Public Hearings
Regular MeetingSnohomish, WA · March 9, 2022
Minutes
Snohomish County Council
Public Hearings
Meeting Minutes
Megan Dunn, Council Chair
Jared Mead, Council Vice-Chair
Councilmembers: Stephanie Wright, Sam Low, Nate Nehring
Wednesday, March 9, 2022 10:30 AM Remote Meeting via Zoom
CALL TO ORDER
Council Chair Dunn called the public hearing to order at 10:30 a.m. and provided instructions
for those wishing to provide public testimony via Zoom.
ROLL CALL
The clerk called the roll and stated that all five members were present.
ACTION ITEMS
PRESENT:
Council Chair Dunn
Council Vice-Chair Mead
Councilmember Wright
Councilmember Low
Councilmember Nehring
Jim Martin, Council Staff
Elena Lao, Asst. Clerk of the Council
Debbie Eco, Clerk of the Council
1. Ordinance 22-005, relating to County Council Districts; adopting a 2022-0026
Districting Plan after the 2020 Federal Decennial Census,
amending Chapter 1.08 SCC, and providing an effective date
Council Chair Dunn opened the hearing and the clerk read the ordinance title
into the record.
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Jim Martin, Senior Legislative Analyst, provided a staff report explaining the
proposed boundary changes recommended in the Districting Plan.
Council Chair Dunn opened the hearing for public testimony and provided
instructions for remote participation in the Zoom meeting. There being no
persons present wishing to provide public testimony, she closed the testimony
portion of the hearing calling for a motion or discussion of the Council.
ACTION: Council Vice-Chair Mead made a motion to approve
Ordinance 22-005. Councilmember Wright seconded the motion.
The clerk called the roll and the motion to approve Ordinance 22-005
carried unanimously.
PRESENT:
Council Chair Dunn
Council Vice-Chair Mead
Councilmember Wright
Councilmember Low
Councilmember Nehring
Ryan Countryman, Council Staff
Debbie Eco, Clerk of the Council
*See names below for people providing public testimony
2. Ordinance 22-006, relating to growth management; revising 2022-0073
accessory dwelling unit regulations; amending section 30.28.010 of
the Snohomish County Code
Chair Dunn opened the public hearing and the clerk read the ordinance title into
the record.
Ryan Countryman, Sr. Legislative Analyst, provided a brief staff report and
stated this ordinance would modify the Snohomish County Code to allow
detached accessory dwelling units (ADUs) on substandard lots and make other
adjustments to ADU standards on rural and resource zones. He, briefly,
explained the amendment sheet proposed by the Executive branch.
Based on public comment received, Chair Dunn asked if detached ADUs must
comply with minimum lot size and density requirements in rural areas. Mr.
Countryman responded.
Responding to Councilmember Low, Mr. Countryman spoke to the proposed
amendment regarding the minimum lot size of 25,000 square feet.
Chair Dunn opened the hearing for public testimony. The following people
provided testimony:
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Glenn Blankenship, resident of Snohomish County, testified in support of ADUs.
Dale Kaemingk, resident of the city of Brier, testified in support of the ordinance.
Don Brown, resident of Snohomish County, testified in support of the ordinance.
Joe Rye, resident of Lake Goodwin, testified in support of staff
recommendations and for the removal of the 100 foot requirement.
There being no further persons wishing to testify, Chair Dunn closed the
testimony portion of the hearing calling for a motion or discussion of the Council.
Councilmember Nehring provided supportive comments and stated this
ordinance will make some good changes.
Councilmember Low also provided supportive comments and said this provides
more affordable housing options. He said he appreciated those that gave
testimony today.
Responding to Chair Dunn, Mr. Countryman spoke further to the 100-foot rule.
ACTION: Vice-Chair Mead made a motion to approve Ordinance No. 22-006.
Councilmember Wright seconded the motion.
Vice-Chair Mead made a motion to approve Amendment Sheet 1.
Councilmember Wright seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.
The question was called for and the clerk called the roll. The motion to approve
Ordinance No. 22-006, as amended, carried unanimously.
PRESENT:
Council Chair Dunn
Council Vice-Chair Mead
Councilmember Wright
Councilmember Low
Councilmember Nehring
Ryan Countryman, Council Staff
David Killingstad, Planning & Development Services
Debbie Eco, Clerk of the Council
3. Motion 21-147, approving the Final List of Amendments to the 2021-0067
GMA Comprehensive Plan (GMACP) And GMA Development
Regulations for Docket XXI
(continued from March 2, 2022)
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Chair Dunn opened the public hearing and announced that public testimony for
Motion No. 21-147 has been closed. The clerk read the motion title into the
record.
Ryan Countryman, Sr. Legislative Analyst, provided background information and
an update of this motion up to this point. He said there will be a discussion of
the council-initiated motions at the Planning and Community Development
Committee next week, March 15th at 10:30 a.m.
Mr. Countryman displayed his staff report and recapped individual docket items.
He provided options for moving forward.
Chair Dunn spoke about how to handle the motion today, she suggested
assuming the application is “do not process further” unless a councilmember
wants to make a motion to process and include in the Final Docket. She
explained there is has been no formal or standard process. Councilmembers
concurred.
At Councilmember Low’s request, Mr. Countryman clarified for the public that
any application that moves forward today only directs Planning & Development
Services (PDS) to study at a greater level of detail and does not bind the Council
to approve any of them in 2024. He explained the Council will then have
enough supporting information in 2024 to consider making changes, there will
be no zoning changes today, just an action to study further.
Vice-Chair Mead asked about the dynamics of costs related to the same general
areas overlapping council-initiated requests and private requests.
Responding to Chair Dunn, Mr. Countryman spoke about Environmental Impact
Statement (EIS) costs for council-initiated motions, he said the sum ranged
between $150,000 and $200,000 and said PDS will come to Council with a
budget adjustment request.
David Killingstad, PDS, spoke to Vice-Chair Mead’s question about overlapping
costs. He spoke about process once an application is placed on the docket. He
spoke about the costs of private applications and said the range is from $20,000
to an excess of $50,000.
Councilmember Low spoke to Motion No. 22-090 that he put forward, [for
discussion at Planning and Community Development Committee next week,
March 15th]. He explained there are issues that need to be addressed at 43rd
and didn’t believe that the applicant should have to bear the costs for something
we all agree needs to be fixed. He stated, he isn’t sure he will vote for
everything included in Motion 22-090 in two years, but knows there will, at least
be some compromise to address the issues on 43rd and believes the County
should bear the costs.
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Chair Dunn agreed with the concerns regarding 43rd, that the Council should
initiate an amendment to make that area right and move that area into the UGA
in a way that also considers Little Bear Creek and other sensitive issues. She
said she is comfortable bringing forward a separate motion that would allow for
carving out 43rd, but she said she does not support moving over 700 acres into
the UGA, at this time.
Councilmember Nehring also agreed that 43rd needs to be included and looks
forward to supporting the council-initiated motion that does that.
Chair Dunn explained that if an item doesn't move forward today, there are still
other options.
ACTION: Vice-Chair Mead made a motion to approve Motion No. 21-147.
Councilmember Wright seconded the motion.
DR1 Town of Darrington: place on Final Docket
Councilmember Nehring made a motion to place DR1 Town of Darrington on the
Final Docket. Councilmember Wright seconded the motion and it carried
unanimously.
LS1 City of Lake Stevens: do not process further
LS2 City of Lake Stevens: place on Final Docket
Councilmember Low made a motion to place LS2 City of Lake Stevens on the
Final Docket. Councilmember Nehring seconded the motion. Councilmember
Low noted that this was recommended by the Executive’s Office.
The question was called for and the motion to place LS2 City of Lake Stevens
on the Final Docket carried unanimously.
LS3 City of Lake Stevens: do not process further
LS4 City of Lake Stevens: do not process further
LS5 Glenn Gustafson: do not process further
Councilmember Low stated LS5 is a nice compromise but believes there is no
support for this one.
LS6 Taylor McLaren: do not process further
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MALT1 John Vangemert: place on Final Docket
Chair Dunn made a motion to place MALT 1 John Vangemert on the Final
Docket. Councilmember Low seconded the motion.
Chair Dunn explained she is supporting this motion in order to take a better look
at employment numbers.
The question was called for and the motion to place MALT1 John Vangemert on
the Final Docket carried unanimously.
Councilmember Nehring explained he will be moving all the applications in his
district. He said it doesn’t necessarily indicate he will be supportive at the end of
the process, but is supportive of moving them forward for further study.
MV1 Natural 9 Holdings: do not further process
Councilmember Nehring made a motion to place MV1 Natural 9 Holdings on the
Final Docket. Councilmember Low seconded the motion and the motion failed
two to three with Councilmembers Dunn, Mead, and Wright voting against.
MV2 Northpoint Development: place on Final Docket
Councilmember Nehring made a motion to place MV2 Northpoint Development
on the Final Docket. Councilmember Low seconded the motion and it carried
four to one with Chair Dunn voting against.
Councilmember Low spoke to MON1 and MON2. He believes they should be
moved forward for further study but didn’t believe there was support. He
requested to move MON2 first and if there was support, he would move MON1.
There was no objection by councilmembers to take them out of order.
MON2 Davis-Johnson: place on Final Docket
Councilmember Low made a motion to place MON2 Davis-Johnson on the Final
Docket. He explained this is the area where the no shooting zone is that the
Council instituted recently. Councilmember Nehring seconded the motion and it
carried three to two with Councilmembers Mead and Wright voting against.
MON1 Wade Edelbrock: do not process further
Councilmember Low made a motion to place MON1 Wade Edelbrock on the
Final Docket. Councilmember Nehring seconded the motion and it failed two to
three with Councilmembers Mead, Wright, and Dunn voting against.
STAN1 City of Stanwood: do not process further
Mr. Countryman confirmed that this application has been withdrawn by the city.
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SW8 Charles Austin: do not process further
Councilmember Low explained he will not be supporting SW 8 as he is putting
forward Motion No. 22-090 that covers the residents on 43rd.
Councilmember Nehring concurred and stated he will also be supporting
Councilmember Low’s motion.
Vice-Chair Mead explained he will also be supporting Councilmember Low’s
motion and not these today and doesn’t believe the private citizens should incur
the costs.
Chair Dunn expressed her appreciation for the Council’s willingness to work
together and recognize that the residents shouldn’t bear the burden.
SW9 Norm Crooks: do not process further
SW10 CS Real Estate Development: place on Final Docket
Councilmember Low made a motion to place SW10 CS Real Estate
Development on the Final Docket. Councilmember Nehring seconded the
motion. Councilmember Low noted that this was recommended by PDS.
The question was called for and the motion to place SW 10 CS Real Estate
Development on the Final Docket carried unanimously.
SW11 Todd McNeal: place on Final Docket
Councilmember Low made a motion to place SW11 Todd McNeal on the Final
Docket. Councilmember Nehring seconded the motion. Councilmember Low
noted that this was also recommended by PDS.
The question was called for and the motion to place SW 11 Todd McNeal on the
Final Docket carried unanimously.
SW12 Mike Mietzner: place on the Final Docket
Councilmember Low made a motion to place SW12 Mike Mietzner on the Final
Docket. Councilmember Wright seconded the motion and it carried
unanimously.
SW13 Gerald Morrier: do not process further
SW14 Janice Petrie: place on Final Docket
Councilmember Low made a motion to place SW14 Janice Petrie on the Final
Docket. Councilmember Nehring seconded the motion and it carried
unanimously.
SW15 RNK Investments: do not process further
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SW16 Village Life: do not process further
SW17 Town of Woodway: place on Final Docket
Councilmember Wright made a motion to place SW 17 Town of Woodway on the
Final Docket. Vice-Chair Mead seconded the motion.
Responding to questions from councilmembers, Mr. Countryman spoke about
two parts of this application brought by the town.
The question was called for and the motion to place SW 17 Town of Woodway
on the Final Docket carried unanimously.
RURAL1 Van Dam Farms: do not process further
Councilmember Nehring made a motion to place RURAL1 Van Dam Farms on
the Final Docket. Councilmember Low seconded the motion and it failed two to
three with Councilmembers Wright, Mead, and Dunn voting against.
ACTION: The question was called for and the main motion to approve Motion
21-147, as amended, carried unanimously.
ADJOURN
There being no further business, Council Chair Dunn adjourned the Council for the day at
11:33 a.m.
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Agenda
Snohomish County Council
Public Hearings
Agenda
Megan Dunn, Council Chair
Jared Mead, Council Vice-Chair
Councilmembers: Stephanie Wright, Sam Low, Nate Nehring
Wednesday, March 9, 2022 10:30 AM Remote Meeting via Zoom
Webinar Link: https://zoom.us/j/94846850772
Join by Phone: (253) 215-8782 or (301) 715-8592
Enter Meeting ID: 948 4685 0772
Snohomish County Council meetings are being held remotely via Zoom.
The public is encouraged to participate and may provide written comment at contact.council@snoco.org or mail to
3000 Rockefeller Ave M/S 609, Everett, WA 98201. The public may participate using the Zoom link above.
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
ACTION ITEMS
1. Ordinance 22-005, relating to County Council Districts; adopting a 2022-0026
Districting Plan after the 2020 Federal Decennial Census,
amending Chapter 1.08 SCC, and providing an effective date
2. Ordinance 22-006, relating to growth management; revising 2022-0073
accessory dwelling unit regulations; amending section 30.28.010 of
the Snohomish County Code
Attachments: Proposed Amendment Sheet 1
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3. Motion 21-147, approving the Final List of Amendments to the 2021-0067
GMA Comprehensive Plan (GMACP) And GMA Development
Regulations for Docket XXI
(Continued from March 2, 2022)
ADJOURN
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