Planning Board
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · November 18, 2021
Minutes
PLANNING BOARD
MINUTES ( FINAL)
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 18, 2021
6:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALL TO ORDER : Mark Torpey, Chair, called the meeting to order at 6:00 P.M.
SALUTE TO THE FLAG:
PRESENT : Mark Torpey, Chair; Ruth Horton; Kerry Mayo; Justin Doty; Al Dal Pos;
LATE ARRIVAL : Al DalPos arrived at 6:03 P.M.
ABSENT: Todd Fabozzi
STAFF: Susan Barden, Principal Planner, City of Saratoga Springs
Vince DeLeonardis, City Attorney
ANNOUNCEMENT OF RECORDING OF PROCEEDING:
The proceedings of this meeting are being recorded for the benefit of the secretary. Because the
minutes are not a verbatim record of the proceedings, the minutes are not a word-for-word
transcript of the recording.
A. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES:
Approval of meeting minutes was deferred to the end of the meeting.
B. POSSIBLE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS:
NOTE: The intent of a consent agenda is to identify any application that is “approvable” without
need
for further evaluation or discussion. If anyone wished to further discuss any proposed
consent agenda
item, then that item would be pulled from the “consent agenda” and dealt with individually.
C. APPLICATIONS UNDER CONSIDERATION:
1. #20200805 SAXTON SUBDIVISION, 34 Glenmore Avenue, Final Plat Review of a
proposed two-lot subdivision to provide for one new single-family residential lot in the
Urban Residential (UR-2) District.
BACKGROUND:
-ZBA considered the area variance on 08/23/21. The ZBA initiated coordinated SEQRA review and
requested an
Advisory Opinion from the Planning Board on the requested variance from the minimum lot width
requirements
-Planning Board issued a favorable Advisory Opinion to the ZBA on 09/09/21.
-Planning Board issued a Negative SEQRA Declaration on 09/09/21.
-ZBA granted an area variance on 09/27/21, from the average minimum lot width requirement from
60 ft. to 58.39 ft.
-Revised application and plans submitted on November 12, 2021.
SEQRA:
Proposed project is an unlisted action.
ZBA & Planning Board are involved agencies.
Coordination initiated by ZBA on 08/23/21 and the ZBA proactively deferred Lead Agency Status to
the Planning Board.
Planning Board accepted Lead Agency Status and issued a Negative SEQRA Declaration on
09/09/21.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated this application appeared before the Planning Board initially on
December 10, 2020.
The public hearing has been re-noticed for this evening. The Chair stated there were two questions
regarding this application an existing streetlight and street tree to remain. In any subdivision the
requirement is for the installation of sidewalks, in this instance this requirement is inconsistent with
the neighborhood. Typically, what we provide to be fair and equitable is a fee in lieu of. We look at
areas of the city where the application of a sidewalk would stitch together somewhere else where it
would make sense.
Applicant: Jacqueline Saxton
Ms. Saxton stated she objects to the fee in lieu of. In this case the City of Saratoga Springs
determined that there would not be any sidewalks on that side of the street when they agreed with
the West Way project of widening Glenmore Avenue. The city gave up its right of way on that side
and they would have at that time taken property all along Glenmore Avenue by eminent domain.
They did not do it. They determined they would widen Glenmore and have the developer put in
curbs but no sidewalks. This was done years ago.
Vincent DeLeonardis stated we would need to confirm with DPW that sidewalks were not indicated
in this area.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated the contingencies for the subdivision would be for the existing streetlight
and tree to remain.
Curbing to be reinstalled following construction. The Chair stated following a conversation with
DPW regarding sidewalks or fee in lieu of, this can be managed via an Administrative Action if
necessary.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Mark Torpey, Chair, opened the public hearing at 6:09 P.M.
Mark Torpey, Chair asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None
heard.
Mark Torpey, Chair, closed the public hearing at 6:10 P.M.
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Jason Doty made a motion in the matter of the application of the Saxton Two Lot Subdivision, 34
Glenmore Avenue be approved with the conditions as noted by the Chair. Ruth Horton seconded
the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chair, asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Mark Torpey, Chair, in favor; Ruth Horton, in favor; Kerry Mayo, in favor; Jason Doty, in favor; Al
DalPos, in favor
MOTION PASSES : 5-0
2. #20210307 THORNTON FINAL SUBDIVISION, 215 Grand Avenue, Final Plat
Review of a two-lot subdivision in the Urban Residential -2 (UR-2) District.
Mark Torpey, Chair, provided the following background information.
BACKGROUND:
-Two lot subdivision previously considered by the Planning Board in 2011. Denied March 12, 2012.
-Planning Board reviewed sketch plan on November 21, 2019.
-Final Plat review on April 22, 2021.
-ZBA requested an Advisory Opinion from the Planning Board pertaining to the area variance from
the minimum lot
requirements to provide for a proposed two-lot subdivision on July 12, 2021.
-Planning Board issued a Favorable Advisory Opinion to the ZBA on July 29, 2021.
-ZBA granted area variance on August 9, 2021.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Mark Torpey, Chair, opened the public hearing at 6:10 P.M.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated there are several items since the applicant’s last appearance before the
Board. DPS has had an opportunity to review the intersection and felt there was no significant
impact relative to the project on any design work that is already in place.
Applicant: Patrician & Daniel Thornton
Agent: Tonya Yasenchak, Engineering America
Ms. Yasenchak stated we do not have any changes relative to the subdivision itself. There are
engineering notes which need to be added onto the plan, such as noting that the sidewalk
proposed is on private property and minor notes.
Mark Torpey, Chair, reviewed items which are relevant to the application. Fencing along Birch
Street, and to maintain proper site distance the fence should be moved back 15 ft. from the
roadway. The sidewalk would continue along Birch Street. Easement language for sidewalk on
private property to the satisfaction of the City Attorney.
The home itself will be facing and fronting on Birch to be consistent with the neighborhood. A new
tree planting on Grand Avenue. Discussion with DPS to consider signage indicating a driveway in
the area. Sidewalk to continue across the driveway as well.
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Mr. Yasenchak questioned the request for signage indicating a driveway to be further discussed
with DPS.
SEQRA:
The proposed project is an Unlisted Action. Part I of the Short EAF has been submitted as is
accurate. Letter from SHPO has been provided.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated the Board will review Part II of the Short SEQRA form.
SEQRA DECISION :
Ruth Horton stated based upon the information provided by the applicant in Part I of the SEQR
Short Environmental Assessment Form, and analysis of the information provided and presented in
Part II of the SEQR Short Environmental Assessment Form, I make a motion for a SEQR negative
declaration since the project will not result in any large and important impacts and, therefore, is one
that will not have a significant adverse impact on the environment. Kerry Mayo seconded the
motion.
Mark Torpey, Chair, asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Mark Torpey, Chair, in favor; Ruth Horton, in favor; Kerry Mayo, in favor; Jason Doty, in favor; Al
DalPos, in favor
MOTION PASSES : 5-0
PUBLIC HEARING:
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated the public hearing was opened and remains open.
Mark Torpey, Chair, asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
Doreen Couch, 216 Washington Street. She voiced concerns regarding sidewalks down
Washington Street.
She is also concerned regarding the high-water table and the plans for the new house.
Mark Torpey, Chair, explained the issues regarding sidewalk all the way down to Washington
Street and the fee in lieu of stipulation which is often imposed on new development. Regarding the
storm water and drainage, the engineers on the project will ensure that no additional water issues
will arise with this project. The Planning Board has no purview over the design of the home.
Mark Torpey, Chair, closed the public hearing at 6:30 P.M.
Jason Doty made a motion in the matter of the application of the Thornton Subdivision, 215 Grand
Avenue, be approved
with the conditions as noted by the Chair. Al DalPos seconded the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chair, asked if there was any further discussion. None heard,
VOTE:
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Mark Torpey, Chair, in favor; Ruth Horton, in favor; Kerry Mayo, in favor; Jason Doty, in favor; Al
DalPos, in favor
MOTION PASSES : 5-0
3. #20211113 SMILEY-BRACKETT COTTAGE, 166 Excelsior Avenue, Consideration of
an Advisory Opinion to the City Council for Zoning Text Amendment to add the
property to the list of City Landmarks in 7.4.18.
Applicant: Samantha Bosshart, Executive Director, Saratoga Springs Preservation Foundation
Ms. Bosshart stated the Saratoga Springs Preservation has petitioned the City Council to allow the
Smiley-Brackett Cottage on Excelsior Avenue to become a local landmark. A visual of the site was
provided which abuts the Spring Run Trail. It was part of the Excelsior Spring Park. Ms. Bosshart
provided a history of the ownership of the property by Sarah Smiley and her tireless efforts to
preach and speak before congregations of denominations across the country and abroad. She
spent her summer months in study in her cottage here in Saratoga Springs. She was controversial
for insisting that women could study the scriptures themselves and founded a home Bible Study
program for women. She authored books which are still published today. Upon her death in 1917
the cottage was left to the Society for the Home Study of Holy Scripture and Church History a group
she founded to promote religious study by mail. Ms. Smiley built the house in the Gothic Revival
Style in 1872. We have very few Gothic Revival houses in the City of Saratoga Springs. None
which except for this one has a rural setting, which is where this type of home was intended to be
set. In 1921 Charles Brackett purchased the cottage. He authored novels and become a drama
critic, and screenwriter. He won academy awards and an Oscar for Lifetime Achievement in 1958.
Mr. Brackett built accessory structures on the site. Prior to his death the property was sold to Daniel
Jewett. The Saratoga Springs Preservation Foundation has listed the property on its endangered
property list in 1998. For the past 20 years the Foundation has attempted to assist the current
owner. The Foundation has also attempted to seek a Determination of Eligibility for individual listing
on the National Register of Historic Places. The condition of the property continues to deteriorate
and there is concern that the heirs of the current owner will not have an interest in preserving the
structures. It is currently not located in a Historic District or an Architectural Review District,
therefore, there is no review for demolition or new construction. Ms. Bosshart provided the criteria
for inclusion on the National Register and the property qualifies. The Foundation is before the DRC
to seek a local landmark designation for this property. This property has history that is worth saving
and needs to be protected long into the future. We are hopeful that the Planning Board will support
these efforts.
Ruth Horton made a motion for a positive Advisory Opinion to the City Council given the project
comports with the Comprehensive Plan and is consistent with Zoning. Al DalPos seconded the
motion.
Mark Torpey, Chair, asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Mark Torpey, Chair, in favor; Ruth Horton, in favor; Kerry Mayo, in favor; Jason Doty, in favor; Al
DalPos, in favor
MOTION PASSES : 5-0
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4. #20210932 25 LAKE/38 HIGH ROCK AVENUE SUBDIVISION, 25 Lake Avenue/38
High Rock Avenue, Final Plat Review of a two-lot subdivision in the Transect -6 Urban
Core District.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated the applicant is proposing a two-lot subdivision. This area is the outdoor
seating area for Jacob and Anthony’s and the request is to carve that area into a separate parcel.
Applicant: Turf Parillo, LLC
Agent: Mike Ingersoll, Matt Brobston, LA Group
Mr. Ingersoll stated Mr. Parillo is a partial owner of both properties. What we are attempting to
achieve here is one of the two ownership entities no longer wishes to own the outdoor patio. We
are proposing a two-lot subdivision creating a new lot that would be .041 acres. Lot #1 the
Hampton Suites would be reduced to 1.046 acres. The area to be subdivided is the outdoor area
operated by Jacob and Anthony’s. The subdivision is to separate the ownership of that area from
the Hampton Inn parcel. A visual of the site was provided for the Board noting the area in question.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Mark Torpey, Chair, opened the public hearing at 7:00 P.M.
The following public comments were received by the Board.
-Emailed comments from Betty Spinelli, 38 High Rock, received 11/17/21.
-Emailed comments from Joe Stanek, 38 High Rock, received 11/17/21.
-Emailed comments from Barb and Steve Ferraro, 38 High Rock, received 11/17/21.
-Emailed comments from Sally and Keith Manz, 38 High rock, received 11/17/21.
Mark Torpey, Chair, asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None
heard.
Mark Torpey, Chair, closed the public hearing at 7:01 P.M.
SEQRA:
The proposed project is an Unlisted Action. Part I of the Short EAF has been submitted as is
accurate. Planning Board appears to be the only involved agency.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated the Board will review Part II of the Short SEQRA form.
SEQRA DECISION :
Ruth Horton stated based upon the information provided by the applicant in Part I of the SEQR
Short Environmental Assessment Form, and analysis of the information provided and presented in
Part II of the SEQR Short Environmental Assessment Form, I make a motion for a SEQR negative
declaration since the project will not result in any large and important impacts and, therefore, is one
that will not have a significant adverse impact on the environment. Kerry Mayo seconded the
motion.
Mark Torpey, Chair, asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
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Mark Torpey, Chair, in favor; Ruth Horton, in favor; Kerry Mayo, in favor; Jason Doty, in favor; Al
DalPos, in favor
MOTION PASSES : 5-0
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated we will now move onto the subdivision portion of the application. There
are no specific requirements here. No city departmental comments.
Jason Doty made a motion in the matter of the application of the 25 Lake Avenue/38 High Rock
Avenue, two lot subdivision at 25 Lake Avenue/38 High Rock Avenue be approved as presented. Al
DalPos seconded the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chair, asked if there was any further discussion. None heard,
VOTE:
Mark Torpey, Chair, in favor; Ruth Horton, in favor; Kerry Mayo, in favor; Jason Doty, in favor; Al
DalPos, in favor
MOTION PASSES : 5-0
7:03 P.M. The Board Recessed.
7:10 P.M. The Board Reconvened.
5. #20210924 74 MITCHELL SITE PLAN, 74 Mitchell Street, Site Plan Review for a
private club/recreation area that includes a member pool and cabana and associated
site work in the Urban Residential -3 (UR-3) District.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated this is an application for a Site Plan Review for a private club/recreation
area. The Planning Board has reviewed this project on multiple occasions to date and provided the
following background information.
BACKGROUND:
-The Planning Board considered on June 24, 2021, a sketch plan review of a residential subdivision
including
Reconfiguration of existing lots resulting in 8 lots in the Urban Residential-3 (UR-3) District.
-Lot line adjustment approved administratively on September 3,2021.
-Planning Board issues a SEQRA Negative Declaration on October 28, 2021.
-Planning Board approved a two-lot subdivision and issued a Special Use Permit for a private
club/civic club on
October 28, 2021.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated the applicant will provide a visual overview of the project for Board as
well as the considerable number of members of the audience interested in this application.
Applicant: Jay Hanley, Builder/Owner
Agent: Mike Ingersoll, Matt Brobston, LA Group; Matthew Jones, Attorney – Jones Stieves
Mr. Jones stated this project has been before the Board on prior occasions as noted by the Chair,
receiving approvals for a Lot Line Adjustment, Sketch Plan Review, Special Use Permit and tonight
the applicant is looking for Site Plan Approval for a project located off Union Avenue, Snyder Lane,
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and Mitchell Street. The Saratoga County Planning Board referral has indicated no significant
countywide or intercommunity impact. The issue before the Board this evening is Site Plan review
for a project located at 74 Mitchell Street and is the private club/recreation area proposed for this
project which include the pool and the cabana.
Mr. Ingersoll provided a visual of the project site and parcels and the existing conditions totaling
.217 acres which includes 4 lots on Union Avenue and 3 lots on Mitchell Street. One amenity parcel
which the applicant is looking to create a pool and a small club cabana for the future homeowners.
Visual views of the amenity space were provided for the Board noting all approvals have been
granted. A Site Plan Review is required for the private/civic club which is an open-air
pavilion/cabana about 1,000 sq. ft. in size. The concept being proposed and in this area was
provided for the Boards review from different views as well as the ability for residents to access the
pool and residences via a common alley or pathway. Security fencing for the residents in the area
will be provided. The curb cuts along Union will be removed so the access will be off the rear.
Sidewalks will be installed on Mitchell Street and Union Avenue. A visual of the amenity area layout
plan was provided to the Board. A utility plan was provided. There is no storm water infrastructure
on Snyder Lane but what is being proposed with the civic space and landscaping would manage
that issue. A visual rendering of the pool and private civic club was provided. Mr. Ingersoll spoke to
offsite streetscape design and provided examples of the type of stone proposed for the wall area
surrounding the pool/cabana/clubhouse. He also introduced to the Board a new permeable
pavement which is proposed for this area. Snyder Lane will remain a public access alley and will be
widened to a width of 20 ft. to include pedestrian walkways on both sides of the drive lanes.
Comments from Public Safety were received noting the 20 ft. width of the roadway is acceptable
which will allow for two-way traffic, and snow storage as well. Comments were also received from
Department of Public Works and their recommendations will be adhered to. We have no objections
to these comments and will be included in the final Site Plan. There is a section of the corner of
Union and East Avenue which will be deeded as greenspace following legal logistic for the site
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated there is no requirement for the applicant to provide civic space for this
project. The applicant has agreed to add this civic space because it punctuates the corner by the
track and adds to the track development. Should this acquisition not occur Stewarts will continue to
own that property, and the applicant will return before this Board for a modification of the Special
Use Permit. The Planning Board does not have purview over the type of homes to be built that
comes under the authority of the DRC.
Mark Torpey, Chair, asked if there were any questions or comments from the Board. None heard.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated normally for a site plan we do not have a public hearing it is not
required. However, there are people who wish to comment on this application. The Chair will allow
for comments, keeping in mind
the purview of the Board.
PUBLIC COMMENT:
Adam Fitch, 8 Cider mill Way, Saratoga Springs. Mr. Fitch stated he is a long-time business owner
in Saratoga Springs and for the last 7 years he and his brothers are the owners of Kings Tavern.
Our customers and patrons are family and
we are community oriented. Our concerns with this project are our deliveries which most times are
18 wheelers and will present a problem. We have parked cars on this vacant lot for the last 5 years
in a contract with Stewarts. Parking and deliveries are a real issue for our small family-owned
business. We live and feed our families off Kings’ Tavern. This project is being built by a builder
who does not even live in Saratoga. They are from Nantucket. Saratoga is a fantasy fun land for
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people who do not live here year around, come to enjoy the track, have millions of dollars, and do
not care about the community. If this project does move forward, we would like to have the ability to
have a loading zone on Union Avenue. Restricting deliveries to certain hours is impossible
especially following the pandemic.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated a portion of the alley is being widened to a width of 20 ft. with this
project but Snyder Alley is still accessible for the public and would not change with this project.
There may be additional benefit widening the entire width of the alley as opposed to how it exists
currently. We have been collaborating with the applicant to avoid a gated community atmosphere,
to have it more accessible to the public, as well as with DPW.
Discussion ensued among the Board regarding Snyder Lane, the accessibility currently, what is
being proposed and the impacts on the residents whose properties abut Snyder Lane.
Mark Torpey, Chair, questioned staff if DPW been consulted regarding providing the continuous 20
ft. width to extend beyond this project.
Susan Barden, Principal Planner stated she was unsure if they were asked. The plan that they
reviewed was the portion of the alley which abuts the lots that front on Mitchell. This would be an
opportunity to extend the alley all the way down so that it is consistent in its entirety. We can
provide the information for them to review.
James Bennington, 20 Hillside Avenue, Saratoga Springs. As a patron of Kings’ Tavern, we park in
the Stewart’s lot.
If the parking is limited, it will impact the taverns business.
James Morrill, Saratoga Springs resident. Somehow, someway a compromise must be made. Let
us hope we can grow responsibly and work together to help a small business owner as well as the
future development of the area.
Chris Stewart, Saratoga Springs Fire Department. I participate in the charitable work with the
firefighters. Kings Tavern contributes about $65,000 a year in charitable contributions.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated what he is looking for is additional information regarding DPW’s
thoughts in terms of broadening Snyder Lane making it consistent all the way, making it more
beneficial for all property owners along the alley. This would be a win, win for everyone. I would like
to obtain DPW’s opinion prior to deciding. Regarding Stewart’s parcel, it is outside our control.
Ruth Horton questioned if Stewart’s or the applicant or the new owner accept this issue regarding
parking for this small business owner be addressed.
Mr. Jones stated they have been in discussions. Construction will not commence for months. We
are not in immediate need for the use of the parcel which Kings Tavern uses for parking. This lease
can be terminated with 30 days’ notice. The applicant would continue the lease for parking. The
pinch point for the lane behind Kings’ and we do not propose to do anything in this area. A
discussion with DPW to see if an action can be taken on the remainder of Snyder Lane is worth
pursuing. We are willing to work regarding both areas of concern and makes sense for us to do it.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated his feeling in deferring a decision would provide the Board an
opportunity if DPW is interested in pursuing this.
Kerry Mayo questioned what the parking situation is on East Avenue. Would the city consider
providing double sided parking on East Avenue?
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Mark Torpey, Chair, stated parking regulations are beyond our purview. The Chair does not feel
comfortable voting on this application this evening. We will hold off deciding on this application until
our next meeting scheduled for December 9th.
6. #20210755 269 BROADWAY SITE PLAN, 269 Broadway, Site Plan review of a six-
story multi-tenant commercial building and associate site work in the Transect-6 Urban
Core (T-6) District.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated application has appeared before the Board previously and provided the
following background information.
BACKGROUND:
-Sketch plan discussion on April 8, 2021.
-The Planning Board discussed SEQRA review on July 15, 2021, then adjourned the application.
Discussion included
request for an Advisory Opinion from the DRC (suggested a balloon float), change in the civic
space/amenities,
ventilation from the building, DPS/DPW review the traffic study.
-Site Plan application including updated traffic study and geotechnical report; DRC Advisory
Opinion also provided on
August 4, 2021.
-Recent submission, November 17, 2021, includes revised FEAF Part I, parking study, response to
DPS comments,
Revised layout plan.
-Saratoga County Planning Board reviewed application – referral response received on October 8,
2021, No Significant
Countywide or Intercommunity Impact with comment.
Applicant: 269 Broadway, LLC
Agent: Mike Toohey, Attorney; Mike Roman, Architect – C2 Design Group, Walt Whitman, MJ
Engineering;
Chad Snyder, Traffic Engineer
Mr. Toohey provided a visual of the proposed building as allowed per all the zoning regulations. We
have previously provided to the Board studies regarding Mass and Scale. This property is unique
as it has 10,000 sq. ft. to the north of it that will not be constructed upon and will remain as it
currently exists. It has 30% of its project site which is not being developed. We completed a drone
analysis completed regarding the scale of the building and the scale of the building will be like the
condominiums and other building in this section of the city. One of the concerns voiced were
parking and traffic. We have spoken with the city and experts in this field. We have also made
modifications to the building regarding DRC comments concerning access to the building and the
front of the building.
Mr. Whitman provided a visual and reviewed the project information. A permanent easement has
been obtained from the Diocese of Albany so that we can use and utilize the 38ft. to the south of
the building. We cannot place a structure on the land, but we are attempting to increase the
footprint of the property so that the mass and scale of the building fits better on the land we are
proposing. This additional property will now add an additional 10,085 square feet. This means the
width of the property has been increased. The total combined lot size is 32,750 square feet. This
allows us to have a significant amount of public space. There will be no parking spaces on the site
to be used by St. Peter’s but there will be sidewalks and green space from Broadway to Hamilton
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Street. This will also provide a pedestrian portal, allowing pedestrian traffic from the west of
Hamilton Street onto Broadway. What we have attempted to do is introduce space for public
access and additional civic space. Our current utilization of the land is significantly less than the
neighbor across the street. Mr. Whitman also provided a visual of the building plans and design
considerations, noting the primary entranceway is off Broadway. The secondary access will be on
the south side with an ADA ramp in this location as well as the cross connectivity. The traffic study
was performed during the pandemic. DOT issued a memo during that time to guide design in
August of 2020. This was the basis of our traffic counts. We performed our counts in May of 2021 in
the prime AM and PM hours, averaged those volume counts and compared them to the historical
data we had in 2019. In doing so he average AM peak factor is 1.73 and the PM peak factor is 1.76.
They are close. We determined the 1.75 for our analysis. No comments from Chazen or DPS. This
analysis provided us with modifications to help mitigate this for the site. We will direct traffic from
out of our site to the north with signage noting no left turn. Pavement markings are also proposed.
In the loading area to provide the 20 ft. requirement distance from the crosswalk, pavement
markings indicate a loading zone. Road improvements proposed at the intersection of Hamilton
and West Circular a right hand turn only lane will be added. Hamilton and Congress intersection
will be a signal timing change. We also reviewed the parking analysis.
Mr. Roman, Architect spoke of the changes incorporated into the design since the last appearance
before the Board and address the DRC comments. Mr. Roman reviewed the building design noting
the change in the front elevation ground floor is at grade with Broadway. We are bringing in
punched windows, the metal pane and introducing more brick. The front top portion is pushed back
about 8 ft. This allows the columns to come up and the roof
edge which is held back and defines the roof. As you walk into the space you will be taken down
into the retail area, or into the main lobby which will take you to the upper floors. This entrance will
also be ADA accessible. We have maintained the outdoor seating at the second-floor level. Mr.
Roman provided views of all elevations. Nothing has changed with the civic space. We have
simplified the glass to provide more transparency. These revisions were submitted to Amanda
today and addresses the comments of the DRC regarding the main entry having more presence on
Broadway. This change is one of the bigger concerns of the DRC.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated we have received feedback from DPW. All the issues DPW raised have
been addressed.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated we will allow for a short public comment period.
Carol Obloy, 268 Broadway. The presence of this building only exacerbates the traffic and parking
issues which currently exist on Broadway and Hamilton Streets. These are two lane roadways with
parking on both sides. This building will make a tough situation worse. Mass and scale are a major
issue with this building.
Kathleen Sonnabend, 268 Broadway. Clough Harbor has questions which have not yet been
addressed. They are genuinely concerned regarding parking and the traffic issue. They have not
included Broadway in their traffic study. She is concerned regarding the school buses, the aquifer,
and the water table. This building is too big for the site, for the traffic and the parking.
Dr. Robert Sponzo, 268 Broadway. His main concern is regarding traffic, and the turning radius
onto Hamilton St.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated the Board will now move through Part II of the Long EAF for SEQRA for
the project.
The applicant has submitted Part I of the Long EAF, it has been revised and resubmitted, reviewed,
and accurate.
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SEQRA:
-Action appears to be a Type I action – property located within a historic district.
-Part I of the Long EAF has been submitted – revised Part I submitted October 8, 2021.
-DRC identified as only other involved agency.
-DRC deferred Lead Agency Status to the Planning Board on September 2, 2021.
-Traffic impact study issued May 27th and revised September 10.
-SHPO letter – historic and cultural resources.
-DRC Advisory Opinion provided on August 30, 2021.
SEQRA DECISION:
Ruth Horton stated based upon the information provided by the applicant in Part I of the SEQR Full
Environmental Assessment Form, and analysis of the information provided and presented in Part II
of the SEQR Full Environmental Assessment Form, I make a motion for a SEQR negative
declaration since the project will not result in any large and important impacts and, therefore, is one
that will not have a significant adverse impact on the environment.
Kerry Mayo seconded the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chair, asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Mark Torpey, Chair, in favor; Ruth Horton, in favor; Kerry Mayo, in favor; Jason Doty, in favor; Al
DalPos, in favor
MOTION PASSES : 5-0
7. #2020757 MYRTLE STREET SITE PLAN, Corner of Myrtle Street and Morgan St., 1
Morgan Street and 55 Myrtle Street, Discussion: Advisory Opinion and design revision
update pertaining to coordinated SEQRA Review for a phased project totaling 105,000
sq. ft. medical office use and associate site work in the Urban Residential-3 (UR-3)
District.
Mark Torpey, Chair stated there will be no vote taken this evening. We will be providing the
applicant with guidance. It is intended to provide feedback to the applicant on what the Board would
like to see at the next meeting.
This application was before the Planning Board on September 30, 2021, for coordination of SEQRA
review and request to function as Lead Agent. The Planning Board Requested an Advisory Opinion
from the DRC regarding compatibility with community character and project design standpoint. The
Planning Board also requested the DRC provide guidance on a commercial building design that
respects the residential character of the neighborhood.
Agent: Matthew Jones, Attorney; Matt Brobston, LA Group; Kevin Ronayne, Vice President
Operations & Facilities –
Saratoga Hospital; Jon Primeau, Architect, Architectural Collaborative
Mr. Jones provided a visual of the proposed project, which was previously presented to the Board.
As requested by the Planning Board the applicant appeared before the DRC for an Advisory
Opinion. The DRC noted they feel indifferent about the two design options for the roof screening.
The question of the roof screening versus gabled roof is inconsequential in terms of overall
compatibility with the neighborhood and community character. The two options presented to the
DRC showing varying setbacks and length of the screening would make a minimal difference to the
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compatibility to the neighborhood. A traditional or gabled mansard roof would be a more
appropriate roof line versus what has been presented. at along with a proposed green roof.
Mr. Brobston images of the from the adjacent neighborhood and noted the similar character this
building is trying to emulate on the building. An aerial view of the project taken from the drone
showing the Birch Run Subdivision and adjoining neighborhood. . Parking that is required is
around those buildings as previously presented. Utilities for this phase and future Outside of the
apartment complex there are single-family homes and the hospital which are visible. Mr. Brobston
provided elevation drawings which have not changed. There were questions regarding the second
phase of the project and a schematic drawing provided the area included in Phase II - two
additional buildings up to 30,000 sq. ft. as their location was provided. Additional phases were also
questioned and a visual of the utility connections and modifications were provided. Storm water
systems were analyzed and designed to accommodate the design. Mr. Brobston also provided a
visual of the streetscape improvements extending sidewalks down Myrtle and along Morgan
Streets. Coming off Morgan and Myrtle there is a new proposed three way stop intersection. It is
currently an unregulated intersection. We will be adding concrete curbing along Morgan and Myrtle.
Sanitary sewer and storm main extensions along Myrtle are proposed. A visual of these plans were
provided to the Board and reviewed. Water main extensions were reviewed as well. We have
attempted to save the larger trees on the site, increasing the buffering and increasing the existing
berm and increasing the landscape buffering on the berm provides as well as buffering to the
neighbors.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated traffic is an issue and we would like to review that at the next meeting,
along with curbing and proposed. Transportation is issue in the SEQRA we would like more data
and information to understand all aspects of the improvement in this important corridor. The Chair
noted he would like to have the traffic engineer at the next meeting along with the city’s engineer
Chazen here to provide feedback.
Susan Barden, Principal Planner stated they did provide a response and is in the Boards materials.
Mr. Brobston stated Chazen did have questions which were answered and there are no further
comments from them regarding traffic.
Mark Torpey, Chair asked if DPS has provided comments.
Susan Barden, Principal Planner stated the deferred to the City’s designated engineer.
Mr. Brobston stated Mark Naldony, Creighton Manning can attend the meeting and provide and
review their report and review Chazen’s comments.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated for the applicant to provide further information regarding the community
character. This is something which the Board will be considering whether this project fits within the
acceptable definition. For the next meeting we will review traffic and community character and
compatibility. We should simply focus on that and hope to come to an acceptable understanding
and a decision.
Susan Barden, Principal Planner stated keep in mind that the SEQRA analysis is for all phases of
the development. The Board may wish for more information regarding the other Phases since
SEQRA will encompass the entire buildout.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated we will take comments.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
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Claudia Braymer, Braymer Law representing Alice Smith and other neighbors. We very much agree
that two of the main concerns are traffic and the community character. We are asking that the
Board issue a positive declaration and require a full environmental impact statement. This will
require the applicant to go through and provide the Board with alternative designs and to develop
all the mitigation necessary to mitigate the impacts of this project. She urged the Board members to
review the DRC meeting. The building is far too big.
APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES:
Jason Doty made a motion to approve the minutes of two Joint Board Meetings with the DRC on
April 8, 2021, and
April 22, 2021, and approval of the September 30th and October 28th Planning Board Meeting
Minutes. Ruth Horton seconded the motion.
VOTE:
Mark Torpey, Chair, in favor; Ruth Horton, in favor; Kerry Mayo, in favor; Jason Doty, in favor; Al
DalPos, in favor
MOTION PASSES : 5-0
UPCOMING MEETINGS:
Planning Board Workshop, Thursday, December 2, 2021, at 5:00 P.M.
Planning Board Meeting, Thursday, December 9, 2021, at 6:00 PM.
MOTION TO ADJOURN:
There being no further business to discuss Mark Torpey, Chair adjourned the meeting at 10:12
P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Diane M. Buzanowski
Recording Secretary
Approved: February 9, 2022
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Agenda
PB Board Members
City of Saratoga Springs Mark Torpey (Chair)
PLANNING BOARD Kerry Mayo
Ruth Horton
City Hall • 474 Broadway
Todd Fabozzi
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866
518.587.3550 Jason Doty
Shawna Jenks (alternate)
www.saratoga-springs.org
Alfred Dal Pos
Christopher Pipia (alternate)
NOTE: This meeting is being held in person at City Hall
• To view the webcast live, or once recorded, go to www.saratoga-springs.org.
• To participate or provide input during the meeting, enter the ramp door at City Hall. The door is unlocked
1/2 hour prior to meeting start time and locks again 1 hour after meeting start time.
• Comments may be submitted up to 12PM on the day of the meeting using the Public Comment form
on the Planning Department page.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING AGENDA
Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 6:00 p.m.
Salute the Flag
Roll Call
1. Approval of Meeting Minutes
2. Possible Consent Agenda Items
Note: The intent of a consent agenda is to identify any applications that appear to be ‘approvable’ without need for further evaluation or discussion. If anyone wishes to further discuss any
proposed consent agenda item, then that item would be pulled from the ‘consent agenda’ and dealt with individually.
Agenda
Project # Project Project Location Project Description
Order
3. PB Applications Under Consideration - NOTE: Agenda item discussion will not begin past 10:00 p.m.
Agenda
Project # Project Project Location Project Description
Order
20200805 Saxton Subdivision 34 Glenmore Ave Final plat review of a proposed two-lot subdivision to provide for one new single-family
1 residential lot in the Urban Residential (UR-2) district.
2 20210307 Thornton Final Subdivison 215 Grand Ave Final plat review of a two-lot subdivision in the Urban Residential - 2 (UR-2) district.
20211113 Smiley-Brackett Cottage 166 Excelsior Consideration of an advisory opinion to the City Council for a zoning text amendment to
3 add the property to the list of City Landmarks in 7.4.18.
20210932 25 Lake/ 38 High Rock Ave 25 Lake Ave/ 38 High Final plat review of a two-lot subdivision in the Transect-6 Urban Core district.
4 Subdivision Rock Ave
20211077 74 Mitchell Site Plan 74 Mitchell Street Site plan review for a private club/recreation area that includes a member pool and
5 cabana and associated site work in the Urban Residential - 3 district (UR-3).
20210755 269 Broadway Site Plan 269 Broadway Site plan review of a six-story multi-tenant commercial building and associated site work
6 in the Transect - 6 Urban Core (T-6) district.
20210757 Myrtle Street Site Plan Corner of Myrtle Street Discussion: DRC advisory opinion and design revision update pertaining to coordinated
and Morgan St, 1 SEQRA review for a phased project totaling 105,000 sq. ft. medical office use and
Morgan St. and 55 associated site work in the Office Medical Business - 2 (OMB-2) and Urban Residential -1
7 Myrtle St. (UR-1) districts.
4. Upcoming Meetings
November 18, 2021 (workshop - November 15, 5:00 p.m.)
December 9, 2021 (workshop - December 2, 5:00 p.m.)
GENERAL MEETING GUIDELINES
The Planning Board reviews a wide variety of applications and its primary responsibilities include four land development decisions including New York State Environmental Quality Review
(SEQR), Special Use Permit (SUP), Site Plan (SP) and Subdivision (SD).
The rules regarding public input depends on the type of application before the Planning Board.
SEQR and SP: The Planning Board reserves the right to allow public comment as deemed necessary. The total duration for all public comments should not exceed fifteen (15) minutes with each
individual speaker limited to a total of two (2) minutes.
SUP and SD: The Planning Board is required to conduct a public hearing with proper notice to all neighbors residing within 250 feet of the project. Each individual speaker will be limited to a total
of three (3) minutes.
For all applications: Speakers providing public input will be timed to ensure compliance. Applicants’ initial presentation to the Board will be limited to 15 minutes.
Planning Board members are volunteers appointed by the Mayor to serve seven-year terms. Each member has a single vote and a quorum (4 or more members) is required to vote on an
application.
Note: This agenda is subject to change. Please check the website for latest version.
GENERAL GUIDELINES FOR SPEAKERS
• All meetings are video recorded and webcast; please provide public input in a respectful manner.
• Public input will occur after the Applicant has presented the project to the Planning Board.
• Speak clearly into the microphone and state your name and address.
• Speakers will be timed – two (2) minute limit for public comment and three (3) minute limit for public hearing. Be concise, it’s OK to speak for less than the time limit.
• Individuals may not donate their allotted time to other speakers.
• Face the Planning Board at all times, do not engage in direct discussions with the audience.
• Do not repeat points made by previous speakers.
• No laughing, heckling, speaking or clapping from the audience.
• Comments to the Board should specifically relate to the application under consideration and be directly relevant to the evaluation criteria.
• It is best to identify a designated speaker to summarize comments from multiple individuals.
• Written comments will be distributed to the Board and made part of the public record.
• Please note that the Planning Board has no jurisdiction over code enforcement.
• The Planning Board appreciates meaningful and thoughtful input from the community.
To learn more about the application review process, please contact the City Planning Department. Susan Barden: 518-587-3550 x2493 susan.barden@saratoga-springs.org
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