Olde Towne Preservation District Commission
Regular MeetingSlidell, LA · August 9, 2023
Agenda
City of Slidell, Louisiana
Olde Towne Preservation District Commission
Agenda
August 9, 2023 at 5:00pm
Council Chambers, 2045 2nd St, Slidell, LA
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1. Call to Order and Roll Call
2. Minutes. Review and approve minutes from July 12, 2023
3. Public Hearings
a. CA23-16: A request for a Certificate of Appropriateness for alteration to a single-family home
(non-historic structure) at 2728 Carey Street.
b. CA23-26: A request for a Certificate of Appropriateness for demolition and alteration
(contributing structure) to a single-family home at 207 Teddy Avenue.
c. CA23-27: A request for a Certificate of Appropriateness for alteration (individually listed) to a
single-family home at 213 Cleveland Avenue.
d. CA23-28: A request for a Certificate of Appropriateness for mural on an exterior wall at 2001 First
Street.
4. Other Business
a. Presentation by Rod Scott from Camp Resilience, a historic preservation training program
5. General and Public Comments
6. Adjournment
The next Olde Towne Preservation District Commission meeting will be September 13, 2023.
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City of Slidell, Louisiana
Olde Towne Preservation District Commission
Minutes
July 12, 2023 at 5:00 pm
City of Slidell Planning Department Conference Room-250 Bouscaren St. Suite 203, Slidell, LA
1. Call to Order and Roll Call. Meeting called to order by Chairperson Darby at 5:00 p.m.
Commissioners Present Commissioners Not Present Staff Present
Darren Darby, Chair Danny McElmurray, Planning Director
Jason Clayton Theresa Alexander, Planner
Michelle Cramer
2. Minutes. Motion by Commissioner Cramer to approve minutes of June 14, 2023 as written;
Chairperson Darby seconded. A vote of 3 YAYS, 0 NAYS, 0 ABSTAIN approved the minutes.
3. Action Items
a. Design Exception (V23-05): A request for review and approval of unique design exception as
referenced in Section 3.6 of Appendix B, Part 3 – Design Standards.
Introduced by Chairperson Darby. Director McElmurray addressed the Commission and explained
the applicant’s desire for a taller fence on the property, as well as answered questions by the
Commission. Elwin Ordoyne of ECO Builders also addressed the Commission and answered
questions. Commissioner Cramer made a motion to approve as submitted with the addition of
brick columns at the front gate, brick pavers for sidewalk, and brick pavers for the stairs.
Commissioner Clayton seconded. A vote of 3 YAYS, 0 NAYS, 0 ABSTAIN approved V23-05.
b. Addition of 2804 Carey Street to the district listing as a contributing structure.
Introduced by Director McElmurray. Work is being done to restore to original condition, and the
owners would like the home to be listed as a contributing structure. After discussion between
Director McElmurray, Theresa Alexander and the Commission regarding the need for a complete
update of the district survey data, it was decided that this motion would be postponed until
improvements have been permitted and completed; a blanket inclusion of all properties which
have undergone vinyl siding removal and other qualifying work would be more appropriate than
piecemeal additions.
c. Demolition of 2621 Sgt Alfred Dr.
Introduced by Director McElmurray. The house was originally condemned by the City. The owners
had asked to renovate and restore instead. They determined the cost to restore was too high
given the condition of the structure and will be demolishing it after all at their own cost. After
brief discussion between Director McElmurray and the Commission, Commissioner Clayton made
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a motion to approve, seconded by Commissioner Cramer. A vote of 3 YAYS, 0 NAYS, 0 ABSTAIN
approved the request to demolish 2621 Sgt. Alfred Dr.
4. Other Business
a. None
5. Informational Items
a. Director McElmurray spoke with the Commission about continuing education and ways to
educate residents and business owners of Olde Towne about their responsibilities as property
owners.
7. Adjournment. Meeting adjourned at 6:06 p.m. on motion by Commissioner Clayton, seconded by
Chairperson Darby, and a vote of 3 YAYS, 0 NAYS, 0 ABSTAIN.
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Staff Report
Case No. CA23-16
Certificate of Appropriateness
Planning Department for Enclosing Elevated Portion of 2728 Carey St
985.646.4320 | 250 Bouscaren St, Ste 203, Slidell, LA 70458 | planningdept@cityofslidell.org | myslidell.com
Location: 2728 Carey St (Figure 1)
Historic Status: Not an historic or contributing
structure
Owner/Applicant: Tony Goutierrez
Zoning: A-6 Single-Family Urban/OTPD Olde
Towne Preservation District
Request: Certificate of Appropriateness for a
Enclosing Elevated Portion of Home (see
Findings for complete details)
OTPDC Meeting: 8/9/2023
STAFF RECOMMENDATION
Approval
SCOPE OF WORK
Figure 1. Location map
1. 2728 Carey St is developed with a non-historic
elevated single-family home (Figure 2).
2. The applicant proposes to enclose the elevated portion of the home along the front and side
elevations, leaving the rear open to the yard. (Figure 3).
3. The proposed enclosure will be constructed using vinyl siding to match the existing front elevations
(Clay Gray), along with two garage doors along each side of the front elevation (Standard White); vinyl
single-hung windows (Ultra White Trim) and T1-11 panels painted to match the existing vinyl siding
color (Clay Gray) along both side elevations.
In addition to the current review, applicant is seeking approval of items that have been completed
prior to Commission review: Windows, Shudders, Primary Entrance, Vinyl Siding. (Figure 4)
4. The proposed exterior alterations provide a common design with other historic or contributing homes
in the area. (Figure 5)
5. This property is surrounded by both individual and contributing historic properties (Figure 6).
STANDARDS FOR REVIEW
6. This request is for exterior alteration for enclosure of the elevated portion of the home along the front
and side elevations. The general design guidelines of Sec. 2-2217 Design guidelines for Olde Towne
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and Fremaux Corridor of Appendix A Zoning of the City of Slidell Code of Ordinances apply to these
alterations. The following factors are considered in this request for a Certificate of Appropriateness:
a. Enclosure Walls. Materials proposed for the exterior walls for the areas enclosed continue the
architectural design of the existing home and are compatible with design standards.
b. Compatibility with the environment. Buildings shall exhibit the ability to provide protection from
rain, sun, and high humidity. The proposed alterations are compatible with surrounding
contributing and individually historic structures. The proposed alterations are compatible with
the appearance, color, texture, materials, and architectural design standards.
c. Materials. The exterior walls are proposed to be vinyl siding along the front elevation, matching
the existing upper level of the home, and T1-11 siding for the side elevations. Both side elevations
also include two vinyl single-hung windows with white trim. The alterations have historic context
and are appropriate.
FINDINGS
7. The proposed alterations are consistent with the design guidelines and applicable standards of the
Olde Towne Preservation District.
FIGURES
Figure 2. 2768 Carey Street (2023)
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Figure 3. Floor Plan for Lower Level
Figure 4. Construction Materials and Color
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Figure 5. Proposed Exterior Elevations
Figure 6. Neighboring Historic Homes
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Staff Report
Case No. CA28-26
Certificate of Appropriateness
Planning Department for Repair of Existing Porch at 207 Teddy Ave
985.646.4320 | 250 Bouscaren St, Ste 203, Slidell, LA 70458 | planningdept@cityofslidell.org | myslidell.com
Location: 207 Teddy Ave (Figure 1)
Historic Status: Contributing historic structure
within the OTPD (LHRI No. 52-00031)
Owner/Applicant: Kismine Byrnes-Helmke
Zoning: A-6 Single-Family Urban/OTPD Olde
Towne Preservation District
Request: Certificate of Appropriateness for a
Repair of the existing porch (see Findings for
complete details)
OTPDC Meeting: 8/9/2023
STAFF RECOMMENDATION
Approval with Modifications to Application
Figure 1. Location map
SCOPE OF WORK
1. 207 Teddy Ave is developed with a single-family residence (Figure 2) and is a contributing structure to
the Olde Towne Preservation District, as well as the Teddy Ave Historical District.
2. The structure was built in circa 1890 as a single-family dwelling with architectural significance
identified as the Queen Anne style (LHRI Survey 1999).
3. The applicant proposes to repair water damage to the front porch (Figure 3) modifying the colors and
some design elements.
4 The repairs include repairing the rotted wood columns, flooring, and replacement of the quarter-wall
railing.
4. Elements proposed by the applicant for this repair are (Figure 4):
• Columns will be square marine grade wood columns without the cap at top of each column.
• The current one-quarter wall will be replaced by railings, which the applicant has not yet
determined the exact style.
• Floor of the porch will be constructed of treated lumber.
• Colors proposed for the improvements are Dutch Tile Blue (SW 0031) and Ultra White (Valspar
7006-24). The color proposed for the porch flooring is Web Gray (SW 7075).
5. This property contributes to the overall historical aspect of the Preservation District and compliments
other historically contributing homes along Teddy Ave. (Figure 5)
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STANDARDS FOR REVIEW
6. This request is for exterior alteration for repair of the front porch of the home along the front and
side elevations. (Figure 2). The authorizing legislation in Article IV. Division 4. Section 2-266.(r)
Treatment of a historic resource and the general design guidelines of Sec. 2-2217 Design guidelines
for Olde Towne and Fremaux Corridor of Appendix A Zoning of the City of Slidell Code of Ordinances
apply to these alterations.
The following factors are considered in this request for a Certificate of Appropriateness:
a. A property shall be used as it was historically or be given a new use that requires minimal change
to its distinctive materials, features, spaces, and spatial relationships.
b. The historic character of a property shall be retained and preserved. The removal of distinctive
materials or alteration of features, spaces, and spatial relationships that characterize a property
shall be avoided.
c. Each property shall be recognized as a physical record of its time, place, and use. Changes that
create a false sense of historical development, such as adding contextual features or elements
from other historic properties, shall not be undertaken.
d. Changes to a property that have acquired historic significance in their own right shall be retained
and preserved.
e. Distinctive materials, features, finishes, and construction techniques or examples of
craftsmanship that characterize a property shall be preserved.
f. Deteriorated historic features will be repaired rather than replaced. Where the severity of
deterioration requires replacement of a distinctive feature, the new feature will match the old in
design, color, texture, and, where possible, materials. Replacement of missing features shall be
substantiated by documentary and physical evidence.
g. Chemical or physical treatments, if appropriate, shall be undertaken using the gentlest means
possible. Treatments that cause damage to historic materials will not be used.
h. Archeological resources will be protected and preserved in place. If such resources must be
disturbed, mitigation measures shall be undertaken.
i. New additions, exterior alterations, or related new construction will not destroy historic
materials, features, and spatial relationships that characterize the property. The new work will be
differentiated from the old and shall be compatible with the historic materials, features, size, scale
and proportion, and massing to protect the integrity of the property and its environment.
j. New additions and adjacent or related new construction shall be undertaken in such a manner
that, if removed in the future, the essential form and integrity of the historic property and its
environment would be unimpaired.
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FINDINGS
8. Porch columns: The proposed alterations are compatible with retaining the existing structure’s
environmental protection characteristics and safety standards. Replacement columns should match
existing original columns in form (square) and with simplified moulding cap. Simple base plate
moulding is characteristic of similar conditions in the Teddy Avenue district and elsewhere in the
Preservation District; use of a simple base moulding is recommended or no moulding may be suitable
depending on best weatherproofing practices.
9. Porch Railing: Based on a visual survey of Teddy Avenue, if there is a railing and it isn’t a quarter-wall,
porch railings are typically a simple handrail with unadorned balusters. Assuming the porch is over
18”, a railing will have to be installed to comply with insurance requirements. Without historic
photographs or drawings showing the propose structured railing with a crossing x patterning,
recommend approval of a simplified porch railing with handrail and code compliant balusters. Taking
into consideration the replacement of the stair handrails between 2016 and 2018, and although it is
slightly more ornamental than similar counterparts on Teddy Avenue, recommend installation of
either a simple metal railing or a similar wood style as the stair handrail for continuity. Height is to be
compatible with current code safety requirements.
10. Porch deck: Treated lumber is an appropriate material
11. Paint Colors:
• Body: Dutch Tile Blue (SW 0031) – recommend approval
• Trim: Ultra White (Valspar 7006-24) – recommend approval
• Porch flooring: Web Gray (SW 7075) – recommend approval
FIGURES
Figure 2. 207 Teddy Ave (2023)
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Figure 3. Repair of rotted wood at front porch
Figure 4. Repair Materials and Proposed Railing
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Figure 5. Neighboring Historic Contributing Structures
439 Teddy Ave - Individually
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453 Teddy Ave - Individually
534 Teddy Ave - Contributing
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Staff Report
Case No. CA23-27
Certificate of Appropriateness
Planning Department for Installation of Replacement Windows at 213 Cleveland Ave
985.646.4320 | 250 Bouscaren St, Ste 203, Slidell, LA 70458 | planningdept@cityofslidell.org | myslidell.com
Location: 213 Cleveland Ave
(Figure 1)
Historic Status: Individually
historic structure within a
National Register district (LHRI
No. 52-00225)
Owner/Applicant: Eugene and
Deborah Tatro
Zoning: A-6 Single-Family
Urban/OTPD Olde Towne
Preservation District
Request: Certificate of
Appropriateness for a
Installation of Replacement
Windows (see Findings for
complete details)
Figure 1. Location map
OTPDC Meeting: 8/9/2023
STAFF RECOMMENDATION
Approval
SCOPE OF WORK
1. 213 Cleveland Ave is developed with a single-family residence (Figure 2); is individually historic on the
National Historic Register; and part of the Olde Towne Preservation District.
2. The structure was built in circa 1890 as a single-family dwelling with architectural significance
identified as the Queen Anne Bungalow (LHRI Survey 1999), and individually historic for being the
home of Albert Salmen, a principal partner in the Salmen Brothers Brick and Lumber Company.
3. This request is for exterior alteration for installing replacement windows along the side and rear of
the home. (Figure 2). The applicant proposes to replace 3 windows along the right side of the home
at the rear, and 4 windows on the rear, being the historic porch that was enclosed around 1955 (Figure
3).
4. The replacement windows will be installed in the same locations of the existing windows and are
double-hung white vinyl frame windows with external grids installed to give the appearance of
windows located on other exterior walls. (Figure 4)
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5. Elements proposed by the applicant for this alteration are:
• Seven (7) double-hung windows – white vinyl, with simulated divided lites (2/2) each window.
6. This property contributes to the overall historical aspect of the Preservation District and compliments
other historically contributing homes along adjacent streets (Figure 5).
STANDARDS FOR REVIEW
7. The authorizing legislation in Article IV. Division 4. Section 2-266.(r) Treatment of a historic resource
and the general design guidelines of Sec. 2-2217 Design guidelines for Olde Towne and Fremaux
Corridor of Appendix A Zoning of the City of Slidell Code of Ordinances apply to these alterations.
The following factors are considered in this request for a Certificate of Appropriateness:
a. A property shall be used as it was historically or be given a new use that requires minimal change
to its distinctive materials, features, spaces, and spatial relationships.
b. The historic character of a property shall be retained and preserved. The removal of distinctive
materials or alteration of features, spaces, and spatial relationships that characterize a property
shall be avoided.
c. Each property shall be recognized as a physical record of its time, place, and use. Changes that
create a false sense of historical development, such as adding contextual features or elements
from other historic properties, shall not be undertaken.
d. Changes to a property that have acquired historic significance in their own right shall be retained
and preserved.
e. Distinctive materials, features, finishes, and construction techniques or examples of
craftsmanship that characterize a property shall be preserved.
f. Deteriorated historic features will be repaired rather than replaced. Where the severity of
deterioration requires replacement of a distinctive feature, the new feature will match the old in
design, color, texture, and, where possible, materials. Replacement of missing features shall be
substantiated by documentary and physical evidence.
g. Chemical or physical treatments, if appropriate, shall be undertaken using the gentlest means
possible. Treatments that cause damage to historic materials will not be used.
h. Archeological resources will be protected and preserved in place. If such resources must be
disturbed, mitigation measures shall be undertaken.
i. New additions, exterior alterations, or related new construction will not destroy historic
materials, features, and spatial relationships that characterize the property. The new work will be
differentiated from the old and shall be compatible with the historic materials, features, size, scale
and proportion, and massing to protect the integrity of the property and its environment.
j. New additions and adjacent or related new construction shall be undertaken in such a manner
that, if removed in the future, the essential form and integrity of the historic property and its
environment would be unimpaired.
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FINDINGS
8. Replacement Windows: The proposed alterations are compatible with retaining the existing
structure’s environmental protection characteristics and safety standards. Replacement windows will
match existing windows in form (two over two divided lite extended rectangles) and the addition of
the exterior grids and simulated dividers will provide continuity of design of the existing windows.
9. The replacement windows with the simulated lites are consistent with the applicable standards of the
Olde Towne Preservation District.
FIGURES
Figure 2: Street View (2022)
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Figure 3: Existing Conditions
Figure 4: Sample 2/2 Double-hung Vinyl Window
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Figure 5: Neighboring Historic Structures
127 Cleveland Ave – National Register of Historic Places, circa 1900, Fritz Salmen House (Patton’s)
2589 College St, circa 1900
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2588 College St, circa 1897
309 Cleveland Ave, circa 1889
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2622 College St, circa 1893 (same windows)
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