Planning Board
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · September 15, 2022
Minutes
PLANNING BOARD
MINUTES ( FINAL)
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 15, 2022
6:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALL TO ORDER : Mark Torpey, Chair, called the meeting to order at 6:05 P.M.
SALUTE TO THE FLAG:
PRESENT : Mark Torpey, Chair; Kerry Mayo; Todd Fabozzi; Bill McTygue;
Mark Pingel via videoconference
ABSENT : Ruth Horton; Chuck Marshall
STAFF: Susan Barden, Principal Planner, City of Saratoga Springs
Leah Everhart, Counsel to the Land Use Boards – arrived at 6:30 P.M.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF RECORDING OF PROCEEDING:
The proceedings of this meeting are being recorded for the benefit of the secretary. Because the
minutes are not a verbatim record of the proceedings, the minutes are not a word-for-word
transcript of the recording.
A. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES:
Approval of meeting minutes was deferred to the end of the meeting.
B. POSSIBLE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS:
NOTE: The intent of a consent agenda is to identify any application that appear to be “approvable”
without need
for further evaluation or discussion. If anyone wished to further discuss any proposed
consent agenda
item, then that item would be pulled from the “consent agenda” and dealt with individually.
** NONE AT THIS TIME**
C. APPLICATIONS UNDER CONSIDERATION:
1. #20220765 504 BROADWAY SKETCH PLAN, 504 Broadway, sketch plan for a
proposed mixed-use
project to include approximately 4,000 sq. ft. of non-residential space and 112
residential units
in the Urban Core (T-6) District.
Mark Torey, Chair, stated this is a sketch plan review of this project. It provides an opportunity for
the Board to learn about the project, see what is being proposed and provide an opportunity for the
Board to ask questions and review this project for the first time.
Applicant: The Algonquin, LLC
Agent: Mike Ingersoll, LA Group; Matt Hurff, Frost Hurff Architects
Mr. Ingersoll provided a visual of the property, which is located at 504 Broadway, now owned by
the Algonquin and is currently a parking lot for about 47 vehicles. This is an infill project and will be
under the guidelines of the new UDO. There are two parcels one is about 1.22 acres, and the other
is about ¾ of an acre. A full survey was completed for the site. There is about 20 ft. of grade
change from Broadway to Maple Avenue and provides two floors of underground parking access
from the rear. Vehicle access will be closed off from Broadway and an entrance will be on Maple
Avenue. A site statistics chart was provided to the Board, noting building setbacks and the
minimum buildout along the ROW which is 84%. The project is now designated as the Urban Core
designation or (T-6). This district does allow for environmentally sensitive buildings and height
bonuses. Floors above the second floor will be residential. We are proposing 112 residential units
with a mix of 1-, and 2-bedroom units. We are proposing 112 residential. The first floor on
Broadway will be commercial which is a requirement. An aerial view of the overall roof site plan
was reviewed. Along Maple Avenue and Ellsworth Jones is shorter than the other side which allows
for the grade but also allows for the upper units to have balconies and outside usable terraces
along with a livable usable green roof which also helps with storm water management. This
building is built on a green deck with the main floor off Broadway it becomes a user space, a green
space maintaining the historic pedestrian walkway or cut through to Maple Avenue. It will be rebuilt
in conjunction with the Collamer Building. There is an area or opportunity for civic space across
from the parking garage when the area is bumped out and landscaped. There would be an
opportunity for street parking along Maple Avenue as well. There is a small park proposed or public
area.
Matt Hurff, Architect stated what is being proposed is a 6-story building with the 6th floor being
reduced in scale.
As previously noted, we are proposing 112 residential units, with 1, and 2 bedrooms. 150 parking
spaces is our target
provided below level with 5 required ADA spaces and 8 EV charging stations, and 52 spaces for
bicycles. The building will have access both along the corner of Ellsworth Jones and Maple as well
as the plaza level provided access from both sides of the building. 112 residential units, with 73 1
bedroom, 10 studio and 29 2-bedroom apartments. Mr. Hurff
provided a visual of the church which was on this site at one time noting it was very much the size
of the Algonquin.
This is what we are doing by creating these areas on either side of the building off Broadway. Mr.
Hurff provided visuals of all elevations noting the proposed building in relation to the Collamer and
Algonquin buildings to scale.
A visual of the proposed architecture was also provided taking cues off both adjacent buildings to
provide continuity
to the streetscape. The top of the building is very closely related to the top of the Algonquin for
scale. Mr. Hurff also provided a view of the portion of the building which wraps around the rear of
the Algonquin. A close up of the front
façade was provided noting the storefront on the first story with columns and glass to provide
detailing. We wanted
to make each story different with different window patterns and bay windows on the third story to
provide interest and
keep heavier arches on the top. Views of the building from the Collamer building was also provided,
maintaining the pathway to Maple Avenue. We have all the balconies looking out into that space. It
will not be a long dark alley.
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There will be people there and you can see how we are keeping the storefront down the front of the
building. Views of the interior of the courtyard were also provided noting how they are continuing
the language and rhythm of the building through that space. The rear of the building facing Maple
Avenue, will have the same type of detailing with the same type of activities happening on the ends
of the building facing toward the City Center and the Algonquin. To provide relief and variation they
stepped this area back and provided a different type of material. We did not wish to do a massive
wall of brick we are provided variety in this area. Mr. Hurff provided a section cut through the
building noting the access off Broadway coming through and the side of the Algonquin. Views of
the new building noting the entrance to the parking off Maple Avenue extending off that plaza. This
project is still very much in development and could be as shown. We are still discussing the
addition of another level of parking to meet the parking requirements. Mr. Hurff provided
information to the Board on how we established the grade elevations and complying with the
ordinance. Mr. Hurff then explained how the building height was determined. Spot elevations were
taken at each corner of where the building will be. Lengths of the elevations were taken and
determined what the average height was on each one to establish the height.
Mark Torpey, Chair questioned if a height bonus required for the project.
Mr. Ingersoll stated possibly. He provided images of the new building superimposed on the current
site. Massing images were provided for all elevations. We are looking for suggestions and
comments from the Board and if we are headed in the right direction. This project requires
coordinated review since we are in a historic district.
Mark Torpey, Chair, thanked the applicant for the presentation. Considering the size and location of
this proposed project the Chair suggested having a Joint Board Meeting with the DRB so we can
have the benefit of their thoughts rather than in video form and interpreting. The Chair stated his
first reaction to the Maple Avenue pedestrian area was it needs a bit of work since it does present
as the back of the building, and it should have equal prominence of that façade. The civic space is
another area which will need additional attention as well.
Todd Fabozzi stated his first reaction to the civic space this type of alley space with gates does not
present an
inviting space. He sees an opportunity especially following the amount of structure that you are
proposing is to follow the historic form of the Church. To push not only the top floor of the building
back but push the whole building back so that you create a plaza between the Collamer Building
and the Algonquin Building. Following the form of the church
in the front so you have an open space which you can shape into a plaza. The scale of this building
is so overwhelming to a historic structure such as the Algonquin. From an architectural standpoint if
you had considered, now you are looking at the idea of blending the language of the two buildings.
Had you considered using just the language of the Algonquin, making it look like an extension of
the Algonquin. You are respecting that building in its unique sandstone
style and literally and expansion of that same building.
Mr. Hurff stated they can certainly speak to the owner. His initial response is if we are considering
mass then making this a part of the Algonquin will only make this look bigger. You have three
distinct pieces on this block the same size and scale, we are proposing to insert the fourth one in.
He would rather preserve the integrity of the block. It is a missing tooth they would like to put back
in. Perhaps you are responding to the size of the openings on the new building design, and we
could look at that. He would like to keep elements of the Collamer Building since it is important to
have the idea of transition versus one architectural language which is half of the block.
Todd Fabozzi stated if you are concerned about the Collamer Building then as he suggested
pushing back the building
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new building which dominates the Collamer Building and adding the civic space. He strongly
suggests pushing back the new building to the setback of where the church was.
Discussion ensued among the Board regarding civic space requirements and build out
requirements in this district.
Bill McTygue stated as he noted at the workshop his first interest is in the preservation of the
walkway from Broadway to Maple Avenue. Yes, he would expect the future development of the
area adjacent to the parking garage to Lake Avenue, a full build out of the property. He would ask
that the applicants keep in mind the future development in this area.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated there is one of the most beautiful and largest Elm trees in the city which
punctuates that corner. So, any design you produce it would be important not to undermine the root
system of that tree.
Mr. Ingersoll stated he spoke to the City Arborist regarding this tree. We do not own the entire tree.
It has been
growing in an urban development and he is afraid it is something they will have to discuss in the
future.
Mark Pingel stated he seconds Todd’s comments regarding the civic space needing more attention.
He questioned
If the units in this building, going to be full market. Any thought to the units being allocated to
affordable housing, especially if there is a height bonus request.
Mr. Ingersoll stated it is on the table. However, the size of the units with the 1 bedroom, and the
amount of 2’s
it is market driven.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated the height bonus is obtainable in several ways. One is the affordable
housing component,
The other is through enhanced larger civic space and Leed Certification. What he is hearing from
the Board if
a height bonus is required the Board may wish to collaborate with the applicant on how best to
optimize that.
Bill McTygue stated this is an ideal site and exciting things can result here. We want this to fit and
complement the entire Broadway experience on that block. These are just sketches and the first
time we have seen this. He is not only
speaking for this project but for any project that would complete the buildout of Maple Avenue. We
can in working together develop something meaningful for the city.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated in conjunction with what Bill just stated the Maple Avenue façade is
particularly important as well.
And need further treatment to assure that it is part of the landscape and the pedestrian walkway
area to tie it in.
Todd Fabozzi asked if these units were to be privately owned or rental units.
Mr. Ingersoll stated they are rental units.
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Mark Pingel stated they are speaking about underground parking. We did a great deal of research
on 269 Broadway project and as we get into the details it would be important for us to look at the
water table and aquifer.
Mr. Ingersoll stated as he noted at the workshop, we do have the geotechnical reports. Our concern
is less water than bedrock. In this site we are not finding groundwater.
Bill McTygue spoke about parking and the area behind the Algonquin building where spaces are
currently being leased.
Mr. Ingersoll stated there has been a dialog with the City Center regarding reserves and
arrangements which helps.
We are in a zone that does not require parking.
Kerry Mayo suggested that the applicant not focus so much on the aerial view but more of the
pedestrian feel of the
building.
Mark Torpey, Chair, questioned if the civic space area were to be limited to certain hours of the
day. That may be the only civic space in the city that has specific hours. If you are trying to create a
more inviting civic space that is accessible and available that would not be gated certain times
during the day.
Mr. Ingersoll stated there is concern regarding the night life and what happens. There will be
tenants and residents in this area. It is a challenge.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated there will be no public comment period this evening. The Chair
encouraged any public comments be in writing and submitted. There will be additional
appearances before the Board regarding this project and
opportunities to provide public comments.
2. #20220696 125 HIGH ROCK FINAL SUBDIVISION, 125 High Rock Avenue, Final plat
review
of a proposed two-lot subdivision in the Neighborhood Center (T-5) District.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated this application was previously approved back in 2016. It has expired.
Nothing has changed
from the initial review and approval. The only condition of approval which has been met and
provided to the Board was the addition of a 20ft. easement along the Excelsior Avenue property
frontage shall be established allowing for
access to construct and maintain a shared use path.
Applicant: 519 Broadway, LLC
Agent: Mike Ingersoll, LA Group
Mr. Ingersoll provided a visual of the site noting the shared access and easement for parking has
been met.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated we will open public hearing since the subdivision has expired. A
previous SEQRA determination final plat approve was issued on July 14, 2016. It is the same
application. The Chair questioned counsel as to how to proceed.
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Leah Everhart, Counsel stated if it is literally the same application then SEQRA has been
conducted and complied with.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Mark Torpey, Chair opened the public hearing at 7:05 P.M.
Mark Torpey, Chair, asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None
heard.
Mark Torpey, Chair, closed the public hearing at 7:05 P.M.
Bill McTygue made a motion in the matter of the application for the 125 High Rock Subdivision, 125
High Rock Avenue, that the final plat review of a proposed two lot subdivision be approved. Kerry
Mayo seconded the motion.
Leah Everhart, Counsel, stated she understands there was a condition placed on this subdivision
previously for a shared access for the parking area. Any previous condition placed on this approval
should be conditioned here.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated the one condition placed on this subdivision is that the easement be
approved to the satisfaction of the City Attorney and that language should benefit the shared
parking between these two lots.
Also, sufficient ROW for the green belt trail to be extended and has already been completed.
Mark Torpey, Chair, asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Mark Torpey, Chair, in favor; Kerry Mayo, in favor; Todd Fabozzi, in favor; Mark Pingel, in favor; Bill
McTygue, in favor
MOTION PASSES : 5-0
3. #20220086 126 WEST AVENUE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, 126 West Avenue, Special
Use Permit
for a proposed mixed use project including office use and 4 residential units in the
Transer-4 (T-4)
District.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated this is a previously opened application. The Planning Board issued a
SEQRA Negative
Declaration, as well as a Favorable Advisory Opinion to the ZBA on June 9, 2022. The applicant
received requested variances from the ZBA on July 25, 2022, with a note recommending
appropriate light filtering methods to prevent light pollution in the neighboring residential lot. The
public hearing was opened and remains open.
Applicant: B & D Properties, LLC
Agent: Joe Hens, Ingalls & Associates, LLP
Mr. Hens stated the applicant has appeared before ZBA and received the required variances for
the project.
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The ZBA did recommend that appropriate light filtering methods be used to prevent light pollution in
the neighboring residential lot. Also, an additional row of screening will be planted in this area. This
is a mixed-use development. Two story office building with a third-floor studio apartment, and four
townhomes. We are proposing 21 parking spaces, 17
along the edge of the property with one handicap space, and 4 for the townhomes. The
requirement per the code is 20. There is a large area of greenspace at the front of the building
which provides an opportunity for civic space. The city declined to sell the ROW parcel to the
applicant. This will landscaped as a type of pocket park. Currently shown is a bench and flower
beds which will be enhanced. We are also proposing a sidewalk extension that runs along the edge
of the intersection to the end of the property line. Also, we will meet the city’s requirement with the
streetscape elements and street trees. We are currently working on an application to the DRB. We
are making modifications to the elevations. A site plan application to the Planning Board is also
forthcoming. Mr. Hens provided a visual of the buildings providing views of all elevations for the
Board. More details on the materials will be provided with the site plan application and prior to
appearance before the DRB. They are looking for a more modern look for the project.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Mark Torpey, Chair, opened the public hearing at 7:18 P.M.
Mark Torpey, Chair, asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None
heard.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated we spoke at the workshop regarding the notion of having on street
parking on Grand Avenue and that was discussed and suggested because we thought there was a
need for additional parking. The
applicant is providing adequate parking on the site and meets the parking requirement. No on
street parking is needed.
Todd Fabozzi questioned the need for civic space, is there a threshold which needs to be met.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated there is no threshold for civic space with this project to require civic
space. We spoke regarding the required rec fee 5 units at $2,000 each we could as a Board require
the applicant to use those monies to improve the corner ROW. It would need the approval of DPW
and DPS to make this corner nicer and aesthetically pleasing.
Todd Fabozzi questioned with the new UDO including DPW and DPS early on in these discussions
with ROW issues.
Susan Barden, Principal Planner, stated this project does not fall under the new UDO but yes
moving forward.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated the applicant will be returning before the Board with Site Plan Review.
Perhaps having a meeting with DPW and DPW prior to the applicant returning before this Board for
Site Plan would be helpful. Also,
the applicant could be responsible for maintaining this area. The Board can forward a letter to the
Council and DPW, DPS requesting the applicant maintain this public area as a fee in lieu of for rec
fees.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated the only condition at this time for the Special Use Permit would be to
add language
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indicating that lighting should be down facing to prevent light pollution off the property and to shade
the neighbor along Grand Avenue. Proper buffering for trees and landscaping to that neighbor on
Grand Avenue.
Todd Fabozzi questioned if porous pavement is still proposed to be used on site. This can be
managed at Site Plan.
Mark Pingel stated Todd had mentioned at a previous meeting that the applicant had done a nice
job transitioning to the neighborhood with this project. Mr. Hens suggested tonight that the Town
Homes would become more modern. We need to be careful that the transition to the neighborhood
is not too jarring. Now, the design with the dormers and other
architectural details which give it a more neighborhood feel. A completely box type of design that
might not have the same effect on the transition to the neighborhood.
Todd Fabozzi questioned if there is signage proposed for this project or when the applicant returns
before the Board.
Mr. Hens stated this will addressed at Site Plan Review.
Mark Torpey, Chair, closed the public hearing at 7:22 P.M.
Kerry Mayo made a motion in the matter of 126 West Avenue, Special Use Permit, 126 West
Avenue, for a proposed mixed use project including office use and 4 residential units be approved
with the condition as noted by the Chair.
Bill McTygue seconded the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chair, asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Mark Torpey, Chair, in favor; Kerry Mayo, in favor; Todd Fabozzi, in favor; Mark Pingel, in favor; Bill
McTygue, in favor
MOTION PASSES : 5-0
7:35 P.M. The Board recessed.
7:45 P.M. The Board reconvened.
4. #20220679 120 S. BROADWAY SPECIAL USE PERMIT, 120 South Broadway,
Coordinated SEQRA
Review and Special Use Permit for a multi-family residential project including 58
residential units in the
Transect-5 (T-5) District.
5. #20220339 120 S. BROADWAY SITE PLAN REVIEW, 120 South Broadway, Site Plan
review of a multi-family residential project including 58 residential units and associated
site work in the Transect-5 (T-5) District.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated this is a previous opened application which appeared before the Board
on July 14th, 2022.
The Board requested an Advisory Opinion from Complete Streets, and jurisdictional determination
from DEC
pertaining to threatened and endangered species. Mark Torpey, Chair, noted the following:
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SEQRA - this is Type I SEQRA action. A review of Part II of the Full EAF will be required. The
applicant submitted Part I of the EAF which has been reviewed and is accurate.
DEC -We have received information from DEC stated no jurisdiction dated July 25, 2022.
Saratoga County Planning Board – no significant countywide or intercommunity impact with
comment. They
noted the need for a Special Use Permit in the T-5 District and have discussed the project’s aspect
of mixed use
with municipal staff and the applicant’s consultant. We note mixed use in this area of South
Broadway to mean a
mix of types or uses within/throughout the corridor, not specific to anyone building on a parcel in
the corridor.
The proposed residential emphasis of the SUP and site plan is certainly one component of the
corridor mix of hotel, bank, office, retail, and automotive-based businesses.
Applicant: Stephen Ethier
Agent: Brien Ragone, EDP
Mr. Ragone stated the applicant was last before the Board on July 14th. The proposed re-
development will consist of four buildings, two will become 6-unit townhouse style multi-family
dwelling. Each building will be 3 stories in height, six units in each building. There will be a façade
unit along Broadway with a boulevard entrance. Directly down from the boulevard we will provide a
vista of the proposed community center which will be developed and placed adjacent to the existing
gazebo spring. Flanking each side of the community center will be two multi-story buildings
containing 23 units in each building. In total we are proposing 58 units to be developed on the
property. Utilities will connect to municipal sewer and water. Parking will be provided at a minimum
of 1.5 spaces for each unit. The townhouse style units that front on Broadway will have a garage
space and an exterior parking space. In total we have 93 spaces on the property. Along the north
side of the property, we are providing pedestrian connectivity to Zephyr Lane residential area. This
will allow those residents to access the site as well as the sidewalks on South Broadway. We are
proposing a streetscape consistent with Saratoga City Standards. We intersperse 6 street trees
with 4 ornamental streetlights. Since our last appearance before the Board, we have received a
sign off letter from LaBerge Engineering noting they are good with all the revisions and comments.
We have received a letter from DEC stating no jurisdiction and a letter from Saratoga County
Planning Board stating no impacts. We have installed protection fencing for the well and gazebo.
There have been no changes to the site plan or layout since our last appearance before the Board.
Comments were received from Al Flick, and we have no problem addressing and implementing his
suggestions and comments. We have had a review from DPS. We have also received comments
from Complete Streets who have recommended a complete traffic signal,
which needs further discussion with the Board and DOT. A minor change to the entrance lighting. A
triple light on either side of the entrance. In discussion with Al Flick yesterday he indicated that
those triple Sternberg lights were used only in specific areas of the city.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated at the last meeting Board members did mention the suggestion of a
pedestrian crossing. We did obtain information from Complete Streets. They did talk about a traffic
light there but also noted a freestanding beacon like the one on Route 29 would be acceptable.
Andy Krupski, DPS also stated that would be a workable solution in this area. The Chair stated
based on the development in this area there is a need for this for pedestrian safety.
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Bill McTygue stated this residential project, the first of its kind on South Broadway will have an
increase in pedestrian traffic looking to cross South Broadway safely. The corner of Adelphi and
Finley Street would be a natural crossing.
A type of accommodation should be installed there short of a traffic control signal.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated Andy Krupski was adamantly opposed to a traffic signal in this location.
Discussion ensued regarding the cost of the installation of a flashing beacon in this area.
Mark Pingel stated this area of South Broadway will continue to be developed. As it is developed
there will be the need for more accommodations which should be on a step-by-step basis. Here it is
appropriate for a crossing to be managed.
Future developments will be required to provide sidewalks and other types of improvements to
make the city better.
It is logical for a crossing to be implemented here as part of this development.
Mark Torpey, Chair, encouraged the applicant to put this in place as part of the project.
Mr. Ethier stated he understands the amount of traffic in this area would require this. In conjunction
with
his neighbors and a grant they could make this happen. He is all for pedestrian safety.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated, grants do take an inordinate amount of time to pursue. The missing
links program
the city has in place for sidewalk improvements not signalization.
Discussion ensued among the Board, the applicant, and staff regarding grant monies available,
contribution with
neighboring businesses. Possibility of CDTC grant monies for pedestrian improvements, and
Complete Streets might consider this whole segment regarding adding sidewalks with their missing
links money to cover the whole connection from Broadway and Finley.
Mark Torpey, Chair stated it would seem getting this initial piece started sooner rather than later
would get the chain reaction started in this area to ensure pedestrian safety.
Bill McTygue spoke regarding using the triple headed lighting fixture for this project. It is a gateway
to the city and would be a nice way to highlight the new project.
Susan Barden, Principal Planner, provided information to the Board regarding the lighting which
was suggested
for use in the entrance to this project is only for use in the Historic Lighting District. There may be a
triple headed
lighting fixture in use in the city which is not designated for the historic district. She will investigate
and advise.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated the Board will now review SEQRA for the project. Following this review
and determination the applicant will then apply to appear before the DRB and then obtain a
demolition permit.
SEQRA:
The Board reviewed the SEQRA Part II of the Full EAF.
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The Chair noted in #4 of the SEQRA Part II of the FEAF.
Impact on Groundwater – (h) Other impacts – It was noted the project will afford all protections for
the existing
Rosemary Springs. A protection plan will be put in place to ensure compliance with all health and
safety issues
associated with preserving the integrity of that spring.
Mark Pingel stated there is a possibility that the Rosemary Spring maybe contaminated. In a FEAF
you do have to list during construction this must be protected.
Leah Everhart, Counsel to the Land Use Boards stated she is unsure what the concern is regarding
Rosemary Spring.
For the process that Mark just mentioned this is a Type I action so, the Board will have two options
following review of this part. It will be considering any moderate to large impacts and whether those
impacts in addition to being moderate to large significant environmental impacts that prompts the
submission of an Environmental Impact Statement.
That is where in a Type I action the Board can establish mitigation throughout that process. You will
be considering following your review if you issue a Negative or Positive Declaration, this does not
mean you cannot condition your Special Use Permit or Site Plan Approval. You can speak to the
applicant at this stage and see if there are mitigation measures the applicant is willing to implement
and they could amend the application verbally tonight so that you could reach a different conclusion
in your SEQRA review.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated he does not feel this requires a Positive Declaration.
Mr. Ethier spoke regarding Rosemary Springs and his concern for its preservation. Proper
mitigation efforts
are proposed and will be implemented to protect the quality of the Springs.
Todd Fabozzi questioned the process if SEQRA should be done following the issuance of a Special
Use Permit
with conditions that ameliorate a potential impact that we can say there will be no impact because
we put these
conditions in place to mitigate the impact. We are doing this after the fact.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated since the Board can implement conditions for the protection of the
Springs in the
Site Plan Review and Special Use Permit he feels comfortable handling it this manner versus
SEQRA.
SEQRA DECISION:
Bill McTygue stated based upon the information provided by the applicant in Part I of the SEQR
Full Environmental Assessment Form, and analysis of the information provided and presented in
Part II of the SEQR Full Environmental Assessment Form, I make a motion for a SEQR negative
declaration since the project will not result in any large and important impacts and, therefore, is one
that will not have a significant adverse impact on the environment.
Kerry Mayo seconded the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chair, asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
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VOTE:
Mark Torpey, Chair, in favor; Kerry Mayo, in favor; Todd Fabozzi, in favor; Mark Pingel, in favor; Bill
McTygue, in favor
MOTION PASSES : 5-0
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated we will now proceed with Special Use Permit. We will hold off on Site
Plan Review for another meeting.
Mark Torpey, Chair, asked if there were any questions or comments regarding the Special Use
Permit.
Mark Torpey, Chair, asked if the civic space area in front of the community center and courtyard
area would be open to the public.
Mr. Ethier stated the civic space has not yet been completely designed at this time, but it will be
open to the public.
Mark Torpey, Chair stated this detail can be further discussed at Site Plan.
Mark Pingel questioned the type of trees proposed for the streetscape will continue the streetscape
along the property frontage.
Mr. Ragone stated the City Arborist has reviewed the streetscape plans. The trees which were
chosen were to accommodate the power lines overhead.
Susan Barden, Principal Planner stated following the workshop she sent the landscape plan over to
Steve Lashomb
The City Arborist to review. He was satisfied with the proposed plantings choices.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated looking at this project within the T-6 District which speaks of the
residential and commercial. This is a pure residential but mixed in with commercial activities there
is no definitive requirement that this meet
all aspects of residential and commercial mixed use. From the Special Use Permit perspective in
reviewing the project in total, with the civic space provided and the preservation of the historical
element with the Spring and the pedestrian layout, the Chair feels comfortable moving forward with
the Special Use Permit.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated when the applicant next appears before the Board regarding Site Plan
Review, we would like to see the pedestrian beacon/crosswalk laid out. Additional lighting
alternatives with a proposal and street trees as designations as discussed, this evening.
Preservation of Rosemary Spring and gazebo area, with additional detail at Site Plan that the
public has access to the civic space area in the center of the project.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Mark Torpey, Chair, opened the public hearing at 8:58 P.M.
Mark Torpey, Chair, asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None
heard.
Mark Torpey, Chair, closed the public hearing at 8:58 P.M.
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Kerry Mayo made a motion in the matter of the application 120 South Broadway Special Use
Permit; 120 South Broadway be approved with the conditions as noted by the Chair. Todd Fabozzi
seconded the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chair asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Mark Torpey, Chair, in favor; Kerry Mayo, in favor; Todd Fabozzi, in favor; Mark Pingel, in favor; Bill
McTygue, in favor
MOTION PASSES : 5-0
NOTE:
Board member Mark Pingel exited the meeting at 9:00 P.M.
6. #20220414 CHLOE ’S WAY SUBDIVISION MODIFICATION, Chloe’s Way,
Modification of a previously
approved subdivision to alter the required no-cut buffer areas for the remaining
undeveloped lots.
Mark Torpey, Chair, stated the application is to alter the no-cut buffer areas which was 25 ft. and
taken down to
10ft. Ten of the lots have been sold that have a smaller approved no-cut buffer based on a
subsequent Planning Board approval back in 2017. Twenty lots are remaining, and the request is to
look at a different no cut buffer for those remaining lots.
Applicant: Chloe’s Way, LLC – Steve Ethier
Agent: Brien Ragone, EDP
Mr. Ethier explained the lots which border Spa State Park, lots 12R to 18R – the 25ft. no cut buffer
coincides
with the 25ft. wide permanent ROW and utility easement. This no cut buffer was instituted to avoid
a complete a full SEQRA analysis. Mr. Ethier stated he sold the ten lots in question to Peter
Belmonte and at that time he did go into the no cut buffer. There is nothing worth saving just
vegetation and trees. It really needs to be cleaned up.
Todd Fabozzi questioned if the applicant could indicate on the site plan where the easement is
located, what has been cut and the no cut buffer which currently exists.
Mr. Ethier provided a visual of the areas in discussion for the Boards information and review and
noted that
a SWPPP has since been performed on the property.
Mark Torpey, Chair, questioned Mr. Ragone regarding specifics for a no-cut buffer with a SWPPP.
Mr. Ragone would like to do away with the no cut buffer since storm water management has been
installed on the site.
It will mitigate the removal of the trees on the site.
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Mark Torpey, Chair, stated he would like to have the City Engineer review this. We will table the
application this evening
until we receive the requested information. This should be noticed to keep the other neighbors
informed.
APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES:
Mark Torpey, Chair, made a motion to approve the minutes of the May 26th, June 9th, July 14th,
July 28th and
August 11th Planning Board Meetings as submitted. Todd Fabozzi seconded the motion.
Mark Torpey, Chair asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Mark Torpey, Chair, in favor; Kerry Mayo, in favor; Todd Fabozzi, in favor; Bill McTygue, in favor
MOTION PASSES : 4-0
UPCOMING MEETINGS:
Planning Board Workshop, Thursday, September 22, 2022.
Planning Board Meeting, Thursday, September 29, 2022.
MOTION TO ADJOURN:
There being no further business to discuss Mark Torpey, Chair adjourned the meeting at 9:17 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Diane M. Buzanowski
Recording Secretary
Minutes approved October 13, 2022
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Agenda
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PB Members
City of Saratoga Springs Mark Torpey (Chair)
PLANNING BOARD Kerry Mayo
Charles (Chuck) Marshall
City Hall • 474 Broadway
Ruth Horton
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Todd Fabozzi
Shawna Jenks (Alternate)
518.587.3550
Mark Pingel
William J. McTygue
Open (Alternate)
PLEASE NOTE:
The Planning Board meeting will be held in-person in the City Council room in City Hall
M. Pingel will be attending the meeting by videoconference from a private location
• To view the webcast live or once recorded, go to www.saratoga-springs.org.
• Comments may be submitted up to 12PM on the day of the meeting using the Public Comment form
on the Planning Department page.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING AGENDA
Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 6:00 p.m.
Salute the Flag
Roll Call
1. Approval of Meeting Minutes
2. Possible Consent Agenda Items
Note: The intent of a consent agenda is to identify any applications that appear to be ‘approvable’ without need for further evaluation or discussion. If anyone wishes to further discuss any
proposed consent agenda item, then that item would be pulled from the ‘consent agenda’ and dealt with individually.
Agenda
Project # Project Project Location Project Description
Order
3. PB Applications Under Consideration - NOTE: Agenda item discussion will not begin past 10:00 p.m.
Agenda
Project # Project Project Location Project Description
Order
1 20220765 504 Broadway Sketch Plan 504 Broadway Sketch site plan for a proposed mixed-use project to include approximately 4,000 sq. ft.
non-residential space and 112 residential units in the Urban Core (T-6) District.
2 20220696 125 High Rock Final 125 High Rock Ave. Final plat review of a proposed two-lot subdivision in the Neighborhood Center (T-5)
Subdivision District.
3 20220086 126 West Special Use Permit 126 West Ave. Special Use Permit for a proposed mixed-use project including office use and 4
residential units in the Transect - 4 (T-4) district.
4 20220679 120 S. Broadway Special 120 S. Broadway Coordinated SEQRA review and special use permit for a multi-family residential project
Use Permit including 58 residential units in the Transect - 5 (T-5) district.
5 20220339 120 S. Broadway Site Plan 120 S. Broadway Site plan review of a proposed multi-family residential project (58-units) and associated
Review site work in the Transect - 5 (T-5) district.
6 20220414 Chloe's Way Subdivision Chloe's Way Modification of a previously approved subdivision to alter the required no-cut buffer areas
Modification for the remaining undeveloped lots.
4. Upcoming Meetings
September 15 (workshop - September 8)
September 29 (workshop - September 22)
GENERAL MEETING GUIDELINES
The Planning Board reviews a wide variety of applications and its primary responsibilities include four land development decisions including New York State Environmental Quality Review
(SEQR), Special Use Permit (SUP), Site Plan (SP) and Subdivision (SD).
The rules regarding public input depends on the type of application before the Planning Board.
SEQR and SP: The Planning Board reserves the right to allow public comment as deemed necessary. The total duration for all public comments should not exceed fifteen (15) minutes with each
individual speaker limited to a total of two (2) minutes.
SUP and SD: The Planning Board is required to conduct a public hearing with proper notice to all neighbors residing within 250 feet of the project. Each individual speaker will be limited to a total
of three (3) minutes.
For all applications: Speakers providing public input will be timed to ensure compliance. Applicants’ initial presentation to the Board will be limited to 15 minutes.
Planning Board members are volunteers appointed by the Mayor to serve seven-year terms. Each member has a single vote and a quorum (4 or more members) is required to vote on an
application.
Note: This agenda is subject to change. Please check the website for latest version.
GENERAL GUIDELINES FOR SPEAKERS
• All meetings are video recorded and webcast; please provide public input in a respectful manner.
• Public input will occur after the Applicant has presented the project to the Planning Board.
• Speak clearly into the microphone and state your name and address.
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• Speakers will be timed – two (2) minute limit for public comment and three (3) minute limit for public hearing. Be concise, it’s OK to speak for less than the time limit.
• Individuals may not donate their allotted time to other speakers.
• Face the Planning Board at all times, do not engage in direct discussions with the audience.
• Do not repeat points made by previous speakers.
• No laughing, heckling, speaking or clapping from the audience.
• Comments to the Board should specifically relate to the application under consideration and be directly relevant to the evaluation criteria.
• It is best to identify a designated speaker to summarize comments from multiple individuals.
• Written comments will be distributed to the Board and made part of the public record.
• Please note that the Planning Board has no jurisdiction over code enforcement.
• The Planning Board appreciates meaningful and thoughtful input from the community.
To learn more about the application review process, please contact the City Planning Department. Susan Barden: 518-587-3550 x2493 susan.barden@saratoga-springs.org
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