Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · December 11, 2023
Minutes
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
MINUTES (DRAFT)
MONDAY, JANUARY 29, 2024
6:30 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALL TO ORDER: Gage Simpson – Chair, called the meeting to order at 6:30 P.M.
PRESENT: Gage Simpson – Chair, Brad Gallagher – Vice Chair, Brendan Dailey,
Jonah Cohen, Shafer Gaston. Otis Maxwell, Chris LaPointe
ABSENT: Otis Maxwell, Chris LaPointe
STAFF: Aneisha Samuels, Senior Planner, City of Saratoga Springs
ANNOUNCEMENT OF RECORDING OF PROCEEDING:
The proceedings of this meeting are being recorded for the benefit of the secretary. Because the
minutes are not verbatim record of the proceedings, the minutes are not a word-for-word
transcript of the recording.
Gage Simpson, Chair recognized Cherie Grey and her eight years of service. He congratulated
her and thanked her for all of her dedication to the city. Gage also thanked Alice Smith for her
two year cycle as an alternate on the board and dedication to the city.
ZBA APPLICATIONS UNDER CONSIDERATION:
PROCEDURAL BUSINESS:
NEW BUSINESS:
1. #20230974, 106 Elm St. Area variance to permit an accessory shed to remain within setback,
in the Urban Residential-2 (UR-2) District.
Variances sought for 106 Elm :
TYPE OF REQUIREMENT ZONE REQUIREMENT PROPOSED RELIEF REQUESTED
ACCESSORY TO SIDE 5 FT. 0 FT. 100%
Aven Aimone, 106 Elm St., owner said they moved in about 14 years ago and the shed was
already there. They would like to keep the shed in that same location. Jonah asked what
brought the applicant in today. Aven said he only knew about the size limit for the shed
because of a permit he was getting for a gazebo that was larger than the permitted 12’ x 12’ and
the shed was on the site plan.
Gage Simpson, Chair opened the floor for public comment at 6:33 p.m. There were no
comments. Public comment was closed at 6:33 p.m.
Jonah Cohen made a motion to approve the Area Variance at 106 Elm St., Saratoga Springs,
NY. The motion was seconded by Brendan Dailey. G. Simpson -Y, B. Gallagher-Y, B.
Dailey-Y, J. Cohen-Y, S. Gaston-Y. Vote 5-0 in favor. Motion carried.
2. #20230968, 65 Ash St. Demo & Construction. Area variance to permit the demolition and
reconstruction of a single-family residence with a detached two-story garage within the Urban
Residential -3 (UR-3) District.
Variances sought for 65 Ash St.:
TYPE OF REQUIREMENT ZONE REQUIREMENT PROPOSED RELIEF REQUESTED
MINIMUM LOT SIZE 6,600 SQ. FT. 4,500 SQ. FT. 2,100 SF (31.8%)
MINIMUM AVERAGE WIDTH 60 FT. 30 FT. 30 FT. (50.0%)
FRONT SETBACK 10 FT. 1 FT. 9 FT (90%)
INTERIOR SIDE SETBACK 5 FT. 4.0 FT. 1 FT. (20%)
ACCESSORY TO SIDE 5 FT 4.0 FT. 1 FT. (20%)
Tonya Yasenchak, Engineering America represented the applicant, the Metzgers. Tonya said
they purchased the property in September of 2023 and the house was in a major state of
disrepair. After further evaluation the owners decided it would be too much to repair the
property because it had major foundation issues. Tonya said the house was so close to the
property line it would have made it difficult to raise the house for a new foundation. The
applicant would like to demolish and rebuild the house. Tonya said after the workshop Aneisha
asked Tonya to put together a comparison table that shows the existing conditions and relief
being sought by the applicant. Tonya went over the chart with the board:
Demolishing house and have to go back to the foundational sizes of the lot – area and
width. It’s a pre-existing, non-conforming lot at 4,500 sq. ft. No additional land to be
acquired.
Front setback required is10 ft., the existing is .8 ft. The porch roof would be at 1 ft.
which is relief of 90% for the over-hang which is consistent with the adjacent houses in
the neighborhood.
Interior side setback (west) supposed to be 5 ft., currently .6 ft over the west property
line. The difference now is 5.6 ft. and they are asking for 4 ft. to the roof overhang, 5 ft.
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to the building so they are asking for 1 ft. They are asking for the 1 ft. instead of shifting
the building over because they need space for the driveway along the east side.
East setback – no relief requested. Required 7’, currently exists at 1 ft. and by detaching
the garage the 1 ft. goes to the roof of a carport or detached garage. Total side setbacks
need to be 12 ft., they’re asking for 8 ft. and are only required to have 7 ft.
Coverage – 40% maximum – they’ll be at 37%, no relief requested.
Impervious surface – no relief.
Asking for a variance for the driveway width of 8 ft.
Asking for relief for the garage width because of the narrowness of the lot and the two-
car garage. They are asking for 1 ft. that would be for the overhang. Tonya said they
can’t make the garage any smaller, it’s 20 ft. – 22’ to the overhangs. Tonya said there are
neighbors who are encroaching over the property line in this area of the backyard, but the
applicant is not asking for anything to be changed.
Tonya said she doesn’t think there will be any change in the character of the neighborhood for
what they’re asking for and will be making the situation much better. Tonya said the width of
the house is 16’ and they would like to keep it at that width, no smaller. She said there’s no
environmental issues. Bringing the house away from the property line will allow the drainage
to land on the property versus the way it is now – some going off property. Tonya showed a
sketch of the proposal and photos of the existing house and adjacent properties.
Brad Gallagher said the garage is shown as two-story in the back. Tonya said they haven’t
designed that yet and wasn’t sure what the applicant planned to do with it. Brad said he would
like some clarity on that. Tonya said there are two-story garages in the neighborhood with
variances.
Brendan Dailey asked Aneisha about the windows because the houses are so close. Tonya said
at 4’ they will need a fire rating on the soffit, the building itself will be at 5’ so the wall of the
building will not have to be fire rated. They will be allowed to have windows within that wall if
it’s 5’. Brendan asked if the large pine tree in the back would have to come down. Tonya said
because pine trees have a very shallow root system it may have to come down.
Jonah Cohen said there’s not much they can do about the lot area and width, so he appreciates
that they provided the chart that shows how they’re improving on the current conditions. Jonah
asked if there was a reason that the front setback couldn’t be pushed back further. Tonya said it
probably could be, but they were trying to make it even with the other properties. Aneisha said
it’s a modified front yard setback, meaning that she gets the average setback from both
neighboring properties. Both homes would need to be permitted homes and not illegal. Tonya
said she would like to continue down the path of the zoning variance. She said they can
measure where the other two houses are to show that what the applicant is asking for is
consistent with that average.
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Gage Simpson asked Tonya if she’s sure the permeability is good. She said it is, but one foot
of the driveway does fall under the roof overhang. Aneisha said the applicant is permitted to
have 70% impervious and they are at 65%.
Gage Simpson, Chair opened the floor for public comment at 6:56 p.m. The public comment
will remain open. Gage said the next meeting is February 12th and the board should have
something for the applicant then.
CONTINUED BUSINESS:
3. #20230578, 72 S Franklin Demo & Construction 72 S Franklin Area variance to permit the
demolition and construction of a new single-family modular home in the Urban Residential -
3(UR-3) District.
Edmond Checknicki
4. #20230955, 24 Jumel Place, Porch & Second Dwelling. Area variance to permit the removal
and reconstruction of an existing front porch and conversion of garage to second dwelling
within the Urban Residential -3 (UR-3) District.
5. #20230464, 174 York Second Story, Extend Footprint. Area variance to permit and
expansion to the existing building within the Urban Residential -2 (UR-2) District.
6. #20230808, 86 Ludlow Subdivision Area Variance. Area variance to permit a two-lot
subdivision in the Urban Residential-3 (UR-3) District.
7. #20230844, 10 Cottage Area Variance 10 Cottage Street Area variance to permit the
construction of a new single-family home to be used as a second dwelling within the Urban
Residential -3 (UR3) District
Variances sought for 60 Granite:
TYPE OF REQUIREMENT ZONE REQUIREMENT PROPOSED RELIEF REQUESTED
SETBACK-FRONT 10 FT 4.9 FT. 5.1 FT (51.0%)
INTERIOR SIDE TO NEW 5 FT. 3 FT. 2.0 FT (40%)
PORCH
ACCESSORY TO SIDE 5 FT. 2.3 FT. 2.7 FT (54%)
TYPE OF REQUIREMENT ZONE REQUIREMENT PROPOSED RELIEF REQUESTED
MINIMUM LOT SIZE 8,000 SQ. FT. 7,700 SQ. FT. 300 SQ. FT. (3.8%)
MINIMUM AVERAGE 80 FT. 50 FT. 30 FT. (37.5%)
WIDTH
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TYPE OF REQUIREMENT ZONE REQUIREMENT PROPOSED RELIEF REQUESTED
FRONT SETBACK 10 FT. 1.9 FT. 8.1 FT (81%)
INTERIOR SIDE SETBACK 5 FT. 2.7 FT. 2.3 FT. (46%)
TYPE OF REQUIREMENT ZONE REQUIREMENT PROPOSED RELIEF REQUESTED
CORNER SIDE 30 FT 8.8 FT 21.2 FT (70.7%)
TYPE OF REQUIREMENT ZONE REQUIREMENT PROPOSED RELIEF REQUESTED
REAR 25 FT. 21 FT. 4 FT. (16%)
INTERIOR SIDE PORCH 5 FT. 2.5 FT. 2.5 FT. (50%)
INTERIOR SIDE BUILDING 5 FT. 4.5 FT. .5 FT (10%)
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7. #20230844, 10 Cottage Area Variance 10 Cottage Street Area variance to permit the
construction of a new single-family home to be used as a second dwelling within the Urban
Residential -3 (UR3) District
Bob Flansburg, Dreamscapes Unlimited represented his client, Steve O’Shea. Bob displayed
a sketch of the site plan. The building on the front of the property on Cottage St. is currently a
two-family and will become a one-family residence with an in-law apartment. There’s a door
on the side coming from the driveway that will become a window. The requirement for an in-
law apartment is that can only be one entrance, which in this case will be off the front of the
building. There will be a covered porch with one front door. The existing 2-story building is
1,640 sq. ft. of living space. The proposed one-story single-family dwelling to the rear has
1,578 sq. ft. of living space, plus a two-car attached garage for an approximate total of 2,200 sq.
ft. Bob said they are also asking for some relief to the rear yard – 16’. The requirement is 25 ft.
The neighbors to the north have a covered balcony that is forward of the shaded box on the
drawing. They are requesting that the applicant pull the house back even more than 16 ft. to
preserve their southern light between the structures. Bob showed photos of the property as it
exists today. Looking from the backyard, Bob pointed out 10 Cottage in the foreground. He
said the home that they’re proposing is where the outdoor chairs and car are in the photo, next
to the detached brown garage to the right. Bob said to the south there’s another detached
garage. He pointed out that the location of the new single-family would have very little impact
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on either property. Bob showed a photo of the neighbor’s balcony looking from a northeast
perspective. Bob said the neighbor’s house at 12 Cottage is very far back on their parcel. The
property on the other street behind is very close to the rear of 12 Cottage. Aneisha pulled
Cottage St. up on Google Maps. Bob pointed out that 14 Cottage St. is a 50’ wide lot as is 12
Cottage – immediately to the left of 10 Cottage. To the rear of 14 Cottage is a second dwelling
(yellow house) that looks larger than the front house at 14. Bob said he pointed this out because
they are asking for a single-family house at the back of 10 Cottage which will also be slightly
larger than the house in the front. Bob said a precedent for what they are requesting was set
with the rear house at 14 Cottage and the main house at 12 Cottage with both houses being set
very far back – much closer than 16 feet. Bob said he looked at several properties in the area
and there’s a lot of two-family dwellings and finished garages. Bob also pointed out a unique
building in the neighborhood, across the street from 10 Cottage, where the apartment house was
converted into condominiums. His point is that it’s a unique neighborhood and he doesn’t think
they are affecting the density. Bob summarized by saying the O’Shea’s are looking to have the
single-family home be their retirement home.
Brendan Dailey thanked the applicant for providing more clarity. He asked if it would be
necessary to remove any trees in the back. Bob said some trees were removed in the vicinity of
the proposed house.
Jonah Cohen asked if they were locating the house at 16’ rather than 25’ in consideration of
the neighbors at 12 Cottage. Bob said that was the reason, to preserve some of the sunlight for
their balcony.
Shafer Gaston said he doesn’t have any concern about the setback. He said the board would
need to see a calculation of the 60% versus what is being asked with the built plans because that
would entail another variance that would have to be approved. Shafer said they would also
want an estimation of the relative square footage of the property at 14 Cottage versus 10
Cottage. Shafer said he doesn’t want to approve of something that is significantly more than
what is there.
Gage Simpson asked if there was an option to tear down the current house and build something
more central to the property. Bob said the applicant would like to keep that as is. He said if
this house goes forward the owner will improve the sewer with one tie-in at the street instead of
two. Gage questioned how the driveway would be used. Bob said they can provide parking
within the current driveway.
Gage Simpson, Chair opened the floor to public comment at 8:27 p.m. There were no
comments. The Public Hearing will remain open. The applicant will be put on the next ZBA
Agenda for January 29, 2024.
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APPROVA L OF MEETING MINUTES:
Brendan Dailey made a motion to accept the October 23, 2023, meeting minutes. The motion was seconded by
Shafer Gaston. Motion carried. Vote: 5-0.
Brendan Dailey made a motion to accept November 6, 2023, meeting minutes. The motion was seconded by
Shafer Gaston. Motion carried. Vote: 5-0.
Brendan Dailey made a motion to accept November 20, 2023, meeting minutes. The motion was seconded by
Shafer Gaston. Motion carried. Vote: 5-0.
MOTION TO ADJOURN:
A motion to adjourn was made by Gage Simpson and seconded by Brendan Dailey. There being no further
business to discuss, the meeting was adjourned at 8:29 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Donna Gizzi, Recording Secretary
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Agenda
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Primary
City of Saratoga Springs Gage Simpson (Chair)
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS Brad Gallagher (Vice Chair)
Cheryl Grey
City Hall • 474 Broadway
Brendan Dailey
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Shafer Gaston
Jonah Cohen
518.587.3550
Alice Smith (Alternate)
www.saratoga-springs.org John S. Daley (Alternate)
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ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS AGENDA
Monday, December 11, 2023, at 6:30 p.m.
Procedural Business
Agenda
Project # Project Project Location Project Description Ordinance Type
Order
New Business
Agenda Ordina
Project # Project Project Location Project Description
Order Type
60 Granite Porch Area variance to permit the removal and reconstruction of an existing UDO
1
20230956 Renovation 60 Granite front porch within the Urban Residential -3 (UR-3) District
Area variance to permit the removal and reconstruction of an existing UDO
24 Jumel Porch & Second
2 24 Jumel front porch and conversion of garage to second dwelling within the
Dwelling
20230955 Place Urban Residential -3 (UR-3) District
Area variance to permit the replacement of a tent with a permanent UDO
251 East Ave Permanent
3 canopy within the Institutional Horse track related business (INST-HTR)
Canopy Area Variance
20230948 251 East Ave District
17 Alger St. Addition Area Area variance to permit an addition to a single family home in the UDO
4
20230848 Variance 17 Alger St. Urban Reisdential-3 (UR-3) District
Continued Business
Agenda Ordinance
Project # Project Project Location Project Description
Order Type
Area variance to permit the expansion of the existing single-family UDO
5 332 Caroline Addition
20230820 332 Caroline home within the Urba Residential -2 (UR-2) District.
Area variance to permit the rebranding of an existing movie theatre in UDO
6 19 Railroad Movie Signage
20230575 19 Railroad the Urban Core UC/T-6 District
42 Schuyler Front Porch & 42 Schuyler Area variance to permit the expansion of a single family residence UDO
7
20230921 Second Story Drive within the Urban Residential-1 (UR-1) District
Area variance to permit the construction of a new single-family home UDO
8 10 Cottage Area Variance 10 Cottage to be used as a second dwelling within the Urban Residential -3 (UR-
20230844 Street 3) District
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