Planning Commission
Regular MeetingSitka, AK · February 7, 2017
Minutes
CITY AND BOROUGH OF SITKA
Minutes - Final
Planning Commission
Chris Spivey, Chair
Darrell Windsor, Vice Chair
Debra Pohlman
Randy Hughey
Richard Parmelee
Tuesday, February 7, 2017 7:00 PM Harrigan Centennial Hall
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Chair Spivey called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM.
Present: Spivey, Windsor, Pohlman, Hughey, Parmelee, Knox (Assembly
Liaison)
II. CONSIDERATION OF THE AGENDA
III. CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES
A Approval of the January 17, 2017 meeting minutes.
Parmelee/Windsor moved to APPROVE the January 17, 2017 meeting minutes.
Motion PASSED 5-0.
IV. REPORTS
B Planning Regulations and Procedures.
V. THE EVENING BUSINESS
C Discussion and direction of the land use, housing, and economic sections
of the Comprehensive Plan.
Bosak provided an introduction to the Comprehensive Plan process.
Sheinberg stated that the hope is that, at this meeting, the Commission will
approve the draft goals, actions, and objectives for the housing, economic,
and land use chapters, with the understanding that small changes may
continue to be made. Sheinberg stated that the second half of the meeting will
address future growth options. Sheinberg gave an overview of upcoming
meetings and topics.
Bosak stated that all of the pre-made meetings in boxes have been taken, but
more can always be made. Spivey asked about the results of the meetings, and
Bosak stated that results will be reported after the February 28 deadline.
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HOUSING
Pierson introduced the housing chapter. Windsor stated that the idea of tiny
homes on wheels as discussed in 1.1.g has historically been nixed by the
Planning Commission. Bosak stated that the Plan is for the next 15 years.
Pohlman asked for language to be included to state that tiny homes on wheels
would be properly secured to the ground and other safety concerns would be
adequately addressed. Hughey clarified that these concerns are primarily
under the purview of the Building Official/Fire Marshal. Bosak stated that
building codes are always evolving, like our zoning code. Bosak stated that we
can work toward this action. Pohlman suggested changing language to state
that tiny homes on wheels would be developed to meet codes. Spivey stated
that we should encourage tiny homes on foundations. Hughey stated that we
should have both options. Bosak asked the commission to determine if they
wish to move toward tiny homes by 2030 or not. Hughey stated that he is in
support of tiny homes on wheels. Parmelee stated that Anchorage requires
anchor cables on mobile homes, and perhaps those could be used on tiny
homes on wheels. Scarcelli stated that he spoke with the Building Official, and
if this action item were to move forward, safety concerns would be addressed.
Scarcelli asked if the commission had any prime locations in mind. Pohlman
stated that mobile home areas are one area, but not the only location. Bosak
asked for consensus. Spivey and Windsor stated that they’re against tiny
homes on wheels. Pohlman stated concern with language that mobile home
parks are in prime locations, and stated that people should be able to live on
the waterfront even if they’re not millionaires.
In regard to 1.1.h, Windsor asked if those housing types would be available in
R-1. Bosak stated that the commission isn’t locking themselves into specific
zones, but just approving the concept..
Pohlman asked for clarification on 1.1.f. Bosak stated that there are 2 float
home options at ANB Harbor, and there are strict standards concerning roof
pitch and other design guidelines. Bosak stated that some of the aesthetic
standards could be relaxed to encourage development.
In regard to 1.1.i, Parmelee asked about density bonuses. Bosak stated that a
density bonus would allow more units at a higher density in exchange for such
features as an open space area.
Parmelee stated that it would behoove the commission to look into financing
options for various affordable housing types. Bosak stated that there are items
under Objective 3 to make housing information available to the public. Spivey
stated that as long as it’s on a foundation and meets building codes, a home
can be financed through regular financing through a bank.
Clyde Bright stated that city code requires that permanent homes have wheels
removed and are tied down. Bright stated that the city has an RV park, and
wheels aren’t removed and vehicles not tied down. Bright stated that shipping
container walls exceed requirements for residential structure walls, and people
are currently living in shipping containers now. Bright stated that we need to
remain open to what the future will hold.
Matthew Jackson stated that he believes a lot of problems pointed out under
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Objective 1 are a result of overregulation. Jackson stated that increasing codes
will continue to throw up roadblocks. Jackson recommended an exemption for
owner-occupied structures under 2500 square feet.
Steven Eisenbeisz drew attention to Objective 3, and questioned if any of those
items are the city’s job. Eisenbeisz stated that other entities are already
meeting these needs. Eisenbeisz stated that following through with the items
under Objective 3 would increase the cost of city government.
Pat Alexander stated agreement with Eisenbeisz. Alexander stated that the
wording indicates the items that the commission likes and those that it doesn’t
like, such as “encourage” versus “allow.” Alexander acknowledges that work
on this plan is hard work.
Ben Timby stated that he is a local business owner and is in need of affordable
housing. Timby is very interested in tiny homes, and stated that a lot of people
interested in tiny homes would prefer bank loans or family loans instead of a
mortgage. Timby stated that it is cheaper to transport a structure on wheels to
Sitka. Timby stated that deregulation would be the quickest way to solve the
affordable housing issue.
Clyde Bright asked if there are any yurts in Sitka. Bosak stated yes, and it’s
legal because it’s on a foundation. Bright stated that Abraham Lincoln lived in
a log cabin with a dirt floor. Bright stated that we don’t want to overthink
things.
Anne Pollnow encouraged the commission to remember that this is a
long-term plan. Pollnow stated that lending guidelines may change. Pollnow
spoke in favor of disseminating housing information.
Hughey stated that action items under 1.1 are in favor of reducing regulations,
and we just want things to be done safely.
Spivey stated that the commission is not in charge of building code.
Windsor/Hughey moved to submit the housing goals, objectives and action
steps to the draft stage.
Motion PASSED 5-0.
ECONOMICS
Bosak gave an overview of the economic goals, actions, and objectives.
Pohlman had a question about 1.5 and its language of meeting the lowest level
of the area’s parking requirements. Bosak stated that this is specific to
downtown, and the best use of space downtown is shops, placemaking, and
walkable spaces. Spivey stated that he is struggling with this item and general
parking issues downtown. Bosak stated that the transportation chapter will
address parking use and parking counts. Scarcelli stated that planning
research has shown that parking doesn’t encourage affordable housing or
economic development. Spivey stated that he thinks the item is redundant
because downtown is already developed at its current level of parking. Bosak
stated that input that she has received is generally in favor of reducing parking
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requirements.
Parmelee stated that 1.1 should be amended to not only maintain walkable
routes for visitors but also locals. Parmelee suggested looking at off-site
parking options.
Bosak worked with commissioners to reword 1.5. Pohlman stated that 1.1 and
1.5 could be merged. Windsor asked that edits not be made until the
commission hears from the public.
In regard to 4.1, Parmelee would like to see additional space availability for
food carts. Scarcelli stated that East Lansing, MI designated a park space for
food carts and a farmer’s market. A community in California shut-down a main
street on Thursday nights for food carts. Sheinberg stated that the municipality
can offer vendor permits. Spivey stated that previous commenters have
expressed concern for impacts to permanent restaurants that pay property tax.
Windsor stated that Sheldon Jackson Campus would be a good place for food
carts.
Spivey stated that he would like to see an emphasis on developing a third
strong industry to supplement our current industries. Bosak stated that some
action items address attracting businesses.
Knox asked for elaboration on “maintain healthy harbors” under Objective 6.
Bosak stated that the Port and Harbors Commission would be doing a meeting
in a box, and hopefully they can suggest specific action items.
Pohlman stated that we should address value-added and value-subtracted
when making decisions.
Anne Pollnow asked clarification on iconic features. Bosak stated that these
could include statues or the “Welcome to Sitka” sign. Pollnow suggested that
these could also be historic properties. Pollnow stated that historic properties
and cultural resources are missing from these objectives. Pollnow stated that
historic preservation has economic benefits: rehabilitation jobs,
manufacturing, retail, tax revenue, investment leveraging, public funds, tax
credits, 20% federal tax credit, property values increase, heritage tourism,
attracting investment. Hughey and Bosak asked for Pollnow’s recommendation
for improving the current wording of the item under Arts, Culture, and History.
Pollnow stated that we should acknowledge historic preservation as an
economic driver. Bosak asked Pollnow if they can work together on language.
Pohlman stated that historic preservation could be listed under Objective 1.
Scarcelli stated that 60% of money spent on historic preservation stays in the
community.
Garry White represented SEDA. White stated that the community's money is
inevitably going to leak out, and we should include a statement to attract
outside money. White stated that the infrastructure section should be
expanded. White stated appreciation for inclusion of assisted living. White
stated that we should not place excessive requirements on businesses.
Charles Bingham stated that three historic district projects were not adopted,
but could contribute to downtown vibrancy. Bingham stated that overparking
is an issue nationwide. Bingham suggested pop up shops around Crescent
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Harbor. Bingham stated that he would like to see hospitals included as basic
infrastructure.
Attendee stated disappointment that a parking garage was not included on the
ground level of the new hotel. She stated that difficulty parking would
discourage her from coming downtown.
Pat Alexander stated that a seawalk is planned to extend down Katlian Avenue.
Alexander stated that many historic events have happened on Katlian Avenue,
and signage should be included on the seawalk. Alexander stated that tourists
want more public restrooms and benches. Alexander stated that vacation
packages could be bundled and presold to tourists. Alexander stated that STA
eventually wants to have all of their staff in one building, so they will
eventually need to expand. Alexander stated that transportation is vital to
economic growth and tourism, so the city should get into the transportation
business.
Steven Eisenbeisz stated that customer and employee parking need to be
differentiated. Eisenbeisz agrees with the emphasis on historic preservation. In
regard to 1.3, Eisenbeisz stated that we shouldn’t place the burden on
business owners. Eisenbeisz stated that overregulation is not friendly to
businesses.
Scott Saline spoke to 2.4 and reference to LEED. Saline stated that Sitka
wouldn’t have needed a dam if they had pumped heat from the ocean.
Language should state electric resistive. Saline stated that he had to buy 4
parking spaces for his business, but another restaurant increased their seating
capacity and they can just use the ANB parking lot.
Clyde Bright stated that the charter fishing industry should be emphasized.
Bright stated that 45% of tourist dollars come from charter fishing. Bright
stated that there is limited hotel space in town, and hotel rooms are expensive.
Ben Timby stated that he’s not sure what the concern is with tourist traffic, as
there are only a limited number of car rentals in town. Timby stated that no
buses currently run to the airport, and perhaps this could alleviate the number
of car rentals. Timby suggested an electric trolley running along the primary
streets. Hughey stated that bus routes to the airport would help parking
downtown. Windsor stated that a lot of people park at Seward Square to walk
to the Westmark. Timby stated that he would like to see competitive moorage,
and stated that some people find it more viable to go to Wrangell in the
off-season.
Windsor stated that Bright raised an important point about charter fishing.
Bosak pointed to an action step under Objective 6.
Pohlman/Hughey moved to submit the economic goals, objectives and action
steps to the draft stage.
Motion PASSED 5-0.
LAND USE
Scarcelli explained the public process thus far that has resulted in this draft.
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Scarcelli introduced the land use goals, objectives, and actions. The triple
bottom line is vital for planning.
Spivey stated that he does not feel comfortable moving this forward until
hazard mapping is available. Bosak stated that mapping will not be available
for another year, but the commission will soon see a critical areas ordinance.
Scarcelli stated that this chapter does not give specific guidance on location,
and this is a draft. Spivey stated that he would like to have all the information
before making a decision. Bosak stated that the critical areas ordinance will
determine where development will be allowed and what additional steps will be
required of developers. Bosak stated that they are co-aligned, but the land use
plan does not fully rely on the hazard mapping. Knox stated that he would be
concerned if the Assembly received a Comprehensive Plan without a land use
chapter. Bosak reminded commissioners that landslide risk is not the
community’s only risk. Spivey would like to see the new flood maps
co-aligned. Scarcelli pointed to 8.14. Pohlman requested that this item be
moved toward the top of the list.
Windsor asked about 2.1.e. Scarcelli stated that although several
neighborhoods contribute to the downtown area, these separate areas have
their own unique character. Scarcelli stated that many communities have
Comprehensive Plans and also Master Plans for individual areas. Sheinberg
stated that the future growth chapter will describe intended future growth for
specific areas such as No Name Mountain. Sheinberg stated that these actions
plant the seeds for future planning.
Charles Bingham stated that he appreciates the inclusion of agricultural zones,
and perhaps agriculture should be included in the economics chapter.
Bingham encouraged the inclusion of complete streets policy in 8.10. Bingham
raised concern for plowing and de-icing bike lanes and sidewalks.
Pat Alexander stated that heavy rain causes toilets to back up in ANB Hall
because of drainage issues on Back Street. Alexander stated that runoff will
impact residential and commercial development. Alexander said that a FEMA
representative told her that the runoff is a city issue. Alexander stated that
culture is tucked into a cultural section, but culture runs throughout
everything. Alexander stated that there is valuable information in previous
plans.
Chandler O’Connell thanked the commission, staff, and the consultant for their
work on the plan. In regard to 1.c, O’Connell would place the North Indian River
area as a low priority for city acquisition because other locations could more
easily meet the goals of affordable housing, and because the public should
have a conversation before North Indian River is developed. O’Connell
suggested strengthening “recognizes the natural environment” in the goal
statement.
Eisenbeisz asked if 4.5 would prevent him from developing his property. In
regard to 7.1, Eisenbeisz stated that LIDs are not necessarily compatible with
affordable housing.
Matthew Jackson thanked the commission and staff, and is concerned that
some items under Objectives 7 and 8 are not under the purview of the Planning
Commission, and others may not be specific enough to be actionable. Jackson
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stated that we should build in results and public engagement. Hughey asked
for clarification. Jackson stated that when members of the public discuss tiny
homes on wheels, they are told that the decision depends on building code
and is beyond the Planning Commission.
Clyde Bright stated that the Central Business District should be expanded to
Lakeside and Sheldon Jackson. Bright stated that parking is hard to find in the
summer. Sheinberg stated that the future growth activity that was planned was
intended to determine future areas for commercial expansion, and this activity
will be rescheduled.
Hughey stated that the biggest chunk of undeveloped land is Baranof
Elementary, and perhaps additional downtown land could be opened up by
building a new school elsewhere.
Windsor/Parmelee moved to submit the land use goals, objectives and action
steps to the draft stage.
Motion PASSED 5-0.
VI. PLANNING DIRECTOR’S REPORT
Bosak reported on the recent floodplain meeting and stated that there have
been changes specifically in the Lake Street area. Short-term rentals on boats
will be considered by Port and Harbors Commission tomorrow. Bosak asked
for a representative for a float home ad hoc meeting Friday at noon, as code
requires a Planning Commission member to participate. Parmelee volunteered.
Bosak is facilitating Meetings in a Box at Port and Harbors and Pierson is
facilitating Meetings in a Box at Historic Preservation Commission.
VII. PUBLIC BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR
Pollnow stated that this plan progress is encouraging.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Chair Spivey ADJOURNED the meeting at 9:56 PM.
ATTEST: ______________________________
Samantha Pierson, Planner I
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Agenda
CITY AND BOROUGH OF SITKA
Meeting Agenda
Planning Commission
Chris Spivey, Chair
Darrell Windsor, Vice Chair
Debra Pohlman
Randy Hughey
Richard Parmelee
Tuesday, February 7, 2017 7:00 PM Harrigan Centennial Hall
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
II. CONSIDERATION OF THE AGENDA
III. CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES
A PM-18 Approval of the January 17, 2017 meeting minutes.
Attachments: 1.17.17 draft
IV. REPORTS
B 16-00 Planning Regulations and Procedures.
Attachments: Planning Regulations and Procedures
V. THE EVENING BUSINESS
C MISC 17-04 Discussion and direction of the land use, housing, and economic
sections of the Comprehensive Plan.
Attachments: Housing Goals Objectives Actions 2.1.17
Economic Goals Objectives Actions 2.3.17
Land Use Goals Objectives Actions 2.3.17
Draft Housing Chapter 1.30.17
Draft Economics Chapter 1.19.17
Draft Land Use Chapter 2.1.17
4 overlay zones
Price Street Discussion
VI. PLANNING DIRECTOR’S REPORT
VII. PUBLIC BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR
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VIII. ADJOURNMENT
NOTE: More information on these agenda items can be found at
https://sitka.legistar.com/Calendar.aspx or by contacting the Planning Office at 100
Lincoln Street. Individuals having concerns or comments on any item are encouraged
to provide written comments to the Planning Office or make comments at the Planning
Commission meeting. Written comments may be dropped off at the Planning Office in
City Hall, emailed to planning@cityofsitka.org, or faxed to (907) 747-6138. Those with
questions may call (907) 747-1814.
Publish: January 30 and February 1
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