Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · May 16, 2022
Minutes
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
MINUTES (FINALDRAFT)
MONDAY, MAY 16, 2021
6:30 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERSZOOM WEBINAR
CALL TO ORDER: Gage Simpson, Chair, called the meeting to order at 6:31 P.M.
SALUTE TO THE FLAG:
PRESENT: Gage Simpson, Chair; Brad Gallagher, Vice Chair; Cheryl Grey; Keith Kaplan; Emily Bergmann
Matthew Gutch; Justin Farrington
; John Daley, Alternate
ABSENT: Emily Bergmann ; Justin Farrington
STAFF: Aneisha Samuels, Senior Planner, City of Saratoga Springs
Patrick Cogan, Building Inspector/Zoning Officer
Jackie White, Counsel to the Land Use Boards
ANNOUNCEMENT OF RECORDING OF PROCEEDING:
The proceedings of this meeting are being recorded for the benefit of the secretary. Because the minutes are not a verbatim record of
the proceedings, the minutes are not a word-for-word transcript of the recording.
APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES:
Cherie Grey made a motion to approve the minutes of the March 14, 20222022, Zoning Board of Appeals Meeting with amendments as
submitted. . Gage Simpson seconded the motion.
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Gage Simpson,Keith Kaplan, Chair, asked if there was any further discussion. . None heard.
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VOTE:
Gage Simpson, Keith Kaplan, Chair, in favor; Brad Gallagher, Vice Chair; in favor; Cherie Grey, in favor; Gage Simpson, in favor;Keith
Kaplan, in favor;
Matthew Gutch, in favor; John Daley, Alternate, Emily Bergmann, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 56-0
ZBA APPLICATIONS UNDER CONSIDERATION:
NEW BUSINESS:
1. #20220262 29 MADISON AVENUE AREA VARIANCE, 29 Madison Avenue, Area Variance to permit an addition to the existing
Single-family home and modifications to the existing carriage house to facilitate a two-car household two home officestwo-car
household two home offices, and a
Gym within the Urban Residential-1 (UR-1) District.
AREA VARIANCE CONSIDERATIONS:
TYPE OF REQUIREMENT REQUIRED PROPOSED TOTAL RELIEF REQUESTED
Maximum Principal Coverage% 20% 35.6% 40.7% or 103.5%
Maximum Accessory Coverage % 8% 9.4% 1.4% or 17.5%
Side 1 – Side Porch 12 ft. 6.1 ft. 5.9 ft. or 49.2%
Total Side 30 ft. 17 ft. 13 ft. or 43.3%
Finished space in accessory structure Not permitted Permitted 100%
Applicant: Carlson Molloy Residence
Agent: Mike Tuck & Peter Urban – Balzer Tuck Architecture
DISCLOSURE:
Cherie Grey disclosed that she is approximatelybout 230 ft. from this property location. She has no financial interest in this application
and can be impartial in voting.
Mr. Tuck provided an aerial visual of the property location. Mr. Tuck provided a history of the home and property, as well as an aerial
view of the site. The intention of the
Aapplicant is proposing to remove some of the previous additions and replace it with a new addition. . The property currently has aan
inground pool which will be removing as well as expanding the current carriage house. to facilitate a two car household. The interior of
the home will be reconfigured to meet the needs of the homeowners. . The lot requirements for this district isare 12,500 sq. ft and this
existing non conformingnon-conforming lot is 7,500 sq. ft. ft. What we are proposing will increase the principal coverage and slightly
decrease the accessory coverage. . Photographs of the current home and carriage house were provided to the Board as well as the
current site plan showing the areas where requested variances would be requiredneeded. . The intent is come off the rear of the home
maintain the existing width of the home adding 15 ft. of living space and add additional 10 ft. to replace the screen porch. . We are also
proposing to change the configuration of the roof on the second floor to obtain additionalmore second floor space. . On the accessory
structure/carriage house we are proposing an additional 12 ft. addition to the east. . Mr. Tuck reviewed the floor plans and elevations
for the home and carriage house for the Boards information and review. . No changes are proposed to the front façade of the home
facing Madison Avenue. . Perspective views were provided from all elevations. . Alternative designs were considered but were not in
keeping with the historic nature of the home or meeting the clients needs. This project is required to appear before the DRC as well. .
Keith Kaplan stated this is an UR-1 District with 12,500 sq. ft. minimum lot size. This is an undersized lot in this district. . It What
wwould be helpful if nearby neighborhood properties f lot square footages of their lots and coverage percentages for
of coverage for the principal buildings were submitted for neighborhood comparables. for those lots.
Aneisha Samuels, Senior Planner, stated there were details missing from the submitted plans. . The plans did not include all the
numbers requiredneeded to determine cide on the current relief required or requested. . Calculations are need for the distance from
the proposed chimney to the side yard, and also the dimensions for the total side and also ffor the patio off the carriage house to the
side.
Mr. Tuck statedsaid the patio from the carriage house to the side yard is existing. .
Gage Simpson, Chair, reviewed the areas of relief for total side.
Aneisha Samuels, Senior Planner, stated the calculation for the total side yard will change based on the information the applicant’s
agent will submit.
Brad Gallagher, Vice Chair questioned if the A/C units and compressor unit considered in the calculations.
Mr. Tuck noted they have been included in the calculations.
Brad Gallagher, Vice Chair questioned staff regarding if these are compliant regardingon the proximity to the lot line. . It appears they
are close.
Aneisha Samuels, Senior Planner statedsaid accessory structures must be 5 ft. off the property line, it appears the applicant will also
need
setback relief for the two A/C units as proposed. . They would require setback relief.
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Mr. Tuck questioned if they would need relief if they were wall mounted units.
Aneisha Samuels, Senior Planner, stated if they were wall mounted units, they would be calculated from how far they extend to the
side yard.
Brad Gallagher, Vice Chair, stated he does not have any issues with the proposed addition, Itit is rather largelarge, but the lot is small.
He understands the carriage house design and the internal staircase which dictates the design. .
Cherie Grey stated what Keith spoke about and is a concern of hers regarding is the comparison of neighborhood homes being on
another lot of this size, where . If the percentages are near 30% principal and 9.4% accessory. . Whether or not there are lots of this
size in the neighborhood
Using using both Madison Avenue and 5th Avenue for comparison. . Also, what is the distance from the rear lot line to the garage.
Mr. Tuck stated 10 ft. 7 in. to the roofline from the rear lot .line.
Cherie Grey stated she does feels this is a large addition for this house. . 30% is high on coverage and she is curious as to what the
neighborhood comparables will reveal. . She voiced concern that the new additions’s height and if it would be in would be lower than
that of the principal structure in keeping with the DRC historic guidelines. . Also, what is driving the size of the addition the first floor or
the second floor?
Mr. Tuck stated the height of the accessory structure is lower than that of the principal structure. . We have been very deliberate about
tThe historic structure as it relates to the addition while being sensitive to the character of the historic home. . Mr. Tuck stated the first
floor. They areare trying to preserve the character of the Madison Avenue side of the home but also to create a light, open space for
the family.
Cherie Grey is still concerned regardingabout the overall coverage percentage at almost 40%, and she is still struggling with it and the
creation of setting a precedent in the neighborhood. . Were there any feasible alternatives considered to help reduce the coverage.
Mr. Tuck stated they did struggle with thatthat, and he providedsupplied information to the Board regarding what was discussed and
any alternatives
they could implement to help with the reduction in coverage.
Gage Simpson, Chair, stated the overall coverage increase is approximately 5%, . 35% existing and 40.1% proposed.
Matthew Gutch questioned if the applicants are proposing a ½ bath in the second story of the carriage house along with an exercise
room and office. . Are any other utilities planned for this area?
Mr. Tuck stated they are proposing a sink and a toilet for this ½ bath. They are no other applicances planned for this area.
John Daley, alternate, echoed Keith and Cherie’s comments. It will be good to have a sample of neighborhood comparables for
context. .
Gage Simpson, Chair stated the Board is looking for some neighborhood comparables.
Aneisha Samuels, Senior Planner, suggested the Board request an Advisory Opinion from the DRC prior to any decision by the ZBA. .
Mr. Tuck questioned the process if they need to appear before the DRC following their appearance and variances from the ZBA.
Aneisha Samuels, Senior Planner, stated the ZBA would be requesting an Advisory Opinion from the DRC. . It is an
Administrativeadministrative process. . You do not need to appear before the Commission. . This is just a guide for the ZBA since you
are asking for significant
relief in terms of the carriage house and this is to determine how they feel regarding mass and scale and appearance in this historic
district. . Pending their Advisory OpinionOpinion, the Board will consider the relief requested.
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Keith Kaplan statedsaid if the DRC offers an opinion that might likely change some of the dimensions and design of the project then the
applicant would need to return to the ZBA. . It is better to obtain this information now, and then we can move the application ahead.
Keith Kaplan made a motion in the matter of 29 Madison Avenue Area Variance, 29 Madison Avenue, the ZBA requests an Advisory
Opinion from the DRC for this project. . Cherie Grey seconded the motion.
Gage Simpson, Chair asked if there was any further discussion. . None heard.
VOTE:
Gage Simpson, Chair, in favor; Brad Gallagher, Vice Chair; in favor; Cherie Grey, in favor; Keith Kaplan, in favor;
Matthew Gutch, in favor; John Daley, Alternate, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
PUBLIC HEARING:
Gage Simpson, Chair, opened the public hearing at 7:10 P.M.
Gage Simpson, Chair, asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. . None heard.
Gage Simpson, Chair, stated the public hearing will remain open. until the next meeting scheduled for June 6th. The applicant will
return before the Board following receipt of the Advisory Opinion from the DRC. We have also requested additional information from
the applicant’s agent.
2. #20220229 3 MCALLISTER AREA VARIANCE, 3 McAllister Drive, Area Variance to permit the expansion of the porch and
renovate the second story within the Urban Residential-1 (UR-1) District.
AREA VARIANCE CONSIDERATIONS:
TYPE OF REQUIREMENT REQUIRED PROPOSED TOTAL RELIEF REQUESTED
Maximum Principal Coverage % 20% 21.3% 1.3% or 6.5%
Setback-Front – Porch 30 ft. 9 ft. 21ft. or 70%
Setback-Front -– Home 30 ft. 15 ft. 15 ft. or 50%
Applicant: David & Laura Acquavella
Mr. Acquavella provided a photograph ofstated basically the entire street is nonconforming. A photograph of the neighborhood was
provided with the application. They are proposing to construct a second story addition and front porch addition their home. . This is in
keeping with the character of the neighborhood. T and the porch will havebe the same distance of front yard setback as other homes
on their street. . The front porch steps will remain uncovered.
Cherie Grey questioned the applicant regardingabout the photo provided along with the front porch distances of the neighborhood.
Mr. Acquavella stated they are only requesting an additional 2 ft. to the edge of pavement and along the length of the house.
Aneisha Samuels, Senior Planner, stated the applicant did not provide a survey. . We are unsure if there is any additional relief is
required. . If the survey could be providedprovided, we cancould assure that no additional relief is required.
Cherie Grey questioned if the applicant considered reducing the size of the porch to meet the coverage requirements without a
variance, either width wise or length wise. . Are there any accessory structures on the property would require , if so do you have
thothose coverage figures as well as any A/C unit coveragecoverage figures.?
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Mr. Acquavella stated they feel a 4 ft. wide porch is really unusable. They did not consider shortening the length of the porch.
It goes along the front of the house, andhouse and provides coverage to the front windows from the elements as well. . Mr. Acquavella
stated they have a shed in the rear yard and . The accessory structures total 8% coverage. .
Cherie Grey stated all these add to the total coverage. . In the future we would have to add in the principal coverage with your
accessory coverage to assure you do not exceed coverage. in the future. She requested any accessory structure coverages, A/C Unit
coverage or a generator coverages if if there is one on the property.
Keith Kaplan questioned the current lot size.
Mr. Acquavella stated the lot is 12,304 sq. ft.
Keith Kaplan stated when a resolution is presented it should state that any future accessory structure would be limited to 6.7%.
Gage Simpson, Chair, stated the Board has requested a copy of the survey.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Gage Simpson, Chair, opened the public hearing at 7:32 P.M.
Gage Simpson, Chair, asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
Gage Simpson, Chair, closed the public hearing at 7:34 P.M.
Gage Simpson, Chair, stated at this time we do have a resolution prepared. .
Cherie Grey presented the following resolution.
#20220229
IN THE MATTER OF THE APPEAL OF
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3 McAllister Drive
Saratoga Springs NY 12866 Formatted: Font: Bold
from the determination of the Building Inspector involving the premises at 3 McAllister Drive in the City of Saratoga Springs, New York
being tax parcel number 166.14-4-4, in the UR-1 district on the Assessment Map of said City.
This being an application for an area variance under the Zoning Ordinance of said City to permit the construction of a second story
addition and a front porch addition to an existing home and public notice having been duly given of a hearing on said application held
on May 16, 2022.
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In consideration of the balance between benefit to the applicant with detriment to the health, safety, and welfare of the community, I
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move that the following area variances for the following amounts of relief:
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TYPE OF REQUIREMENT DISTRICT DIMENSIONAL PROPOSED RELIEF REQUESTED Formatted: Not Small caps
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Maximum Principal Coverage 20% 21.3% 1.3% or 6.5% Formatted: Not Small caps
Minimum Front Yard Setback- Porch 30’ 9’ 21’ OR 70% Formatted: Not Small caps
Min. Front Yard Setback- Home 30’ 15’ 15’ or 50%
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As per the submitted plans or lesser dimensions, be approved for the following reasons:
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1. The applicant has demonstrated this benefit cannot be achieved by other means feasible to the applicant. Per the
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applicant, the coverage requested is to allow for the replacement of a front stoop to a front porch. The applicant sited
neighbors’ additions that are in keeping with the percentage of lot coverage required. The house is pre-existing and will
also have a second story addition in the front of the house which will not change the footprint of the existing home. Per the
applicant the porch will be at the same distance of front yard setback as other homes on the street. The Board notes the
request appears consistent with the neighborhood.
2. The applicant has demonstrated that granting these variances will not create an undesirable change in neighborhood
character or detriment to nearby properties. The applicant noted the porch is within the same distance front setback as
others in the neighborhood, demonstrating for the Board that there are other houses with similar front porches in the
immediate area. The principal coverage is due to the fact that the existing house is at the maximum of 20% and any
changes or additions to the home would cause an increase in overall coverage.
3. The Board notes the front yard setback is substantial at 70% and 50% for the porch and home respectively, however the
substantiality of these variances is mitigated by the lack of adverse impact as noted above.
4. This variance will not have a significant adverse physical or environmental effect on the neighborhood or district. Applicant
noted the front porch will add to the aesthetic of the facade. Permeability will meet the district requirement.
5. The alleged difficulty is self-created insofar as the applicant’s desire to construct the front porch to an existing single-family
residence, but this is not necessarily fatal to the application.
Conditions:
Any future accessory structure is limited to 6.7%.
JJohn Daley, Alternate, seconded the motion.
Gage Simpson, Chair. asked if there was any further discussion. . None heard.
VOTE:
Gage Simpson, Chair, in favor; Brad Gallagher, Vice Chair; in favor; Cherie Grey, in favor; Keith Kaplan, in favor;
Matthew Gutch, in favor; John Daley, Alternate, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
3. #20220217 17 PARK AREA VARIANCE, 17 Park Place, Area Variance to permit the construction of a new single-family home with
a detached multi-unit carriage house within the Urban Residential-4 (UR-4) District.
AREA VARIANCE CONSIDERATIONS:
TYPE OF REQUIREMENT REQUIRED PROPOSED TOTAL RELIEF REQUESTED
Setback-Front-Regent 25 ft. 10ft. 15 ft. or 60%
Setback-Front – Park Place 25 ft. 17.5 ft. 7.5 ft. or 30%
Side 1 – Window well 20 ft. 13 ft. 7 ft. or 35%
Side 1 – Home 20 ft. 16 ft. 4 ft. or 20%
Carriage House – Setback- Front – Park Place 25 ft. 17.5 ft. 7.5 ft. or 30%
Side 1 20 ft. 5.25 ft. 14.75 ft. or 73.8%
Parking in Front Setback Not Permitted Permitted 100%
Parking in Side Setback Not Permitted Permitted 100%
Total Side 45 ft. 25.25 ft. 19.75 ft. or 43.9%
Applicant: Christopher & Megan LaPointLapointe
The applicants are proposing to build a 2700 sq. ft. main house and a 1500 sq. ft. carriage house with 2 rental units.
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The contractorScott statedsaid this is a vacant lot which was subdivided off ofoff 23 Park Place which was a larger project that these
applicantthese applicants are proposing. . In reviewing the visual of the streetscapestreetscape, the applicants are attempting to
maintain mature oak trees on the site and the design is driven by the trees. . The carriage house will share a driveway with the
property at 23 Park Place. . A site plan was provided. . The hedge row in place will be maintained to the best extent possible. . The
project is structured in terms of harmony with the character of the neighborhood. .
Keith Kaplan stated he is confused regarding the property. . Several years agoago, the Guarino’s appeared before the Board at 21
Park Place with a much larger project. . Which was did the split go.
Mr. LaPointLapointe provided a visual of how the property was divided from 21 Park Place which maintains the address on Park Place
because the due to the fact that the driveway is maintained on Park Place.
Keith Kaplan spoke regarding the size of the lot following the division which 11, 884 sq. ft. and we are proposing 3 units on the
property, . Oone single family home and a carriage house with 2 units. . There is approximately 4,000+ square ft. per unit and the
requirement is 3,000 sq. ft. per dwelling unit. . It seems reasonable and fairly straightforwardstraightforward. . This is a very historic
neighborhood.
This project the way it is structured is in harmony with the character of the neighborhood.
John Daley, Alternate, stated this project is well done and within the character of the neighborhood. . He questioned if the parking
requirement for the project will be met.
The contractorScott stated this does meet the parking requirements for this district. . Three spaces are required for the carriage house
and the applicant is providing the required amount of parking.
Cherie Grey reviewed the single familysingle-family home and a carriage house with two units, meeting the district requirements. . She
did voice concerns regarding parking in the front of the home in this historic neighborhood so close to Regent Street. . Can you provide
the distance on Regent Street for parkingparking? showing if this iIs in line with other homes on Regent Street particularly on this side
of the street.
Brad Gallagher, Vice Chair, stated on the other side of Regent across the street from this property there is parking indicated which is
just as close as the applicant is proposing. .
Cherie Grey stated the property across the street is a converted carriage house and this is a blank slate.
Aneisha Samuels, Senior Planner stated that is correct. . For this district it is 1.5 parking spaces per unit. . They are fine in this regard.
However, based on Planning Board approval we do require an Advisory Opinion from the Planning Board with regard to their driveway
and also, we do need a DRC Advisory Opinion and approval.
The contractorScott stated there is language in the purchase agreement that states the applicant has unlimited access on the rear
property line, for both vehicular and pedestrian access. .
Gage Simpson, Chair, stated the Board also requested some neighborhood comparables noting the proximity to Regent Street is in line
with the neighborhood.
Mr. LaPointLapointe stated they will provide the requested information to the Board.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Gage Simpson, Chair, opened the public hearing at 8:00 P.M.
Gage Simpson, Chair asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
Aneisha Samuels, Senior Planner, statedsaid for the Boards information the Planning Boards previous approval listed some conditions
for this property, which the Board should review. . It indicates we request a DRC Advisory Opinion as well as a Planning Board
Advisory Opinion regarding placement of the driveway. . There were five conditions listed in this approval for subdivision of 21 Park
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Place. . The Board should review both conditions and Potentially potentially follow up with the applicant as to what is needed and
request the Advisory Opinions from the Boards. .
Cherie Grey made a motion in the matter of the 17 Park Place Area Variance, 17 Park Place, the ZBA requests an Advisory Opinion
from the DRC for this project. . Keith Kaplan seconded the motion.
Gage Simpson, Chair, asked if there was any further discussion. . None heard.
VOTE:
Gage Simpson, Chair, in favor; Brad Gallagher, Vice Chair; in favor; Cherie Grey, in favor; Keith Kaplan, in favor;
Matthew Gutch, in favor; John Daley, Alternate, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
Cherie Grey made a motion in the matter of the 17 Park Place Area Variance, 17 Park Place, the ZBA requests an Advisory Opinion
from the Planning Board for this project. . Keith Kaplan seconded the motion.
Gage Simpson, Chair, asked if there was any further discussion. . None heard.
VOTE:
Gage Simpson, Chair, in favor; Brad Gallagher, Vice Chair; in favor; Cherie Grey, in favor; Keith Kaplan, in favor;
Matthew Gutch, in favor; John Daley, Alternate, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
Gage Simpson, Chair, asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
Ashley Gardner, 105 Regent Street. . We aAs a neighborhood we have been fighting high density on this lot for years. . Her biggest
concern is the requested 10 ft. variance from Regent Street. . All ofAll the houses on that block are approximately a 25ft. setback from
Regent Street. This would be inconsistent with the neighborhood. . It will create a strange mass and scale in the neighborhood. .
Steven McIntyre, 110 Regent Street. . The applicant is his daughter and son-in-law. . The Boards have approved similar variances on
my home at 110 Regent Street which is a home and a carriage house. . This is the only way the city can get some infill development
without apartments in the city. .
David Guarino, 21 Park Place. . We had many meetings with the Land Use Boards on the previousearlier project. . He spoke
regardingabout what approvals and conditions which were placed by the Planning Board and the current proposed plan. .
Michael Ladd, 113 Regent Street. . He has owned the property since 1998. . He believes that the side of the carriage house is too
close to Regent Street. . This is not in character with the neighborhood. .
Aneisha Samuels, Senior Planner, provided information to the made the Board regarding the aware of a significant amount of public
comment which was ssubmitted and available for review on lineonline. .
Gage Simpson, Chair, stated the public hearing will remain open until the next meeting scheduled for June 6, 2022. . We will await the
information from the DRC and the Planning Board along with the information requested from the applicant.
4. #20220218 52 DOTEN AREA VARIANCE, 52 Doten Avenue, Area Variance to permit a rear addition to the existing residence in
the The
UUrban Residential-2 (UR-2) District.
AREA VARIANCE CONSIDERATIONS:
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TYPE OF REQUIREMENT REQUIRED PROPOSED TOTAL RELIEF REQUESTED
Maximum Principal Coverage 30% 30.6% 0.6% or 2.0%
Applicant: Joe Juidiciani & Meghan Breen
Mr. Juidiciani stated they are proposing the addition of a a small screen room 20 x 16 on the rear of their home. . When they
purchased this home they knew it was about the maximum coverage percentage. WWe are looking for a slight variance to accomplish
this.
DISCLOSURE:
Brad Gallagher, Vice Chair, disclosed that he knows Joe Juidiciani. . They attended law school together. The Vice Chair stated he
does live in the neighborhood more than 500 ft. from this property. . He has no interest in this application and it does not influence his
ability to be impartial in this application.
It is a very modest ask.
Brad GallagerGallagher, Vice Chair, stated he is familiar with the property. . The ask is very modest ask, very straightforward given the
neighborhood context.
Mr. Juidiciani statedsaid there are several coveredage porches in the neighborhood. . It is in conformance with the neighborhood.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Gage Simpson, Chair, opened the public hearing at 8:21 P.M.
Gage Simpson, Chair, asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. . None heard.
Aneisha Samuels, Senior Planner, questioned the applicant if the stairs to the rear are included in the coverage percentage numbers
and setback calculations. . Please confirm those numbers.
Mr. Juidiciani stated those rear stairs will be removed and the patio reconfigured. . He will provide the final calculations to staff.
Gage Simpson, Chair, closed the public hearing at 8:22 P.M.
Brad Gallagher, Vice Chair, presented the following resolution.
#20220218
IN THE MATTER OF THE APPEAL OF
Joseph Juidiciani & Meghan Breen Formatted: Font: Bold
52 Doten Avenue
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Formatted: Font: Bold
from the determination of the Building Inspector involving the premises at 52 Doten Avenue in the City of Saratoga Springs, New York
being tax parcel number 178.52-2-16.2 on the Assessment Map of said City.
The applicant having applied for an area variance under the Zoning Ordinance of said City to seek relief to construct a small screen
porch addition in the Urban Residential – 2 (UR-2) District and public notice having been duly given of a hearing on said application
held on May 16, 2022.
In consideration of the balance between benefit to the applicant with detriment to the health, safety and welfare of the community, I
move that the following area variance for the following amount of relief:
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TYPE OF REQUIREMENT DISTRICT PROPOSED RELIEF Formatted: Font: Bold, Not Small caps, All caps
DIMENSIONAL REQUESTED Formatted: Centered
REQUIREMENT
Maximum Lot Coverage 30% 31% 1% or 3.3% Formatted: Not Small caps
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As per the submitted plans or lesser dimensions, be approved for the following reasons:
1. The Board finds that the applicant has demonstrated this benefit cannot be achieved by other means feasible to the applicant.
The applicant seeks to construct a small screen room addition that is approximately 200 sq. ft. to the rear of the existing
principal structure. The Board notes that the current primary residence has an integrated garage and that there are no existing
accessory structures on the property. The applicant notes that there is no additional property available for purchase.
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2. The Board finds that the applicant has demonstrated that granting this variance will not create an undesirable change in
neighborhood character or detriment to nearby properties. According to the applicant, the proposed screened in porch is small
and located behind the residence and will not be able to be seen from the street. The Board notes that there are several other
properties in the neighborhood that have screened porches located in the rear of the residences.
3. The Board does not find this variance to be substantial.
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4. This Board finds this variance will not have significant adverse physical or environmental effect on the neighborhood or district.
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5. The alleged difficulty is self-created insofar as the applicant desires to construct a small, screened addition in the rear of the
property, but this is not necessarily fatal to the application.
CONDITIONS: Future accessory structures are limited to 9%.
Cherie Grey seconded the motion.
Gage Simpson, Chair, asked if there was any further discussion. . None heard.
VOTE:
Gage Simpson, Chair, in favor; Brad Gallagher, Vice Chair; in favor; Cherie Grey, in favor; Keith Kaplan, in favor;
Matthew Gutch, in favor; John Daley, Alternate, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
CONTINUED BUSINESS:
DISCLOSURE:
John Daley, Alternate, stated he has not attended all the meetings with regarding the continued business applications.
He has viewed the webcasts, andwebcasts and read the material as well as conversations with staff. . He feels confident voting on
these applications this evening.
5. #20220195 132 FIFTH AVENUE AREA VARIANCE, 132 Fifth Avenue, Area Variance to permit the construction of a
second story addition to an existing residence within the Urban Residential-1 (UR-1) District.
Gage Simpson, Chair, stated this is a previously opened application. . The public hearing was opened and remains open.
Applicant: Steven & Jennifer Meglio
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Agent: Stephanie Ferradino, Ferradino Firm
Ms. Ferradino stated no additional information was submitted regarding this application. .
Gage Simpson, Chair, asked if there were any further questions or comments from the Board.
Cherie Grey stated she had previously requested if there were any further alternatives discussed or considered. . No alternative
designs were discussed or presented. . The five variances requested are well over 50%.
Ms. Ferradino provided background information and research done by the Meglio’s prior to their purchase of the property. Ms.
Ferradino spoke regarding the financial issues in demolishing the structure and starting new, and the negative impact on the
environment without an impact to rear neighbors which faces the track. . It is within the standards and consistent with the
neighborhood which is in transition.
Cherie Grey discussed placing a two storytwo-story home on this lot feels like fitting a round peg into a square hole. . She is struggling
with this application which is requestingasking very largeexceptionally large variances on this size lot. . She is also concerned about
the 7.9 ft. setback and the precedent setting nature of this variance. . She is uncomfortable with this application.
Gage Simpson, Chair, stated he has been on the fence with the overall requested variances. . As Cherie mentioned the variances
requested are very largeexceptionally large, almost maxed out on all variances. . It has been stated that this is an existing footprint
going up and the information presented has convinced the Chair to be in favor of this application.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Gage Simpson, Chair, stated the public hearing remains open.
Gage Simpson, Chair, asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. . None heard.
Cherie Grey questioned clarifying the rear setback to make it more specific.
Aneisha Samuels, Senior Planner, stated in the resolution it is stated as per submitted plans, however we could include in the
resolution the two separate setbacks. .
Gage Simpson, Chair, closed the public hearing at 8:42 P.M.
Ms. Ferradino stated the applicants are happy with a condition on the resolution noting as per the submitted plans to keep that 7.7 ft.
limited to the existing footprint on not apply to the entire property.
Matthew Gutch presented the following resolution.
#20220195
IN THE MATTER OF THE APPEAL OF
Steven and Jennifer Meglio
132 Fifth Avenue
Saratoga Springs NY 12866
In the matter of the appeal from the Building Inspector’s determination involving a parcel at 132 Fifth Ave., in the City of Saratoga
Springs, New York, being Tax Parcel 166.14-4-27 on the assessment map of said City. The applicants having applied for an area
variance under the Zoning Ordinance of said City to permit the construction of a second story and a rear addition to an existing
principal structure in the UR-1 District and public notice having been duly given of a hearing on said application held on the 4th day of
April through the 16th day of May 2022.
In consideration of the balance between benefit to the applicant with detriment to the health, safety, and welfare of the community, I
move that the following area variances for the following amount of relief:
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TYPE OF REQUIREMENT DISTRICT DIMENSIONAL PROPOSED RELIEF REQUESTED
REQUIREMENT
Max Principal Coverage % 20% 49% 29.0% or 145%
Minimum. Front Yard Setback 30ft 11.6ft 18.4ft or 61.3% relief
Rear Setback 30ft 7.7ft 22.3ft or 74.3%
Side Yard (West) Setback 12ft 4.1ft 7.9ft or 65.8%
Total Side Yard Setback 30ft 12ft 18ft or 60.0% relief
As per the submitted plans or lesser dimension, be approved as per this Board’s consideration of the following factors:
1. The applicants have demonstrated this benefit cannot be achieved by other means feasible to the applicants. The applicants
propose to construct a full second floor to the existing building footprint, except the portion on the western rear portion of the
house which will be a single-story great room with high ceilings. The Board notes that the lot is on the southern portion of Fifth
Ave, where the lot depth is constrained by the neighboring Oklahoma track, the applicant notes that there was no additional
land available to purchase to alleviate the relief requested. The applicants noted that other designs were reviewed but were
cost prohibitive. The applicants further note that a full demolition of the house for new construction was reviewed but was not
cost effective.
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2. The applicants have demonstrated that granting this variance will not create an undesirable change in the neighborhood
character or detriment to nearby properties. The applicants noted that the proposed relief will allow the house to be more in
line with neighboring homes, providing the Board with neighborhood context of other homes which have similar designs for
their nonconforming lots and indicating that several that have added a second story. The applicants further note that the
coverage of the principal structure will decrease slightly from the existing 50% to the proposed 49%, with the changes
reducing overhangs in some areas while the addition partly offsets the impact of those reductions. The proposal includes
space on the second floor; the applicants point out that many of the neighborhood properties have a second floor, and that
there are no windows looking down from the second floor into the western neighbor’s property.
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3. The Board notes the requested variances are substantial. However, the Board notes that the relief requested is mitigated by
the neighborhood context and lack of significant adverse impact on the neighboring properties, as noted above.
4. These variances will not have a significant adverse physical or environmental effect on the neighborhood or district. The
subject parcel will exceed district requirements for permeability.
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5. The alleged difficulty may be considered self-created insofar as the applicant’s desire to construct a second floor and rear
addition, but this is not necessarily fatal to the application.
Conditions:
I. There are to be no functional windows on the western-facing side of the house on the second floor
II. These variances will be null and void if 25% or more of the existing foundation is removed or replaced, including planned
demolition and/or act of God.
III. No future accessories are permitted.
Cherie Grey seconded the motion.
Gage Simpson, Chair, asked if there was any further discussion. .
Discussion ensued among the Board, with Counsel and the Building Inspector regarding clarifying the resolution.
VOTE:
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Gage Simpson, Chair, in favor; Brad Gallagher, Vice Chair; in favor; Cherie Grey, opposed; Keith Kaplan, in favor;
Matthew Gutch, in favor; John Daley, Alternate, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 5-1
RECUSAL:
Matthew Gutch recused from the following application and exited the meeting. .
6. #20220202 31-33 MARION AVENUE AREA VARIANCE, 31-33 Marion Avenue, Area Variance to permit the demolition of the
existing garage, mobile station and car wash and to construct a convenience store, gasoline, canopy, car wash and rental space
within the Tourist Related Business (TRB)District.
AREA VARIANCE CONSIDERATIONS:
TYPE OF REQUIREMENT REQUIRED PROPOSED TOTAL RELIEF REQUESTED
Front Yard Setback 40 ft. 8 ft. 32 ft.
Applicant: Stewart's Shops; Ryan Rubado, Stewart’s Shops
Agent: Libby Coreno, Law Offices of M. Elizabeth Coreno; Ryan Rubado, Stewart’s Shops
Ms. Coreno stated they are in receipt this date of correspondence from Code Enforcement. . They are proceeding this evening with
The the area variance request as noted on the application. . We can then discuss the status of the application after the presentation.
Ms. Coreno provided a project history as well as a summary of proposed changes. . This is the first appearance before the ZBA. This
project, land, corridor has gone through several iterations of review back to the 1980’s. s. A proposed PUD was initiated in January of
2021. . SEQRA – Coordinated review and negative declaration issued by City Council on December 21, 2021. . The ZBA was not
involved due to lack of permitting or approval. . The project has been reduced in scope since 2021. ZBA is permitted to act as Lead
Agent and adopt the findings of the City Council due to less intensive use of the project as was previously reviewed and given a
negative declaration. . A visual of the proposed site was provided as well as a rendering of the proposed project. . This presentation
and siting of the buildings on the front of the road. . This was provided to the DRC as part of the PUD process and was given a positive
Rrecommendations because it is consistent with their Marion Avenue gateway design regulations. . This is in conflict withconflicts with
the 40ft. setback in the TRB. . We had a conversation with the Code Enforcement officer who confirmed the conflict and what has
brought us here this evening. . Ms. Coreno spoke regarding the existing front yard setback which is 24ft. and the proposed new
setback is 8 ft.
The property is currently non-conforming. .
Ms. Coreno reviewed the 5-Part Balancing Test for an Area Variance, the longevity of a convenience store in this location, compatibility
with the neighborhood. . She noted this is a long and narrow site, b. Bound by Route 9 on one side and a very extensive National Grid
easement on the other side. . We have met with National Grid concerning an easement and the ability to place some of the site
elements into the easement – mostly pavement but no buildings or structures. . We have sought to obtain maximum participation
from one of our neighbors which is one of our one of our obligations. . We have attempted to design the site as conforming as
possible.
We have had a SEQRA Negative Declaration. . Ms. Coreno stated she is aware there is a question pending as it relates to the 100 ft.
buffer. . Ms. Coreno spoke regarding Section 1.7 D and the way it is setup is at the property ownersowner’s option. T they can move a
zoning line.
There is debate about this. . Our thinking is this is something afforded the property owner through the code not something to seek
relief from. . We understand the ZBA has the authority to ask for a determination and has the right to do so. . It was not in the
application since we did not believe we needed to request relief from. . A determination has been researched and asked for by Code
Enforcement Officer. . I saw this at 5:00 P.M. this evening, I have thoughts about this and would like to be given an opportunity to
respond formally.
The car wash and the 100 ft. isare really related to use. . It is a use measurement. . The car wash is compliant regarding setbacks or
variances. . She is curious to hear the Boards view on the front setback. . While still understanding that there will be a submission
from her outlining the merits of the 100ft. particularly the precedent in the City on this rule which is quite extensive and on the record.
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Aneisha Samuels, Senior Planner, stated she would like to state SEQRA Review was completed for the PUD and approved by the City
Council. . However, the City Council is no longer an involved agency for this project. . Therefore, their SEQRA Evaluation does not
necessarily stand anymore. . ZBA intends to defer Lead Agency Status to the Planning Board. . As such the ZBA will either adopt the
City Council’s Evaluation and Negative Declaration or they could potentially redo SEQRA. .
Ms. Coreno stated she understand that City Council is no longer an involved agency. . However, their SEQRA Negative Declaration is
part of this record. . The applicant’s request is to have that determination adopted because the project is of a lesser impact. . If the
ZBA
iIntends to defer Lead Agency Status to the Planning Board the applicant has no say in that decision. . This is a less intense project
Than than what was previously reviewed by the City Council for SEQRA.
Aneisha Samuels, Senior Planner, said she understand that the applicant would like to have on the record that the applicant is
requesting to have the previous SEQRA Determination used. However, since City Council is not an involved agency
their SEQRA does not necessarily stand.
Ms. Coreno questioned what does not necessarily stand?
Jackie White, Counsel stated their understanding is the same as what Aneisha stated. It is our understanding that the ZBA intends to
defer to the Planning Board. The Planning Board acting as Lead Agency will review the previous determination and assess what needs
to be done.
Patrick Cogan, Building Inspector, Zoning Officer clarified the areas of relief which are needed. That is something we need additional
information on. Not necessarily the 100 ft. move but also some questions on the canopy which should be treated as a principal
structure.
Ms. Coreno stated the canopy is pre-existing, nonconforming. We can supply history on that if needed.
Mr. Rubado stated the canopy is new with new dispensers in the same location.
Ms. Coreno stated it is being upgraded but it is not being moved from this location.
Patrick Cogan, Building Inspector/Zoning Officer questioned if the gas canopy was being moved to behind the building.
Ms. Coreno stated it was in the PUD.
Mr. Rubado stated the gas canopies are being moved further back to have more setback from the front. The intent was to keep the
canopy away from the residential area.
Patrick Cogan, Building Inspector/Zoning Officer questioned if there is rear setback relief required which the current canopy does not
have. It may be beneficial, but the Board should consider.
Ms. Coreno questioned Patrick Cogan, Building Inspector/Zoning Officer regarding lot consolidation. We are using all the available
acreage for both the setbacks, coverage and other measurements. If that needs to be clearer, we can provide that information.
Mr. Rubado stated it is their intent to consolidate three parcels.
Patrick Cogan, Building Inspector/Zoning Office questioned if the intent is to include the UR-2 parcel which is the subject of the 100 ft.
move would be consolidated as well.
Mr. Rubado stated yes.
Patrick Cogan, Building Inspector/Zoning Officer stated he submitted his determination and supporting materials to Aneisha as well as
placing them on the laser fiche for the Boards availability. The question raised by public comment was whether it was appropriate or
not for Stewart’s to take the 100 ft. move. Some reasons stated were because it was part of 1.7 and that begins where there is
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uncertainty as to the boundary location between zones, then it falls through with letters A,B,C,D. The suggestion there was because
there was no uncertainty as to where this boundary line is, that the 100 ft. move is not available to the applicant.
Patrick Cogan, Building Inspector/Zoning Officer continued, the first part of the determination delves into that aspect. He reviewed
every zoning ordinance since enacted in 1961. There is a history of this clause or some form of it in the ordinance since 1961.
Basically, as you review from 1961 – 2012 that clause was always under its own heading. It had no qualifying condition attached to it
that there needed to be any uncertainty as to where the boundary line was to be able to utilize the 100 ft. move. He did not feel that the
2012 reorganization of that portion of the Zoning Ordinance was indicative of the intent of that clause. Basically, I think it was done in
error placing in under 1.7. It should be a separate section and not be subject to the uncertainty clause. Since 2012 we have many
examples of where we have allowed the 100 ft. move of the requirements for the district, and we have never required the applicant to
prove that there was any sort of uncertainty as to where the boundary division line is. In fact, it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to say
that the only way you can move it 100ft. is to say you don’t know where the boundary line is and where do you measure it from. That is
an exhibit of why that should not be in that section and why he feels that this is an error. He does not feel that this question has any
impact on this application. We have allowed this and precedent to the contrary and court case law precedent to the contrary from our
own Zoning Ordianance.
The next question becomes whether this application meets all the criteria for the owner to be able to do the 100 ft. move at their option.
Where is the starting line? Where do we start? In 2012 when the entire ordinance was adopted, is it when the line was established on
the map separating the boundary into two zoning districts. For him, the intent is to provide the property owner the ability to move that
line if the line is drawn through the middle of their property. Every time the Zoning Ordinance or map is updated to say that this portion
of it starts over leads to a potentially problematic interpretation. Someone could knowingly purchase property in another district and
wait for an update in the ordinance noting ownership prior to the zoning change. It is important in this case to know when that line was
drawn and who owned the property at that time. As far back as 1990 when the moratorium around Loughberry Lake, and the zoning
changes, the line between the commercial and residential districts has been exactly where it is today. Through better mapping and
published parcel level details on the zoning maps it is very clear that in 1998 there is the dividing line between the parcel district at the
time was C3 and the residential district which was UR-2 remains in the exact same place. That portion of C3 was changed to TRBD
and then TRB but the line has remained where it is now. Stewarts acquired this property in 2003 and 2004. They acquired it from two
entities. It was divided lands not under common ownership.
Stewart’s Shops acquired that property after that line was firmly established. There is more information in the determination. He is
struggling with what the intent is versus what the literal language states. There is some grey area. It is my determination since this line
was clearly established and both properties were purchased with the dividing line in place, the 100 ft. move should not apply to this.
The Board has requested my determination based on public comment. It is fair for the applicant to be able to present why they should
be allowed to move 100 ft. and I should be allowed to consider that and modify my determination if necessary. There is also the option
for the applicant to seek an interpretation or appeal of that determination.
Libby Coreno, thanked Patrick Cogan, Building Inspector/Zoning Officer, for the time he invested in this. It is not an easy determination.
We will submit our research and interpretation and case law.
Gage Simpson, Chair, asked if there anything else zoning related to discuss further this evening.
Aneisha Samuels, Senior Planner, said we are awaiting on the final determinations for actual areas of relief. Until we confirm the actual
areas of relief, we should defer requesting the Advisory Opinion and deferral of SEQRA Lead Agency Status.
Gage Simpson, Chair, stated we will wait until further information is provided.
PUBLIC HEARING:
Gage Simpson, Chair stated the public hearing remains open.
Gage Simpson, Chair asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application.
John Yakuponia, Neighborhood Association, noted the complex history here. He appreciates the information provided by the Building
Inspector/Zoning Officer. It is clear that the parking for this retail space is over the boundary line. It is important to note
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this entire neighborhood is designated residential neighborhood in the Comprehensive Plan. This application does not comport with the
Comprehensive Plan.
Gage Simpson, Chair, stated the public hearing will remain open.
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MOTION TO ADJOURN:
There being no further business to discuss Gage Simpson,Keith Kaplan, Chair,man adjourned the meeting at 10:159:51 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Diane M. Buzanowski
Recording Secretary
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Meeting minutes approved June 27, 2022
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ZBA Members
City of Saratoga Springs Keith Kaplan (Chair)
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS Brad Gallagher (Vice Chair)
Cheryl Grey
City Hall • 474 Broadway
Matthew Gutch
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866
518.587.3550 Gage Simpson
Emily Bergmann
www.saratoga-springs.org
John S. Daley (Alternate)
Justin Farrington
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ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MEETING AGENDA
Monday, May 16, 2022, at 6:30 p.m.
Salute the Flag
Roll Call
1. Approval of Meeting Minutes
2. ZBA Applications Under Consideration
Procedural Business
Agenda
Project # Project Project Location Project Description
Order
New Business
Agenda
Project # Project Project Location Project Description
Order
Area variance to permit an addition to the existing single-family home and
modifications to the existing carriage house to facilitate a two-car household,
1 20220262 29 Madison Ave Area Variance 29 Madison Ave two home offices, and a gym within the Urban Residential -1 (UR-1) District.
Area variance to permit the expansion of porch and renovate the second
2 20220229 3 McAllister Area Variance 3 McAllister story within the Urban Residential-1 (UR-1) District
Area variance to permit the construction of a new single-family home with a
detached multi-unit carriage house within the Urban Residential-4 (UR-4)
3 20220217 17 Park Area Variance 17 Park Place District
Area variance to permit a rear addition to the existing residence in the Urban
4 20220218 52 Doten Area Variance 52 Doten Residential -2 ( UR-2) District
Continued Business
Agenda
Project # Project Project Location Project Description
Order
Area variance to permit the demolition of the existing garage, mobile station
and car wash and to construct convenience store, gasoline canopy, car wash
5 20220202 31-33 Marion Area Variance 31-33 Marion and rental space within the Tourist Related Business (TRB) District.
Area variance to permit the constructuion of a second-story addition to
6 20220195 132 Fifth Ave Area Variance 132 Fifth Ave existing residence within the Urban Residential-1 (UR-1) District.
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