Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · September 14, 2015
Minutes
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
MINUTES
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 14, 2015
7:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL ROOM
CALL TO ORDER: Bill Moore, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 7:01 P. M.
SALUTE TO THE FLAG:
PRESENT: Bill Moore, Chairman; Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman; Adam McNeill, Secretary;
Gary Hasbrouck; Skip Carlson; James Helicke; Susan Steer
STAFF: Susan Barden, Senior Planner, City of Saratoga Springs
Tony Izzo, Deputy City Attorney
ANNOUNCEMENT OF RECORDING OF PROCEEDING:
The proceedings of this meeting are being recorded for the benefit of the secretary. Because the minutes are not a
verbatim record of the proceedings, the minutes are not a word-for-word transcript of the recording.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF ADJOURNED APPLICATIONS:
#2833 KIRBY BURNT HILLS REALTY, LLC NEW MULTI-FAMILIES, 6-14 Kirby Road, area variance to demolish five
existing four-unit residences, and construct two (2) twenty-seven (27) unit buildings; seeking relief from the minimum lot
size per dwelling unit, maximum principal building coverage and minimum parking requirements in the Urban
Residential-2 District.
#2774 COMPLEXIONS SIGN, 268 Broadway, area variance to install wall signs/banners; seeking relief from the
maximum number of wall signs, maximum extension from the building and to permit banner signs in the Transect-6
District.
#2817.1 ADELPHI HOTEL EXPANSION, 19-23 Washington Street, area variance to construct a banquet facility,
additional hotel rooms and renovate the existing stone mansion; seeking relief from the minimum frontage build out
Requirement in the Transect-6 District.
#2792 STONE BUILDINGS, 68 Weibel Avenue, area variance to maintain existing buildings; seeking relief from the
build-to, minimum frontage build-out and minimum two-story requirement in the Transect-4 District.
NEW BUSINESS:
1. #2752.1 SARATOGA PELICAN ASSOCIATES LOBBY, 232 Broadway, area variance extension of previous
approval for expansion of lobby area to an existing hotel; relief from the build-to, build-out, and two-story
requirements of the Transect-6 District.
Agent: Matthew Brobston, LA Group
SEQRA:
Action appears to be a Type II action and therefore exempt from further SEQRA review.
PARCEL HISTORY:
Area variance to construct a single-story addition to an existing hotel lobby and a new porte cochere in the front
of the existing hotel building, granted March 24, 2014.
AREA VARIANCE CONSIDERATIONS:
REQUIRED EXISTING PROPOSED TOTAL RELIEF REQUESTED
Build-to-line: 0-12 feet 62.9’ 40.5’ 28.65’
Minimum build-out: 70% 0% 0% 70%
Minimum two-story Two-story One-story One-story No two-story
Mr. Brobston stated the applicant is requesting a simple extension. The original timeframe was not sufficient because
the final planning and design process for the building has taken longer to complete than anticipated. The circumstances
upon which the original variance was granted have not changed. There have been no changes to the original variance
application or to the site, neighborhood or circumstances upon which the original variances were granted.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if there were any questions or comments from the Board.
None heard.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Bill Moore, Chairman opened the public hearing at 7:04 P.M.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
Bill Moore, Chairman stated the public hearing will remain open. A resolution will be presented at the end of the
meeting.
2. #2848 SULLIVAN RESIDENTIAL ADDITION, 95 Vista Drive, area variance to construct an addition to an
Existing single-family residence; seeking relief from the minimum rear yard setback requirement in the Water’s
Edge PUD.
SEQRA:
Action appears to be a Type II action and therefore exempt from further SEQRA review.
AREA VARIANCE CONSIDERATIONS:
REQUIRED PROPOSED TOTAL RELIEF REQUESTED
Minimum rear yard setback 25 feet 22 feet 3 feet (12%)
Agent: Tony Bonacio, Bonacio Construction; Dave Trojanski, Trojanski Builders
Mr. Bonacio stated the homeowners are out of town. Mr. Bonacio and Mr. Trojanski are here to represent. This is a
rather small project. There is currently a deck where this new addition to this home will be. That deck to the stairs is 18
feet, and the new structure will be 18 feet 6 in. The neighbors have been contacted and there is no opposition to this
project. Plans have been submitted to the building department. HOA Architectural Control Committee has provided an
approval for this project.
Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman questioned if alternative designs were considered.
Mr. Bonacio and Mr. Trojanski stated that the addition will take the place of an existing deck and therefore not affect the
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neighboring townhomes. The patio relocated off the back of the sunroom instead of off to the side could encroach into
the setback if it was uncovered. The design has not be altered since the addition will shrink too much for comfortable
using space. The addition will be located at the rear of the home not visible from the street and there are no houses to
the rear of the home.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if there were any questions or comments from the Board.
None heard.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Bill Moore, Chairman opened the public hearing at 7:10 P.M.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
Bill Moore, Chairman stated the public hearing will remain open. A resolution will be prepared and presented at the next
Zoning Board of Appeals meeting on September 28, 2014.
NOTIFICATIONS/CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
HOA approval dated May 14, 2015.
3. #2849 LICHTENBERGER SINGLE-FAMILY, 24 Diamond Street, area variance for demolition of an existing single
family residence and construction of a new single-family residence; seeking relief from the minimum front yard
setback, minimum side yard setback, minimum total side yard setback and maximum principal building coverage
requirements in the Urban Residential-3 District.
SEQRA:
Action appears to be a Type II action, and therefore exempt from further SEQRA review.
AREA VARIANCE CONSIDERATIONS:
REQUIRED EXISTING PROPOSED TOTAL RELIEF REQUESTED
Maximum principal building coverage: 30% 32% 42% 12% (40%)
Minimum front yard setback: 10 ft. 3.9 ft. 3.9 ft. 6.1ft. (61%)
Minimum side yard setback: 4 ft. 1.1 ft. 2 ft. 2 ft. (50%)
Minimum total side yard setback: 12 ft. 12.1 ft. 7 ft. 5 ft. (42%)
Agent: Susan Davis, SD Atelier
Applicant: Jeremy and Brianne Lichtenberger
Ms. Davis provided an overview of the project for the Board. A model of the home was also provided for the Boards
review. The lot is preexisting nonconforming with regard to the minimum lot requirements. The variance appears
substantial because the existing house is already noncompliant on a substandard non-complying lot. The proposed
house will not be significantly different in size and configuration. Ms. Davis stated that design options were explored
such as a patio instead of a deck and the consideration of no accessory structures. The proposed house exceeds the
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maximum (combined principal and accessory) building coverage of 40% in the district. The new house is 949 sq. ft.
including overhangs. A visual presentation of the site was also provided for the Boards review. Ms. Davis reviewed the
current condition/status of the home highlighting structural issues. The house is a farmhouse style not trying to be out of
style with those of the neighborhood. A shed is proposed also but smaller than allowed as an accessory structure.
An additional 115 square feet of house and 219 square feet of deck and stairs provide for the increase of 10% in
principal building coverage. The exterior is designed to be architecturally compatible with the neighborhood. We do
meet permeability and rear setbacks.
James Helicke questioned if the applicants have pursued additional property to purchase.
Mr. Lichtenberger stated he has not.
Skip Carlson advised the applicants to question the owner of the lot next door to see if purchasing it would be an option.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Bill Moore, Chairman opened the public hearing at 7:47 P.M.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
Bill Moore, Chairman stated that the public hearing will remain open. A resolution will be prepared and presented at the
next Zoning Board of Appeals meeting on September 28, 2015. The Board has requested an updated calculation on the
permeability.
4. #2850 STOUT DETACHED GARAGE, 126 Lincoln Avenue, area variance to construct a detached garage;
Seeking relief from the minimum side yard setback requirement in the Urban Residential-3 District.
SEQRA:
Action appears to be a Type II action, and therefore exempt from further SEQRA review.
AREA VARIANCE CONSIDERATIONS:
REQUIRED PROPOSED TOTAL RELIEF REQUESTED
Minimum side yard setback: 5 feet 3 feet 2 feet (40%)
Applicant: Elise Stout
Agent: Tony Latrulio
Mr. Latrulio stated Ms. Stout purchased the home six months ago. Michael Perri, the architect is out of town. What we
are proposing is a 2 foot relief on the side setback. At the rear of the property there was an existing garage along the
side property line and the rear property line. Since it was in disrepair the Stout’s applied for a permit and the garage was
demolished. The home is approximately 100 years old. Because of the location of the home and driveway on the lot and
the desire to locate the garage closer to the house (20’); as well as the desire to save a 50’ tall mature pine tree this is
the location that makes most sense. Other options were entertained, however entering and exiting the garage was
challenging for the applicant. The application indicates that the garage placement was to accommodate an existing
mature pine tree. Mr. Latrulio provided sketch drawings for the Boards review. Detached residential accessory
structures are characteristic of the neighborhood. There are garages on neighboring properties that are less than 5’
setback. The new structure will have gutters to direct water away from the neighbor’s property. Architecturally
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the proposed garage will complement the house. It matches the house in design. Mr. Stout did reach out to the
neighbors. Mr. Civale, owner of 124 Lincoln Avenue, an elderly neighbor did provide a letter stating he is agreeable to
the project, and has no issues with it moving forward. Mr. Latrulio provided a copy for the Boards review. It is a one car
small garage 16 x 20 foot building. The façade will be stucco mirroring the house. This home reminds him of his
grandmother’s home and he is hoping to retain the look with the garage complementing the house.
Susan Steer questioned if the turning radius was the only reason the garage was placed where it is.
Mr. Latrulio stated yes it is difficult for Mr. Stout to execute the maneuver. The turning radius was staked.
NOTIFICATIONS/APPROVALS/CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
None
CORRESPONDENCE RECEIVED BY THE ZBA:
Adam McNeill, Secretary stated a letter was received by the Board from William Civale, 124 Lincoln Avenue, dated
August 28, 2015.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Bill Moore, Chairman opened the public hearing at 7:56 P.M.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
Bill Moore, Chairman stated the public hearing will remain open. A resolution will be prepared and presented at the next
Zoning Board of Appeals meeting scheduled for September 28, 2015.
5. #2853 BARBANEL AND NIEFIELD RESIDENTIAL ADDITION, 171 Elm Street, area variance to demolish and
rebuild the rear portion of an existing single-family residence; seeking relief from the minimum side yard setback
and maximum principal building requirements in the Urban Residential-2 District.
SEQRA:
Action appears to be a Type II action, and therefore exempt from further SEQRA review.
AREA VARIANCE CONSIDERATIONS:
REQUIRED EXISTING PROPOSED TOTAL RELIEF
REQUESTED
Minimum side yard setback: 8 feet 4 feet 4 ft. 2 ins. 3 ft. 10 ins. (48%)
Maximum principal building coverage:
30% 38% 35% 5% (17%)
Applicant: Julius Barbanel and Nancy Niefield
Agent: Andrew Neville, designer
Mr. Barbanel stated he and his wife purchased this home 13 years ago. The intention was to rent it out until we were
ready to retire. We are excited about moving to Saratoga. The home was built in stages and we knew that the rear
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section of the home had some real problems. It was not constructed well, there were foundation problems. There is no
basement. We would like to demolish the rear portion of the home and rebuild. The present footprint is 38%. We will
reduce that to 35%. We are making this better in every way. The interior layout did not fit our needs, and we would like
a full basement. The plan follows the existing wall, making sense to continue the architectural and functional design.
The rear portion of the home to be removed is not original to the home. The front of the home will not be changed, all
construction is at the rear of the home and there is no visual change from the street.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Bill Moore, Chairman opened the public hearing at 8:02 P.M.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
Bill Moore, Chairman closed the public hearing at 8:03 P.M.
Adam McNeill presented the following resolution.
#2853
IN THE MATTER OF THE APPEAL OF
Julius Barbanel & Nancy Niefield
171 Elm Street
Saratoga Springs NY 12866
from the determination of the Building Inspector involving the premises at 171 Elm Street in the City of Saratoga Springs,
New York being tax parcel number 165.75-1-12 in the Inside District, on the Assessment Map of said City.
The appellant having applied for an area variance under the Zoning Ordinance of said City to permit construction to a
single-family residence in a UR-2 District and public notice having been duly given of a hearing on said application held
on the 14th of September, 2015.
In consideration of the balance between benefit to the applicant with detriment to the health, safety and welfare of the
community, I move that the following area variances for the following amount of relief:
Required: Existing: Proposed: Total relief requested:
Minimum side yard setback: north 8’ 4’ 4’ 2” 3’10” (48%)
Required: Existing: Proposed: Total relief requested:
Maximum principal building coverage: 30% 38% 35% 5% (17%)
As per the submitted plans or lesser dimensions, be approved for the following reasons:
1. The applicant has demonstrated this benefit cannot be achieved by other means feasible to the applicant. The
applicant notes that “a smaller design was considered, however it did not allow for adequate space for a
bedroom.” Also, the proposed construction follows an existing wall on the current structure and it makes sense to
the construction to follow this architectural and functional design.
2. The board notes that granting this variance will not create an undesirable change in neighborhood character or
detriment to nearby properties. The proposed construction is replacing an existing structure located in the rear of
the structure.
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3. The Board notes this variance could be considered substantial; however, it is continuation of an existing
nonconformity. The proposed construction will increase the side yard setback by 2” and the principal building
coverage will be reduced by 3%.
4. The board concludes this variance will not have significant adverse physical or environmental effect on the
neighborhood or district. As noted above, the proposed construction is smaller than the portion to be removed.
5. The alleged difficulty is self-created insofar as the applicant desires to construct the proposed addition, but this is
not necessarily fatal to the application.
Susan Steer seconded the motion.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Bill Moore, Chairman, in favor; Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman, in favor; Gary Hasbrouck, in favor; Skip Carlson, in favor;
James Helicke, in favor; Susan Steer, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
6. #2851 HONDA SIGNAGE, 3402 Route 9 (South Broadway), area variance to construct wall signs; seeking relief
from the maximum number of wall signs on an elevation, placement of signs above the first floor level and
maximum height of lettering/logo requirements in the Office Medical Business – 1 & 2 Districts.
SEQRA:
Action appears to be a Type II action, and therefore exempt from further SEQRA review.
PARCEL HISTORY:
Use variance to permit the expansion of an existing auto sales business, approved April 8, 2013.
AREA VARIANCE CONSIDERATIONS:
REQUIRED PROPOSED TOTAL RELIEF
REQUESTED
Maximum number of wall signs per elevation
with street frontage: Route 9 1 3 2 (200%)
Maximum number wall signs per elevation with
street frontage: Crescent Avenue 1 2 1 (100%)
Wall sign placement above first floor level: First floor Above 1st floor level for 100% for each of 3
West elevation – 3 signs level each of 3 signs signs
Wall sign placement above first floor level: First floor
North elevation – 2 signs Level Above first floor level 100% for both signs
Maximum square foot wall signs: West elevation 181.75 sq. ft. 81.75 sq. ft.
(area of 3 signs combined) 100 sq. ft. (81.75%)
Maximum square foot wall signs: North 100 sq. ft. 116.25 sq. ft. 16.25 sq. ft.
elevation (area of 2 signs combined) (16.25%)
Applicant: Tim Higgins, owner
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Agent: Sean Corp, Brendan Drake, balzer + tuck architects
Mr. Corp provided some background on the application. Signage location and sizing is based on American Honda
Corporation Inc., dealership requirements. Along Route 9 they are proposing 3 wall mounted signs. The standard Honda
logo on the corner which is 30 inches in height, the dealers name, which is tucked behind the motor canopy, and at the
far south end is the dealership name. Also proposed is signage for the Service center. This signage has a 36” letter S
and C and the remainder of the signage drops to 21” in height. On Crescent Avenue 2 wall mounted signs are
proposed. The Honda logo and the dealers name. The dealers name signage has a 36” letter “S” and the remainder of
the lettering drops to 24” in height. We will be seeking a variance for signage above the 18” which is allowed. The
placement of the signs is another issue. The building technically has a second story but it does not register on the
façade. There are no windows to the second story. It is mostly used for parts storage. You cannot tell the signage is
above the first level. In the atrium space there is a second story which looks down on the showroom but on the façade it
has no windows and does not articulate as a second story. Although we are requesting relief for signage above the first
floor level, again you cannot tell that from the façade. We are allowed one sign per façade. This is a 43,000 square foot
building. While the relief requested may be considered substantial the building is 245 feet in length along Route 9 and
209 feet in length along Crescent Avenue. The signage we feel is within proportion to the building. Part of the Honda
signage package proposed is related to its distance from the building to the roadway. The dealership name is 175 feet
away from the center line of Route 9. The Honda Logo signage is 215 feet back. The cars are traveling at 55 MPH. At
those speeds and that distance we feel this is appropriate. Along Crescent Avenue we are 340 feet back. The speed
limit there is 35 MPH. The proposed signage facing Route 9 and Crescent Avenue has no neighboring building nearby
to have a direct view of the proposed signage. The southern Route 9 corridor is largely commercial in use, with this
buildings signage keeping in context with this corridor. Signage will be channel lit lettering with previously approved
parking lighting being the predominant feature.
Gary Hasbrouck requested industry standards regarding site distance for signage at a particular speed and specific size
of signage.
Bill Moore, Chairman suggested requesting an Advisory Opinion from the Design Review Commission.
Discussion ensued among the Board Members.
It was the consensus of the ZBA that an Advisory Opinion from the DRC is not necessary.
Discussion ensued regarding the number of signs and size requested, especially the size of the Service Center signage.
James Helicke stated he is concerned regarding the number of signs proposed, especially the service center signage.
He suggested reducing the size of this signage. Perhaps directional signage placed on site to direct
customers to the service center.
Mr. Higgins, owner stated perhaps there can be some alternative for signage size for the service center signage.
Mr. Drake stated there are some concerns regarding the circulation upon entering the site for customers. It can be
confusing but perhaps there is some opportunity for site signage.
Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman suggested computer images of signage at different size lettering. Also a rendering of what
signage would look like if it was conforming signage.
Susan Steer stated in driving by the dealership there is no question this is a car dealership. It is huge. Who is driving
the signage package? She does not feel comfortable voting for anything less than what is allowed. It is located in a very
pretty place. I would only approve one sign and for what is allowed.
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Mr. Corp stated it is the Honda Corporations proposed signage package we are proposing.
Adam McNeill stated he agreed with what Keith said. Regarding the Service Center signage perhaps it could be smaller.
Mr. Higgins stated he would be happy to reduce the service center signage as well as the two oval signs over the doors
which say delivery entrance. I am willing to work with the Board.
It was the Board’s recommendation that the applicants return with several alternatives for the service center signage and
requested information.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Bill Moore, Chairman opened the public hearing at 9:05 P.M.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. .
None heard.
Bill Moore, Chairman stated the public hearing will remain open. We have requested some information from the
applicant. We will prepare and present a resolution at the next ZBA meeting scheduled for September 28, 2015.
NOTIFICATIONS/APPROVALS/CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL:
DRC Architectural Review required for sign package.
Saratoga County referral required.
NYS Parks referral required.
7. #2852 STARLING RESIDENTIAL EXPANSION, 134 Crescent Street, area variance to construct a second story
expansions to an existing single-family residence; seeking relief from the minimum front yard setback requirement
In the Urban Residential-2 District.
SEQRA:
Action appears to be a Type II action and therefore exempt from further SEQRA review.
AREA VARIANCE CONSIDERATIONS:
REQUIRED PROPOSED TOTAL RELIEF REQUESTED
Minimum front yard setback: Ward 10 feet 0 feet 10 feet (100%)
DISCLOSURE:
Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman stated when I visited the site Mr. Starling did point out the area in question. We did not
discuss the merits of this application. No need for recusal, simply disclosure.
Applicant: William Starling, owner
Mr. Starling stated a site survey was completed and provided to the Board. I am proposing a full second story above the
identified 1 story in the rear and a new roof over the existing 1 story entrance. I am looking to increase and improve the
usage with two bedrooms, as well as a master bedroom and bath. The applicant states an alternate approach could be
an addition added to the side of the structure, however, this would not address the life safety concerns and the resulting
structure would exceed 30% of the lot’s square footage. The current neighborhood is comprised of a variety of single and
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dual story homes of similar size. The expansion of this house is consistent with the existing character of the
neighborhood and will not be a detriment to neighboring properties. No additional stormwater runoff will be generated.
All roof runoff and water and snow will be managed on the property. 25% of the site will remain permeable. We will be
adding new windows in the home.
Skip Carlson questioned if the Board could grant relief over the property line.
Susan Barden, Senior Planner stated this Board can only grant relief to the property line. The applicant will need to
petition the City Council and this goes to the Real Estate Committee for an advisory opinion to the City Council whether
the applicant is able to construct in the City Right of Way.
The applicant stated he will attempt to stay within the property line avoiding any encroachment in the City’s Right of Way.
Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman requested the amount of permeability with the garage and overhangs included.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Bill Moore, Chairman opened the public hearing at 9:20 P.M.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
Bill Moore, Chairman stated the public hearing will remain open. All violations on the property must be resolved prior to
the granting of any variances.
8. #2855 BAKER RESIDENTIAL ADDITION, 43 Granite Street, area variance to construct an addition to an
Existing single-family residence; seeking relief from the minimum (each) side yard setback and minimum total
side yard setback requirements in the Urban Residential-1 District.
SEQRA:
Action appears to be a Type II action and therefore exempt from further SEQRA review.
AREA VARIANCE CONSIDERATIONS:
REQUIRED PROPOSED TOTAL RELIEF REQUESTED
Minimum side yard setback 12 feet 9 ft. 7 in. 2 ft. 5 in. (20%)
Agent: Matthew Hurff, Frost Hurff Architecture
Mr. Hurff stated the applicant is proposing an addition to an existing single family residence. The lot is pre-existing
nonconforming with the minimum average lot width requirement – lot is 50’ wide, required is 100’. The required minimum
side yard setbacks correspond to a much larger lot. The existing house is pre-existing non-conforming with regard to the
side yard setback. Other alternatives were explored. The possibility of an internal stair to the basement was explored
but is not feasible given the small size of the floor plan. The proposed addition is small 77 square feet and is located in
the rear of the building. The proposed action will be of minimal visibility and will keep the house within the typical mass,
scale and density of the neighborhood. The site plan identified 55.8% of the site to remain permeable which exceeds the
30% minimum requirement.
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PUBLIC HEARING:
Bill Moore, Chairman opened the public hearing at 9:24 P.M.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
Bill Moore, Chairman closed the public hearing at 9:25 P.M.
Gary Hasbrouck presented the following resolution.
IN THE MATTER OF THE APPEAL #2855
Ed and Edna Baker
43 Granite Street
Saratoga Springs, NY 12866
from the determination of the Building Inspector involving the premises at 43 Granite Street in the City of Saratoga Springs,
New York being Tax Parcel Section 165.43-1-24, Inside District of the City of Saratoga Springs, New York.
Whereas, the appellant having applied for an area variances for relief from the current City Zoning Ordinance for minimum side
yard setback in a UR-1 zoning district in order to construct a covered stairway; and public notice has been duly given of a
hearing on said application held on September 14, 2015.
Whereas, in consideration of the balance between benefit to the applicant with detriment to the health, safety and welfare of the
community, the Board makes the following resolution that the requested area variance for the following relief or lesser
dimensions, be approved:
Required: Proposed: Total relief requested:
Minimum side yard setback: 12 feet 9 feet 7 inches 2’ 5” or 20%
1. The applicant has demonstrated this benefit cannot be achieved by other means feasible. The application states, “The
possibility of an internal stair to the basement was explored but is not feasible given the small size of the floor plan (there is no
place to put it without negatively impacting the available living space). Locating the exterior stair within the setback would
require cutting a new opening into the basement and would block the existing kitchen window”.
2. The applicant has demonstrated that granting this variance will not create an undesirable change in neighborhood character or
detriment to nearby properties. The application states, “The proposed addition is small…of which less than 7 sq’ is within the
side setback. Thus, the proposed addition will be of minimal visibility and will keep the house within the typical mass, scale,
and density of the neighborhood”. The Board notes there is already a covered stairway to the basement accessible from the
outside of the house. The applicant’s intent is to simply enlarge this stairway to give access from the 1st floor living space.
3. The request for relief is not substantial. The application states, “…the addition has a larger setback than the current existing
building”. The Board notes this is a substandard size lot for a UR-1 zone with a UR-3 zone directly across the street. The
application states, “If the lot was zoned UR-3, no variance would be required at all”.
4. The applicant has demonstrated this variance will not have an adverse physical or environmental effect on the neighborhood.
Minimum percent to remain permeable requirements are met.
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5. The difficulty may be considered self-created. This, however, is not necessarily fatal to the application.
Skip Carlson seconded the motion.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Bill Moore, Chairman, in favor; Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman, in favor; Gary Hasbrouck, in favor; Skip Carlson, in favor;
James Helicke, in favor; Susan Steer, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
9. #2854 WITT CONSTRUCTION SINGLE-FAMILY, Cherry Hill Lane lot #4, area variance for construction of a
new single-family residence; seeking relief from the minimum front yard setback requirement in the Rural Residential
District.
SEQRA:
Action appears to be a Type II action and therefore exempt from further SEQRA review.
AREA VARIANCE CONSIDERATIONS:
REQUIRED PROPOSED TOTAL RELIEF REQUESTED
Minimum front yard setback: 60 feet 38 feet 22 feet (37%)
Applicant: John Witt, owner
Mr. Witt stated we have developed this project almost 20 years ago. This is the last lot left. It is a challenging, unique lot
due to the topography, shape of the lot and odd setbacks. The proposed house is 44’ from the front property line
because of a front porch which adds 6 feet in depth. There is a severe slope of the property at the front of the property.
The house to the left of the subject property is setback approximately 100’ from the front property line. Due to the site
constraints the house is better suited to be placed closer to the front of the lot. Mr. Witt presented the Board with some
favorable correspondence from the neighbors. All homes were designed and are different.
Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman requested a topographical map of the site would be helpful.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Bill Moore, Chairman opened the public hearing at 9:40 P.M.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
Bill Moore, Chairman stated the public hearing will remain open.
Bill Moore, Chairman stated a resolution will be prepared and presented at the next ZBA meeting scheduled for
September 28, 2015.
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APPLICATION HEARD EARLIER THIS EVENING:
#2752.1 SARATOGA PELICAN ASSOCIATES LOBBY, 232 Broadway, area variance extension of previous
approval for expansion of lobby area to an existing hotel; relief from the build-to, build-out, and two-story
requirements of the Transect-6 District
PUBLIC HEARING:
Bill Moore, Chairman closed the public hearing at 9:40 P.M.
James Helicke presented the following resolution.
IN THE MATTER OF THE APPLICATION OF
Saratoga Pelican Associates, LLC
Holiday Inn
232 Broadway
Saratoga Springs, NY 12866
Based upon submitted evidence that the application for an extension of a granted Area Variance does not significantly
differ from the original application and approval, and that there have been no significant changes in the condition of the
neighborhood warranting otherwise, the board moves that the application of Saratoga Pelican Associates, LLC dba
Holiday Inn at 232 Broadway in the City of Saratoga Springs, and identified by tax parcel no. 165.75-2-5 originally
granted on March 24, 2014 for construction of a single-story addition to an existing hotel lobby and a new porte cochere
in the front of the existing building in the Transect-6 district be APPROVED, and that the variance approval be extended
for 18 months from the date that such resolution would have expired if not extended, September 24, 2015, with the new
expiration date to be March 24, 2017. The variance shall expire on March 24, 2017 unless the necessary building permit
has been issued and actual construction begun as per Article 240-8.5.2 or otherwise further extended.
Adam McNeill, Secretary seconded the motion.
VOTE:
Bill Moore, Chairman, in favor; Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman, in favor; Gary Hasbrouck, in favor; Skip Carlson, in favor;
James Helicke, in favor; Susan Steer, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 7-0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Bill Moore, Chairman made a motion to approve the minutes of the July 13, 2015 meeting as submitted.
Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman seconded the motion.
VOTE:
Bill Moore, Chairman, in favor; Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman, in favor; Adam McNeill, abstained; Gary Hasbrouck,
in favor; Skip Carlson, in favor; James Helicke, abstained Susan Steer, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 5-0-2
Bill Moore, Chairman made a motion to approve the minutes of the July 27, 2015 as submitted.
City of Saratoga Springs - Zoning Board of Appeals – September 14, 2015 - Page 13 of 14
Adam McNeill, Secretary seconded the motion.
VOTE:
Bill Moore, Chairman, in favor; Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman, in favor; Gary Hasbrouck, in favor; Skip Carlson, in favor;
James Helicke, in favor; Susan Steer, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 5-0-2
MOTION TO ADJOURN:
There being no further business to discuss Bill Moore, Chairman adjourned the meeting at 9:44 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Diane M. Buzanowski
Recording Secretary
APPROVED 10/26/15
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Agenda
Bill Moore
Chair
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS Keith Kaplan
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS Vice Chair
Adam McNeill
Secretary
CITY HALL - 474 BROADWAY George “Skip” Carlson
SARATOGA SPRINGS, NEW YORK 12866 Gary Hasbrouck
PH) 518-587-3550 FX) 518-580-9480 James Helicke
WWW.SARATOGA-SPRINGS.ORG Susan Steer
ZBA Meeting – Monday, September 14, 2015
City Council Chambers – 7:00 p.m.
AGENDA
WORKSHOP: 6:30PM
SALUTE THE FLAG
ROLL CALL
NEW BUSINESS:
1. #2752.1 SARATOGA PELICAN ASSOCIATES LOBBY, 232 Broadway, area variance extension of
previous approval for expansion of lobby area to an existing hotel; relief from the build-to, build-
out and two-story requirements of the Transect – 6 District.
2. #2848 SULLIVAN RESIDENTIAL ADDITION, 95 Vista Drive, area variance to construct an addition to
an existing single-family residence; seeking relief from the minimum rear yard setback
requirement in the Water’s Edge PUD.
3. #2849 LICHTENBERGER SINGLE-FAMILY, 24 Diamond Street, area variance for demolition of
existing single-family residence and construction of a new single-family residence; seeking relief
from the minimum front yard setback, minimum side yard setback, minimum total side yard
setback and maximum principal building coverage requirements in the Urban Residential – 3
District.
4. #2850 STOUT DETACHED GARAGE, 126 Lincoln Avenue, area variance to construct a detached
garage; seeking relief from the minimum side yard setback requirement in the Urban Residential –
2 District.
5. #2853 BARBANEL AND NIEFIELD RESIDENTIAL ADDITION, 171 Elm Street, area variance to demolish
and rebuild the rear portion of an existing single-family residence; seeking relief from the minimum
side yard setback and maximum principal building requirements in the Urban Residential – 2
District.
6. #2851 HONDA SIGNAGE, 3402 Route 9 (South Broadway), area variance to construct wall signs;
seeking relief from the maximum number of wall signs on an elevation, placement of signs above
the first floor level and maximum height of lettering/logo requirements in the Office Medical
Business – 1 & 2 Districts.
7. #2852 STARLING RESIDENTIAL EXPANSION, 134 Crescent Street, area variance to construct
second-story expansions to an existing single-family residence; seeking relief from the minimum
front yard setback requirement in the Urban Residential – 2 District.
8. #2855 BAKER RESIDENTIAL ADDITION, 43 Granite Street, area variance to construct an addition to
an existing single-family residence; seeking relief from the minimum (each) side yard setback and
minimum total side yard setback requirements in the Urban Residential – 1 District.
9. #2854 WITT CONSTRUCTION SINGLE-FAMILY, Cherry Hill Lane lot #4, area variance for construction
of a new single-family residence; seeking relief from the minimum front yard setback requirement
in the Rural Residential District.
OLD BUSINESS:
10. #2843 MCCLELLAN REO, LLC, 70 Lake Avenue, use variance modification from previously granted
real estate office to office and medical office in the Urban Residential – 2 District.
ADJOURNED ITEMS:
11. #2833 KIRBY BURNT HILLS REALTY, LLC NEW MULTI-FAMILIES, 6 – 14 Kirby Road, area variance
to demolish five existing four-unit residences and construct two (2) twenty-seven (27) unit
buildings; seeking relief from the minimum lot size per dwelling unit, maximum principal building
coverage and minimum parking requirements in the Urban Residential – 4 District.
12. #2774 COMPLEXIONS SIGN, 268 Broadway, area variance to install wall signs/banners; seeking
relief from the maximum number of wall signs, maximum extension from the building and to permit
banner signs in the Transect – 6 District.
13. #2817.1 ADELPHI HOTEL EXPANSION, 19-23 Washington Street, area variance to construct a
banquet facility, additional hotel rooms and renovate the existing stone mansion; seeking relief
from the minimum frontage build-out requirement in the Transect – 6 District.
14. #2792 STONE BUILDINGS, 68 Weibel Avenue, area variance to maintain existing buildings; seeking
relief from the build-to, minimum frontage build-out and minimum two-story requirements in the
Transect – 4 District.
OTHER BUSINESS
a. APPROVAL OF DRAFT MEETING MINUTES: JULY 13 AND 27, 2015
b. NEXT ZONING BOARD MEETING: SEPT. 28, 2015
Note: This agenda is subject to change. To verify the actual agenda prior to the meeting, please contact the Zoning Office at 587-
3550 extension 2533.
AS OF 8/27/2015 1:04 PM
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