings of this meeting are being recorded for the benefit of the secretary. Because the minutes are not a
verbatim record of the proceedings, the minutes are not a word-for-word transcript of the recording.
A. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES:
Approval of meeting minutes was deferred to the end of the meeting.
B. POSSIBLE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS:
NOTE: The intent of a consent agenda is to identify any application that appear to be “approvable” without need
for further evaluation or discussion. If anyone wished to further discuss any proposed consent agenda
item, then that item would be pulled from the “consent agenda” and dealt with individually.
NONE AT THIS TIME.
C. DISCUSSION ITEM:
1. #20200574/17.074 REINTRODUCTION OF EXCELSIOR PARK PROJECT, Excelsior Avenue & Ormondy
Lane, Special Use Permit for mixed use development including 163 residential units, 36,200 square feet of
commercial space, and a 60 room hotel and restaurant within the T4 & T-5 Districts.
Agent: Dave Carr, LA Group
Mr. Carr provided background information on the original project. This is a 52 acre site in two parcels. This is split by
Ormondy Lane. A visual of the project was provided noting this was to be developed in two phases. Mr. Carr provided
a history of the project beginning with the approval of the Special Use Permit in 2002; Subdivision approval for Phase 1A
and Phase 1B in 2003; along with Site Plan Approval for a hotel and 3 buildings. There were several amendments to the
Special Use Permit over the years as well as extensions to the Special Use Permits for Phases 3 & 4 which expired in
2011. Phase 1 & 2 were started so they could be completed. In 2015 Phase 2 and 2A were approved. Phase 2A
which is John Witts project is currently under construction. In 2017 a new application was submitted because the permit
expired. In 2018 we presented the project to the Board. At that time the Board and City staff requested documentation
comparing the current proposal to what was originally approved in 2017 under SEQRA. This was submitted and
reviewed by Chazen the city’s designated engineer. We responded to all questions and comments and we have gone
through SEQRA. Traffic is one area which has not yet been completed. Our traffic engineer is completing the analysis
centered around mitigation for future vehicles trips.
Mr. Carr reviewed the original master plan which was tied to the statement of findings of the Special Use Permit with a
visual mapping of the site. 60% of the site has been commercially developed and 70% of the site has been residentially
developed. A visual of the current proposal was also provided noting 34.7 acres of developable land remaining. We
are currently under contract with a company to provide for 52 units of mixed income affordable workforce housing.
Paperwork is currently being completed and will be submitted within the month.
Discussion ensued among the Board regarding what is currently being proposed; new traffic study results; pedestrian
connectivity and amenities.
2. #20200409/2018097415.040 EXCELSIOR PARK, PHASE 2A, Excelsior Avenue & Eureka Avenue, lot line
Adjustment between two lots in the Transect-5 (T-5) District.
Applicant: Excelsior Park, LLC
Agent: Dave Carr, LA Group
Mr. Carr provided a visual of the site. With the existing developed phases of the project, the applicant is requesting a lot
line adjustment to place this phase on its own parcel as part of the creation of a homeowners association (HOA) for the
homeowners of this individual phase. They do their own plowing, landscaping and mowing and their own maintenance.
The adjusted lot would result in 22 residential units on a 1.7 acre lot. This does not impact the site plan or the letter of
credit. Those remain under Excelsior Park, LLC. This is solely for the sale of the units.
Mark Torpey, Chairman questioned if there was an issue with not having access from a City street.
Mr. Carr stated it is only meant to have access from Whistler Court and Gibson. Originally the City did not want to take
those. Whistler Court and Gibson Court are not city owned, they are maintained by the HOA.
Mark Torpey, Chairman questioned if this makes it more difficult or places restrictions for the master plan or broader
development.
Mr. Carr stated the projects will share the maintenance of the alleys.
Susan Barden, Principal Planner stated she did question how the site plan approval will be affected if the property is sold
or transferred, as well as the letter of credit. Mr. Carr did provided that information noting nothing will change. Excelsior
Park, LLC will be responsible for the completion of the site plan and the City will hold the letter of credit for completion of
that project.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there were any further questions or comments from the Board. None heard.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if anyone in the public would like to comment on this application. None heard.
Ruth Horton made a motion in the matter of the Excelsior Park, Phase 2A, Excelsior Avenue and Eureka Avenue lot line
adjustment be approved for the project. Lexie Bonitatibus seconded the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Mark Torpey, Chairman, in favor; Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman, in favor; Ruth Horton, in favor; Todd Fabozzi, in favor;
Sara Boivin, in favor; Lexie Bonitatibus, in favor; Kerry Mayo, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
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3. #20180203/18.016 ANW HOLDINGS, INC., SUBDIVISION MODIFICATION, Birch & Hyde Streets,
subdivision modification to a previously approved three-lot subdivision to remove a condition of approval
to permit removal of a silver maple tree at 13 Birch Street.
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated this is a subdivision modification. Two of the homes are built out and the third one is
under construction currently. The Planning Board issued an approval with a condition to preserve and protect a heritage
55 inch mature silver maple tree. A visit to the site did not indicate any measures in place to preserve this tree. The City
Arborist has also visited the site. We have also received two letters from the neighbors objecting to removing the tree.
Applicant: John Witt, Witt Construction
Mr. Witt stated this application was before the Board for a three lot sub-division in 2018. He provided a brief history of
the project for the Board. We have pushed the current house as far to the right as possible. The future homeowner met
with the City Arborist and noted her concerns regarding disturbing the root system of the tree. The future homeowner
and the City Arborist discussed the situation and determined the tree would need to be removed. There is a landscape
plan for the area.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Mark Torpey, Chairman opened the public hearing at 7:03 P.M.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
Taryn Matusik, a neighbor questioned if her comment was received by the Board.
Susan Barden, Principal Planner, City of Saratoga Springs, stated the Board is in receipt of the following
correspondence.
-email from Taryn Matusik, received September 10, 2020.
-email from Michael Winefeld, 11 Hyde Street, received September 10, 2020.
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated he visited the site. There was no delineation where the tree root structure would be or
any type structure identifying the critical area to avoid or where the root structure would be.
John Witt stated that is a correct statement. The tree canopy is usually where the root structure would be. That tree
leans over to this lot and also the lot next door. It would be a 50 ft. circle and the lot is only 60 ft. wide. Although it is a
beautiful tree, you either have a tree or you build a home. We cut it as minimal as possible. It could stay but the grade
slopes up and wind from the southwest could create a problem. Landscaping and planting new trees would be very nice.
Susan Barden, Principal Planner stated she spoke to Steve Lashcomb, City Arborist to see if he had re-visited the site as
he had stated in his email. No response was received as of this date.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if anyone on the Board would like to comment on this application.
Todd Fabozzi stated the condition of subdivision approval was to leave the tree intact. That was blatantly disregarded
and excavation cut into the root zone. Now it appears that the tree will not thrive and we are being asked to approve the
removal of it.
John Witt stated that is not correct. The house siting was moved as far to the right as possible to protect the tree root
system. It was an approved lot and a fine thought to save the tree. The reality of it is it is in the building envelope and
we did the best we could to stay away from the base of the tree. The house is a very small house.
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Todd Fabozzi asked if it was ever feasible to save the tree?
John Witt stated it is feasible now. As the arborist stated the tree will decline. Older trees decline. If we are trying to
create a mature forest in an urban city and build houses trees will need to be removed. It is a beautiful tree; however a
big windstorm will topple this tree.
Sara Boivin stated she agrees with Todd. This was a condition of approval. It is a violation and should be addressed as
a violation and a fine assessed with funds put in escrow. This is part of the Boards purview.
Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman agrees with both Sara and Todd. It is important to also remember we included in that
Approval a waiver for the sidewalk on this lot. He does not recall the tree being a big issue and saving the tree was a
condition of approval and we should not go back on that approval.
Kerry Mayo stated he did visit the site and the tree looks healthy. He questioned when the foundation was excavated.
John Witt stated about 3-4 weeks ago.
Kerry Mayo stated we have had some significant wind storms since then and I do not think you can compare a maple
tree to a willow tree which is a delicate tree and fall over all the time. He would like to wait for the City Arborists
comments.
John Witt stated the City Arborist met with the prospective homeowner and agreed the tree should come down. He
agrees with the Board. He loves saving trees, and planting trees. He feels in reviewing the building envelope, this tree
could become an issue in the future. We are planting many trees in this area.
Discussion ensued among the Board regarding the tree, the conditioning of the subdivision which included saving the
tree and potential violation, as well as re-planting plan noting the placement of additional trees.
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated what the Board needs is a definitive analysis and response from the City Arborist.
In his professional judgment does the tree need to be removed. It is difficult for the Board to render a decision this
evening.
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated the public hearing will remain open. We await a response from the City Arborist.
4. #20200440 CRESCENT STREET SUBDIVISION, 125 Jackson Street, coordinated SEQRA review for a
Proposed 6-lot subdivision in the Urban Residential-2 (UR-2) District.
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated what is before the Board this evening is discussion regarding coordinated SEQRA
Review. The other involved agencies are the City Council and the Department of Health. This proposed six lot
residential subdivision will accommodate single-family residences and includes the proposed abandonment of the paper
street. This is subject to approval by the City Council.
Applicant: David DePaulo, Bella Homes
Agent: Scott Lansing, Lansing Engineering
Mr. Lansing provided a visual of the site noting the existing structure on the site will be demolished as well as several
trees. We are proposing six lots in this UR-2 zone with minimum lot size 6,600 square feet minimum width 60 feet.
All lots meet zoning requirements and will be served by public water and sewer. Concerning the endangered species
We did get a hit on the resource mapper for the environmental assessment form for the Frosted Elfin and the Blue
Karner Butterflies. We did have habitat studies performed and it was determined the habitat was not there to support
these species. We will coordinate with the DEC on those studies. Secondly relative to archeology. We did get a hit for
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historic resources since we are located 650 feet from the tract and the Historic District. We will coordinate with the State
Historic Preservation Office. Concerning the alleyway down the middle. The applicant has been working with the Real
Estate Committee and they have recommended unanimously making the conveyance of this parcel of land. The
applicant has appeared before the City Council and at their July 7th 2020 meeting they approved the conveyance of the
property subject to the Planning Board approval of the subdivision. If subdivision approval is granted by the Planning
Board the applicant will proceed with the purchase of the conveyed land from the City.
Susan Barden, Principal Planner stated the conveyance of property is for the entire paper street. The center line of the
street would go to the adjoining property owner on each side. It will go from Crescent Street to the north.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there were any questions or comments from the Board.
Kerry Mayo made a motion in the matter of the Crescent Street Subdivision, 125 Jackson Street, that the Planning Board
seeks Lead Agency Status for SEQRA. Involved agencies include the City Council and Department of Health.
Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman seconded the motion.
VOTE:
Mark Torpey, Chairman, in favor; Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman, in favor; Ruth Horton, in favor; Todd Fabozzi, in favor;
Sara Boivin, in favor; Lexie Bonitatibus, in favor; Kerry Mayo, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
5. #20200518 LOUDEN ROAD SUBDIVISION, 406 Louden Road, final subdivision review for a proposed
five-lot conservation subdivision within a Rural Residential (RR) District.
Mark Torpey, Chairman stated what is before the Board this evening is a final subdivision review and approval.
This is a previously opened application and has been before the Board several times. The applicant will
provide any updates on the project.
Applicant: Wade Newman
Mr. Newman stated since the last Planning Board Meeting the Board requested further clarity on the zoning
requirements for the lots. That information has been provided to the Board. Currently the applicant is working with DPW
for obtaining the 911 addressing assignments for Bog Meadow Run. The Deed Covenant language was submitted and
is currently being reviewed by the City Attorney. The Letter of Credit is currently being finalized. He did note the lots
lines for Lot #4 were moved a bit to add more acreage to Lot #3. A visual of this proposal was provided to the Board.
The total conservation area will remain the same. No other changes have been made.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there were any further questions or comments from the Board. None heard.
Mark Torpey, Chairman reviewed and recapped the conditions for approval:
-Contribution in lieu of – The applicant will provide $15,000 in funding for a mixed use trail
on the northern part of Louden Road. -The Board will made a recommendation to the City Council
for the $10,000 Rec fees to be attributed to that as well.
-The Condition of Approval contains an approved address.
-Appropriate Letter of Credit.
-No cut buffer – the Planning Board’s no cut buffer policy to be acknowledged on the deed.
Delineation of this area to be handled administratively.
-Easement language to the satisfaction and approval of the City Attorney.
-Development of language concerning the Planning Boards logic and thought in determining the in lieu of
fees for the project.
-Final plans to the satisfaction of DPW and city’s designated engineer.
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PUBLIC HEARING:
Mark Torpey, Chairman opened the public hearing at 7:47 P.M.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if anyone in the public would like to comment on this application. None heard.
Mark Torpey, Chairman closed the public hearing at 7:49 P.M.
Lexie Bonitatibus made a motion in the matter of the Louden Road Subdivision, 406 Louden Road final subdivision be
approved with the conditions as noted by the Chair. Ruth Horton seconded the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Mark Torpey, Chairman, in favor; Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman, in favor; Ruth Horton, in favor; Todd Fabozzi, in favor;
Sara Boivin, in favor; Lexie Bonitatibus, in favor; Kerry Mayo, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
Mark Torpey, Chairman allowed audience applicant to speak.
Mark Richardson, Whistler Court spoke regarding the Excelsior Park Project.
Mark Torpey, Chairman suggested the applicant contact City Staff regarding his questions. The Excelsior Park project
will be before the Board for further approvals. The applicant should check the agendas for this projects re-appearance
before the Board.
APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES:
Mark Torpey, Chairman made a motion to approve the minutes of the July 30th, and August 13th Planning Board Meeting
Minutes as submitted. Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman seconded the motion.
VOTE:
Mark Torpey, Chairman, in favor; Jamin Totino, Vice Chairman, in favor; Ruth Horton, in favor; Todd Fabozzi, in favor;
Sara Boivin, in favor; Lexie Bonitatibus, in favor; Kerry Mayo, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
UPCOMING MEETINGS:
Planning Board Workshop, Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 5:00 P.M.
Planning Board Meeting, Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 6:00 PM.
MOTION TO ADJOURN:
There being no further business to discuss Mark Torpey, Chairman adjourned the meeting at 8:12 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Diane M. Buzanowski
APPROVED 9-24-20 Recording Secretary
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Agenda
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS Mark Torpey, Chair
Jamin Totino,Vice Chair
P LANNING B OARD Lexie Bonitatibus
Todd Fabozzi
City Hall - 474 Broadway Ruth Horton
Saratoga Springs, New York12866 Sara Boivin
Tel: 518-587-3550 fax: 518-580-9480 Kerry Mayo
Shawna Jenks, Alternate
Jason Doty, Alternate
PLANNING BOARD MEETING
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 2020
RECREATION CENTER, 15 VANDERBILT AVE
DRAFT AGENDA
6:00 PM
NOTE: THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD VIRTUALLY USING ZOOM VIDEOCONFERENCING
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- To participate or provide input during the meeting, register here.
- Input may also be emailed, no later than 12PM of the day of the meeting, to Jennifer.merriman@saratoga-
springs.org.
Salute to the Flag
A. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES: JULY 30 AND AUGUST 13
B. POSSIBLE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
Note: The intent of a consent agenda is to identify any applications that appear to be ‘approvable’
without need for further evaluation or discussion. If anyone wishes to further discuss any proposed
consent agenda item, then that item would be pulled from the ‘consent agenda’ and dealt with
individually.
C. DISCUSSION ITEMS
1. APP.# 20200574/17.074 REINTRODUCTION OF EXCELSIOR PARK PROJECT, Excelsior Ave. &
Ormandy Ln., Special Use Permit for mixed-use development including 163
residential units, 36,200 sq. ft. of commercial space, and a 60-room hotel with
restaurant within the T-4 & T-5 Districts.
D. APPLICATIONS UNDER CONSIDERATION - Note: agenda item discussion will not begin past 10:00pm
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2. APP. #20200409/20180974/15.040 EXCELSIOR PARK, PHASE 2A, Excelsior Ave. & Eureka
Ave., lot line adjustment between two lots in the Transect – 5 (T-5) District.
3. APP. #20180203/18.016 ANW HOLDINGS, INC. SUBDIVISON MODIFICATION, Birch & Hyde
Sts., subdivision modification to a previously approved three-lot subdivision to
remove a condition of approval to permit removal of an existing silver maple tree at
13 Birch St.
4. APP. #20200440 CRESCENT STREET SUBDIVISION, 125 Jackson St, coordinated SEQRA
review for a proposed 6-lot subdivision in the Urban Residential -2 (UR-2) Dristrict.
5. APP. #20200518 LOUDEN ROAD SUBDIVISION, 406 Louden Rd., final subdivision review for
a proposed five-lot conservation subdivision within a Rural Residential (RR) District.
E. UPCOMING MEETINGS:
NOTE: This agenda is subject to change. Please check www.saratoga-springs.org for latest version.
SARATOGA SPRINGS PLANNING BOARD
- GUIDELINES FOR PUBLIC INPUT -
The Planning Board reviews a wide variety of applications and its primary
responsibilities include four land development decisions including New York State
Environmental Quality Review (SEQR), Special Use Permit (SUP), Site Plan (SP) and
Subdivision (SD).
The rules regarding public input depend on the type of application before the
Planning Board.
SEQR and SP: The Planning Board reserves the right to allow public commentas
deemed necessary. The total duration for all public comments should not exceed
fifteen (15) minutes with each individual speaker limited to a total of two (2)
minutes.
SUP and SD: The Planning Board is required to conduct a public hearingwith proper
notice to all neighbors residing within 250 feet of the project. Each individual
speaker will be limited to a total of three (3) minutes.
For all applications: Speakers providing public input will be timed to ensure
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compliance. Applicants’ initial presentation to the Board will be limited to 15
minutes.
GENERAL GUIDELINES FOR SPEAKERS:
Planning Board members are volunteers appointed by the Mayor to serve seven-year
terms. Each member has a single vote and a quorum (4 or more members) is
required to vote on an application.
• All meetings are video recorded and webcast; please provide public input in a
respectful manner.
• Public input will occur after the Applicant has presented the project to the
Planning Board.
• Speak clearly into the microphone and state your name and address.
• Speakers will be timed – two (2) minute limit for public comment and three (3)
minute limit for public hearing. Be concise, it’s OK to speak for less than the
time limit.
• Individuals may not donate their allotted time to other speakers.
• Face the Planning Board at all times, do not engage in direct discussions with the
audience.
• Do not repeat points made by previous speakers.
• No laughing, heckling, speaking or clapping from the audience.
• Comments to the Board should specifically relate to the application under
consideration and be directly relevant to the evaluation criteria.
• It is best to identify a designated speaker to summarize comments from multiple
individuals.
• Written comments will be distributed to the Board and made part of the public
record.
• Please note that the Planning Board has no jurisdiction over code enforcement.
The Planning Board appreciates meaningful and thoughtful input from the
community.
To learn more about the application review process, please contact the City Planning
Department.
Susan Barden: 518-587-3550 x2493 susan.barden@saratoga-springs.org
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