Planning Commission
Regular MeetingSchenectady, NY · January 17, 2024
Minutes
City of Schenectady
NEW YORK
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION Minutes
January 17 , 2024
I. CALL TO ORDER
Meeting called to order at 6:00 p.m.
II. ATTENDANCE
Present: Mary Moore Wallinger; Chair, Bradley Lewis; Vice Chair, Jason
Bogdanowicz-Wilson; Dharam Hitlall; Susan Nadler; Randall Beach;
Michael Tearno; Hayden Engert; and Jack Connelly, Assistant Planner
Excused : Colin Evers; Christine Primiano, Principal Planner; Maxine
Barash, Corporation Counsel
III. Conflict of Interest Check
No conflicts of interest for this meeting
Commissioner Wallinger : informed everyone that the meeting will start with the consent
agenda, and she started with the roll call of all the Commissioners that were present, as
stated above. Commissioner Wallinger went on to list the projects that were going to be
discussed for the evening, and if anyone was there to speak about a project that wasn’t
on the list, the Commission wasn’t going to be able to speak on it this evening. If the
Commissioners have questions, the projects will be introduced, and applicants can
come forward to speak about the project to the commissioners. The public will also have
an opportunity to speak to the projects.
Commissioner Engert made a motion to approve the December 20 minutes with
Commissioner Tearno seconding. The motion was carried unanimously.
I. NEW BUSINESS
A. Electric City Horses LLC requests site plan approval pursuant to Section 264-90M of a
proposal to operate a restaurant at 912 McClellan Street, tax parcel # 50.21-3-24,
located in a “C-2” Mixed Use Commercial District
Mr. Thomas Nicchi , owner of Electric City Horses LLC came forward to talk with the
Commission. Mr. Nicchi started by saying that the project is to reopen the old Horses Lounge
with little to no modifications to the site. Mr. Nicchi stated that the distance from the curb to the
post of the sign was 17.3 feet, putting it fully onto the applicant’s property and not at all in the
right-of-way. Commissioner Wallinger guessed looking at the sign, even though the exact
dimensions were unknown, that the sign itself extended into the right-of-way, which would then
trigger the need for a revocable permit.
In response to the staff comments made by the Engineering Department, Mr. Nicchi said he
would be happy to provide a more accurate site plan for approval.
Mr. Nicchi mentioned that the restaurant is ready to open, and any approvals from the Liquor
Authority will be in place once approvals are granted from the City.
Commissioner Wallinger asked about an ADA accessible ramp. Mr. Nicchi responded saying
that there was not one proposed, and had the belief that the building would be allowed to remain
as is in terms of ADA accessibility. Many facets of the building, including bathrooms and interior
seating would need to be changed which would not be economically feasible for the applicant.
Commissioner Wallinger believed that there was a possibility they could be grandfathered into
not needing the ADA items, however Mr. Nicchi would need to check with the Codes
Department for confirmation.
Mr. Nicchi said he had no issue getting a Sidewalk Café permit, and confirmed with
Commissioner Wallinger that that would not be needed until the warmer months when the patio
was planned to be in use.
Commissioner Wallinger mentioned that an area variance would be needed to allow for no on
site parking. Mr. Nicchi briefly discussed that process with Mr. Connelly, and said that he would
get application materials in for the February BZA meeting.
Mr. Nicchi stated that he planned on doing some exterior beautification in the spring when he
applied for the Sidewalk Café permit, including touching up the fence in the front.
Commissioner Wallinger told the applicant that a street tree would be needed as a condition of
approval. Given the fact that there are wires over the section that would have the tree, a smaller
flowering tree would be needed. Commissioner Wallinger said that the planting of the tree
should wait for the warmer months and would not hold up any approvals granted by the City.
Commissioner Wallinger opened the public. There were no comments and the public hearing
was closed.
Motion made by Commissioner Nadler , Seconded by Commissioner Engert , to issue the site
plan approval with the following conditions:
1. Revised site plan with accurate dimensions be submitted to the Engineering
Department
2. Revocable permit is obtained for the sign
3. ADA accessibility is coordinated with the Codes Department
4. Area variance to be obtained from the BZA to allow for no on site parking
5. Sidewalk Café permit be obtained
6. All existing green space be maintained
7. One street tree be planted in front of building
Motion carried unanimously.
B. The Bahlman Group, LLC requests site plan approval pursuant to Section 264-
90 H of a proposal to develop a self-service storage facility at 450 Duane
Avenue, tax parcel # 49.58-2-13, located in a “C-5” Business District.
Mr. Dave Kimmer of ABD Engineering came forward to discuss the project. Mr.
Kimmer came with Casper Bahlman of the Bahlman Group.
Mr. Kimmer mentioned that a similar approval for the site was given by the Planning
Commission in 2022 but the sale of the property never occurred. The only difference
with this proposal is the addition of a ramp to the loading docks.
Mr. Kimmer stated they were open to adding street trees along Duane Avenue and
had no issue with the rest of the conditions mentioned in the staff comments.
Ms. Primiano recommended in previous conversations that Mr. Kimmer briefly go
through an additional project that the Bahlman Group is planning on developing
across the street to add another storage facility. The current proposal on 450 Duane
would be climate controlled self-storage while the location across the street would be
non-climate controlled.
Mr. Kimmer noted that they were not expecting any approvals for the other site, just
making the Commission aware that more applications regarding this area will be
coming soon.
Mr. Bahlman told the Commission that this would only be personal storage, and not
used for professional or commercial purposes.
Commissioner Wallinger said that she appreciated the landscaping detail
proposed,and recommended taller shade trees as there were no power lines that
would hinder their growth.
Commissioner Nadler asked if they predicted traffic to be a concern as there would
be a lot of new storage units added to the site. Mr. Bahlman said that some of their
other sites averaged 2 visits per year for each storage unit, so traffic would not be an
issue here.
Commissioner Wilson noted that since there would be such minimal traffic, there
may be an excess of parking on the site and asked if vehicular storage was a plan as
well for the site. Mr. Bahlman said that there were no such plans, and they wanted to
leave the parking situation as is for the time being. Commissioner Wallinger said that
she was fine leaving the parking alone for now, but mentioned that the applicant
would need to return if any additional plans for more storage or vehicular storage
arose later on.
As of now, there is no proposed signage outside of the monument sign, but Mr.
Bahlman said they would return with any future sign plans. Additionally, the site will
be gated for security.
The applicant told Commissioner Nadler that the lighting was replaced previously
and they did not plan on further modifying that.
Commissioner Tearno asked about the equipment on the roof left by the former
owners. Mr. Bahlman assured him that that equipment would be removed.
Mr. Bahlman said that dumpsters on sites like these created problems, and therefore
they were not going to add any to the site.
In regards to the Watt Street site mentioned by the applicants, Commissioner
Wallinger note that she would like to see trees added along Watt Street similarly to
the proposal for Duane Ave.
Commissioner Wallinger opened the public hearing. There were no public
comments and the public hearing was closed.
Motion made by Commissioner Beach to adopt a negative declaration for SEQR,
seconded by Commissioner Lewis. Motion carried unanimously.
Motion made by Commissioner Wilson , seconded by Commissioner Lewis, to issue
site plan approval for the proposal with the following conditions:
1. The address will be prominently displayed so that it is easily visible from Duane
Avenue.
2. Metal roll gates and iron bars cannot be installed on any doors or windows at any
time in the future.
3. The sections of broken sidewalk on the northeastern side of the site will be replaced.
A sidewalk replacement permit issued by the City Engineering Department is
required. The sidewalk will be replaced prior to the opening of the business.
4. Cast Iron Detectable Warning Units will be installed on the sidewalk prior to the
opening of the business.
5. Shade trees will be planted on the interior of the site pursuant to Section 264-50. All
striped islands at the end of each parking row will be replaced with landscaped
islands with shade trees and landscaping and shrubbery.
6. A minimum of 6 (six) street trees will be added to the green space along the
perimeter of the site on Duane Avenue.
7. All landscaping will be planted prior to the opening of the business.
8. The sign details will be submitted to the Department of Development for final
approval prior to purchase and fabrication of the sign.
9. The entry gate will be recessed 24 feet to allow for vehicles entering the site to allow
space for queuing at the entrance.
10. Applicant to return to the Planning Commission if any additional storage plans for the
parking are requested in the future.
11. A revised site plan will be submitted to the City Planner for final approval prior to the
issuance of building permits.
Motion carried unanimously.
C. Starbucks Coffee Company requests an amended site plan approval pursuant to
Section 264-90 I of a proposal to modify the exterior of the building and
configuration of the drive-thru at 2441 Watt Street, tax parcel # 60.29-2-3.1.
located in a “C-5” Business District.
Mr. David LoFrisco of Kimley Horn came forward to discuss the changes to the site
plan for 2441 Watt Street. The amendments offer improvements to the drive-thru
queuing of the Starbucks, a new garbage facility, and improved landscaping.
The changes would prevent customers from backing out onto Watt Street which is
what occasionally happens now. The façade will also be changed to match the
newer store designs that Starbucks is putting out.
Mr. LoFrisco said that a majority of the business for this location is drive-thru, with
only a small portion of the business coming inside and sitting down.
Mr. LoFrisco detailed the ‘Do Not Enter’ signs which would be painted to the asphalt.
The additional signage would make it exceptionally clear the direction that the cars
should be directed to avoid unnecessary collisions.
Commissioner Wallinger recommended the arbor vitaes proposed be changed to
shade trees to provide better visibility and shade for any patrons sitting outside.
Mr. LoFrisco stated that there would be no changes to any of the vehicular entrances
to the site.
Commissioner Wallinger heard no comments from the public after opening the floor,
and therefore closed the public comment period.
Motion made by Commissioner Nadler , seconded by Commissioner Beach, to
issue site plan approval with the following conditions:
1. The applicant would coordinate with the Engineering Department to locate the storm
lines on the site drawings
2. The 8 arborvitaes would be changed to 3-4 taller shade trees, which would be
confirmed by Department of Development staff.
Motion carried unanimously.
D. J&J Apartments LLC requests site plan approval pursuant to Section 264-90 F of
a proposal to create 17 residential units at 3 State Street, tax parcel #39.63-3-34,
located in a “C-4” Downtown Commercial District
No applicant was present for this project. The Commission paused discussion until after
agenda item E. Before progression to item E, members of the public living close by
stated that they came with concerns on how the 17 new units would impact their privacy,
and what measures would be taken to mitigate that.
After Agenda item E, the Commission decided to table this application
Motion made by Commissioner Engert , seconded by Commissioner Wilson , to table
the application until the applicant could be heard in person.
Motion carried unanimously.
E. James Hesler requests site plan approval pursuant to Section 264-90 F of a
proposal to construct three apartment buildings with a total of 12 residential units,
at the corner of Kings Road and Menga Drive, tax parcel # 60.61-1-3, located in
an “R-3” Multiple Family Residential District
Mr. Don Cropsey came forward on behalf of the applicant and property owner James
Hesler. Mr. Cropsey noted that this applicant had come before the Planning Commission
before, but did not take action after their approvals lapsed. This application will comply with
the updated fire code which was not in affect during their previous visits. Mr. Cropsey stated
that they intended to put a sprinkler system with a Fire Department connection on the Menga
Drive side of the property.
In regards to staff comments regarding the proposed invasive burning bushes, Mr. Cropsey
said that they were happy to replace those with native plants found in the Pine Bush area,
which lies close by. Shadblow was mentioned as a possible replacement.
The applicant would also be happy to comply with the staff comments of moving the Scotch
pine trees back away from the road for visibility and safety.
While building colors were not fully determined, Mr. Cropsey said that he planned on having
them match buildings in the area, and would consult with the Department of Development
before final decisions were made.
The light fixtures would be constructed to shield nearby residents from glare.
To mitigate stormwater runoff concerns, Mr. Cropsey said that a swale would be created
behind the two buildings, directing water towards the eastern side of the property. Grading
will take place so water does not run to adjacent properties.
Mr. Cropsey confirmed for Commissioner Wallinger that 515 Kings Road would remain
standing, but the barn on the property would be demolished.
Mr. Cropsey told Commissioner Hitlall that he did not view stormwater as an issue, because
any overflow would likely be infiltrated into the ground as the soil there was highly sandy due
to its proximity to the Pine Bush.
Commissioner Wallinger opened the public hearing.
A nearby neighbor spoke during the public comment period, stating support for the
developers and the project, but expressed concerns about the ongoing traffic and speeding
issues on Kings Road. He mentioned that he was speaking on behalf of other neighbors who
were unable to be in attendance and wanted to see stop signs added along Kings Road to
slow passing cars down.
The Commission unanimously agreed with the neighbor’s traffic concerns.
Commissioner Nadler made a motion express Planning Commission support for the City
taking a stronger look at traffic along Kings Road. Seconded by Commissioner Tearno.
Motion carried unanimously.
Hearing no further public comment, Commissioner Wallinger closed the public comment
period.
Commissioner Wallinger stated that an updated grading plan would need to be submitted to
the Engineering Department.
Commissioner recommended that the applicant stay away from highly reflective glass for the
windows, as there are a large number of birds living in that area near the Pine Bush.
Motion made by Commissioner Beach, seconded by Commissioner Engert , to
issue site plan approval with the following conditions:
All necessary fire code conditions be met
Sewer report to be submitted to the Water Department
Revised grading plan be submitted to Engineering
Burning bushes be removed from plan and replaced with a non-invasive
species
Scotch Pine trees be set back at least 20 feet from the street
Color of buildings to be sent into Department of Development for approval
Especially reflective glass to be avoided as a construction material
Motion carried unanimously.
II. MISCELLANEOUS
Commissioner Nadler opened discussion regarding the large quantity of smoke shops
opening up throughout Schenectady, particularly in the Upper Union Street region. The
Commission voiced unanimous agreement with Commissioner Nadler that this was
becoming an issue in the City, and discussed coming forward next month with an official
recommendation to the City Council about taking action on this issue.
III. ADJOURN
Motion to adjourn made by Commissioner Engert , seconded by Commissioner Tearno . The
meeting adjourned at 7:32PM.
Agenda
City of Schenectady
NEW YORK
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
Room 206, City Hall, Jay Street
Schenectady, NY 12305-1938
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT the City of Schenectady Planning Commission will conduct a
meeting at 6:00 PM on Wednesday January 17, 2024 in City Hall, Room 110, 105 Jay Street,
Schenectady NY 12305.
If you would like to email comments for the public hearing, please send prior to the meeting and include your
name and address, to cprimiano@schenectadyny.gov
I. NEW BUSINESS
A. ELECTRIC CITY HORSES LLC requests site plan approval pursuant to Section 264-90 M
of a proposal to operate a restaurant at 912 McClellan Street, tax parcel #
50.21-3-24, located in a “C-2” Mixed Use Commercial District.
B. THE BAHLMAN GROUP, LLC requests site plan approval pursuant to Section 264-90 H
of a proposal to develop a self-service storage facility at 450 Duane Avenue, tax
parcel # 49.58-2-13, located in a “C-5” Business District.
C. STARBUCKS COFFEE COMPANY requests an amended site plan approval pursuant to
Section 264-90 I of a proposal to modify the exterior of the building and
configuration of the drive-thru at 2441 Watt Street, tax parcel # 60.29-2-3.1, located
in a “C-5” Business District.
D. J&J APARTMENTS LLC requests site plan approval pursuant to Section 264-90 F of a
proposal to create 17 residential units at 3 State Street, tax parcel # 39.63-3-34,
located in a “C-4” Downtown Commercial District.
E. JAMES HESLER requests site plan approval pursuant to Section 264-90 F of a proposal
to construct three apartment buildings with a total of 12 residential units, at the
corner of Kings Road and Menga Drive, tax parcel # 60.61-1-3, located in an “R-3”
Multiple Family Residential District.
II. OLD BUSINESS
III. MISCELLANEOUS
IV. ADJOURN
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