Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · March 27, 2017
Minutes
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
MINUTES (FINAL)
MONDAY, MARCH 27, 2017
7:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL ROOM
CALL TO ORDER: Bill Moore, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
SALUTE TO THE FLAG:
PRESENT: Bill Moore, Chairman; Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman; Gary Hasbrouck
Susan Steer; James Helicke; Cheryl Grey; Oksana Ludd
ABSENT: Adam McNeill, Secretary;
STAFF: Susan Barden, Senior Planner, City of Saratoga Springs
Tony Izzo, Assistant City Attorney, City of Saratoga Springs
ANNOUNCEMENT OF RECORDING OF PROCEEDING:
The proceedings of this meeting are being recorded for the benefit of the secretary. Because the minutes are not a
verbatim record of the proceedings, the minutes are not a word-for-word transcript of the recording.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF ADJOURNED APPLICATIONS:
#2876.1 BENTON SUBDIVISION, 58 Fifth Avenue, area variance to construct a single family residence; seeks relief
from the minimum front yard, minimum side yard, minimum total side yard and minimum rear yard setbacks, and
maximum principal building coverage requirements in the Urban Residential-1 District.
#2932 DEVALL CARRIAGE HOUSE, 59 Franklin Street, area variance for construction of a three-car carriage house
with a second story dwelling unit; seeking relief from the minimum front yard setback (Cherry St.) and minimum side
yard setback.
#2931 LAKE LOCAL, 550 Union Avenue, consideration for Coordinated SEQRA Review for expansion and construction
of eating and drinking establishment, marina and docks and tourist accommodations in the Water Related Business and
Rural Residential Districts.
NEW BUSINESS:
1. #2953 STATION PARK MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT, Washington Street and Station Lane, consideration for
coordinated SEQRA Review for the proposed mixed-use project.
Bill Moore, Chairman stated procedurally public hearing was not noticed for this meeting. Noticing of the public hearing
will take place after a SEQRA determination is made.
SEQRA:
-Action appears to be Unlisted – Part 1of the short form submitted.
-Required approvals from Planning Board and DRC – both involved agencies
-ZBA could initiate Coordinated Review and defer Lead Agency to the Planning Board
should they seek it.
AREA VARIANCES DRAFT:
REQUIRED PROPOSED TOTAL RELIEF REQUESTED
Maximum building height Lot 1 50 ft. 66 ft. 16 ft. (32%)
Build-to: Lot 2 0-12 ft. 35 ft. 23 ft. (192%)
Build-out Lot 2 70% 0% 70% (100%)
Build-to: Washington St. Lot 3 0-12 ft. 155 ft. 143 ft. (1192%)
Build-out: Washington St. Lot 3 70% 0% 70% (100%)
Build-to: Lot 4 0-12 ft. 35 ft. 23 ft. (192%)
Build-out Lot 4 70% 0% 70% (100%)
Minimum two-story One-story not to exceed 3,000 sq. ft. 3,030 sq. ft. one-story 30 sq. ft. (1%)
Build to: Lot 5 0-12 ft. 35 ft. 23 ft. (192%)
Build out: Lot 5 70% 0% 70%
Applicant: Don Minnery, Principal Saratoga Associates
Mr. Minnery provided a visual presentation of Station Lane and the proposed site for the Board’s information. There will
also be an entrance off of Washington Street as well. Mr. Minnery provided a narrative of the site noting the
geographical constrictions on the site. We are proposing a 6 story 110 room hotel, with pedestrian access to the railroad
station. Two senior housing units are proposed 33 assisted living in each building with 57 independent units in each
building. Across the road we have 2 buildings with 36 unit condominiums in each. A two story retail building is also
proposed with access off of Station Lane. This will be a boulevard street with strong sidewalk connections between retail
and the senior housing. There is good vehicular and pedestrian circulation around the properties. We have space
available for civic space. On street parking, curbing, sidewalks, and street trees are proposed. This is a wooded site
and we will be maintaining borders along the railroad. Green infrastructure is planned using permeable pavers on the
site. Geo-thermal will be used for heating and cooling. Shared parking will be provided as well as some underground
parking.
An aerial sketch of the proposed hotel was also provided. Mr. Minnery reviewed the requested variances.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if there were any further questions or comments from the Board.
None heard.
Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman made a motion for Coordinated SEQRA Review for the mixed use project and defer Lead
Agency Status to the Planning Board should they request it.
Cheryl Grey seconded the motion.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Bill Moore, Chairman, in favor; Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman; in favor; Susan Steer, in favor;
Gary Hasbrouck, in favor; Cheryl Grey, in favor; James Helicke, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
2. #2944.1 MCCARTHY TWO-FAMILY, 14 Stratton Street, area variance modification for construction of an addition to
an existing two-family residence; seeking relief to expand a nonconforming use in the Urban Residential-2 District.
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BACKGROUND:
This application received area variances for renovation of an existing front porch and increased height and new roof line
for an existing single-family portion on the side of the residence. It was determined when the building permit application
was reviewed that the applicant did not receive relief for the rear addition to expand the existing two family residence.
Section 5.3.4 states “A non-conforming use shall not be extended or physically expanded. Extension or expansion of a
non-conforming use shall include expansion of the area or volume occupied by a non-conforming use, including
expansion into previously underutilized, vacant or newly constructed space, or the increase of any parking related to the
use.
SEQRA:
Action appears to be a Type II action, and therefore exempt from further SEQRA review.
PARCEL HISTORY:
Area variance for construction of additions to an existing two-family residence, minimum side and front yard setbacks,
approved February 27, 2017.
AREA VARIANCE CONSIDERATIONS:
-Expansion of a nonconforming use to provide for a 1,306 square foot addition.
Agent: Jesse Boucher, Kodiak Construction.
Mr. Boucher stated this project was presented at the February meetings. There was a misunderstanding of the area
variances required. We are back tonight just to review the project hoping to receive an additional variance. The project
is a two family residence recognized by the City as a two family residence since 1991, but it is in a one family district.
We need a variance to keep this property as a two family residence. The lot size is 20,000 square feet and in the district
6,600 square feet is required for a single family residence. In terms of density there are no issues.
Cheryl Grey reviewed the application noting the zoning in the area. Discussion ensued concerning the side addition
when it was originally presented. No additional variances are required in the rear of the property due to the distance
from the property line. The front of the home is also being worked on.
Mr. Boucher stated the applicant is only cleaning up the front porch of the home. There is no change in dimension.
The porch is too close to the front setback.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if anyone on the Board has any further questions or comments.
None heard.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Bill Moore, Chairman opened the public hearing at 7:19 P.M.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
Bill Moore, Chairman stated the public hearing will remain open. A resolution will be prepared and presented
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at the next ZBA Meeting scheduled for April 10, 2017.
3. #2934.1 ALTMAN RESIDENTIAL ADDITION, 103 York Avenue, area variance modification for constructed changes
to an existing single-family residence; seeking relief from the minimum front yard setback and minimum side yard
setback requirements in the Urban Residential-3 District.
This modification is due to the fact that when the as-built survey was submitted to the Building Department the front
porch extended further to the east than previously considered by the Board.
SEQRA:
Action appears to be a Type II action, and therefore exempt from further SEQRA review.
AREA VARIANCE CONSIDERATIONS:
REQUIRED PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED TOTAL RELIEF REQUESTED
APPROVED
Minimum side yard setback: front porch expansion 4 ft. N/A 1 ft. 3 feet (75%)
Minimum front yard setback: 10 ft. 1.5 ft. 1 ft. 9 feet (90%)
Applicant: James Altman, owner
Mr. Altman stated this request is a modification to a variance which was granted in May of 2015 for a rear addition.
That variance also included the rebuilding of the existing front porch to a wraparound porch to the west side of the home.
The addition and front porch have since been built. In the final survey the building inspector noted that the as
built front porch was a bit larger than what was approved. The error was not made in taking liberty to gain a larger porch
but an oversight when I first appeared before this Board. The as built porch is in the character of the neighborhood and
the porch does not increase the overall east side setback.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if there was any further questions or comments from the Board.
None heard.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Bill Moore, Chairman opened the public hearing at 7:24 P.M.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
Bill Moore, Chairman closed the public hearing at 7:25 P.M.
Susan Steer presented the following resolution.
#2834.1
IN THE MATTER OF THE APPEAL OF
JAMES ROSS ALTMAN
103 YORK AVENUE
SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY 12866
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From the determination of the Building Inspector involving the premises at 103 York Avenue in the City of
Saratoga Springs, NY, being tax parcel number 166.45-2-40 on the Assessment Map of said City. The Applicant having
applied for a modification of an area variance approved by this Board on May 18, 2015 to construct a second story
addition and renovate the Applicant’s front porch and notice having been duly given of a hearing on said application on
March 27, 2017.
In consideration of the balance between the benefit to the Applicant with the detriment to the health, safety and
welfare of the community, I move that the following variances for the following amount of relief:
DISTRICT PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED RELIEF
TYPE OF REQUIREMENT DIMENSIONAL APPROVED IN REQUESTED
REQUIREMENT 2015
Minimum Side Yard Setback 4 feet N/A 1 foot 3 feet (75%)
Minimum Front Yard Setback 10 feet 1.5 feet 1 foot 9 feet (90%)
As per the submitted plans or lesser dimensions, BE APPROVED for the following reasons:
1. The Board finds that the Applicant has demonstrated that the benefit cannot be achieved by other means
feasible to the Applicant. The Applicant renovated the porch according to the plans submitted in 2015 and
approved by the building department that same year. According to the Applicant, a mistake was made in
calculating the dimensions resulting in the porch exceeding the dimensional relief that was granted. The porch
has been constructed and therefore to remedy the error, the only solution would be to demolish and rebuild the
entire porch.
2. The Board finds that the Applicant has demonstrated that granting these variances will not produce an
undesirable change in neighborhood character and will not be a detriment to the nearby properties. As this
Board previously noted, the addition of a wrap-around porch resembles other porches in the neighborhood
3. The Board finds that the requests for relief for minimum side yard and front yard setbacks may be considered
substantial however substantiality is mitigated by the fact that the existing porch was already in
nonconformance with the zoning district’s requirement and the side yard and front yard setbacks are only 1 foot
and 0.5 feet respectfully larger than what this Board previously approved.
4. The Board finds that the Applicant has demonstrated that granting these variances will not have an adverse
physical or environmental effect on the neighborhood. As previously noted, extending the porch to the west
would not affect that neighbor’s property since that residence is at the back of that property.
5. The request for relief may be considered a self-created hardship; however self-creation alone is not fatal to the
application.
James Helicke seconded the motion.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Bill Moore, Chairman, in favor; Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman; in favor; Susan Steer, in favor;
Gary Hasbrouck, in favor; Cheryl Grey, abstained; James Helicke, in favor
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MOTION PASSES: 5-0-1
4. #2950 MCBAIN POOL, 41 Granite Street, area variance to install a pool; seeking relief from the minimum front yard
setback, maximum accessory building coverage and for placement of a pool in the front yard requirements in the
Urban Residential-1 District.
SEQRA:
Action appears to be a Type II action, and therefore exempt from further SEQRA review.
PARCEL HISTORY:
-Area variance to construct a new single family residence, relief from the maximum principal and accessory building
coverage’s, minimum front yards (Vermont and Granite) and minimum side yard setback, approved 08/28/2006.
-Area variance to relocate the previously approved new single-family residence; relief to increase the amount of relief
To increase the amount of relief from the front yard setback (Granite St.) from 10’ to 3’ withdrawn 08/02/2007.
-Modification to previous approval to revise plans approved 08/02/2007.
-Area variance to construct a front porch addition, relief from the minimum front yard (Granite) setback and maximum
principal building coverage approved 07/25/2011.
AREA VARIANCE CONSIDERATIONS:
REQUIRED PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROPOSED TOTAL REQUIRED REQUESTED
Minimum front yard setback: to pool
(Vermont St.) 8 ft. N/A 3 ft. 5 ft. (62.5%)
Maximum accessory building coverage: 8% 9% 11% 3% (37.5%)
Pool location on side or rear (not front) yard: Side/rear N/A Front Front yard placement (100%)
DISCLOSURE:
Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman disclosed that he has in the past worked with Mr. McBain on a political campaign. That
was many years ago and has not had any contact with him since then. No financial interest in this
project. No need for recusal, simply disclosure.
Applicant: Edward McBain, owner
Mr. McBain stated we have owned this property for the last nine years. The Chairman read the variances we are
requesting for the installation of an in ground pool. The pool is on a side of the house that will not be seen from the
immediate neighboring properties. Grade is elevated from the street level and therefore most aspects of the pool will not
be visible. There is a 4 foot fence in that location which goes to 3 feet in some locations for privacy purposes. I have
sent notices to my neighbors and have received some verbal notifications from neighbors noting no objection to our
proposed pool installation.
NEIGHBOR INPUT:
Gary Hasbrouck stated the Board received the following correspondence:
-Correspondence dated March 23, 2017 from Edward S. Baker, 43 Granite Street.
-Correspondence from Linda Minor, 45 Granite Street.
Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman stated there have been a series of variances over the years.
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The lot in a UR-1 District is undersized. The percentages have to be kept in mind. The applicant was questioned
concerning the possibility of a smaller pool.
Mr. McBain stated they did discuss alternatives such as a smaller pool and a narrower pool.
Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman discussed the uniqueness of the property and alternatives feasible for the applicant
perhaps a different placement of the pool and the question of dimensional relief as well as permeability calculation on the
property with the pool in place.
Susan Steer requested the applicant write up a short synopsis of what they are requesting with their pool choice and
submit it to the Board.
Discussion ensued among the Board concerning the amount of relief requested and amount of permeability.
The applicant was requested to recheck the numerical calculations.
Mr. McBain will provide a final determination on the choice of pool style and final location of the pool.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Bill Moore, Chairman opened the public hearing at 7:54 P.M.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
Bob Werther, 24 Vermont Street. I have no problem at all with this project.
Bill Moore, Chairman stated the public hearing will remain open. We will prepare and present a resolution at the next
ZBA Meeting scheduled for April 10, 2017.
5. #2951 SHELTERS OF SARATOGA ADDITION, 14 Walworth Street, area variance for an addition to an existing
residence; seeking relief from the minimum average lot width, minimum side and rear yard setbacks and maximum
principal building coverage for the building addition and minimum front, rear and side yard setbacks to parking
requirements in the Urban Residential-4 District.
SEQRA:
-Action appears to be a Type II action, and therefore exempt from further SEQRA review.
AREA VARIANCE CONSIDERATIONS:
REQUIRED PROPOSED TOTAL RELIEF REQUESTED
Minimum lot width: Two structures on one lot 200 ft. 133 ft. 67 ft. (33.5%)
Minimum side yard setback: 20 ft. 10.4ft. 9.6 ft. (48%)
Minimum rear yard setback: 25 ft. 16.45 ft. 8.55 ft. (34.3%)
Maximum principal building coverage: Two buildings combined 25% 36.2% 11.2% (44.8%)
Minimum front yard setback: Parking 25 ft. 12.9 ft. 12.1 ft. (48.4%)
Minimum rear yard setback: Parking 25 ft. 1.9 ft. 23.1 ft. (92.4%)
Minimum side yard setback: Parking 20 ft. 1.9 ft. 18.1 ft. (90.5%)
NOTIFICATIONS/APPROVALS/CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
-Saratoga County Planning Board referral required – response “Approve” issued March 16, 2017.
-Planning Board special use permit and site plan review is required.
NEIGHBOR INPUT:
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-Letter from Elliott and Cathy Masie, dated March 10, 2017.
DISCLOSURE:
James Helicke stated he did make a charitable donation to the Shelters of Saratoga. His wife is also a volunteer.
Susan Steer stated she is a volunteer for code blue.
Applicant: Mike Finocchi, Executive Director
Agent: Mike Ingersoll, LA Group;
Mr. Ingersoll stated we have very generous donors, Ed and Lisa Mitzen who are offering to help the community solve a
situation and rectify this by the end of the year. Many local businessmen have donated their time and services as well.
Shelters does exist currently it is a managed property and oversees Code Blue. This will be managed by one entity for
the first time in many years.
Mr. Finocchi, director stated we are a not for profit organization and our mission is to provide individuals with safe
shelter, supportive services and sustainable strategies to end homelessness in the Greater Saratoga region. Our
houseguests have a safe place to sleep, food and individual support to gain independence in work and educational
services through our supportive services. We do have rules and regulations to be followed. We have a zero tolerance
policy. We have daily chores and encourage volunteering in the community daily to assist others from 9AM – 4PM.
They have to leave the house during these hours to comply with our requirements. Curfew must be maintained and
attendance at weekly house meetings is required.
Code Blue Saratoga is an emergency shelter servicing individuals who are homeless in the City of Saratoga Springs who
might otherwise remain unsheltered during periods of extreme winter weather. Code Blue protocols are in place
between November and April when temperatures fall below the State related mandate of Executive Order #151 which is
defined as 12 inches of snow, or 30 degrees or less including the wind chill factor as well.
Mr. Ingersoll stated City of Saratoga Springs is the only Code Blue facility in the County. We are actually an extension of
the County mission to serve as stated by this requirement. The City is obligated to provide this service. Most recently a
Memorandum of Understanding has been reached with the neighbors concerning this project. A visual presentation of
the site was provided to the Board, noting it encompasses four parcels which total less than a half an acre, each of the
buildings is on its own parcel. Several variances would be required. We have made an application for a Special Use
Permit, and the building inspector has determined we will proceed as a rooming house facility. The project is obligated
to go through Site Plan Review and a Lot Line Consolidation will be required as well.
Mr. Ingersoll reviewed the information criteria for an area variance. We believe the information submitted to the Board
will answer all those questions. Mr. Ingersoll provided views of all elevations of the current building, noting the parking
situation. We will review this further as we move the application forward. There is an encroachment on the property,
previously executed, and efforts have been made to minimize the encroachment into the rear yard setback. Mr. Ingersoll
reviewed the property lines which will be merged. The proposed project will add an addition to the existing structure and
will be located at the rear of the 2 story residential structure. We will clean up the front, create handicap access and
accentuate the entrance for the new building off of Walworth Street. Employee parking will be in the rear. In speaking
with our neighbors we have an obligation to place a solid fence in the rear, also to enclose our dumpster, add a gate and
install some security lighting. Efforts have been made to minimize the encroachment into the rear yard setback.
The layout selected is approximately 3,200 square feet per floor. A sketch floor plan has been submitted to the Board.
The main entrance is in the front of the building. There is a rear door for some deliveries and emergency egress. Mr.
Ingersoll reviewed the floor plan of the building noting the kitchen is not a full service commercial kitchen. Many area
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restaurants donate food so it is more of a heating and reheating meal preparation. Mr. Ingersoll provided a visual
rendering of the proposed massing of the new addition noting they have moved the building back, thereby reducing the
rear yard setback variance. The building is towards the back and is tucked into the corner of the property along the
industrial side.
Mr. Ingersoll reviewed the area variance requested, including the parking setbacks. These variances relate directly to
the new construction (and not the existing conditions or because of consolidation of existing lots) are side and rear yard
setbacks and maximum principal building coverage (existing two structures and proposed addition). The side yard
setback for the addition would not encroach any further into the setback than already exists with the current structure 5 ft
from side property line. The rear yard setback is taken to the accessible ramp 16.4 ft. the actual structure is
approximately 24 ft. from the rear property line. The majority of the variances are related to existing conditions; parking
in setbacks, side yard setback. Others are a result of the combining of the commonly owned parcels; 2 buildings, small
lot width and building coverage. Efforts have been made to minimize visual impacts of the proposed building plan.
The permeability of the site will be 31% which exceeds the minimum 15% in the district. By placing the proposed
addition behind the existing 2 story residence, the pattern along the street front will not be affected. The proposed
addition would not change the use of the structure from single-family to rooming house. The Planning Board will need to
issue a special use permit for a rooming house. Through that process the Board would consider compatibility of the
proposed use and any potential impacts of the use on the neighborhood, and the layout of the lot with regard to access
and parking arrangement will be considered by the Planning Board.
James Helicke requested the visual presentation be forwarded to staff as well as questioning alternatives and why
wouldn’t a smaller addition work.
Mr. Ingersoll stated they are continuing to look at what meets the code for shelters and provide the necessities and
training and dining. We have looked at providing the basic services and that is how we determined the size of the
addition. We can provide more detail for the Board.
James Helicke stated that would be important for the Board to review in considering the preparation of a resolution.
Are there any alternatives that would make the variances less substantial?
Mr. Ingersoll stated the addition has actually saved some economy with the existing water and sewer to the house
already which we can utilize. The addition has somewhat accomplished better access to the existing house for not only
utilities but handicap access. Any other configuration would have forced us to use Marvin Alley as the access and we
did not want to do that. By leaving the traditional Walworth Street address, it would force entrance and exiting off the
alley. In our discussion with the neighborhood we wanted to discourage that. We will keep the parking where it currently
exists. Our patrons do not have parking requirements. In this configuration and area it does allow for a partial
basement.
Gary Hasbrouck questioned counsel since this is a not for profit organization are they entitled to a relaxation of the
standards.
Tony Izzo, Assistant City Attorney stated possibly and stated he would do the research. It seems like there are some
components of this proposal that might fit the public interest cases. I will look into this and report back to the Board.
Cheryl Grey questioned if the existing staircase will remain and the possibility of a standalone building.
Mr. Ingersoll stated that the existing staircase will remain for egress. The configuration of the addition was the best way
to minimize the variances.
Cheryl Grey questioned the additional door and safety concerns.
Michael Tuck, architect stated what we are looking at is currently East Hall that was previously part of the women’s bunk
room and did present a potential for inadvertent access since the women’s bunk room door could not be locked. By
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introducing this East Hall that rear door can be controlled access. It can be signaled and alarmed. We have to have two
doors with a minimum distance between warranted by the fire code.
Discussion ensued concerning parking and the availability of parking spaces and the lines waiting to sign up for beds.
Mr. Finocchi stated with the proposed 61 beds, as opposed to 41 beds hopefully this will eliminate this. That is the
purpose of our choosing the main entrance in the location proposed. This new configuration will allow patrons to be
processed quickly thereby avoiding the long waiting lines.
James Helicke stated in reviewing the application what is missing is a narrative of what the applicant is trying to do.
It would be helpful if you could provide some additional background in writing describing the benefit you are trying to
achieve.
Susan Steer thanked Mike Finocchi personally for everything he has done for this project.
Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman stated his main concern was the impact on the neighborhood and that has been addressed
with the Memorandum of Understanding currently executed.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Bill Moore, Chairman opened the public hearing at 8:38 P.M.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
Dan Larkin, 126 Burke Road. I am a volunteer of Code Blue and SOS. I support this application. I have been a police
officer for over 31 years. I feel confident that the Police will be able to respond to any issues that may arise with this
venture. I also feel that it is our civic duty to provide for the most needy and most vulnerable in our society. Ideal setting
and opportunity.
Kathleen Fyfe, Vice President of Community Development with the Chamber of Commerce and Program Director of
Leadership Saratoga. I believe you judge a community on how we take care of our most vulnerable. I am honored and
thrilled to be a member of this community. Through the partnerships and conversations, we can work with the neighbors
and the community to help with a solution.
Mike Toohey, Attorney. I have been coming before this Board for 41 years. We have in that time tried to find a way for
neighbors and people to cooperate with each other to create a common goal. I represent Elliott and Cathy Masie who
have $3 million dollars worth of real estate in this immediate area. They are abutting neighbors and they came to me
and we went to SOS and have come up with what we believe is a workable solution for the use and utilization of this
building for Code Blue. I thank everybody who put this together. Libby Coreno and I worked all weekend to come up
with the MOU agreement and we ask you to incorporate that agreement into any positive resolution that you have.
Things can change over time, but at this time we would like to be limited to the Code Blue utilization. Today this
agreement was signed by the Masies as well as SOS. We have honest, good, well intentioned people in this community.
Wally Allerdice, Allerdice Building Supply. I am their neighbor and I have been there since 1982. I have never had one
problem with the shelter. We have even hired a couple of the patrons and given them part time jobs. I cannot think of a
better place in Saratoga for this project. I am very much in favor of it.
Don Wildermuth, Board member for the Shelters of Saratoga for almost 5 years. The services we provide to those who
most need it in our community are of such importance. We continue to do more as we need to do more. This is just
another step in that direction. Thank you for your consideration and thank you to those in favor of this.
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Elliott Masie. As our attorney stated we are happy that a community can work together and have conversations. It is
important and we support and are deeply grateful to the Mitzens for what they have done. The real challenge and
opportunity and has a healthy impact on the neighborhood. It has a high communication impact to the neighborhood.
This is a mixed area and our hope is that it not be the default ground for every not for profit seeking area. The positives
that have come out of this are the way to keep a mixed neighborhood healthy, happy and we meet our obligations to
those less fortunate. We look forward to working with them.
Cheryl Gray questioned if there is a rooming house definition and what happens if this is not being used for Code Blue.
Susan Barden, Senior Planner, City of Saratoga Springs stated we do have a rooming house definition.
Mike Ingersoll stated it would become a two room rooming house.
Susan Steer stated that is a Planning Board issue.
Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman stated this will not affect the scope of what we are doing, we are providing dimensional
relief.
Susan Barden, Senior Planner, City of Saratoga Springs stated this would require a Special Use Permit for the rooming
house. It would be a change from a single family home to a rooming house.
CORRESPONDENCE RECEIVED BY THE BOARD:
Gary Hasbrouck read into the record the following correspondence received by the Board.
-Letter dated March 15, 2017, received by the Franklin Community Center, signed by Cary Cushing.
-Letter dated March 22, 2017 from Captain Youth and Family Services signed by Mike Finocchi.
-Letter dated March 13 2017 from Wellspring signed by Maggie Fronk.
-Letter dated March 22, 2017 from Transitional Services signed by Cybil Newell.
-Letter dated March 22, 2017 from Saratoga County Economic Opportunity Council signed by Joanne Hume.
-Letter dated March 22, 2017 from Saratoga Rural Preservation Company, signed by Cheryl Hague Perez.
Bill Moore, Chairman stated we will leave the public hearing open. A resolution will be prepared and presented at the
next ZBA Meeting scheduled for April 10, 2017.
OLD BUSINESS:
2. #2948 PERRY CARRIAGE HOUSE, 173 Phila Street, area variance for additions to an existing carriage
house; seeking relief from the minimum side and rear yard setback requirements in the urban residential-3 District.
This application was heard at the March 13, 2017 meeting and adjourned to March 27, 2017. The public hearing was
opened and remains open.
RECUSALS:
Bill Moore, Chairman recused from this application.
Susan Steer, Board Member recused from this application.
Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman assumed the duties of the Chair.
Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman stated no additional information was requested from the applicant.
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PUBLIC HEARING:
Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman stated the public hearing was opened and remains open.
Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman closed the public hearing at 8:55 P.M.
Cheryl Grey stated for the record the alley was something that had to be accessible to the neighbor’s garage.
DISCLOSURES:
Board Member Gary Hasbrouck stated he did review the webcast and the minutes and feels informed to vote on the
remainder of the applications before the Board this evening.
Board Alternate Oksana Ludd stated she has also reviewed the webcast and the minutes and feels informed to vote on
this application.
James Helicke presented the following resolution.
#2948
IN THE MATTER OF THE APPEAL OF
Kyle and Jennifer Perry
173 Phila Street
SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY 12866
From the determination of the Building Inspector involving the premises at 173 Phila Street
in the City of Saratoga Springs, NY, being tax parcel number 166.61-1-13 on the Assessment Map of said City. The
Applicant having applied for an area variance to construct additions to an existing carriage house in the Urban
Residential – 3 District and public notice having been duly given of a hearing on said application on March 13 and 27,
2017.
In consideration of the balance between the benefit to the Applicant with detriment to the health, safety and
welfare of the community, I move that the following variance for the following amount of relief:
TYPE OF REQUIREMENT DISTRICT DIMENSIONAL PROPOSED RELIEF REQUESTED
REQUIREMENT
Minimum Side Yard Setback 5 feet .6 feet 4.4 ft. (88%)
Minimum Rear Yard Setback 5 feet 2.5 feet 2.5 ft. (50%)
As per the submitted plans (as described as unfinished storage space) or lesser dimensions, BE APPROVED for the
following reasons:
1. The Applicant has demonstrated this benefit cannot be achieved by other means feasible to the applicant. As
the application states, “The only alternative which would not require a variance would be to demolish the
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existing carriage house and construct a new carriage house within the minimum setbacks…It was not a
desirable alternative to tear down the original carriage house within the city historic district”.
2. The Applicant has demonstrated that granting this variance will not produce an undesirable change in
neighborhood character or detriment to the nearby properties. The additions are setback from the rear and side
property lines further than the existing carriage house. As the application states, “The additions will be in
keeping with the original character of the carriage house”. In addition, DRC Historic Review is required.
3. The request for relief for side and rear yard setbacks is substantial, but this is mainly due to the location of the
existing carriage house on the lot; both existing dimensions are preexisting nonconforming and both additions
are more conforming to the district requirements.
4. The Applicant has demonstrated that granting this variance will not have an adverse physical or environmental
effect on the neighborhood. As the application states, “The variance will not have adverse environmental or
physical effects on the neighborhood or district because they are minimal additions to an already existing
structure”.
5. The request for relief may be considered a self-created hardship due to the applicant’s desire to construct the
addition. However, self-creation is not necessarily fatal to the application.
Note:
DRC Historic Review is required.
Cheryl Grey seconded the motion.
Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman; in favor; Gary Hasbrouck, in favor; Cheryl Grey, in favor; James Helicke, in favor;
Oksana Ludd, alternate, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 5-0
Bill Moore, Chairman resumed the duties of the Chair.
Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman resumed the duties of the Vice Chair.
Susan Steer, Board member resumed her position on the Board.
Oksana Ludd, alternate Board Member exited the meeting at 9:05 P.M.
3. #2949 PASTECKI RESIDENCE, 12 Schuyler Drive, area variance for an addition to an existing single-family
residence; seeking relief from the minimum side yard and total side yard setbacks and maximum principal building
coverage requirements in the urban residential-1 district.
This application was heard at the March 13, 2017 meeting and adjourned to the March 27, 2017. The public hearing
was opened and remains open.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Bill Moore, Chairman stated the public hearing was opened and remains open.
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Bill Moore, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
None heard.
Bill Moore, Chairman closed the public hearing at 9:07 P.M.
Gary Hasbrouck presented the following resolution.
#2949
IN THE MATTER OF THE APPEAL OF
Elizabeth Pastecki
12 Schuyler Drive
SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY 12866
From the Building Inspector’s determination for the same premises, identified as tax parcel number 166.14-1-5,
Whereas, the appellant has applied for area variances for relief from the current City Zoning Ordinance for minimum side
yard setback, total side yard setback and maximum principal building coverage for an addition to an existing single-family
house in an Urban Residential – 1 zoning district; and public notice having been duly given of a hearing on said
application held on March 13th & 27th, 2017,
Whereas, in consideration of the balance between benefit to the applicant with detriment to the health, safety and
welfare of the community, the Board makes the following resolution that the requested area variances for the following
relief or lesser dimensions be approved:
REQUIRED PROPOSED TOTAL RELIEF
REQUESTED
Minimum side yard setback: 12 feet 3 feet 9 ft. (75%)
Minimum total side yard setback: 30 feet 10 feet 20 ft. (67%)
Maximum principal building coverage: 20% 24.4% 4.4% (22%)
1. The applicant has demonstrated this benefit cannot be achieved by other means feasible to the applicant. The
application states, “The existing house already exceeds zoning allowances. The addition of a family room, no
matter how small, would require an area variance. There is no available land (for sale)”. The Board notes the
home is older than the existing UR-1 zoning
2. The applicant has demonstrated that granting this variance will not create an undesirable change in
neighborhood character or detriment to nearby properties. The application states, “The addition proposed will
be on the back of the house”. The applicant also noted the addition would only be seen from the athletic fields
west of the project”. The Board also notes the addition will be bordered by an existing garage which further
shields the view of the addition from the neighbors.
3. The relief requested may be considered substantial. However, the addition will not encroach any further toward
the side yard setback than the existing garage. The maximum building coverage variance does not appear to
be substantial in this case.
4. The applicant has demonstrated this variance will not have an adverse physical or environmental effect on the
neighborhood. The Board notes no request for permeability variances.
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5. The difficulty may be considered self-created. This, however, is not necessarily fatal to the application.
Susan Steer seconded the motion.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Bill Moore, Chairman, in favor; Kaplan, Vice Chairman; in favor; Susan Steer, in favor; Gary Hasbrouck, in favor;
Cheryl Grey, in favor; James Helicke, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman made a motion to approve the minutes of the March 13, 2017 ZBA meeting as amended.
Gary Hasbrouck seconded the motion.
Bill Moore, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Bill Moore, Chairman, in favor; Keith Kaplan, Vice Chairman, in favor; Susan Steer, in favor;
Gary Hasbrouck, in favor; Cheryl Grey, in favor; James Helicke, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
Susan Steer brought up the use of alternates to fill absences on the Board.
Discussion ensued among the Board concerning alternates.
MOTION TO ADJOURN:
There being no further business to discuss Bill Moore, Chairman adjourned the meeting at 9:25 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Diane M. Buzanowski
Recording Secretary
APPROVED 4/24/17
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