Historic Resource Commission
Regular MeetingSchenectady, NY · November 17, 2022
Minutes
Schenectady Historic District Commission
Meeting Minutes
November 17, 20221
I. CALL TO ORDER
Commissioner Yager called the meeting to order at 7:01 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Patricia Yager, Chair; Dr. Dean Bennett; Shaun Andriano; Joe Fava; Richard Unger;
Matt Smith, Senior Planner; Austin Erickson, Assistant Planner, Chris Marney, Assistant
Corporation Counsel; Sylvia Jimison, Development Staff
VIRTURAL: Zakhar Berkovich
ABSENT: Shaun Andriano
EXCUSED: Shaun Andriano
III. CONFLICT OF INTEREST
None.
IV. ADOPTION OF MEETING MINUTES
October 27, 2022, minutes to be corrected with the following:
Item A was omitted from the VIII Miscellaneous and the motion for the project.
Commissioner Unger made a motion that minutes of October 27, 2022, of the Schenectady Historic
District Commission to be approved subject to noting that item B of the regular agenda be recorded as
having been the motion and approved unanimously. And that for the record, be noted that item A under
miscellaneous was inadvertently omitted; for Item B, under miscellaneous be recorded as item B, as
opposed to Item A.
Agenda October 27, 2022, for items A and B:
IV. Miscellaneous
A. Consideration submitted by Schenectady Heritage Foundation to recommend the alteration of the OH
Overlay Historic District to include this property. The premises is located on the General Electric
Co. campus at 1 River Rd. and is known as “Building 37”.
B. Consideration submitted by Schenectady Heritage Foundation to recommend the alteration of the OH
Overlay Historic District to include this property. The premises is located at 302 State St. and is
known as the “Masonic Temple”.
V. Call for Members of Public to Speak on Agenda Items
VI. Application
A. Consideration for approval submitted by Spencer Napolitano to install fencing and landscaping.
The premises is located at 713 Union St. in the Union Street Historic District.
Mr. Spencer Napolitano appeared before the commission to give a 6 month update to his project for
installing a fence and landscaping at 713 Union Street. He stated the tenants are no longer at the building
and the building has been cleared out. He is trying to meet the 6 months fence proposal and said that it
will be an extensive project. If the existing fence would be replicated it would be in bronze and would be
no less than $75,000.00. The fence will be bronze fencing and he want to extend fencing to Seward side to
have them both match.
He has sought opinion from Armondo & Son’s General Welding. Mr. Napolitano provided pictures of a
plain fence with circles and provided a second option to Matt Smith of stick style fence. It was
recommended for him to use flat top rail in high traffic area because people might put trash on them.
Also, having a point on top is a liability.
Commissioner Yager asked if any other comments from the Commissioners. She also asked Mr.
Napolitano if he had searched the internet and that it’s important to preserve parts of the fence. The
applicant said the pieces are badly rusted.
Commissioner Yager wanted to know any of the fence could be saved for later use. She said it was
important to preserve parts of the fence.
Commissioner Yager invited Ms. Gloria Kishton, from the Schenectady Heritage Foundation to give
comments about the proposed fence. Ms. Kishton suggested setting up a meeting with the neighbor, the
Walker family to discuss if they could possibly use parts of the fence to retore their fence. The Heritage
Foundation would set-up the meeting about the fence.
She also stated a simple fence with a flat top should be used and not to use something with circles because
its not accurate for historical architect. She suggested seeing Avon and Douglas Streets for a fence
located there on Lenox Street. Ms. Kishton also said the applicant should consult with their architect to
advise them.
Lastly, she wanted to know if there would be specifications be provided for the fence such as height of
fence, site plan, and weight of metal. The Commission stated that information had been provided.
Commissioner Fava stated something should be created with the old fencing or to store it. To use fencing
help the neighbor next door; or to keep some to fix fence.
Commissioner Unger stated the fence could be recycled- save some parts and reuse some parts. Dr.
Bennet did not feel the fence was worth saving and the fence is a loss at this point.
RESOLUTION
Commissioner Dr. Bennett made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Unger to approve the
application with the following conditions:
• Motion to replace fence in year 2024
• Approve fence without the circles
• Size: 4 feet tall and 6 feet section
• Color: Steel/powder blue black
• Provide location/site plan
• Recommended to meet with neighbor to use salvage fencing
And with the following finding of fact:
1. This is a Type II SEQRA.
2. The Commissioners cited Preservation Standards #2, #5 and #6 as the guidelines for their
approval as the application did meet these standards.
Motion carried unanimously.
VII. Miscellaneous
A. Public comments on the draft “Design Guidelines for the City of Schenectady: Local Historic
District and Landmarks” previously presented by Thaler Reilly Wilson Architecture &
Preservation.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Ms. Mary Werner of 1155 Stratford Rd came before the commission to give feedback about the Design
Guidelines for the City of Schenectady. She thanked the commission for the opportunity to speak.
She thinks it's more important for preservation of trees, in the historic districts because they contribute to
the overall character and the history of nature, but also for the ecological balance and social health and
also provides solutions to climate change.
She would like to emphasize although that she feels this is an important first step. She stated that she
would like the commission to urge the Development Department to follow through on recommendations,
a report that was recently released by them is a pre-management plan.
Recommendations to establish a tree Council for the city to update the city's tree plan and to hire either an
arborist or a forester on staff.
She wants requirements in place for a statement from a certified arborist. Further, procedures for property
owners, to address tree removal without approval. Lastly, she looks forward to sharing the final document
with her neighbors, and a new era of tree Preservation, not just in historic districts, but in the city as well.
Ms. Gloria Kishton came before the commission and stated 3 people from Heritage Foundation,
reviewed the draft document, and one of their board members, teaches at the college level. She reviewed
the architectural style section. The board member had several items that she disagreed with the
consultants about. Ms. Kishton said the board members reviewed the document page by page and noted
comments. It was labor intensive reviewing the draft of the guide.
Ms. Kishton wanted to know how certain things would be resolved. What comments will be
consolidated? Will there be a second draft?
Matt Smith said Austin Erickson, new Assistant City Planner, will be reviewing draft and will make
grammatical changes. He will work with staff and consultants to select which public comments will be
included.
Overall, Ms. Kishton stated overall the draft of the guide was a “good job!”
Commissioner Yager asked if there were any other comments from the public about draft of the guide and
there were no other comments.
Commissioner Unger wanted to know that once the guidelines are completed, if one wants to add another
photo, a living document, can changes be made? Attorney Marney stated, is up to the board. Dr. Bennett
said not a pdf file, but the original file should be used.
Commissioner Unger had some concerns about the consent agenda and if the applicant should reappear
for the consent agenda. He also said he like amendments for the codes.
VIII. Motion by Commissioner Unger, seconded by Commissioner Fava to adjourn at 8:19 p.m.
Motion carried unanimously.
Agenda
Schenectady Historic District Commission
To: Historic District Commission
From: Matthew Smith, Senior Planner
Subject: Regular Meeting, Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 7:00 PM – City Hall – Room 110
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Conflicts of Interest
IV. Adoption of Prior Meeting's Minutes
V. Call for Members of Public to Speak on Agenda Items
VI. Applications
A. Consideration for approval submitted by Spencer Napolitano to install fencing and landscaping.
The premises is located at 713 Union St. in the Union Street Historic District.
VII. Miscellaneous
A. Public comments on the draft “Design Guidelines for the City of Schenectady: Local Historic
District and Landmarks” previously presented by Thaler Reilly Wilson Architecture &
Preservation.
VIII. Adjourn
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