Historic Resource Commission
Regular MeetingSchenectady, NY · February 16, 2016
Minutes
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Schenectady Historic District Commission
Meeting Minutes
February 16, 2016
I. CALL TO ORDER
Commissioner Britt called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM.
Commissioner Britt noted that due to the recent turnover of Commissioners the
Commission is currently without a Chair or Vice Chair. The Commissioners decided
that for the next three meetings the members with the most seniority (Commissioners
Britt, Craven, and Wiles) will each take a turn as temporary Chair to allow the new
Commissioners to get to know each other and the workings of the Commission before
voting on a new Chair and Vice Chair.
II. ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Carrie Britt; Jackie Craven; Ben Wiles; Mark Meigher; Patricia Yager
EXCUSED: David Lowry; Dean Bennett
STAFF: Rima Shamieh, Assistant Planner; Ryan Bailey, Assistant Corporation
Counsel; Jennifer Mills, Secretary
III. CONFLICT OF INTEREST
None.
IV. ADOPTION OF MEETING MINUTES
Motion by Commissioner Craven, seconded by Commissioner Wiles, to adopt the
January 19, 2016 Meeting Minutes as submitted.
Motion carried unanimously.
V. OTHER BUSINESS
Assistant Planner Shamieh informed the Commissioners that the Department of
Development is currently working on a grant application for a grant to fund the
development of design guidelines for the elevation of structures located in the flood
plain in the Stockade. She noted that as part of the application the Historic District
Commission is asked to designate a liaison who will serve as a point person for any
information requested or received from the Commission. Ms. Shamieh explained that
typically the liaison is the Chair, but since this position is currently vacant someone
else must be designated. Commissioner Wiles suggested that the new Commissioners
should be given an opportunity to express their opinion. The other Commissioners
concurred. Ms. Shamieh noted that the application requires that the liaison be named
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by February 29, 2016, but that she would inform the new Commissioners of the
situation and discuss the nominees via email with all of the Commissioners.
Ms. Shamieh also noted that a volunteer tour guide to lead tours of City Hall is
currently being sought. There were no volunteers from the Commissioners at this time.
Counsel Bailey suggested that the Commission send a letter to the Mayor and/or the
City Council explaining that the Commissioners feel that there are issues with their
governing laws that need to be reviewed and revised. He explained that he and
Assistant Planner Shamieh could formulate a draft letter for the Commissioners to
review at the March meeting. Commissioner Britt asked if it would be necessary to
choose someone to sign the letter, since the Chair is currently vacant. Counsel Bailey
stated that who would sign the letter could be determined at the next meeting.
Commissioner Wiles asked if the letter would list specific areas of concern. Staff
replied that it would briefly outline or list the most major problems that have been
identified. Commissioner Wiles stated that he would specifically like the letter to
mention the clarification of the Commission’s jurisdiction over plantings and trees.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. Consideration for approval submitted by James Plowman, on behalf of Robin
White, to landscape. The premise is located at 1 Cucumber Alley.
Jim Plowman, contractor for Mr. White, and Joe Fava, property manager, appeared
before the Commission. Mr. Plowman and Mr. Fava last appeared before the
Commission at the January meeting for consideration of this proposal. At that time
the Commissioners agreed that the majority of the landscaping was acceptable, but
prior to voting on the application they requested a photograph of the brickwork
from the perspective of the street approach, showing the full length of the driveway
including both the brick and the asphalt portions. The applicants submitted
photographs prior to this month’s meeting.
Prior to the discussion of the driveway photo, Commissioner Yager asked Mr.
Plowman if the property owner, Mr. White, had expressed to him what he would
like the exterior of the building to look like if he was not concerned with getting
approval from the Commission. Mr. Plowman replied that Mr. White would like to
make the property as attractive as possible, as this will be his residence when he is
in Schenectady. Commissioner Yager stated that her interest is that the building is
a mid-century modern building with a front façade that does not reflect this time
period, while the three other sides of the building do. She explained that because of
the extensive record of responsible preservation work that Mr. White has done in
the Stockade, it is her opinion that should he request a more mid-century modern
treatment of the façade the Commission might consider it. Commissioner Craven
noted that as a mid-century modern building the structure is now classified as
historic, as it is more than fifty years old.
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Commissioner Wiles asked for clarification of the scale of the photograph
submitted. Mr. Plowman replied that the brick portion is twenty-five feet long and
the asphalt portion extends an additional seventy feet to the street. Commissioner
Wiles asked the applicants if the garage doors will be replaced. Mr. Plowman
stated that they planned on replacing them in kind. Commissioner Yager asked
what Mr. White would like to use for replacement. Mr. Plowman replied that he
would prefer using flush, flat doors, which would better accommodate the flood
vents that are required to be installed. Commissioner Yager stated that she had
heard on her site visit that glass garage doors had been discussed. Mr. Plowman
stated that Mr. White had mentioned them but that Mr. Plowman quickly talked
him out of using them, due to their difficulty to maintain in this climate. Mr.
Plowman noted that they would also like to remove all of the shutters from the
building. The Commissioners agreed that removing the shutters would be
acceptable. Commissioner Craven asked the Commissioners if they had any other
outstanding issues with the landscaping. Commissioner Wiles stated that he did not
feel that the brick in the driveway should extend any further. Mr. Plowman stated
that it would not.
Motion by Commissioner Wiles, seconded by Commissioner Yager, to approve the
application as submitted with the following conditions:
1. Once commenced, the project will be completed within one year.
2. The brick paver portion of the driveway will be limited to where it has
currently been installed.
3. The applicant will obtain staff approval for the final design of the garage
doors prior to installation.
Motion carried unanimously.
Findings:
1. This is a Type II SEQRA.
2. The building is an old building in the Stockade district that has a distinctly
different architectural pedigree from the majority of the buildings in the
district, as it dates from the 1950s.
3. Should the owner decide to change the façade of the building more
dramatically the Commission would likely consider such a proposal
favorable because a more dramatic change could be made without
compromising the historic integrity of the building.
B. Consideration for approval submitted by James Plowman, on behalf of Robin
White, to rebuild the deck and replace windows. The premise is located at 1
Cucumber Alley.
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Jim Plowman, contractor for the project, and Joe Fava, property manager for Mr.
White, appeared before the Commission. Mr. Plowman and Mr. Fava appeared
before the Commission at the January 19, 2016 meeting. Prior to acting on the
proposal, the Commissioners had requested at the January meeting that the
applicants return with specific detailed cut sheets of the doors and windows to be
used on the building. Commissioner Britt asked Mr. Plowman if he would review
the plans for the deck, windows, and doors. Mr. Plowman explained where the
new deck will be constructed and showed where the new windows and doors will
be installed on the building. Commissioner Britt asked if the two new sets of three
doors would be divided light or single pane. Mr. Plowman replied that they would
be single pane. Commissioner Britt stated that she feels that the changes to the
building will be positive and in keeping with the style of the structure. The
Commissioners agreed.
Motion by Commissioner Britt, seconded by Commissioner Wiles, to approve the
application as submitted with the following conditions:
1. Once commenced, the project will be completed within one year.
2. The new doors will be single light tempered glass and not the divided
light doors that were shown on the submitted cut sheet.
Motion carried unanimously.
Findings:
1. This is a Type II SEQRA.
2. All new windows to be installed will be wood windows.
VII. NEW BUSINESS: Applications
A. Consideration for approval submitted by OEM, LLC to paint the buildings.
The premises are located at 410-412 Union Street.
Ryan Lucey and John Daley appeared before the Commission. They explained that
they are rehabbing these buildings and are currently taking part in a lead abatement
program which will require complete repainting of the exteriors of the buildings.
They noted that they do not plan to do any further work on the exterior of the
buildings at this time, and Commissioner Britt explained that if in the future they
do decide to make other exterior changes they will have to seek approval from the
Commission. The Commissioners briefly reviewed the proposed colors for the
buildings and they agreed that the colors are historically appropriate. Mr. Lucey
explained that the front door on 410 Union Street will most likely need to be
replaced. The Commissioners reviewed the photo of a new door that was
submitted with the application and concluded that the style is not appropriate for
the building. The applicants stated that this was a door that they already had and
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thus had considered using it, but that they would be willing to simply replace the
existing door in kind. Commissioner Britt asked that the old door be salvaged if
possible. The applicants agreed.
Motion by Commissioner Yager, seconded by Commissioner Craven, to approve
the application as submitted with the following condition:
1. Once commenced, the project will be completed in one year.
Motion carried unanimously.
Findings:
1. This is a Type II SEQRA.
2. The applicants and Commissioners discussed the replacement of the door
on 410 Union Street which was not a part of this application and was not
approved or disapproved. As part of the discussion the Commissioners
reviewed a photo of a door that was submitted with the application.
While the Commissioners agreed that the door was an attractive door,
they do not feel that it is historically appropriate for this property. If the
applicants decide to replace the current front door in kind they are not
required to return to the Commission for further consideration. Should
they decide to pursue an alternate design they are required to obtain
approval from the Historic District Commission.
B. Consideration for approval submitted by Michael and Mary Ellen Brockbank
to replace the roof. The premise is located at 1494 Wendell Avenue.
Mary Ellen Brockbank appeared before the Commission. Mrs. Brockbank
explained that the law office addition portion of the structure still has its original
slate roof, which is in severe disrepair. She and her husband propose to replace it
with architectural grade shingles, photos of which were submitted with their
application. Commissioner Britt noted that according to the file for the property the
original slate roof on the house portion of the structure was replaced in 2008. Mrs.
Brockbank confirmed this. Ms. Shamieh noted that the office addition was
constructed in the 1950s. Commissioner Craven asked the applicant if there are
now asphalt shingles on the entire main house. Mrs. Brockbank confirmed that in
2008 they re-roofed the entire residence portion of the structure with historic
shingles, which were approved by the Commission.
Commissioner Wiles noted that at the beginning of his tenure on the Commission
the practice was to require architectural grade shingles within the historic districts,
but that in recent years the practice has been to require three-tab shingles. He
stated that in his opinion the most important aspect of this project is that the two
roofs match. Commissioner Wiles explained that during the time period when the
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addition was constructed it was no longer the general practice to use slate roofs,
thus it must have been the intention of the architect to match the office and the
main house. Thus he feels that in order to support the original intention of the
design, the two roofs should be of matching materials. Commissioner Craven
agreed that she would prefer three-tab shingles on the addition but most
importantly feels that the roofs should match. Commissioner Britt noted that she is
very conflicted because ultimately she would like the slate to remain, but she also
believes that the roofs should be the same material so as to support the original
intent. She also noted that the slate is most likely only about halfway through its
life span and perhaps could be repaired. Commissioner Craven asked Mrs.
Brockbank if she has had a qualified slate contractor evaluate whether or not the
roof can be repaired. Mrs. Brockbank responded that the roof is leaking very badly
and many slates are falling off. She stated that when anyone goes on the roof the
slates are cracking and falling apart. Commissioner Yager asked her if the slates
are flaking. Mrs. Brockbank stated that they are coming apart in layers.
Commissioner Britt commented that it is not uncommon for slate roofs to lose
slates every year and require yearly maintenance by a qualified contractor. She
explained that she feels that slate roofs are undervalued, and that when properly
maintained they can certainly survive their suggested one-hundred-year life span.
Commissioner Britt noted that Schenectady was historically a slate roof city, and as
the original slate roofs are lost they will never be replaced. She stated that she also
feels, however, that the two roofs should match, as was the original intent.
Commissioner Wiles noted that if the Commission were to require that the slate
roof be repaired this could potentially lead to fifty more years of inconsistency
between the roofs. Commissioner Yager noted that she believes that the original
intent was for the roofs to match, and thus she would have no trouble supporting a
new roof on the addition, as long as it will match the residence roof in style and
color. Commissioner Wiles noted that this situation is an inherited issue for the
Commission since a previous decision had allowed the slate roof on the residence
to be replaced. Commissioner Britt asked the applicant if the shingles on the
residence match those proposed. Mrs. Brockbank stated that they are a different
brand of shingle because that is what the contractor prefers to work with. Ms.
Shamieh stated that is in not determinable from the photos what type of roof is on
the house – three-tab or architectural shingles. Ms. Shamieh looked up the shingle
type noted in the file to have been used on the house. The Commissioners
determined from the internet photo of the shingles that they believe them to be
three-tab style. Commissioner Britt stated that she feels that it must be clear in the
Commission’s decision that the intent is for the two roofs to match in style and
color. The Commissioners concurred.
Commissioner Yager asked Mrs. Brockbank what color the fascia boards are on the
office. Mrs. Brockbank responded that she is not certain. Commissioner Yager
noted that from the photos it appears that they are dark brown, and a white drip
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edge is proposed. She stated that she would prefer the use of a dark brown drip
edge in order for it to better blend with the fascia. The Commissioners concurred.
Motion by Commissioner Wiles, seconded by Commissioner Meigher, to approve
the application as submitted with the following conditions:
1. Once commenced, the project will be completed in one year.
2. The application specifies a white drip edge will be used. The applicant
will instead install a dark brown drip edge which will match the fascia of
the building as closely as possible.
3. An architectural type shingle is proposed in the application. Because it
was impossible to determine at the meeting exactly what type of shingle
has been used on the residence portion of the building, the Commission
requires that the shingles used on the office addition match the shingles on
the house in color, style, and configuration. Thus, if architectural shingles
were used on the residence, they are approved for use on the office, in a
matching color. However, if it is determined that the shingles used on the
house are the three-tab style, those are required for use on the office, in a
color matching as closely to the house as possible. The result should be
that the two portions of the structure have roofs that blend as seamlessly
as possible, as was the original intent.
Motion carried unanimously.
Findings:
1. This is a Type II SEQRA.
2. The roof to be replaced is a slate roof that is approximately sixty years old
and most likely could be sufficiently repaired.
3. The main house roof was replaced with asphalt shingles in 2008. The
original intent of the architect was for the two roofs to match, as
determined by the use of slate for the addition during a time period when
the use of this material was not the general practice. Therefore the
Commission concluded that this intent should be supported by approving
a matching roof at this time.
4. The Commission supports the use of architectural grade shingles if they
match what is used on the main house. If it is determined that three-tab
shingles were used on the house, then this same type of shingle must be
used on the office. It is the intent of the Commission that the color, style,
and configuration of the shingles should match and blend as seamlessly as
possible.
C. Consideration for approval submitted by Arthur Edelstein to replace the roof.
The premise is located at 1060 University Place.
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Arthur Edelstein and Eric Montgomery appeared before the Commission. Mr.
Montgomery is the roofing contractor who will be doing the work. Mr. Edelstein
explained that he replaced the other half of the roof thirty years ago when he
purchased the property, and that he would now like to replace this half of the roof.
He noted that he plans to replace the half of the roof that was replaced thirty years
ago within the next few years, so that the entire roof will match.
Commissioner Britt asked Mr. Edelstein of the proposed shingles are as close in
color to the other half of the roof as possible. Mr. Edelstein responded that they
are. Commissioner Britt asked the Commissioners if they had any opinion on the
proposed change from three-tab to architectural shingles and what they think of the
proposed color. Commissioner Craven noted that while the original roof was most
likely slate, with straight rows, as are three-tab shingles, the architectural shingles
are staggered and more irregular in appearance, and thus do have a different
appearance than the original slate did. However, she stated that in this case the roof
is so high that it is barely visible from the street, and she would support the use of
the proposed shingle for this reason. Mr. Montgomery stated that the applicant had
chosen the architectural shingles because they are more durable and have a longer
life span. He stated that the three-tab shingles currently available on the market are
very thin and not very long-lived. Commissioner Wiles stated that he would
support the use of architectural shingles in this case, due to the height and pitch of
the roof. He noted that the other half of the roof, which the applicant stated will be
replaced within a few years, is expected to be replaced with the same shingles. The
Commissioners concurred. Mr. Edelstein stated that it is his plan to replace the
second half of the roof with the same shingles as soon as it is financially feasible.
Motion by Commissioner Wiles, seconded by Commissioner Craven, to approve
the application as submitted with the following conditions:
1. Once commenced, the project will be completed in one year.
2. The work on the roof is approved in two phases. Phase one will be the
replacement of the south half of the roof, as explained in the application.
Phase two will be the replacement of the remainder of the roof on the
north side, which will be replaced with the same color and style shingles
as used in phase one.
Motion carried unanimously.
Findings:
1. This is a Type II SEQRA.
2. The project was approved in phases so that the applicant has the option to
replace the second half of the roof without having to return for further
consideration by the Commission.
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3. The owner is not required to pursue phase two of the application. Should
he decide to only complete phase one, and phase two is not commenced
within one year of this decision, he may return to the Commission at
sometime in the future for consideration of the second half of the roof.
4. The north side of the roof was replaced thirty years ago, and it is in fair
condition. The south side of the roof is in a more severe state of disrepair,
and requires more immediate attention.
D. Consideration for approval submitted by Judy and Greg Miller to demolish
the side porch, replace kitchen door with a window, alter the size of windows
on the side of the house, demolish the garage, erect a fence, replace windows
and storm windows, paint and repair the front porches and front door, and
other alterations. The premise is located at 1037-1039 Gillespie Street.
Judy Miller and Chaya Tal appeared before the Commission. Mrs. Miller and Ms.
Tal appeared before the Commission at the January 19, 2016 meeting for an
informal discussion regarding the property. Due to the large scope of the
application, Commissioner Britt suggested that the Commissioners review and
discuss it in sections following how it is divided by the owners in the application.
The Commissioners agreed. Commissioner Yager noted that in her research she
found that the house was built around 1900, and not in 1920 as was stated in the
application. Commissioner Craven agreed that it appeared to be a style that was
prevalent around the turn of the century. The applicant stated that according to the
information they had been given about the house it dated from 1920, but agreed
that this information could be slightly off.
Commissioner Britt then opened the discussion with Section A of the application,
dealing with the side porch and kitchen door. Commissioner Britt noted that from
the evidence provided it could be concluded that the side porch was not original to
the house. The Commissioners concurred. Commissioner Craven asked if the
applicants know if the side door was original or added later. Mrs. Miller stated that
she did not know. Commissioner Yager asked Mrs. Miller if the house was
originally a two-family home or had been converted from a single family residence.
Mrs. Miller stated that she did not know, but that there was a single front entrance
with a nice staircase in the entryway. Commissioner Craven commented that this
style was very common for a two-family home of this time period in this area of the
city, so she would be inclined to conclude that it had always been a two-family
residence. Commissioner Britt commented that because there is another rear
entrance to the first floor she would conclude that the side door was a later
addition. Commissioner Craven asked Mrs. Miller how she planned on repairing
the vinyl siding after removing the porch and door. Mrs. Miller stated that they
planned to use vinyl siding from the rear of the building.
The Commissioners discussed the window with which the applicants proposed to
replace the door. The consensus was that the window was too small and did not
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appear to be the size that would have originally been used, as the other windows
surrounding it are larger. Mrs. Miller stated that they had chosen the smaller
window because it fit better with the interior kitchen floor plan. Commissioner
Britt suggested that perhaps they could leave the door and simply nail it shut.
Commissioner Craven stated that she believed that nailing the door shut might not
be allowed under city code. Commissioner Yager noted that she believes that the
window replacing the door should be larger. Commissioner Craven concurred and
stated that the proposed smaller window is not consistent with the original style of
the house. Commissioner Britt agreed and stated that the consensus of the
Commission seemed to be that they would approve the installation of a window of
the same size as the adjacent windows. Ms. Shamieh noted that the larger window
would require extending the opening higher than the door opening. The
Commissioners concurred that they would be okay with extending the opening
further up. Commissioner Britt noted that perhaps the original framing for the
window might still be in evidence once the siding is removed in that area. Ms.
Shamieh noted that according to the design guidelines the goal of the Commission
should be to maintain the original intended rhythm of the fenestration, which would
require the larger window. Commissioner Britt stated that it is the opinion of the
Commissioners that the porch may be demolished and the door replaced with a two
pane over two pane wood window of the same size as the other windows
surrounding it. The Commissioners concurred.
Commissioner Britt then advanced the discussion to Section B of the application,
dealing with the garage. Commissioner Britt asked if any of the Commissioners
had gone into the garage or inspected it closely. Commissioner Craven stated that
she had observed the exterior and poked her head inside. She stated that she
believes the garage to date probably from the 1950s, and that while she is not an
engineer it appeared to her that the garage could most likely be saved.
Commissioner Craven stated that her concerns regarding the removal of the garage
led her to two questions. First, how would the space be physically filled when
looking into the property from Gillespie Street, and second, how would the
applicants replace the significant noise and privacy buffer that the garage provides.
Commissioner Craven also noted that Union College students have repeatedly
made an opening in the fence at the rear of the property, even using tools, in order
to facilitate their use of the property as a shortcut to access the carriage house on
the property behind it, where many student parties are held. Mrs. Miller stated that
perhaps she could install a chain link fence behind a stockade fence so that it would
be more difficult to vandalize. The Commissioners agreed that this could be an
option.
Commissioner Britt asked for the Commissioners' opinions regarding the
demolition of the garage. Commissioner Yager stated that it appeared to be in a
state of severe disrepair and that she would not be averse to allowing it to be
demolished. Commissioner Meigher agreed. Commissioner Wiles stated that he
would not agree with demolishing the garage, and that he believes that repairing it
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would be less costly and complicated than the applicants believe. He noted that the
neighborhood has many garages of different styles from different eras and that he
believes that they should be preserved if at all possible. He stated that without the
garage the rear of the property would most likely end up as a large parking area
which was clearly not the original intent.
Commissioner Britt next moved on to Section C of the application – Front Door
and Porch. She noted that much of the proposed work would be replacing or
painting in kind, with the exception of the stair railings and the approval of the
brown paint color. Commissioner Britt noted that it would be her recommendation
to replace the newel post with a square post, but that the Commission could not
require it. The Commissioners concurred that a square post would be more in
keeping with the original intent. Commissioner Meigher asked Mrs. Miller if the
entire porch would be painted the brown color submitted. Mrs. Miller stated that
this was their intent. The Commissioners agreed that this would be acceptable.
The Commissioners next discussed Section D, concerning the windows.
Commissioner Britt noted that the metal capping proposed has already been used
elsewhere on the house, and that she would agree to the use of new brown metal
storm windows. The Commissioners concurred. The Commissioners discussed the
replacement of windows “a” and “c” and the kitchen door with three windows of
the same size as window “ 2” (as designated on the submitted photo). The
Commissioners concluded that they would be averse to decreasing the size of the
three windows, because as previously discussed this would negatively impact the
original intended rhythm of the fenestration. Commissioner Britt noted that
Section E of the application, dealing with the back of the house, is not under the
purview of the Commission as it is not visible from the public right of way.
The discussion then returned to the demolition of the garage. Commissioner Britt
stated that she agreed with Commissioner Wiles that the garage should be
preserved if at all possible. Commissioner Meigher stated that he did not visit the
property but that he feels that the garage does not significantly add to the aesthetic
value of the site. Commissioner Craven stated that she believes that the garage is
salvageable. She noted that it was most likely built to replace the original carriage
house on the property and that without it there would be a significant hole at the
end of the driveway. Commissioner Britt noted that repairing the garage would
most likely be of the same cost or less than demolishing it. Mrs. Miller stated that
she believes that the garage is in a severe state of disrepair and is structurally
unsound. Commissioner Wiles noted that unfortunately Mrs. Miller is the new
owner of the property and the garage was previously allowed to fall into disrepair,
but that letting the structure deteriorate to this degree does not give an automatic
license for it be demolished. As a courtesy Ms. Shamieh reviewed the relevant
section of the City Code Section 264-76.C.2 (e) which states, “ No structure may be
demolished unless the Commission finds that preservation of the structure is not
warranted under the general standards set forth in this section. Demolition may be
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permitted only after the developer of the site has submitted and obtained approval
for such plans for new development, including Commission approval for new
construction, including an acceptable timetable and guaranties which may include
performance bonds for demolition and completion of the project. In no case shall
the time between demolition and commencement of new construction exceed six
months.”
Commissioner Britt stated that it is her opinion that the garage should be removed
from the application and considered separately, after the applicants have an
opportunity to investigate the cost and viability of repairing the garage. The
Commissioners concurred. In response to Mrs. Miller’s suggestion that she could
construct a gazebo or similar structure in place of the demolished garage,
Commissioner Craven noted that while a gazebo might be lovely it would not be in
keeping with the original working class character of the property or the
neighborhood. Commissioner Britt concluded the discussion by thanking the
applicants for all the work that they are doing to rehabilitate the property and for
working with the Commission to ensure that the work is done according to historic
standards.
Motion by Commissioner Britt, seconded by Commissioner Craven, to approve the
application as submitted with the following conditions and amendments:
1. Once commenced, the project will be completed in one year.
2. Regarding Section A of the application – the kitchen door (b) will be
removed and replaced with a two over two pane window to match
window (a) in the photo submitted in materials, dimensions and situation.
3. The garage demolition is removed from the application and will be
considered at a later time when the applicant will submit a more detailed
plan for the garage, as required by City Code 264-76.C.2 (e).
4. Regarding Section C of the application – the paint color is approved as
submitted, as are all other repairs that are not in kind.
5. Regarding Section D of the application – Item 1 is approved as submitted.
Item 2a. regarding the kitchen window is not approved. Item 2b.
replacement window will match window (a) indicated in the photo
submitted in the application. Item 2c. to shorten the west 2nd floor
window is not approved.
6. Section E dealing with the rear of the house is not within the purview of
the Commission and therefore was not considered.
Motion carried unanimously.
Findings:
1. This is a Type II SEQRA.
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2. The Commission recommends that the applicants consider replacing the
newel post on the front porch with a square 4” by 4” newel post with an
appropriate cap.
3. The garage will be considered at a future meeting. The Commissioners
concluded that they need further information regarding the viability and
cost of repairing the structure versus demolishing it, as well as plans for
what would be constructed in its place should it have to be razed, per City
Code 264-76.C.2 (e).
4. The current condition of the property is not good. The applicants are
undertaking a significant amount of work and expense to rehabilitate to
property according to historic standards.
IX. MISCELLANEOUS
The Commissioners agreed that Commissioner Wiles will serve as acting Chair for the
March meeting. If for some unforeseen reason he is unable to attend the meeting,
Commissioner Britt will serve as acting Vice Chair and lead the meeting.
X. ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Craven, seconded by Commissioner Meigher, to adjourn the
meeting.
Motion carried unanimously.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:40 pm.
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Agenda
Schenectady Historic District Commission
To: Historic District Commission
From: Rima Shamieh, Assistant Planner
Subject: Regular Meeting, Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 7:00 PM - City Hall - Room 209
PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS MONTH'S MEETING WILL BE HELD ON TUESDAY, NOT
MONDAY, DUE TO THE FEDERAL HOLIDAY
I. Other Business
II. Applications
Old Applications
A. Consideration for approval submitted by James Plowman, on behalf of Robin White, to
landscape. The premise is located at 1 Cucumber Alley.
B. Consideration of approval submitted by James Plowman, on behalf of Robin White, to rebuild
the deck and replace windows. The premise is located at 1 Cucumber Alley.
New Applications
A. Consideration for approval submitted by OEM, LLC to paint the buildings. The premises are
located at 410-412 Union St.
B. Consideration for approval submitted by Michael and Mary Ellen Brockbank to replace the
roof. The premise is located at 1494 Wendell Ave.
C. Consideration for approval submitted by Arthur Edelstein to replace the roof. The premise is
located at 1060 University Place.
D. Consideration for approval submitted by Judy and Greg Miller to demolish the side porch,
replace kitchen door with a window, alter the size of windows on the side of the house,
demolish the garage, erect a fence, replace windows and storm windows, paint and repair the
front porches and front door, and other alterations. The premise is located at 1037-1039
Gillespie St.
III. Adjourn
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