Board of Historic & Architectural Review
Regular MeetingSmithfield, VA · March 15, 2022
Minutes
The Smithfield Board of Historic and Architectural Review held its regular meeting on
Tuesday, March 15th, 2022 at the Smithfield Center. The meeting was called to order at 6:30 p.m.
Members present:
Trey Gwaltney – Chairman
Gary Hess
Judith Lally
Laura Brown
Russell Hill
Justin Hornback
Members absent:
Julia Hillegass – Vice Chair
Staff present:
William H. Riddick, III – Town Attorney
Tammie Clary – Community Development & Planning Director
Nadya Jaudzimas – Administrative Assistant
Press: none
Citizens: 11
Chairman Gwaltney welcomed everyone to the meeting.
Community Development & Planning Director’s Report:
Tammie Clary, Community Development and Planning Director, reported that 1400 South
Church Street had been demolished and the owners had been sent an invoice. She added that a
group picture was scheduled to be taken at the conclusion of the meeting but rescheduled for next
month as Vice Chair Hillegass was absent.
Upcoming Meetings and Activities:
Tuesday March 15th, 7:30 PM – Board of Zoning Appeals Meeting
Monday, March 28th, 3:00 PM – Town Council Committee Meetings
Tuesday, April 5th, 6:30 PM – Town Council Meeting
Thursday, April 14, 6:30 PM – Planning Commission Meeting
Tuesday, April 19th, 6:30 PM – Board of Historic & Architectural Review Meeting
Public Comments:
Bob Hines of 216 Washington Street in Smithfield stated that he was unsure how much the
Board was involved in what he would like to speak about. He reported that he had been researching
online and found the Historic Preservation Overlay inventory. He continued that he did not know
if the list was current, but he found 502 Grace Street included as a landmark property. He stated
that this was the old Pierceville place and inquired whether or not this designation would change
considering the planning for the property. Mr. Hines discussed the proposed draft of the
Comprehensive Plan, stating that he was confused about the inclusion of the New Downtown
Mixed-Use and the New Downtown Mixed Commercial zoning designations. He added that they
are next to Historic Mixed-Use but they are all in the Historic District. He continued that the plan
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goes on to describe the properties that will have commercial uses, but in the 2009 Comprehensive
Plan these areas are included in the Future Land Use Map as recreational.
The Town Attorney addressed Mr. Hines, stating that the members of the Board did not
have anything to do with the Comprehensive Plan and likely did not have any idea what he was
referring to.
Mr. Hines stated that he suspected that they do as they probably read the paper.
Mr. Riddick told Mr. Hines that he was going into detail about issues that have not been in
front of the Board and they have not reviewed.
Mr. Hines stated he understood but pointed out that they are citizens.
Mr. Riddick stated that is fine.
Mr. Hines reported that he had spoken about this issue in front of the Town Council and
the Planning Commission meetings. He added that the group of citizens concerned about this are
not trying to stop development, they would just like it to be sensible. He reported that part of the
proposal included the allowance of 60 ft high buildings along with access to the development from
Grace and Cary Streets. He added that this does not seem to be a good thing and asked if the Board
would allow those two inclusions. He reminded the Board that they are citizens of the town and in
the responsible positions they are in, they might have some input. He thanked the Board.
Chairman Gwaltney stated that there were no other sign-ups for comments and closed the
public comment section.
Board Member Comments:
Mr. Hill apologized to the other Board members for not being present at meetings for the
last several months. He reported that he would be present from this time forward.
Chairman Gwaltney stated that the Board understood and told Mr. Hill he was a valued
member.
Handrails – 309 South Church Street – Landmark – Florine Moore, applicant.
Mrs. Clary reported that the applicant is seeking approval to erect additional wrought iron
handrails on the front right-side corner of the house. There would be a total of twenty-three feet,
three inches (23’3”) of new handrails added to the existing porch. An eight-foot, nine-inch (8’9”)
section of railing will be attached to the house and the existing column. A three-foot, six-inch
(3’6”) section will be attached to the existing column and anchored in the porch near the brick
steps. A three-foot, nine-inch (3’9”) section of handrail coming down the brick stairs will be
welded to the three-foot, six-inch (3’6”) section continuing to ground level and anchoring into the
existing concrete walkway. The handrails will be painted white to match the color of the trim on
the house. The applicant has stated that she is requesting the handrails for safety concerns as the
porch is elevated approximately three feet from the concrete walkway.
She stated that town staff recommend approval from a zoning standpoint and defer to the
BHAR for architectural discretion.
Florine Moore of 309 South Church Street in Smithfield was present to speak about the
application and reported that she was requesting the additional handrails as a safety feature after
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having herself fallen from the porch. She stated that there would be rails on both sides and they
would look alike. She welcomed the Board members to come to her home to see it in person.
Mrs. Lally made the motion to approve the application as presented. Mr. Hess seconded
the motion. Chairman Gwaltney called for a collective vote, all members were in favor, with no
one opposed. The motion passed.
Accessory Structure (Temporary Carport) – 318 Main Street – Contributing – Gary and
Minette Brooks, applicants.
Mrs. Clary reported that the applicant is seeking approval to erect a twenty-foot (20’) by
thirty-foot (30’), 600 square foot, open-sided, carport structure in the rear yard. The proposed
location of the carport structure is to the right of the existing sixteen-foot (16’) by twenty-foot
(20’) garage. The carport structure will be constructed with metal posts that will be spaced three-
foot (3’) on center and feature a blue, 29 gauge metal roof. The carport structure is rated to
withstand winds in excess of 120 miles per hour. The applicant has stated that the structure will
not be visible from the road and is able to be disassembled and moved easily. The proposed purpose
of the carport structure is to store several vehicles out of the weather elements.
She stated that town staff recommend approval from a zoning standpoint and defer to the
BHAR for architectural discretion.
Gary Brooks of 318 Main Street in Smithfield was present to speak about the application.
He began by thanking the Board for allowing them to construct their shed last summer. He reported
that the requested structure would allow him to place vehicles that he works on out of the weather.
He added that is built for easy disassembly and reported that this was part of his plan. He corrected
Mrs. Clary’s report that the roof would be blue, stating that it would be slate gray to match the
shed that had been approved. He added that it would be an open-sided structure, so if seen from
the street it would not be obvious.
Mr. Hornback asked when the structure would be disassembled.
Mr. Brooks estimated that this would be within the next 2 – 3 years.
Chairman Gwaltney asked for confirmation of the number of outbuildings currently in the
yard.
Mr. Brooks confirmed that there were two structures currently: the garage that was existing
on the property when purchased and the shed they had been allowed to build last year. He added
that the shed is entirely unnoticeable from the street.
Chairman Gwaltney confirmed that the drawings illustrated that the proposed structure
would go over at least two vehicles currently parked next to the detached garage.
Mr. Brooks stated that this was correct, that there were currently two project vehicles.
Mr. Gwaltney pointed out that on page 49 of the guidelines discusses outbuildings and was
the closest item he could find to address the issue. He read the following from the document:
1. Retain existing historic outbuildings.
2. Design new outbuildings to be compatible with the style of the major buildings on the
site, especially in materials and roof slope.
Chairman Gwaltney stated that he had a difficult time seeing that the proposed structure fit
these guidelines.
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Mr. Brooks stated that it was suggested that it would help if he was to wrap the metal posts
of the structure in treated wood and then painted them. He added that he would be happy to do
this.
Mr. Hornback inquired if there was any more consideration given to matching the house
more closely.
Mr. Brooks stated that there was nothing else he could do to modify the proposed carport
further. He continued that the structure was essentially posts and a roof, and he had designed it to
be unobtrusive. He stated that he had asked for it to be designed to be built on three-foot centers
instead of five foot centers to max out his possible hurricane load.
Chairman Gwaltney asked Mrs. Clary if an open-sided building of this type falls under the
same category as a walled-in structure as far as the regulations it must follow.
Mrs. Clary stated that it would if it has 2,500 square feet of impervious cover that would
trigger Isle of Wight County stormwater review.
Chairman Gwaltney expressed concern about allowing another structure in a yard that
already has two separated buildings.
Mrs. Clary reported that this particular structure would not qualify for review as it was 600
square ft.
Mr. Hess asked to go over a couple of questions he had. First he asked if there were only
two cars in the yard now.
Mr. Brooks stated that he had the two cars, an electric “bad boy” 4w drive cart, and an all-
terrain vehicle (ATV). He added that the cart and ATV would be moved once other items had been
taken out of the existing shed. He reported that he had a recreational vehicle (RV) that sits at the
back of the driveway in front of the garage. He added that the RV was gone for 7 months and was
just brought back two days ago.
Mr. Hess asked for clarification about what he was planning to wrap the structure with.
Mr. Brooks explained that it would be a wood product painted white. He added that it
would be a cased structure and it would be the only thing that would be noticed. Mr. Brooks stated
that he could do more if they wanted to suggest things, but that this is the plan that they had come
up with.
Mr. Hess asked if it would be essentially a pole barn wrapped to give it walls.
Mr. Brooks explained that it would not be the entire structure wrapped, but only the
galvanized metal posts.
Chairman Gwaltney stated that this would negate questions he had about doors on the front
of the structure as there would be no walls. He added that he was having a hard time considering
the application.
Mr. Hess stated that he had asked about the wrapping as he had seen one of his neighbor’s
use synthetic wrapping to conceal their RV from a sideview. He asked Mr. Brooks if this was
something he would consider trying.
Mr. Brooks stated that he was before the Board to try and negotiate a modification that
works within their level of approval.
Chairman Gwaltney stated that he understood Mr. Hess’s question about side wrapping,
but it was a moot point based on one side being at the back of the fence and one side touching the
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garage. He related that he had driven by the property and noted that the two cars are currently
under tarps next to the garage. He added that this tells him that this was where the structure would
be and that people would be able to see it driving down the road or from the driveway. He stated
that this made him question whether it fits within the guidelines.
Mr. Hornback inquired if Mr. Brooks was willing to consider extending the roofline off the
garage to cover the vehicles using a like material to what the garage was constructed with.
Chairman Gwaltney likened it to a lean-to, adding that the roof would be a lower line. He
stated that he wanted to ask about doors because people might look directly up his driveway and
see the cars.
Mr. Brooks stated that if the Board was asking him to enclose the structure, he would be
happy to do that and follow the architectural design or styles the Board would like.
Chairman Gwaltney stated the Board would prefer that if there was a third structure in the
back yard of his home it would be complimentary to the other two buildings and the house itself.
He stated that he felt the proposed carport does not match that.
Mr. Hess agreed and stated that it was hard to visualize walking down the street in
Smithfield surrounded by historical architecture, then looking down someone’s driveway at their
’67 Camaro. He stated that it might be an antique car, but it’s certainly not part of a landmark
property.
Mr. Hill reported that Mr. Brooks had spoken to him about this project before, and even
though it may not be seen from the street, his neighbors would be able to see the cars. He stated
that Mr. Brooks’s neighbors may not have the same sentiment about the cars. He stated that
incorporating what he wants into two buildings to gain what he wants, it may be more
architecturally pleasing.
Chairman Gwaltney stated he could turn the existing garage into a 3-bay garage.
Mr. Hill continued that if he took off the existing “A” frame and made it longer to house
the bay, the structure may be oblong but it would look better than a temporary structure.
Mr. Brooks stated that at the time that they had discussed this option, the feeling that he
got was that this was not feasible. He added that this was why he went with presenting the
temporary structure.
Mr. Hill stated that a permanent modification to the garage would cost more than the metal
structure, but this is what he thought Chairman Gwaltney was suggesting as well. He asked Mr.
Brooks if he was inclined to consider this option.
Mr. Brooks stated that he was happy to go back to the original conversation. He stated that
he had worked with Mrs. Clary to complete a scaled drawing of that modification, but they had
not thought it had a chance to get through the committee. He expressed that if the Board wanted
him to go that route he would rework the drawings and bring them back for consideration.
Chairman Gwaltney stated that the general consensus was that they would prefer to look at
another option other than the metal carport provided. He apologized if there had been a
miscommunication earlier.
Mr. Hill made the motion to table the application until Mr. Brooks returns with a different
plan and a scope of work. Mr. Hornback seconded the motion. Chairman Gwaltney called for a
collective vote, all members were in favor, with no one opposed. The motion passed.
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Chairman Gwaltney asked Mr. Brooks if there were any questions he had or if anything
was unclear.
Mr. Brooks said no and added that he wanted to tell the Board that Mrs. Clary was
outstanding in her work with them. He stated that the decision was his to move away from the
original plan. He added that she gave him very good advice.
Assorted Exterior Changes – 328 Main Street – Contributing – Tracy Gramajo, applicant
Mrs. Clary reported that the applicant is seeking approval for assorted exterior changes.
1) Erect an approximately thirty-foot (30’) long by six-foot (6’) tall wooden fence on the
east side of the property. The fence would match the style and stain of the neighbor’s
fence located at 330 Main Street.
2) Repaint the whole house in one of two color schemes. The current color scheme of the
house is black and white. The first option would be to paint the house primarily a light
blue color known as “Tranquil Vibe” (HGSW3346) with accents of a dark blue color
known as “Dress Blues” (HGSW9176) and a white color known as “White Cotton”
(HGSW4027). The second option would be painting the house primarily in the “Dress
Blues” color with accents of the “Tranquil Vibe” and “White Cotton.” All paint will be
Sherwin Williams. The applicant would like approval for both options as they have not
settled on either option. The applicant has provided visuals of both color schemes in the
enclosed attachments.
3) Erect a ten-foot (10’) by ten-foot (10’) by eight-foot (8’) tall, 100 square feet, shed in
the northwest corner of the rear yard. The shed would be constructed out of wood with
dark gray asphalt shingles to match the shingles on the house. The shed would be painted
to match the house. The applicant has provided a visual in the enclosed attachments.
4) Erect a raised wooden deck in the rear yard. The proposed deck would be eighteen feet
(18’) by twenty-four feet (24’) by twelve feet (12’) tall, 432 square feet. The deck will
also feature a set of wooden stairs with approximately thirty-six inch (36”) tall wooden
railings. The deck would be located just behind the back door of the house. The applicant
has stated that the deck will be stained to match the proposed fence.
5) Replace the bottom three to four rows of wooden siding around the entire house with
matching Hardie plank siding. The Hardie plank would be painted to match the proposed
color of the house.
6) Replace the existing front screen door with a Screen Tight Springview thirty inch (30”)
by eighty inch (80”) white vinyl frame hinged screen door. The applicant has stated that
they would like to go with vinyl for durability reasons. The white vinyl is also UV-
protected, preventing the screen door from fading or discoloration with age.
7) Demolish the existing chimney on the rear of the house. The applicant has stated that
this section of the house was an addition to the original house. There is a chimney in the
front of the house, which is the original one and will remain with the house.
8) Install all new Jeld-Wen branded white vinyl windows and window structures. The
applicant states that using vinyl windows would be best to protect the home from future
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damage and be more energy-efficient. The windows currently installed in the house are
made of wood.
Mrs. Clary stated that the applicant would like approval for one of three options.
a. Option 1: Six over six (6/6) white vinyl windows on the front of the house and
one over one (1/1) white vinyl windows on the rear of the house.
b. Option 2: Four over four (4/4) white vinyl windows on the front of the house
with one over one (1/1) white vinyl windows if the six over-six white vinyl
windows were not in stock.
c. Option 3: The applicant would consider six over six (6/6) aluminum windows for
the front and one over one (1/1) aluminum windows for the rear of the house.
She added that the applicant has stated that aluminum windows are not readily available
which is why this is their third option. The applicant has also stated that it is visually difficult to
tell the difference between vinyl and aluminum windows, the applicant has stated that she would
like the Board to consider the vinyl over the aluminum to protect the structure’s integrity. The
applicant has provided a visual in the enclosed attachments.
Mrs. Clary reported that town staff recommend approval from a zoning standpoint with the
suggestion the fence and the deck are either stained or painted white and defer to the BHAR for
architectural discretion.
Dan Asble of 328 Main Street in Smithfield stated that Mrs. Clary had covered what they
were hoping to complete at the property. He reported that they had completed extensive work on
the foundation and were just about done with that job. He reiterated the report that Mr. Clary had
given regarding the fence, shed, and house paint colors.
Chairman Gwaltney asked if there was any additional information that had not been
covered previously that he wanted the Board to know.
Mr. Asble stated that he did not have any other information to add, but that they wanted to
see the process to get some of these things approved to get started. They were especially anxious
to discuss with the Board the issue of the vinyl windows. He reported that they did not necessarily
want to restore the current wooden windows, but it would be an option along with adding storm
windows.
Mr. Hornback thanked Mr. Asble for taking on the project of restoring the house. He added
that most of the Board members had been in the same place as he is in with renovation challenges.
Mr. Asble invited the members of the Board to come see the house and he described how
they were able to fix foundation issues with the help of an engineer. He wanted to add that the
chimney in question for removal is in the back of the home and is not original to the house. He
described future plans to build a deck over the one-story addition that the chimney is attached to,
which would require its removal.
Chairman Gwaltney expressed concerns over the possible plans for the raised deck. He
stated that in all of the requested items, it is the most hypothetical and requires the most discussion.
He asked that the Board be able to address all of the other items separately from the deck and it be
considered at a later time when Mr. Asble has decided what he really wants to do with it.
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Mr. Asble stated that he felt that he and Ms. Gramajo, the applicant, had their hearts set on
completing the deck, and removal of the chimney would allow for the option of more entertainment
space.
Chairman Gwaltney asked the Board for their thoughts and reiterated that he thought it
would be easier to address the deck as a separate item.
The Town Attorney suggested that they could address each request separately to keep it
organized.
Chairman Gwaltney presented the thirty-foot (30’) long by six-foot (6’) tall wooden fence
that would be stained to match the neighbor’s fence for consideration.
Mr. Hess confirmed with Mr. Asble that the fence would be stained the same color as the
neighbors for continuity.
Mr. Hornback made a motion to approve the fence as presented, provided it is stained the
same color as the neighbor’s fence and the “good side” faces outward. Mr. Hess seconded the
motion. In a collective vote, all members were in favor, with no one opposed. The motion passed.
Chairman Gwaltney moved on to the house paint color scheme presented by Mr. Asble. He
confirmed with Mr. Asble that the two pictures provided illustrate the color concept options that
they are considering.
Mr. Hornback, Mrs. Brown, and Mr. Hess all stated that they felt that either combination
was acceptable.
Mrs. Lally made the motion to approve both color schemes as presented. Mr. Hill seconded
the motion. In a collective vote, all members were in favor, with no one opposed. The motion
passed.
Chairman Gwaltney presented for consideration the building of a ten-foot (10’) by ten-foot
(10’) by eight-foot (8’) tall, 100 square feet shed.
Mr. Hornback confirmed that it was like material, like colors, and had a like roof shingles
to the main house.
Chairman Gwaltney inquired about whether the siding would be T1-11 plywood siding.
Mr. Asble confirmed that it would be T1-11. He added that they would also consider using
Hardie plank siding to match the house.
Chairman Gwaltney stated that this would be what the Board would prefer and be more
inclined to approve.
Mr. Hess made a motion to approve provided that they will use Hardie plank for siding to
match the house. Mrs. Brown seconded the motion. In a collective vote, all members were in favor,
with no one opposed. The motion passed.
Chairman Gwaltney continued down the list and stated that they would move onto the
fourth item for consideration.
The Town Attorney recommended that they move that item to the end as there would need
to be more discussion since they alluded to controversy surrounding it.
Chairman Gwaltney presented the next item, replacing the bottom three to four rows of
wooden siding around the entire house with matching Hardie plank siding. The Hardie plank would
be painted to match the proposed color of the house.
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Mrs. Lally inquired if the siding would be going stud to stud or was there sheathing on the
house.
Mr. Asble stated that they need to cut out the areas of rotted siding and put new sheathing
down.
Mrs. Lally described her previous personal experience with replacing siding on a historical
home, and some of the challenges.
Mr. Hornback made a motion to approve the siding as presented. Mr. Hess seconded the
motion. In a collective vote, all members were in favor, with no one opposed. The motion passed.
Chairman Gwaltney moved on to the discussion of the proposed screen door replacement
and added that it would be replaced with a vinyl door.
Mr. Hill asked if they had looked at any wooden doors for the replacement.
Mr. Asble stated that they had but opted for vinyl due to the lower quality of the wooden
doors they had seen. He added that the proposed door would match the trim of the house, look the
best, and be the most durable.
Chairman Gwaltney stated that the door would be under a porch, which made it fairly well
protected and wood might work. He pointed out that the placement of the door is close to the street,
and the material would be visible.
Mr. Asble stated that the existing door was a vinyl screen door. He stated that they wanted
to upgrade as it was damaged.
Chairman Gwaltney stated that there were many things in the district that the Board had
never approved.
Mr. Hill inquired if Mr. Asble would be willing to look at a custom-made wooden door.
He acknowledged that the wooden doors that were readily available at Lowe’s did tend to be cheap
but added that a nice wooden door stained or painted would really look nice from the street.
Mr. Asble stated that they were trying to move away from using items that would require
more maintenance and painting. He continued that if it was up to the Board, he would be willing
to look at other wooden doors.
Mr. Hess made a motion to table approval of the screen door so that a wooden option may
be considered. The motion was seconded by Mrs. Lally.
Chairman Gwaltney confirmed with Mr. Asble that this would not delay the completion of
any of the approved construction.
Mr. Asble stated another option would be to take the existing door down, sandblast it, and
paint it so that it looks better.
Chairman Gwaltney stated that he may do as he wishes with the existing door, with the
exception of painting it a wild color. He called for a collective vote to table the issue, all members
were in favor, with no one opposed. The motion passed.
Chairman Gwaltney continued with the discussion of demolishing the existing chimney on
the rear of the house.
Mr. Hornback recapped that the chimney was at the back, hard to see, and related that he
understood the problems with possible chimney leaks.
Chairman Gwaltney confirmed that it was not serving any function at this time.
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Mr. Hornback made a motion to approve the demolition of the chimney as presented. Mrs.
Lally seconded the motion. In a collective vote all members were in favor, with no one opposed.
The motion passed.
Chairman Gwaltney raised the issue of replacing the existing windows with vinyl.
Mrs. Lally stated that in her previous experience with window replacement, the Jen-weld
windows were good, but made mostly of plastic.
There was discussion between the board members of different houses in the Historic
District with vinyl windows.
Mr. Asble stated that at the house next door to his it is hard to tell whether the windows are
vinyl or aluminum, but he can see the heat weld on the seam.
Chairman Gwaltney asked if he had spoken to the neighbor about their windows. Mr. Asble
stated that he had not.
Mrs. Lally reported that the owner of that home had sworn that the windows were not vinyl.
Mr. Hornback stated that one of the main items that the Board tries to protect is from using
all vinyl in renovations. He stated that there should be other options. He added that the Board
encourages the use of the other options especially considering the house is very close to the street.
He recommended the use of composite windows and stated that approval was unlikely with vinyl
windows.
Mr. Asble asked if the Board would collectively approve the use of composite adding that
it was very hard to find windows, have them made, and install them.
Mr. Hill recommended that he look at composite windows through Andersen Wood or
Atrium. He gave an example of a home that has used these types of windows in renovations
recently for Mr. Asble to look at. He stated that he could not speak for the entire Board, but he did
not feel that there would be any problems with either of those two types. He added that there were
many structures that they had approved them in.
Mr. Asble stated he would like to get approval for the windows as soon as possible as they
would like to replace the windows prior to replacing the siding and painting the house.
Chairman Gwaltney interpreted this to mean that Mr. Asble was asking for permission to
proceed with window replacement using one of the two products discussed.
Mrs. Lally questioned if the Board should see them first.
Mr. Hill made the motion to approve provided that Andersen Woodwright or Atrium
composite windows are used, not vinyl. Mr. Hess seconded the motion. In a collective vote to table
the issue, all members were in favor, with no one opposed. The motion passed.
Chairman Gwaltney moved on to the approval of the window styles proposed and reviewed
the three options presented by the applicant. He asked Mr. Asble if he wanted just one of the three
options.
Mr. Asble asked the Board that if he was able to find the windows that had been approved
would they be willing to give him a general approval of the options.
Chairman Gwaltney asked the Board if they felt that all the options presented are
appropriate. There was general discussion of different types of gridded windows.
Mr. Hess stated that he was concerned that the Board was approving styles that had not
been seen. He stated that he understood that Mr. Asble would like to get the windows ordered so
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that he may start his construction but inquired if they should require that once he has made his
decision that he return to Mrs. Clary to confirm that it was one of the approved options.
Mrs. Lally made the point that the number of grids did not matter to her because all of the
different types could be found all over the Historic District.
Mrs. Clary asked Mr. Hess if he wanted to specify what type of window was in the front
of the house and in the rear of the house.
Mr. Hess stated that it was one over one in the rear and six over six in the front.
Mr. Asble stated that this was fine.
The Town attorney asked Mr. Asble if this is what he wanted.
Mr. Asble stated that this configuration was what existed on the house currently and
confirmed with the Town Attorney that this is what they preferred.
Mrs. Lally stated that Mr. Asble may be limited to what is available, and if he was happy
with any of these choices they should approve them.
Mr. Hess made a motion to approve all three options of window style presented. Mr. Hill
seconded the motion. In a collective vote all members were in favor, with no one opposed. The
motion passed.
Chairman Gwaltney presented information for discussion regarding the proposed deck that
would be eighteen feet (18’) by twenty-four feet (24’) by twelve feet (12’) tall.
Mr. Asble stated that looking at the house from the left side, the deck would not be able to
be seen. He added that it might be seen slightly from the shared driveway, but it would be mostly
hidden from view.
Mr. Hill asked if there had been a drawing provided of the proposed deck.
Mr. Asble stated that there was not one in the packet.
Mrs. Lally stated that she would like to see a drawing before ruling on the deck.
Chairman Gwaltney stated that Mr. Asble and his partner had provided a thorough packet
and he felt confident that they would be able to complete a drawing of what the deck will look
like. Chairman Gwaltney stated that this would not be something that Mrs. Clary would be able to
approve without the applicant coming back in front of the Board.
Mr. Hill asked what kind of material they were planning on using for the deck, handrailing,
etc.
Mr. Asble stated that they would be using all wood, and it would be stained to match all
the fencing in the backyard.
Mr. Hornback asked if he was planning on parking a car underneath.
Mr. Asble stated that it would likely be tall enough for that, but that was not the intended
purpose.
Mr. Hess made a motion to table the issue until the applicant returns with a visual plan.
Mr. Hill seconded the motion. In a collective vote to table the issue, all members were in favor,
with no one opposed. The motion passed.
Garage Door Replacement (After-the-Fact) – 341 Main Street – Landmark – Shelia
Robinette, applicant.
Mrs. Clary reported that the applicant is seeking after-the-fact approval to replace the
plastic, rollup garage door with three (3) wooden French doors, painted white, on the detached
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garage. Each French door features a three (3) by five (5) grid pattern. The white wood modeling
that was present around the old garage door remained in place.
She stated that town staff recommend approval from a zoning standpoint and defer to the
BHAR for architectural discretion.
Sheila Robinette of 341 Main Street in Smithfield apologized for the after-the-fact approval
application. She reported that she had been told a skylight on the same structure facing Drummonds
Lane did not need approval from the Board, so she assumed that this also did not need Board
approval as it was also facing Drummonds. She stated that she kept the wood casing around the
door the same and stated that they could see this in the pictures provided.
Mrs. Lally stated that it looked very cute.
Mr. Gwaltney asked if this was used as a rental property.
Mrs. Robinette stated that it was used for family to stay in when they visited.
Mr. Hornback made a motion to approve as presented. Mrs. Lally seconded the motion.
Chairman Gwaltney called for a collective vote to approve as presented, all members were in favor,
with no one opposed. The motion passed.
Accessory Structure (Fence) – 343 Main Street – Landmark – Carroll and Ann Hubbard,
applicants.
Mrs. Clary stated that the applicant is seeking approval to erect a six-foot (6’) wooden
privacy fence to enclose a portion of the backyard. The fence would be erected on a portion of the
left side property line and will be approximately sixty-four (64’) in length, at which point the fence
will make a ninety (90) degree right-hand turn. The fence would then extend across the backyard
and be attached to the left side of the existing clay studio structure. The small portion of the fence
on the right side of the clay studio structure would be attached to the clay studio structure and the
neighbor’s fence at 345 Main Street. The fence would be constructed out of pressure-treated pine
with four-inch (4”) dog-eared pickets and feature two (2) three and a half foot wide (3 ½’) gates
at the front and rear portions of the fence.
The applicant has requested to let the fence age naturally without painting or staining it for
the following reasons:
1) They would like the fence to match the existing fence on the right side of the property.
2) There is not enough room between the applicant’s fence and the neighbor’s fence to
paint or stain the fence.
3) The rear yard of the brick house located at 339 Main Street has overgrown shrubbery
that will hide the proposed fence, which would allow it not to be seen from Drummonds
Lane.
She continued that town staff recommend approval from a zoning standpoint with the
suggestion the fence is either stained or painted white, the flat side faces outward, and defer to the
BHAR for architectural discretion.
Carroll Hubbard of 343 Main Street in Smithfield stated that he wanted to build the fence
around a portion of his backyard as he has adopted a rescue dog that is a fence jumper. He reported
that his neighbor at 345 Main Street has a six-foot fence on one side of his yard and he wanted his
fence to look just like that fence. He reported that the flat side of that fence faces the inside of his
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yard. He added that he would only be enclosing about 60 feet of the yard. He stated that on the left
side of the yard was a four-foot picket fence, and he wanted his fence to run parallel to it. He stated
that he noticed that zoning had suggested that he construct a new fence facing outwards on this
side. Mr. Hubbard stated he was requesting to change the facing to inward, giving the reason of
limited workspace for the builder and the existing fencing on the other side of his yard faces inward
and he would like for them to match. He continued that there would be two small sections of fence
on both sides of the house that would be visible from Main Street and he had no objection with
putting the flat side of the fencing facing outward in these sections.
Mr. Hornback inquired if Mr. Hubbard had given any thought to asking his neighbor with
the four-foot picket fence if they would be willing to take that section down so that he could replace
it with just the six foot fence. He questioned putting a fence so close to an existing fence.
He stated that he had not discussed the issue with his neighbor. He added that his main
reason for putting up the fence was to have it look the same the entire way around the yard.
Mr. Hess stated that he understood that there were some unique considerations. He pointed
out that the proposed placement of the fence would create landscaping issues for his neighbor. He
also suggested that Mr. Hubbard speak with his neighbor and ask if they could work together on
the issue.
Mr. Hubbard stated that he had mentioned that he wanted to build the fence to his neighbor,
but he had heard no comment back. He reiterated that he needed a six-foot fence. He wanted to
point out that only two feet of his fence would be visible from the outside and the picket fence was
built with the flat side facing inwards.
Chairman Gwaltney acknowledged that both of the yards were secluded from the public
view. He stated that most of the Board’s comments centered around the landscaping and upkeep
between the applicant and his neighbor versus who would see the fence from the street.
Mrs. Lally and Mr. Hess rediscussed the facing of his neighbor’s picket fence with the flat
side facing inward.
Mr. Hornback made the motion to approve as presented with the understanding that the flat
side would be facing inward due to the fact that the fence is not visible from the street and the
fencing that is visible from the street would be flat side facing outward. Mrs. Lally seconded the
motion. Chairman Gwaltney called for a collective vote, all members were in favor, with no one
opposed. The motion passed.
After the vote Chairman Gwaltney mentioned the staining of the fence, however the Town
Attorney pointed out that they had already completed the vote to approve as presented.
Accessory Structure (Sunroom) – 233 Cary Street – Non-Contributing – ECCO Remodeling,
Inc. C/O Pilar Martinez, applicant.
Mrs. Clary reported that the applicant is seeking approval to remove the existing twelve-
foot (12’) by twenty-foot (20’), 240 square foot, existing deck and erect a twelve foot (12’) by
sixteen-foot (16’) by seven-foot (7’) tall, 192 square foot, sunroom. The Allview Elite Sunroom
will be white and feature double pane sliding glass windows, single slope, expanded foam
aluminum roof with no shingles, aluminum gutters, and aluminum downspouts. The sunroom
interior will feature multiple outlets, a ceiling fan, an Amana heating and cooling system, and vinyl
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