Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingSchenectady, NY · March 2, 2022
Minutes
City of Schenectady
Board of Zoning Appeals
Meeting Minutes
March 2, 2022
I. CALL TO ORDER
Mr. Connelly called the meeting to order at 6:46 p.m.
After calling the meeting to order Mr. Connelly explained to the members of the
public present how the consideration of the applications would proceed. He stated
that the applicants would have an opportunity to make their presentation to the Board,
followed by any members of the public who would like to speak in favor of the
application. Next any members of the public in opposition to the application would
be invited to speak, followed by any further discussion or questions the Board
Members wished to put forth prior to the vote. He added that after the initial
presentation of the proposal the applicant would not be given another opportunity to
comment unless directly questioned by a Board Member.
II. ATTENDANCE
PRESENT: David Connelly, Vice Chairman, Fred Clark, Brendan Keller, Helene
Lester, Avi Epstein, Zoning Officer, Andrew Koldin, Corporation Counsel, Chris
Marney, Assistant Corporation Counsel, and Sylva Jimison, Department of
Development Staff
ABSENT: James Gleason, Chair and Mary D’Alessandro-Gilmore (excused)
III. CONFLICT OF INTEREST
None.
IV. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES
Motion by Mr. Connelly, seconded by Mr. Keller, seconded to approve the Minutes
of the January 5, 2022 meeting as submitted.
Motion carried unanimously.
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V. APPLICATIONS
A. Live in Schenectady, LLC, requests area variances for 1128, 1132, 1136,1140, and 1144
Barrett St (39.65-2-45, 39.65-2-46, 39.57-4-9.11, 39.57-4-61 & 39.57-4-62), located within
the R-2 Two Family zoning district, to allow for a subdivision that would create five (5)
parcels with a frontage of 20.52ft and two (2) parcels with a frontage of 23.65ft, where a
minimum of 40ft is required and two (2) 0ft side yard setbacks, where a minimum setback of
5ft is required pursuant Schedule C of the zoning ordinance
Alice from MJ Engineering represented Live in Schenectady, LLC. Alice stated the project
had been approved back in 2016 and we are looking at the units in the R-2 zoning district that
will be taking 5 lots and converting them into 7. Pictures of the lots were shown on the
monitor of what the new lots will become. In 2016, an area variance for front and back yard
setbacks were approved. The variances being requested this time are for the frontage and side
yard setback for parcels that will be created via a subdivision.
Mr. Connelly asked, about existing units, frontage across the street and if the units are
comparable. Avi Epstein, Zoning Officer, stated the frontage is 20-25 feet, and the applicant
stated that these units will be very similar.
Mr. Keller asked the applicant when they applied for the original variances. The applicant
replied she didn’t know exact date.
Mr. Connelly asked if there were any further questions from the BZA members. Hearing
none, Mr. Connelly, opened the public hearing and asked if there were any members of the
public that would like to speak in favor or in opposition to application.
PUBLIC COMMENTS IN FAVOR
None.
PUBLIC COMMENTS IN OPPOSITION
Ms. Elizabeth Mastrianni, stated she’s not necessarily in opposition to the project but wants
more clarification. She lives at 119 Park Place and stated there is an alley behind the
subdivision that is in very rough shape. The alley is almost non-existence, and maybe 10 feet in
width, making it hard to get down. When its snowing, it never gets plowed.
Mr. Connelly, asked who owns the area? Ms. Mastrianni stated, I believe the city does, and
there is no garbage collection in the back. Neighbors will have to wheel their garbage cans
around for pick-up.
Mr. Connelly closed public comments for board to discuss the project. Ms. Lester looked at
property on her cell phone with Mr. Clark. Andrew Koldin, Corporation Counsel, and stated
alley is outside the purview of this variance request.
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CONTINUED DISCUSSION
Mr. Connelly added, I vaguely remember looking at both sides of the street this is a variation of
6 years ago. I don’t think we had any issues. The applicant will talk to engineering about the
condition of the alley, and it does not affect the variance.
SEQR RESOLUTION
Motion by Mr. Keller, seconded by Ms. Lester, to declare this project a Type II SEQR Action.
Motion carried unanimously.
AREA VARIANCE APPROVAL
Motion by Mr. Keller, seconded by Ms. Lester, to approve the area variance based on the
following:
1. No undesirable change will be produced in the neighborhood. Similar development has already
been approved in this neighborhood.
2. The benefit sought by the applicant cannot be achieved by another method. Townhouses are a
permitted use but wouldn’t be feasible without the requested area variances.
3. The variance is not substantial.
4. There will not be an adverse effect on physical or environmental conditions in the
neighborhood. The properties will still have plenty of green space and impervious surface to
offset any potential water runoff concerns.
Motion carried unanimously.
C. Agnes Davis, President of Senga World, LLC, requests a zoning interpretation of 264-40(C),
264-43 and 264-44 regarding off-street parking requirements, as it relates to the property
located at 203 Union St (39.63-2-45.1), which directly abuts 2 North Ferry St (39.63-2-46.21).
Mr. Cotch and Attorney Kurz presented the application. Mr. Cotch stated he is married to the
owner, Ms. Agnes Davis, but that she was not able to attend the meeting because of staffing
issues. Attorney Kurz represented Ms. Davis and presented information for the zoning
interpretation of Schedule C.
Attorney Kurz stated Ms. Davis has owned the property since 2004 and he believes she is one of
few Black owners of properties in the Stockade and she would like to complete the 5 units she
owns. The work has been halted. The applicant appreciates there is a citizen oversight of the
building and zoning departments and will take an independent look at the 2 submitted
applications. The applicant requested to present the applications out of order and to present the
second application first, regarding off street parking requirements.
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Mr. Connelly, read into the record, that the applicant was referring to a request of a zoning
interpretation of 264-40(C), 264-43 and 264-44 regarding off-street parking. Item C on the
agenda will be proceeding first and item B will be presented last.
Mr. Steven Cotch submitted a large size map because he said 8x11 copies are difficult to follow.
He also submitted the 1986 Denison Survey, an off-color survey from the county office.
Mr. Cotch provided the board members with pictures of the parking that had been included with
the application. He stated the pictures were of the rear of the building before 1986 and included
when the landing and stairs were part of the unit. The second picture presented to the board
included covered roof and the area that existed June 5, 2020. Also, prior to the demolition there
were plants that act as edging, according to Mr. Cotch. There were 63 inches of steps that went
out to the old steps. The 1987 easement was granted between the Schneiderwind’s, for the right
to maintain and construct stair and steps. In October 1987 a 5 foot easement was granted, and the
1986 Denison Survey shows property line with the Schneiderwinds.
Mr. Keller asked what the easement specifically states and what is the language in the easement?
Mr. Kurz noted the easement states it’s for the purpose of reconstruction and construction. The
landing was there when it was constructed. The focus is for the parking issue and the
Schneiderwinds’ acknowledge every right to retain that improvement.
Mr. Keller, stated, he just wanted to be careful about stating exactly what the permits,
applications and easements actually say.
Mr. Kurz, asked Mr.Cotch to locate the document while he showed pictures of the parking area
that the Schneiderwinds had removed to improve their parking area. He indicated that the
Schneiderwinds violated the code by expanding the parking.
Mr. Keller wanted to know when the vegetation was put in and Mr. Cotch replied, the vegetation
was there when he got involved with the property in 2017.
Mr. Kurz stated that zoning code 264-40(C) provides that preexisting off-street parking areas and
lots which are nonconforming with respect to any of the design standards specified in § 264-
43 may be lawfully continued, provided that such nonconforming parking area is not enlarged or
altered in a way which increases its nonconformity. Where the premises served by such
nonconforming parking area are substantially improved, the parking area shall also be improved
in compliance with the design standards specified herein. Why Agnes Davis is appealing the
interpretation becomes apparent if you look at 4th picture in the series provided. You can see that
the cars are parked very close to the house and the structure.
Mr. Kurz proceeded to describe the photos that were passed around. The next picture also
demonstrates how vehicles are parked and impedes the ability for use [parking cars] and this
becomes a lifesaving issue if someone can block the entrance of a building. This could be a
lifesaving problem and we want to protect life.
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The pictures showed parking in front of concrete slab and people would park against the
stairway. Another picture showed the Schneiderwind’s car that is overhanging the property line
and parking had been altered by taking out vegetation; code requires a 4 feet distance and they
are parking over the 4 feet requirement.
Mr. Connelly asked to see the survey map for the lot lines. There is 3.12 feet from the building to
the lot line and by looking at the survey this becomes a little confusing. Mr. Connelly asked if
the wooden steps go out 5 feet. Mr. Kurz said no, the wooden steps extend to easement area. Mr.
Cotch added, the original lot line that is pie shape was part of the 1987 easement.
Mr. Kurz, went onto next picture he presented to the board, which he says showed there is ample
parking space that does not encroach the Schneiderwind’s right away. This was to provide safe
egress for the occupants to bring large objects into the building and that’s why it is constructed
the way it is.
Mr. Kurz continued to state that the next picture shows parking right up to the building which is
not permissible. He stated, this is a deliberate act to cause harm to the tenants. He also stated that
there was a little party that was held in this area. As neighbors they are being malicious. I don’t
think the city wants that and Ms. Davis wants to create a better place for people to live and that is
why she has filed a complaint with Zoning Officer.
Mr. Kurz went on to say, the Zoning Officer cited the correct provision of the code but ignored
the facts and without dispute the Schneiderwind’s have altered their parking area and must
confirm to the current code, because they are endangering the people who reside in the building.
Mr. Kurz stated that Ms. Davis, the owner of the building, cannot have her tenants be at peace, if
the Schneiderwind’s want to park the way they are.
Mr. Cotch added he contacted code enforcement and they informed him it was a civil issue and
the police were called and would not address it because it’s a civil issue. The city does not have a
fire Marshall and I am a code guy, you cannot block a fire way. Mr. Lunn was also notified of
the issue and he indicated it’s a zoning issue. Mr. Lunn is responsible for enforcing zoning
issues. The Zoning Officer said he was not responsible for interpreting easements, per the email
he sent.
Mr. Connelly, at the end of the presentation asked if the board had any questions.
Mr. Keller wanted to know how long had the landscaping been at the property?
Mr. Cotch, I got involved in 2017 and that would be a question for Ms. Davis.
Mr. Keller said, we have no way to find out if the lot was extended or did the lot exist in its
present condition?
Mr. Kurz stated he was trying to understand the question and there has been a change to the area
which triggers code compliance.
Mr. Cotch added, before the steps were demolished, I want to give you a history of what is
known about the property in its present condition.
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Mr. Keller, asked again, if there was not landscaping present back in the 80s and 90s wouldn’t
that mean nothing has changed?
Mr. Kurz disagreed because there is nothing in the code about reducing the size of a parking lot,
but to expand it is an issue.
Mr. Cotch went on to say, look at the Denison survey, the original lot line came off the corner
203 union, 5 feet from the corner of the house to the edge of the wooden stairs and in 1987 there
was a chain fence.
Mr. Keller stated, looking at the survey there was no landscaping in 1986.
Mr. Keller wanted to know when the lot was created and was it being used as its being used now.
Mr. Epstein stated he wasn’t aware of the exact dates. From the best he could tell the property
has been using that parking area since the 1980s if not prior.
Mr. Keller indicated that landscaping in the middle of the lot would triggered the expansion of
the non-confirm use of the property.
Mr. Cotch, explained that he really didn’t know what had changed about the property and would
need to get Ms. Davis on the phone to tell what has changed about the property. He added, Ms.
Davis attempted to be a good neighbor to the Schneiderwind’s when their shrubs were destroyed
during a construction project. Ms. Davis offered to replace the shrubs and paving stone that
prevented parking when he demoed the stairs. The parking got closer to the parking line and
parking is not a violation.
Mr. Connelly asked Andrew Koldin, Corporation Counsel, if the projects are interrelated would
it be best to clear one first? Andrew Koldin’s response was it makes sense to do that and create a
separate record for the other project.
Mr. Connelly, asked if anyone else had anything to add.
PUBLIC COMMENTS IN FAVOR
None.
PUBLIC COMMENT IN OPPOSITION
Ms. Schneiderwind of 203 Union Street opposed the setback requirements. She stated that she
did not know what to expect, so she brought a letter that could be read to the board. As she began
to read the letter, Mr. Connelly informed her that we were still on the parking issue and if she
would like to make a comment on that application.
Ms. Schneiderwind stated that she has pictures of the property with a chain link fence and the
property has been in the family since 1918. She also had a picture taken in 1997 with her in it
and she passed the photos around for board members to view to see that there was nothing in the
parking area.
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Andrew Koldin, requested that staff make copies of the photos and to return the originals to her.
Ms. Schneiderwind also presented a 1988 appraisal report and pictures that showed the parking
area with 4 parking spots and the rear can see steps going to North Ferry Street. It was stated
that in the photos you can see original steps in 1988 after the easement was approved. She also
added that the plants were destroyed by Mr. Cotch. The plants had been put in for good will for
her husband who had cancer.
Ms. Schneiderwind claimed that the planting area was destroyed by Mr. Cotch’s helpers. She
offered to put tarps down, but he refused, and the area was already demolished. Also, at that
same time a coffee can of nails was collected, and we emailed Mr. Cotch not to do it again.
Copies of the email were made available. She asked Ms. Davis in 2020 when she married Mr.
Cotch that it doesn’t happen again.
Ms. Schneiderwind also reported that Mr.Cotch put in a chain link fence that prevented her
family from parking in the area. She had to contact the Schenectady Police Department and they
came to the property. She requested a liaison from the city and has been to the Department of
Development to speak to the Zoning Officer, Avi Epstein. She indicated not much could be done.
She also stated the easement that the lawyer completed on November 2, 1987, said the parcel
was subject to maintenance agreement, ingress and egress be allowed in the area.
Copies of emails were provided to the board to read because Ms. Schneiderwind said she doesn’t
speak the way the emails were written.
Ms. Schneiderwind went on to say that her husband is blind and that her family was denied
access to the parking area. Mr. Cotch interjected that was not correct. Ms. Schneiderwind
continued to say that the lady at the desk said there was not a parking permit.
Ms. Schneiderwind said stairs and steps in the pictures from the 1940’s to the 1980’s was able to
get into the parking area and the easement did not change safety or fire concerns as parking goes.
Also, the cars never set there in the parking area because the family is often in and out. She
proceeded to show a picture of the wooden steps being removed and a concrete path was poured
to match the property line.
Ms. Schneiderwind added that Ms. Davis must abide by the new codes and the new construction
causes inconvenience for parking and they have to maneuver around things put in their way to
park the car. Ms. Davis offered to pave the area and replace the plants that were destroyed, but
the offer was refused because they did not want to feel obligated and would have to be careful
about parking two cars.
Andrew Koldin, Corporation Counsel, stated certain records are being passed around by Ms.
Schneiderwind that includes an appraisal report, and for the documents to be admitted as copies.
The board would not retain the original documents and copies will be made of her documents.
Mr. Connelly asked if the board had any questions for Ms. Schneiderwind
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Ms. Lester asked Ms. Schneiderwind how long she has lived at the property? Ms. Schneiderwind
replied, since 2002 or 2003, but we have always parked in the spots.
Charlie Schneiderwind, added the cars must be parked at an angle. In 2004, Ms. Davis acquired
the property, and we maintained the property to 2017.
Mr. Connelly, asked again, if any other questions.
Andrew Koldin asked, have you have been parking in the back area of the property to date and
have there been expansions? Ms. Schneiderwind responded that yes they’ve been parking that
way and no the parking area has not expanded.
Mr. Connelly closed the public comment portion. He continued to state his concern was that
there was a lot of discussion regarding matters that the BZA has no purview over, such as the
easements.
Mr. Cotch interrupted the board discussion, to state that he wanted everyone to realize the Ms.
Schneiderwind’s put lawn furniture in the way of the easement and took paving marking paint
where the asphalt end, during the process while he was working in an rear apartment. He also
indicated he had an altercation with the other son.
Mr. Connelly informed Mr. Cotch that he cannot interrupt the Board Members and to please sit
down.
MOTION TO AFFIRM THE ZONING INTERPRETATION
The Board of Zoning Appeals affirmed the zoning interpretation made by the duly
authorized administrative official based on the following findings of fact:
1. The preexisting off-street parking area and nonconforming lot have existed in their
present condition since at least the 1980s, which was shown on the record by
documentary and photographic evidence, and that said preexisting off-street parking area
was established prior to the enactment of Sections 264-40, 264-43 and 264-44 of the
Zoning Code.
2. The addition or removal of incidental landscaping and/or vegetation does not constitute
an expansion of a legal preexisting off-street parking area and nonconforming lot, which
increases its nonconformity, under Section 264-40(c) of the Zoning Code for the City of
Schenectady.
3. As a legal preexisting off-street parking area and nonconforming lot under Section 264-
40(c) of the Zoning Code, compliance with Sections 264-43 and 264-44 are not required.
In light of the foregoing, the correct decision was reached by the duly authorized
administrative official.
Adopted by the following vote:
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Uphold: Clark; Connelly; Keller; Lester
Reverse:
Modify:
Table:
Absent: Gleason; Gilmore
Motion to Affirm: Mr. Keller Second by: Ms. Lester
B. Agnes Davis, President of Senga World, LLC, requests a zoning interpretation of Schedule
C and the required minimum rear yard setbacks as it relates to the property located at 2 North
Ferry St (39.63-2-46.21).
Attorney Kurz presented on behalf of Ms. Agnes Davis, Senga World, LLC, for request of a
zoning interpretation Schedule C. Also present was Ms. Davis’s spouse Mr. Cotch.
Mr. Kurz presented pictures to the board to illustrate that the construction pre-dates the zoning
code. He also stated that the easement interferes with Ms. Schneiderwind’s parking. Mr. Kurz
directed the board to look at Exhibit 3 that does not reserve the Schneiderwind’s right to park on
the five-foot easement and any encroachment on the easement is a violation of the building code.
Mr. Kurz went on to say the Zoning Officer denied her the building permit, see Exhibit 7. The
building permit was submitted August 17, 2020.
Mr. Kurz continued to say that the Zoning Officer took the position that the landing and stairway
did not meet the minimum requirements. He directed the board to review Exhibit 7 (building
permit application Ms. Davis submitted). Ms. Davis submitted the application to make
substantial repairs to the building to make it more habitable for people who live there.
As seen in the picture, interior construction of the deck and stairs were not installed and were
reserved until the end in which the application expired before the work was completed.
The building permit that was filed in 2021 could have been worded better in the application. It
did not reference a landing, however, an inspection was completed for the landing and stairs
which were not part of the building permit. Mr. Lunn said a new application was needed to
include the landing and steps because it was referred to as a deck and not a landing.
Mr. Kurz went on to say, he replied to Mr. Lunn’s request of a new application that was
submitted with a drawing 9/2021. When the application was submitted there was never any
concerns raised about the project. However, once the inspection was done, Mr. Lunn noted the
sonotubes needed to be addressed, so he did not approve construction for the project.
Mr. Kurz directed the boards attention to Exhibit 12 of a sketch stamped by an engineer that
shows a landing which was submitted to the Codes Department. The deck was 3x3 feet but its
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really not a deck, but rather a landing. Mr. Kurz instructed the board to turn to Exhibit 18 to
show there is no maximum size for a landing and the landing has to be the width of a door.
Mr. Keller stated the permit had expired so what was the inspector relying on to make the
determination. Mr. Kurz responded, the permit was with the Codes Department to rebuild the
steps.
Mr. Kurz placed a document in front of the board members to show what was in existence
before the setback requirements.
Mr. Connelly asked if there were any questions.
Andrew Koldin asked what the dimension of the steps in a photo were. Mr. Cotch replied, 55
inches, 2 feet onto the easement, the old landing dimensions were approximately 7x8 feet, 72
inches wide and 65 inches deep.
Andrew Koldin reiterated that the easement is not relevant and it’s fair to say previously there
was 5.5 feet and it has expanded beyond that.
Mr. Connelly asked if there were any more questions.
Andrew Koldin asked a clarifying question to Mr. Cotch about the landing having a minimum
and no maximum size. Are you saying it could be 100 feet if there is no maximum? Mr. Cotch
responded, the minimum width is 36 inches for stairs, 1 foot from rear door and could not meet
New York state building code max width of 3 feet.
Mr. Keller noted that the structure is being replaced by a significantly larger structure.
MOTION TO AFFIRM THE ZONING INTERPRETATION
The Board of Zoning Appeals affirmed the building permit denial and zoning
interpretation made by the duly authorized administrative official based on the following
findings of fact:
1. The previous structure shown on the historical photographs and survey maps submitted
was a legally permitted preexisting nonconforming structure which Applicant states was
approximately 6’-00” by 5’-05”. The new structure built by the Applicant, which was
stated to be approximately 7’-06” by 10’-06”, is not “grandfathered” as a preexisting
nonconforming structure. By Applicant’s admission, and as shown on the record with
both photographic and documentary evidence, the structure built by Applicant was
enlarged and is found by the Board of Zoning Appeals to be approximately 138% larger
than the footprint of the preexisting nonconforming structure. The enlargement of the
structure is in violation of Section 264-87 of the Zoning Code.
2. The Zoning Code does not specifically define a landing, which is term used in the New
York State Building Code. The Zoning Code does, however, define a deck in Section
264-2 as the following:
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A roofless outdoor space built as an aboveground platform projecting from the
wall of a principal building or accessory structure.
3. The structure that was built meets the definition of a deck found in Section 264-2 of the
Zoning Code and the Board of Zoning Appeals finds that structure is a deck and not
merely a landing.
4. The Board of Zoning Appeals finds the Applicant’s argument that the substantially
enlarged deck is a lawfully continuing “grandfathered” preexisting nonconforming
landing is without merit. Since the structure is a deck under the Zoning Code and was
substantially enlarged from the footprint of the documented original preexisting
nonconforming structure, it is subject to the minimum setback requirements specified in
Schedule C of the Zoning Code. As such, the correct decision was reached by the duly
authorized administrative official to deny the building permit application.
Adopted by the following vote:
Uphold: Clark; Connelly; Keller; Lester
Reverse:
Modify:
Table:
Absent: Gleason; Gilmore
Motion to Uphold: Mr. Keller Second by: Mr. Connelly
V. OTHER BUSINESS
None.
VII. MOTION TO ADJOURN
Motion by Ms. Lester, seconded by Mr. Keller, to adjourn the meeting.
Motion carried unanimously.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:35pm.
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Agenda
Schenectady Zoning Board of Appeals
To: Zoning Board of Appeals
From: Avi Epstein, Zoning Officer
Subject: Regular Meeting, Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 6:30 PM, City Hall, Room 110
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Review of Last Meetings' Minutes
A. Review and approve January’s meeting minutes
IV. Applications
A. Live in Schenectady, LLC, requests area variances for 1128, 1132, 1136,1140, and 1144
Barrett St (39.65-2-45, 39.65-2-46, 39.57-4-9.11, 39.57-4-61 & 39.57-4-62), located within
the R-2 Two Family zoning district, to allow for a subdivision that would create five (5)
parcels with a frontage of 20.52ft and two (2) parcels with a frontage of 23.65ft, where a a
minimum of 40ft is required and two (2) 0ft side yard setbacks, where a minimum setback
of 5ft is required pursuant Schedule C of the zoning ordinance.
B. Agnes Davis, President of Senga World, LLC, requests a zoning interpretation of
Schedule C and the required minimum rear yard setbacks as it relates to the property
located at 2 North Ferry St (39.63-2-46.21).
C. Agnes Davis, President of Senga World, LLC, requests a zoning interpretation of 264-
40(C), 264-43 and 264-44 regarding off-street parking requirements, as it relates to the
property located at 203 Union St (39.63-2-45.1), which directly abuts 2 North Ferry St
(39.63-2-46.21).
V. Other Business
VII. Adjourn
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