Planning Commission Meeting - ARCHIVED
Regular MeetingSouth Jordan, UT · May 10, 2022
Minutes
CITY OF SOUTH JORDAN
ELECTRONIC
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
May 10, 2022
Present: Chair Michele Hollist, Commissioner Steven Catmull, Commissioner Laurel
Bevans, Assistant City Attorney Greg Simonsen, City Planner Greg Schindler,
Deputy City Recorder Cindy Valdez, Planner Damir Drozdek, Planner David Mann,
Supervising Senior Engineer Shane Greenwood, IT Director Jon Day, Senior IS
Tech Phill Brown, GIS Coordinator Matt Jarman, Meeting Transcriptionist Diana
Baun, Director of Planning Steven Schaefermeyer
Absent: Commissioner Nathan Gedge, Commissioner Trevor Darby
Others: Abi Rushing, DBranch, Chris Evertz, Jerry Ohrn, Antonio Flores, Ryan Alvarez,
Tina Franco, Matt Mecham, Gary Howland, Jay Mortensen, Patrick Egbert, Dean
Prusse, Glade Mumford, Claudia Mumford, Shannon Ellsworth, Landon Allred,
Daniel Branch
6:31 P.M.
REGULAR MEETING
A. WELCOME AND ROLL CALL – Chair Michele Hollist
Commission Chair Michele Hollist welcomed everyone to the Electronic Planning Commission
Meeting. She noted that there are three commissioners present, which constitutes a quorum and
allows this meeting to proceed as normal. For any motion this evening to pass it will require all
three votes, a unanimous vote, as they normally have five members.
B. APPOINTING A COMMISSIONER TO CONDUCT THE MEETING
**Item removed per motion**
C. MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA
Commissioner Bevans motioned to amend tonight’s agenda to strike Item B, appointing a
commissioner to conduct the meeting, noting that Chair Michele Hollist is present to give
the welcome and roll call tonight; she also motioned to approve the rest of the Planning
Commission agenda for May 10, 2022 as published. Chair Hollist seconded the motion;
vote was unanimous in favor. Commissioners Gedge and Darby were absent from the vote.
C. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
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Commissioner Catmull motioned to approve the April 26, 2022 Planning Commission
Meeting Minutes as published. Chair Hollist seconded the motion; vote was unanimous in
favor. Commissioners Gedge and Darby were absent from the vote.
D. STAFF BUSINESS - None
E. OTHER BUSINESS - None
F. COMMENTS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBNERS – None
G. SUMMARY ACTION – None
H. ACTION – None
I. ADMINISTRATIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS
I.1. WALMART FUEL STATION SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT
Location: 3590 W South Jordan Parkway
File No.: PLSPR202100290
Applicant: Antonio Flores
Planner David Mann reviewed background information from the Staff Report.
Commissioner Laurel Bevans noted that this appears to be very close to the pick-up area, and
asked if they are planning on moving that or if they foresee any issues with this interfering with
their pick-up lines.
Planner Mann said the applicant can address that. There is another application at this location for
a proposed drive-up ATM that he believes is still currently under review by staff; that will come
forward in the coming months.
Commissioner Bevans asked for more information about the waterline easement.
Supervising Senior Engineer Shane Greenwood said that with this fuel station, they are adding
an additional waterline and service, so we required the easement to maintain that.
Chair Michele Hollist mentioned the added parking, and asked how many spots are lost due to
this application, along with how many are required when adding this type of use to the site.
Planner Mann said that it’s based on the size of the structure. This site is relatively small and the
applicant did the calculations which are shown on the documents in the staff report. They took
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into consideration the Walmart and the fueling station as a combination, so they added the two
uses and the necessary required stalls and removed the stalls that would be taken by this fuel
station; those calculations gave them the final number of 57 additional stalls needed to meet the
minimum standard.
Chair Hollist asked which side the pumps will be on, and how many there will be.
Planner Mann said it looks like there are six pumps, double sided, with a canopy over the center
of the site.
Chair Hollist invited the applicant to speak.
Ryan Alvarez (Applicant) was happy to answer any questions the commission might have. He
also wanted to note that they have Chris Edwards from the architectural side online as well, and
he is available to answer any questions about the building. Regarding the pick-up stalls and
parking required around the site, they will be coordinating with the store and making sure the
store still has their pick-up stalls available when the fuel station is built, as well as meeting the
city required parking stall counts with the new improvements.
Chair Hollist opened the hearing to public comment. There were no comments and the hearing
was closed. She also noted that her only concern is the new parking stalls being located in a
place that doesn’t seem convenient to the people accessing the development. They may possibly
be intending to encourage employees to park there, but she also noted that she has never seen the
parking lot full on a normal business day; because of this, she is comfortable with the
arrangement. This seems like a reasonable location for this kind of use, and she is not seeing any
other issues.
Commissioner Catmull agrees.
A member of the audience asked to make a comment, Chair Hollist responded and apologized,
stating that the comment portion of the hearing for this item has already passed.
Commissioner Catmull motioned to approve File No. PLSPR202100290, for the
construction of a fuel station, with the following provision: The applicant provide a 15 foot
wide waterline easement to the city for a water lateral between the meter and the main
water line. Chair Hollist seconded the motion. Roll Call vote was 3-0, unanimous in favor;
Commissioner Gedge and Darby were absent from the vote.
I.2. RIDGECREST ESTATES SUBDIVISION AMENDMENT
Location: 892 W Brookcrest Circle
File No.: PLPLA202100128
Applicant: Jerry Ohrn
Planner David Mann reviewed background information from the Staff Report.
Chair Michele Hollist asked if we anticipate access for the property to the north extending
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further to additional properties, and if they would use the Palmer Vista Drive should it develop
later. She wants to make sure they aren’t creating a situation where that flag lot access might
extend further to multiple lots.
Planner Mann said no, the property would have to be rezoned to be developed; that would be
under more scrutiny as far as proposed concepts and have more input from staff and the public to
make sure any future designs would be done in a way that made sense logically.
Commissioner Steve Catmull noted that it’s a flag lot today, but depending on what happens with
Palmer Vista he wonders if there is a situation where that wouldn’t be a flag lot any longer.
Planner Mann said that as of right now there is no other way to access that property, they would
have to get access across the parcel, which is up to the property owner to grant. As the property
to the north develops, if it does at a future time, it might turn into a standard lot and accessed
from the north.
Commissioner Catmull said this was asked because if it was changed, then the requirements for
the setbacks and other items could potentially change from a flag lot versus a standard lot.
Planner Mann said that if the design changed based on a flag lot versus a regular lot, it would
enter the legal nonconforming classification.
Chair Hollist asked if with this piece of property moving into the subdivision, the subdivision as
a whole still maintains the appropriate density.
Planner Mann said yes, because they are increasing the size of the subdivision and adding one
lot, it keeps the density about the same as it was.
Chair Hollist invited the applicant up to speak.
Jerry Ohrn (Applicant) thanked the commission for reviewing this and all the help from the
city to make sure everything was in compliance.
Chair Hollist opened the hearing for comments. There were no comments and the public hearing
was closed.
Commissioner Bevans motioned to approve File No. PLPLA202100128, subdivision
amendment. Chair Hollist seconded the motion. Roll Call vote was 3-0, unanimous in
favor; Commissioner Gedge and Darby were absent from the vote.
I.3. COUSINS LANE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT
Location: 2726 W Cousins Lane
File No.: PLPP202100283
Applicant: Jay Mortensen
Planner David Mann reviewed background information from the Staff Report.
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Chair Michele Hollist asked about fencing requirements, as it looks like the zone adjacent may
not have farm animal rights.
Planner Mann said a masonry wall was installed with the development of those subdivisions
because this property did have farm animal rights.
Commissioner Steve Catmull asked if the covered parking area shown on the map was going to
be removed.
Planner Mann said that if that is to remain they would have to address it, but as far as he
understands, the lot would be fully developed by the new owner and removed.
Commissioner Catmull asked if subdividing this puts it in any kind of nonconforming state with
an existing structure there.
Planner Mann said that during either the final subdivision stage or applying for a building permit
that would be addressed before any construction happens.
Chair Hollist asked if all offsets when subdivided still apply to the new property.
Planner Mann confirmed that yes, the offsets still apply.
Chair Hollist asked if the applicant was present. She noted that the applicant indicated from the
audience that the structure Commissioner Catmull referred to is currently being removed and he
has no further comment at this time. She then opened the hearing for public comment; there were
no comments and the hearing was closed.
Commissioner Laurel Bevans added that, knowing the previous owner of this property, he would
be thrilled with what’s going on.
Commissioner Catmull motioned to approve File No. PLPP202100283, preliminary
subdivision plat. Chair Hollist seconded the motion; Roll Call vote was 3-0, unanimous in
favor. Commissioners Gedge and Darby were absent from the vote.
I.4. MUMFORD ESTATES PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT
Location: 972 W Shields Lane
File No.: PLPP202100231
Applicant: Tina Franco, Howland Partners, Inc.
Planner Damir Drozdek reviewed background information from the Staff Report.
Chair Michele Hollist noted that the Staff Report indicated no fencing requirements. She is
wondering if there will be any sort of wall or barrier requirement along the road, as it is very
steep and the road coming in off of Shields Lane will be a pretty precipitous drop if someone
were to go off the side.
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Supervising Senior Engineer Shane Greenwood said it is his understanding that there will be a
guardrail on at least the part of the road up to Shields. This project is a bit unique with that grade,
and he believes staff required the developer to provide this.
Chair Hollist asked if that guardrail will ensure the safety of both pedestrians and cars.
Engineer Greenwood said he believes there is sidewalk curb adjacent on the west side, no
sidewalk on the east side; there will also be a cable barrier along the side of the road.
Chair Hollist asked if engineering felt that this was sufficient to get emergency vehicles into the
area.
Engineer Greenwood said he believes this has been reviewed with Fire and they were okay with
it.
Chair Hollist asked for the standard road width in the city, she heard this will be between 25-31
feet wide.
Engineer Greenwood said that a standard residential road width is 27 feet, plus two feet of gutter
on each side, making 31 feet. This will be a standard width down on the north end, but as it
climbs the hill to Shields Lane, it tightens up to the 25 feet.
Chair Hollist asked about any plans to put curbing on Shields Lane to prevent left hand turns, to
encourage one way in and one way out.
Engineer Greenwood said no, it will be a full movement intersection.
Chair Hollist asked if there will be anything done to ensure visibility coming out of that
intersection, as it’s on a bend.
Engineer Greenwood suggested having the applicant address that question.
Chair Hollist asked about a retaining wall possibly between the walking trail and tunnel
immediately adjacent to this to the east.
Engineer Greenwood suggested asking the applicant about that as well.
Chair Hollist assumes that a retaining wall will be necessary, and that involves some heavy
equipment; she asked what will be done to ensure the walking trail is still accessible and the
tunnel won’t be blocked during construction.
Engineer Greenwood noted the applicant will have to address that issue as well.
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Chair Hollist asked if the city can stipulate that the trial and tunnel not be blocked during
construction.
Engineer Greenwood said that hasn’t been discussed.
Chair Hollist asked if this was county owned land.
Planner Drozdek said he would check on who owns the trail.
Commissioner Laurel Bevans asked, knowing this piece of land is near the river, if they will be
required to do SWPP plans and keep in compliance or if there are specific portions of the SWPP
plan that will be enacted because they are so close to the waterway.
Engineer Greenwood said they will be required to provide a SWPP plan, and to show where the
runoff will go. He believes they are proposing to discharge their storm drain into the river, and
that Salt Lake County Flood Control is reviewing that. The same requirements here apply just as
anywhere else.
Planner Drozdek said the city owns the trail and the land.
Chair Hollist asked if we would be in line to put something in place to require the developer not
to block that trail and maintain access to all portions of the trail during development and
construction.
Assistant City Attorney Greg Simonsen said they could do that, but only if they had evidence
presented that it was a detriment we are looking at; he doesn’t believe we are looking at that.
Homes are being built all along that river, and that trail diverts around the property; he believes
they are set up to have access down to the property without having to use the trail at all, but he
asked to have that confirmed with the applicant.
Chair Hollist’s only concern is the section immediately coming out of the tunnel because it is so
steep.
Commissioner Steve Catmull asked if any of those items were things they would address in a site
plan versus a subdivision plat.
Planner Drozdek said there will be no site plan.
Chair Hollist invited the applicant forward to speak.
Gary Howland (Applicant) is the CEO of Howland Partners. They have been working for about
2.5 years on this particular development and there has been an awful lot of work that has gone
into it. They want to thank the city for their time, effort and staff, as well as engineering. This
has been a difficult project to tackle, but with their help and a lot of work and effort, they have
been able to make this work in such a way that he can address many of the questions that the
commission had. There are things they are going to do that are not required by the city, that you
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typically don’t see put in, which he will address as they are brought up because safety is first and
foremost their concern on this development; that the people living in these homes, or coming out
on to Shields Lane, are safe. The slope of the grade of the road falls within the city code, it is no
steeper than is allowed by the city code. They will not in any way infringe on the trail. They have
had to go to great lengths working with the county, the Jordan River Flood Control people; these
issues are no different than the ones they ran into developing Phase 4 of West River Estates. On
the east side of West River Estates, as it goes up along the trail, they built a launch trench that
was over 10 feet wide and over probably 100 feet long that was L-shaped; this is was done to
protect the stream and the sides of the stream so it doesn’t change. One of the things they have
done here is that all of the water does not discharge into the Jordan River, they are actually
putting in a Stormtech or Primco system on the lots; that will be going on lot 4, along with a
launch trench that you can see follows the entire length of the development. That trench is a 10
foot deep trench that is filled with liner and gravel, so water can drain and come out in a specific
amount of cubic inches per hour to avoid flooding; County Flood Control has signed off on this.
When they did Phase 4, they didn’t know they had to go through all that. Having developed
Phase 4 they knew this beforehand so it was addressed with the county before they got into
whether or not this could even be done.
Chair Hollist noted there was a comment in the Staff Report about access being granted for the
city and maintenance. She asked if that was just for the fire hydrants and water meters, or if this
was for the drainage system as well.
Mr. Howland said the HOA will maintain the drainage system, it’s just basically where the
waterflow goes and then takes care of itself other than the service the HOA will maintain
depending on the system. There is a sewer easement through there, and Mr. Mumford allowed
them during Phase 4 to go through his property. The city asked him to straighten the waterline
out so they have taken the water main and put it in the road, taking that out to Shields Lane so
it’s not impacted as well.
Chair Hollist asked about visibility, what are they going to do to increase visibility for this road
exiting on to Shields Lane.
Mr. Howland said they will clear out the trees from the front so there is great visibility going
both directions. They would have liked to align this road with the current road on the opposite
side of the street, unfortunately that property isn’t owned by South Jordan and it’s wetlands so it
can’t be disturbed; it is also, he believes, part of the Jordan River Corridor and protected that
way. There was really only one place they could get this road in, and it’s at the grade and
location it is because of that. South Jordan City helped them work that out, and then the
developer approached the adjoining neighbor to acquire the necessary property from her and do
some property trading to get the road in.
Chair Hollist asked for more details on the retaining wall that will be necessary.
Mr. Howland said the retaining wall on one side is roughly about 16 feet and 10 feet on the
other. There will be a guardrail, not like the one that was explained, as it will be much more
substantial than that; the last thing they want is for anyone to drive off the road. They will be
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addressing the view corridor coming from both directions when they go through the design
phase. There are other things they are looking into right now, he can’t tell us for sure that they’ll
be doing them, but for sure they will be doing radiant heat at least two car lengths long. With the
slope of the road, one of the concerns that they had on their own was in the winter with this
being a north facing driveway, they didn’t want cars sliding back or being unable to stop. They
are looking at options right now, and they don’t know how long they will carry that radiant heat
as it is not a requirement.
Chair Hollist asked if the radiant heat system will be maintained by the HOA since it’s a private
road.
Mr. Howland said it will all be set up with a separate meter for the HOA since they are private,
they will maintain it and pay for it through the HOA fees.
Chair Hollist asked for the slope of the road at its steepest point.
Mr. Howland said it’s 8%.
Chair Hollist asked for the applicant to confirm again that they will not, at any point, infringe on
the trail access.
Mr. Howland agreed they will not infringe on the trail or tunnel. Initially, city staff had them
coming through the trail with the launch trench, but both the county and staff looked at it again
and realized that with the size of the trench that didn’t need to happen, even during construction.
He noted that can be a condition if needed, to keep it clear at all times.
Commissioner Catmull said that years ago, he believes the plan was to come in off the circle and
down for access, where there is an easement, rather than off of Shields Lane. However, it was
discovered that because of the house built in that area, it might still be possible to do but not
feasible.
Mr. Howland said that they don’t want to go into that matter, it has become a civil matter
between the parties; they don’t want to make the city a party to that in any way, hopefully that
will be settled. Their plan is to move forward right now without even looking at accessing
through that property.
Commissioner Catmull noted that his point was there is a way to do it, there is an easement in
place, however the civil matter would have to be resolved before that could be accessed.
Mr. Howland said yes, there is an easement in place however the matter would have to be
resolved before the subdivision was built. Due to the unknowns and outcomes associated with
the matter, their preference was to look for a solution rather than going the legal route. They feel
they took the high road by immediately after having a restraining order put on their ability to
access through that property they started looking for alternatives to be able to develop the
Mumford Property. They don’t want to get into that, or for it to be a part of the city; they want
that to be a separate item that gets addressed by itself. To develop this subdivision they do not
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need access through West River Estates, specifically the property facing northwest and through
the two homes directly to the north; one is the Pettit’s home, the other is the Carr’s.
Chair Hollist opened the hearing for public comment.
Landon Allred (Representative of Pettit and Carr Families) said these two families own the
homes that back onto the Mumford Estates, just past the hammerhead. To address Commissioner
Catmull’s question, there is a preliminary injunction in place that prevents any development in
the easement for the time being, they don’t know how that’s going to end as they have to wait
until the end of litigation, but for now there is no construction allowed in the easement per court
order. He came to address one issue, and that is trail access. He has seen different versions of the
site plan that show trails drawn, usually they are shaded in with what looks like stone. However,
the site plan put up on the screen showed a sidewalk that he believes connected to the trail, but
the site plan that was sent out with the public notice doesn’t show any sidewalk. There is a
reference to a sidewalk north of lot 4 and it points to dotted lines, but the dotted lines are sewer
or water easements, they are not actually sidewalk. His understanding is that the city wants every
subdivision to have trail access, and in the different versions of this that he has seen sometimes
the trail access goes directly from the hammerhead next to lot 4 out to the trail, and in other
versions the access goes off the end of the hammerhead up through the Pettit’s and the Carr’s
homes to try and access Lazy Water Cove, hooking into a trail access that’s off the cul-de-sac.
As a friendly comment, the city should at least decide where the trail access is going to be if they
want to make sure there is trail access. He sits on the Sugarhouse Park Authority Board and they
work with county and city Parks and Rec, they say that the way to prevent bad actors is to make
sure that areas are frequently visited. If that’s the city’s thinking in trying to require subdivisions
to get trail access, you want to try and shuttle people towards the trail. If you plan it to go
through the easement through the Pettit’s and the Carr’s homes you can’t guarantee that; it can’t
be built right now and they aren’t sure how that’s going to end up at the end of litigation. Also,
they will create parallel trails, a trail next to the river and then an access for someone on a walk
or bike ride to cut through this Mumford Subdivision, through the easement, then on to Lazy
Water Cove and they will never be on the trail. If the point is to increase traffic on the trail for
safety or whatever reason, he would suggest having the trail go off the end of the hammerhead,
or to the northeast of the hammerhead next to lot 4, directly to the trail from Mumford Estates,
rather than trying to hook into Lazy Water Cove.
Chair Hollist closed the hearing to public comment. She asked staff to clarify what was brought
up during public comment.
Planner Drozdek said the reason they didn’t see the trail on the notice that went out was because
it had a subdivision plat on the back. He didn’t send out a site plan, which would show any
improvements on site; this was just showing property lines and any easements. There is a trail
access at the end of the hammerhead that goes out to the trail, there is no improvements being
made.
Chair Hollist asked if it was a sidewalk.
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Planner Drozdek said it is a paved access, it is also a private access that will not be open to the
public; the owners can open and close it to whoever they choose.
Chair Hollist asked if that is the only point of shared access from this development.
Planner Drozdek said the residents can put a gate on their fence for access, that is what some of
the homes to the north have done. This needs permission from the city, but it can be done for
access to the trail. There are two trailheads within a half mile to a mile to the north of this
project, this is the third access; again, it will be private and the other two accesses are public.
They feel there is enough access to the trail from this location.
Chair Hollist said she is assuming he is also counting the access to the south with the small
parking lot.
Planner Drozdek said that is an additional access on top of the two to the north.
Commissioner Catmull asked if there is a gate put on the northwest perimeter fence, and it’s
private access that can be closed, could we run into a situation where there is a gate in the fence
that is somehow closed by the development property owners.
Planner Drozdek said this access would be maintained by the HOA. The HOA could decide to
open or close it at their convenience.
Commissioner Catmull asked, even if the city approved a gate inside the fence, would that be
something separate from the actual access on to the private sidewalk.
Planner Drozdek said that is correct, that is something that will have to be worked out with our
Parks Department.
Commissioner Bevans asked staff about the other trail access with the small parking lot, is there
full visibility between where this road comes on to Shields Lane and where the subdivision
comes on. She wants to avoid issues with cars trying to both turn left at the same time and
crossing.
Planner Drozdek referred to one of the aerial photographs from the Staff Report and said the two
access points basically align with each other, and the grade is such that you can see across the
road, so it is not going to create any visibility issues. Where the private road meets Shields Lane,
there is a flat area for a car to stop and see what’s on the main road.
Chair Hollist invited Mr. Howland up if he had anything to add.
Mr. Howland was surprised at the question to begin with. Again, his statement was that this
development doesn’t take into account any use of the Pettit’s or the Carr’s properties for access.
They have planned all along to have a private access from lot 4 with a self closing gate and a
keypad. Right now, the owners of the HOA and their kids would have access. He is not sure if
the access fromPhase 4 has been moved, they had it in one place and then the builders who
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purchased the lots moved the access down closer to the end of the cul-de-sac; he believes that
was a public access. For access, the people off the Mumford Estates only have to go down
essentially one house and then they can go back up the access to get into West River Estates if
walking. Walking up through and between the Pettit’s and the Carr’s homes certainly isn’t
necessary as it isn’t any more of a walk than it is right now from the beginning of the
hammerhead over to the fence. Again, it is a private access, there will be a keypad on it, and that
was something the county wanted as they didn’t want it to be a public access where people cut
through to ensure privacy.
Chair Hollist said she can see the access to the north really is just two properties away, and she
asked if that was a public access that would then connect up to the road
Assistant City Attorney Greg Simonsen said he walks that trail almost every day and he
confirmed that is a public access that actually loops into the estates; there is another access a
little ways down that comes into the trail as well.
Planner Drozdek said that access is about two homes up.
Commissioner Catmull said this isn’t an ideal development because of the issues with the
easement to the northwest and how that developed, the roads being roughly aligned is not ideal
either. He remembers talking to Deputy City Engineer Jeremy Nielson about that when the
rezone was done and he seemed to feel like there are plenty of mitigating things that would
happen, and that the traffic count was so low going in to this new development that it wouldn’t
be a major problem. He has many reservations about this, but he sees nothing that is significant
enough for him to not approve it.
Commissioner Bevans echoed what Commissioner Catmull said.
Chair Hollist added that she agreed with everything Commissioner Catmull said, and she is
remembering the advice they were giving by Attorney Simonsen, representing the city as the
legal advisor, that sometimes it is not worth the fight. However, she wants to express that she is
disappointed that the easement was not honored, that this was not developed in a way that
allowed this parcel of land to still have access to public roads; she thinks this rather complicated
approach that she still has concerns about would not have been necessary. However, the way
their roles are defined they are not allowed to deny an application if the city staff is able to go
through and show that it meets all of our ordinances and requirements. Our Engineering
Department is here tonight and has expressed it has been passed through Fire and Planning and
met muster. Even though they have concerns about the grade, the safety on the edge of that road
as well as accessing Shields Lane safely, she doesn’t think they have the authority to deny.
Commissioner Bevans motioned to approve The Mumford Estates Preliminary Subdivision
Plat, File No. PLPP202100231. Chair Hollist seconded the motion; Roll Call vote was 3-0,
unanimous in favor. Commissioners Gedge and Darby were absent from the vote.
I.5. DISH COLLOCATION / PERFORMANCE PLACE TOWER
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT
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Location: 10246 S Redwood Road
File No.: PLCUP202200082
Applicant: Kate Hanstrom, Crown Castle
Planner Damir Drozdek reviewed background information from the Staff Report.
Chair Michele Hollist asked what prompted this application at this time.
Planner Drozdek said an application came in to do additional work on site, to add additional
antennae and replace or repair some ground equipment; due to compliance/noncompliance issues
we were unable to issue any more permits until they were fixed.
Chair Hollist asked if this will bring them into compliance with current code.
Planner Drozdek said yes.
Commissioner Steve Catmull asked whether the fencing material change could result in a
reduction noise.
Planner Drozdek said the existing site currently has chain-link fencing. This new material being
proposed meets the city masonry wall requirements and is a fence that has concrete on the
outside and around the edges, but the inside of the fence is filled with some type of foam.
Commissioner Catmull asked for details on the decibel levels allowed within a certain distance
of the tower, based on our wireless ordinance.
Planner Drozdek was not aware of the requirement, but he is sure the wall itself is not going to
make much difference in terms of noise.
Commissioner Catmull assumed that noise requirement would only be acted on if there was a
complaint regarding sound brought forth. It appears this is an upgrade from what is existing, as it
currently has a chain-link fence, and it will actually be quieter.
Chair Hollist asked if there were any homes close enough to be notified for this.
Planner Drozdek said notices went out, the closest ones are to the northwest and he believes two
of them were noticed and within 300 feet.
Commissioner Laurel Bevans asked if there are any parameters in place where if they hadn’t
come in with another application, we would have at some point called them back in. Do we have
anyone out looking for these compliance issues, or this just a one-time circumstance.
Planner Drozdek said they come in quite often to swap out antennae and do work on these sites.
Assistant City Attorney Greg Simonsen said he thinks we will be seeing more of these as we
have about 30 wireless sites in the city. There is a special body of law that goes well beyond our
city code to govern these, one is a federal law where they can come in and make an Existing
Facility Request (EFR). Rather than Sprint wanting to build a new tower, they would prefer to
hang a new array on an existing tower; the property owner likes when this happens because they
would collect more rent by having more carriers on the same facility. However, according the
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carriers, cities were delaying these requests so they went to congress. That law that was created,
and as interpreted by the FCC if you have an existing facility, and it’s not a substantial change to
the height as defined by the law, then it has to be approved. One reason we may not see some of
these here is because our code is set up to approve an EFR request through staff. This one is
coming before the commission because it’s a change to the conditional use permit, and he
believes they will see more of these in the future because to qualify as an existing facility it has
to have complied with the initial approval. All of the sudden, people who have not listened to the
city for years about building fences and other directions are having problems because they can’t
get their new approval until they comply.
Chair Hollist asked if this application would have been able to change things and comply with
the original requirements, versus the current code.
Attorney Simonsen said they possibly could have gone back and done that, but if they had,
according to the original approval, it would have been even more expensive.
Chair Hollist asked if there was a scenario that had made it less expensive to go back to the
original requirements originally agreed to 20 years ago, could they then argue they should only
have to comply with the lesser requirement.
Attorney Simonsen believes they could have probably done that. This application originally
came in last August and they are supposed to be processed under the EFR within 60 days, he
believes they were flummoxed by the city’s position and as a result, they have been on the phone
repeatedly; Attorney Simonsen has spoken with their counsel many times. This was basically
them giving in as they are not used to having to do what the city says anymore since the EFR
laws were brought in. Planner Drozdek and the rest of the planning department did a great job on
this, and we have a resolution that will be a good one for the city.
Commissioner Catmull asked how they went for around 13 years without fulfilling the
requirements; is there a gap there, or was there something missed by the city in terms of an
inspection.
Planner Drozdek said they will be looking into that. He thinks the reason this ended up here was
because they were not doing any inspections for these sites. They come in for the permit, we
issue the permit, and then there are no follow-up inspections like there are on homes or
commercial buildings.
Chair Hollist asked if there are follow-up inspections now.
Planner Drozdek said that’s something they are looking into and trying to decide the best way
going forward to avoid this situation again.
Attorney Simonsen said it would have been nice if there had been inspections, there is no
denying that. However, like a child that just won’t do what you say, the punishment that would
get them motivated is so Draconian that it doesn’t make sense. In this case, the only thing that
would probably motivate these people is shutting down the site and having a lot of people
without cell phone service. Them coming in and needing the city for once suddenly changes the
negotiating dynamic, and it gives us a chance to show them they need the city and they at least
need to go back and do what they originally committed to do.
Chair Hollist agreed with that policy, as she believes this was a site that benefited from not being
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seen.
Commissioner Catmull noted that he was asking about that because he wonders if we can or
should put a time window in which the conditions should be met on future conditional use
permits. He would love to be able to avoid this again with multiple years of noncompliance,
while recognizing that’s what they’re here for, to balance many interests, and he feels it’s
reasonable to expect within a set period of time to have compliance.
Attorney Simonsen understands and agrees with Commissioner Catmull, however, at the same
time they are pretty highly motivated to get this done at this point because they cannot get the
permit from their city to add on and they have a financial incentive tied to getting that EFR
granted.
Commissioner Catmull was speaking more generally, what about the next tower that gets built.
We will have to wait and see if this is a chronic problem.
Attorney Simonsen said these comments are timely as Director of Planning Steven
Schaefermeyer called a meeting today where staff, the city attorney, himself and Planner
Drozdek came up with what they felt was a good plan going forward to expedite these things.
The amount of time required of the legal department and planning staff that has to go into these
EFR requests is extensive, including researching what was originally approved, sometimes as far
back as 1998, and then having to deal with angry calls from all over the nation including recently
the president of DISH wireless. Attorney Simonsen doesn’t believe anyone else is doing what we
are going to do, but he predicts that sooner or later most cities will be following our lead.
Commissioner Bevans noted that, in reality, there could be a number of noncompliant sites in our
city currently, and there isn’t much we can do about it without making a lot of residents angry.
Chair Hollist opened the hearing for public comment.
Daniel Branch (Applicant) works for Crown Castle, and is a colleague of Kate Hanstrom who
wasn’t able to make it tonight. He thanked everyone for their time and appreciated the
conversation that just took place; we can work together to make all these sites compliant and
keep everyone happy.
Commissioner Catmull recognizes the tremendous value the wireless facilities provide to our city
and citizens, and he wanted to thank the staff as it appears this has been part of a months’ long
journey. This compromise feels like it has a balanced interest, and almost like a win-win for
everyone.
Chair Hollist added that City Council has noted on multiple occasions that cell phone reception
is the number one item they hear from citizens about.
Commissioner Catmull motioned to approve File No. PLCUP202200082, conditional use
permit amendment, replacing conditions 1 and 2 of the previously approved conditional
use permit CUP-2009.17 with the following conditions:
- Replace the existing wireless facility compound chain-link fencing with an eight foot
decorative faux masonry wall or faux stone wall. Fence materials shall be
RhinoRock concrete fencing, poly or similar core, wrapped with a fiber reinforced
concrete shell or approved equivalent at the City of South Jordan’s sole discretion.
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- Replace the existing chain-link gate with a sight obscuring solid gate that is a
maximum of 10 linear feet in width.
Chair Hollist seconded the motion; Roll Call vote was 3-0. Commissioners Gedge and
Darby were absent from the vote.
J. LEGISLATIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS
J.1. Resolution R2022-26, Adopting the City of South Jordan Annexation
Policy Plan
City Planner Greg Schindler reviewed background information from the Staff Report. The only
response received from an affected entity was from Rio Tinto/Kennecott, who asked us to delete
the second sentence in Section 5 of the proposed policy plan regarding post mine closure
recreation access; they didn’t want to “create false hope for the city or the public.” They also
attached a letter (Attachment A) indicating there is no telling when that mine will close and they
are having issues with people in current recreation areas near the mine property venturing onto
the property and getting closer to the mine operations currently. He indicated that staff had no
issue with deleting that statement from the policy plan, as it is a minor statement. Regarding page
6, Section 5, they would also like to insert the phrase “willing landowner” into the sentence
“annexing properties where there is a willing landowner would allow the city to ensure
appropriate development and protect important opportunities and resources in the Oquirrh
Mountains that can be provided to the city and its residents.” Staff also didn’t see any issues with
adding those two words to the noted section and will make the above noted changes.
Chair Michele Hollist asked if, with those changes, the map would stay the same.
Planner Schindler said the map would not change.
Chair Hollist noted that adopting this plan does not guarantee that any portion of this map will
automatically become a part of the city in the future. Each amendment will be considered
individually to make sure it has merit and fits with the plans for the city.
Planner Schindler noted that even if the city wants to annex a property, the landowner must be
willing to do so, per the state code. If that annexation is in the city’s best interest, the owner of
the property still has to be willing to be annexed; we can’t force that on anyone.
Commissioner Steve Catmull noted that he would love to see a regular refresh or update of this.
He suggested previously to Director of Planning Steven Schaefermeyer that perhaps this
becomes part of the General Plan update package in the future.
Planner Schindler said that was passed on to him as well, and that Director Schaefermeyer agrees
that would be a good thing to do.
Chair Hollist opened the hearing for public comments.
Shannon Ellsworth (Rio Tinto) didn’t intend to speak tonight, but thanked the staff for
incorporating Rio Tinto’s comments and ideas.
Chair Hollist closed the public hearing. She indicated that she was okay with the changes
suggested this evening.
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Commissioner Laurel Bevans asked if when sending the recommendation forward they need to
word it to include what is being amended.
Planner Schindler said they could make the motion to recommend approval to the city council
for the resolution, including the changes to the plan as discussed.
Attorney Simonsen thinks the actual letter from Rio Tinto would be appropriate to add the
record.
Planner Schindler noted that he hasn’t sent a copy to the recorder’s office yet, but they will have
that done (Attachment A).
Director of Planning Steven Schaefermeyer thanked Ms. Ellsworth for her attendance and
comments. He will send a copy of the letter from Rio Tinto to the recorder’s office and agrees
that noting the changes to the policy plan in the motion would be appropriate.
Commissioner Bevans motioned to recommend approval to the city council for Resolution
R2022-26, adopting the City of South Jordan Annexation Policy Plan, including the
changes discussed this evening. Chair Hollist seconded the motion; Roll Call vote was 3-0,
unanimous in favor. Commissioners Gedge and Darby were absent from the vote.
K. OTHER BUSINESS
City Planner Greg Schindler said he was unsure what the meeting in two weeks will look like, he
believes Planner Ian Harris may have an item planned for that week however things can change
between now and Thursday, when they send out their notices.
Chair Michele Hollist asked Assistant City Attorney Greg Simonsen if the next meeting would
be an appropriate time to do some training if the agenda is looking light. She knows
Commissioner Nathan Gedge will be at the next meeting, but he will not be at the first meeting
in June.
Attorney Simonsen noted that he will be out of town for the next meeting, but City Attorney
Ryan Loose will be here and he will discuss options with him and Director of Planning Steven
Schaefermeyer.
Chair Hollist noted that they would only want to add the training to a lighter agenda.
Director Schaefermeyer said they can look at doing some sort of training at the next meeting. He
will communicate with Attorney Loose, and noted there is plenty they can do that is less legal in
nature and would meet the requirements if Attorney Loose is unable to participate. Also, the city
council discussed during their last meeting making the alternate planning commissioner a full-
fledged commissioner. This would mean that rather than having a five member commission, City
Council has asked them to explore having a six person commission with all members having the
ability to vote every time. They want to solve this issue quickly with summer coming, so there
will be an effort to get something on the agenda for the next meeting. He thinks those changes
will be fairly simple and straightforward.
Commissioner Laurel Bevans thanked the staff for all their hard work, she knows it takes long
hours to get to this point and they very much appreciates everything they do.
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ADJOURNMENT
Chair Hollist motioned to adjourn the May 10, 2022 Planning Commission meeting.
Commissioner Bevans seconded the motion; vote was unanimous in favor. Commissioners
Gedge and Darby were absent from the vote.
The May 10, 2022 Planning Commission Meeting adjourned at 8:17 p.m.
Meeting minutes were prepared by Deputy Recorder Cindy Valdez
This is a true and correct copy of the May 10, 2022 Planning Commission minutes, which
were approved on May 24, 2022.
Cindy Valdez
Deputy Recorder
Rio Tinto Kennecott
4700 Daybreak Parkway
South Jordan, Utah 84095
+1 (801) 204-2000
On behalf of Rio Tinto we appreciate the opportunity to frequently collaborate and coordinate with
South Jordan City. We send this letter in response to the published draft annexation policy plan.
Rio Tinto has a strong track record as a community partner supporting various non-profits and local
organizations through the Kennecott Foundation. Rio Tinto has been a proactive supporter of economic
development in the Salt Lake Valley. We have facilitated trails access in Butterfield Canyon, and we
donated Rio Tinto water rights which now flow to the Jordan River and into the Great Salt Lake for the
next ten years, benefitting habitat and wildlife. While Rio Tinto property is privately held, we have
shown a commitment to improving the community by addressing issues with air quality, the
environment, recreation, and as a long-standing partner and taxpayer.
In light of the proposed draft annexation policy plan our primary concerns for Rio Tinto land have been
centered on safety and industry.
1) Rio Tinto values safety at every level of our organization.
a) Trespassing has been an issue in Butterfield Canyon and elsewhere when people have wandered
into reclamation areas and active mining operations. We have tried to prevent trespassing
recreators along our tailings pipeline corridor, as well as people discharging firearms on our
property.
b) Over the coming decades, as the City’s and the County’s populations are projected to grow, we
want to reduce risk to both those working in active mining zones and those recreating by
separating incompatible uses and discouraging trespassing.
c) We do not want to set an expectation that Rio Tinto Kennecott land is accessible or safe, by
classifying it for recreation or conservation, which could promote further trespassing, vandalism,
and physical endangerment.
d) Rio Tinto is adamant about protecting the health, safety, and welfare of citizens and employees
in the area, and we hope to find ways to partner with South Jordan City to that end.
2) Rio Tinto Kennecott has a strong business plan and intends to operate for the foreseeable future.
a) Rio Tinto is the world’s second largest mining and minerals company. Rio Tinto Kennecott has
been operating in the Salt Lake Valley since 1903 and is the second highest producing copper
mine in the U.S.
b) We aim to continue to operate the Kennecott mine, concentrator, and smelter for the
foreseeable future. Accordingly, decisions about the use of Kennecott’s land for mining and then
closure activities will continue to be made over coming decades.
c) Although the current approved life of mine for Bingham Canyon is 2032, Kennecott’s mine
planning team is always looking at options to continue to grow and develop the mine for
decades to come. Immediate plans are underway to expand unit production of copper,
molybdenum, gold, and silver underground, and to reprocess tellurium.
Rio Tinto Kennecott
4700 Daybreak Parkway
South Jordan, Utah 84095
+1 (801) 204-2000
d) We are certain that copper is and will continue to be an essential mineral in supporting a
national and global transition to green energy. As the US moves towards a green economy Rio
Tinto Kennecott will support domestic supply.
e) We aren’t sure when closure will take place, nor do we understand every constraint that will
exist at that time, but we are under significant obligations from our regulators to carefully
manage safety and environmental health.
f) When land is no longer critical to mining operations Rio Tinto has a strong track record of both
reclamation and context-sensitive development, as illustrated at the award-winning master-
planned community Daybreak. Safe and beneficial re-use of mining land is a hallmark of
responsible mining, and this will mean different uses in different areas based on a myriad of
regulatory and environmental factors.
3) Rio Tinto supports private property rights which protect our investments, make South Jordan City
business-friendly, and support a global economy.
a) We believe it is important to protect industrial and mining uses as land uses that can deliver
economic benefits for the State of Utah, and we support future land uses and annexation
policies that accurately represent Rio Tinto and allow flexibility.
b) We hope that South Jordan City will support current and future economic drivers. Government’s
support for industry and commerce facilitates our ability to directly employ more than 2,000
Utahns.
c) We support clarification of statements and policies that create false expectations for the public
and current and future elected officials on the utility of and access to Rio Tinto land. As our
business plan evolves and as we make decisions, we are open to conversations with the City and
its stakeholders.
We expect this will be an ongoing conversation over the weeks, months, and years ahead, and we are
committed to being at the table. We share your goals of creating a healthy, safe, and business-friendly
community.
Gaby Poirier, Rio Tinto Kennecott Managing Director
Agenda
CITY OF SOUTH JORDAN
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AGENDA
CITY HALL
TUESDAY, MAY 10, 2022 at 6:30 PM
Notice is hereby given that the South Jordan City Planning Commission will hold a Planning Commission
Meeting on Tuesday, May 10, 2022, in the City Council Chambers, located at 1600 W. Towne Center
Drive, South Jordan, Utah with an electronic option via Zoom phone and video conferencing. Persons
with disabilities who may need assistance should contact the City Recorder at least 24 hours prior to this
meeting.
In addition to in-person attendance, individuals may join via phone or video, using Zoom. Note, attendees
joining virtually may make public comments through video conferencing, and participant must have their
video on and working to speak. Attendees who wish to present photos or documents to the Planning
Commission must attend in person. Those who join via phone may listen, but not comment.
In the event the electronic portion of the meeting is disrupted in any way that the City in its sole discretion
deems inappropriate, the City reserves the right to immediately remove the individual(s) from the meeting
and, if needed, end virtual access to the meeting. Reasons for removing an individual or ending virtual
access to the meeting include but are not limited to the posting of offensive pictures, remarks, or making
offensive statements, disrespectful statements or actions, and other any action deemed inappropriate.
Ability to participate virtually is dependent on an individual’s internet connection. To ensure comments
are received regardless of technical issues, please have them submitted in writing to Planner III, Damir
Drozdek, at ddrozdek@sjc.utah.gov by 3:00 p.m. on the day of the meeting.
Instructions on how to join the meeting virtually are below.
Join South Jordan Planning Commission Electronic Meeting May 10, 2022 at 6:30 p.m.
- Join on any device that has internet capability.
- Zoom link, Meeting ID and Meeting Password will be provided 24 hours prior to meeting start time.
- Zoom instructions are posted https://www.sjc.utah.gov/254/Planning-Commission
THE MEETING WILL BEGIN AT 6:30 P.M. AND THE AGENDA IS AS FOLLOWS:
A. WELCOME AND ROLL CALL – Commission Vice Chair Nathan Gedge
B. MOTION TO APPOINT A COMMISSIONER TO CONDUCT THE MAY 10, 2022
MEETING
C. MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA
D. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
D.1. April 26, 2022 Planning Commission Meeting
E. STAFF BUSINESS
F. COMMENTS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS
G. SUMMARY ACTION
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H. ACTION
I. ADMINISTRATIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS
I.1. WALMART FUEL STATION SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
Location: 3590 W South Jordan Parkway
File No: PLSPR202100290
Applicant: Antonio Flores
I.2. RIDGECREST ESTATES SUBDIVISION AMENDMENT
Location: 892 W Brookcrest Circle
File No: PLPLA202100128
Applicant: Jerry Ohrn
I.3. COUSINS LANE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION
Location: 2726 W Cousins Lane
File No: PLPP202100283
Applicant: Jay Mortensen
I.4. MUMFORD ESTATES PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT
Location: 972 W Shields Ln.
File No: PLPP202100231
Applicant: Tina Franco, Howland Partners Inc.
I.5. DISH COLLOCATION / PERFORMANCE PLACE TOWER CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT AMENDMENT
Location: 10246 S Redwood Rd.
File No: PLCUP202200082
Applicant: Kate Hanstrom, Crown Castle
J. LEGISLATIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS
J.1. Resolution R2022-26 – Adopting the City of South Jordan Annexation Policy Plan
K. OTHER BUSINESS
ADJOURNMENT
CERTIFICATE OF POSTING
STATE OF UTAH )
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COUNTY OF SALT LAKE )
I, Cindy Valdez, certify that I am the duly appointed City Deputy Recorder of South Jordan City,
State of Utah, and that the foregoing Planning Commission Agenda was faxed or emailed to the
media at least 24 hours prior to such meeting, specifically the Deseret News, Salt Lake Tribune
and the South Valley Journal. The Agenda was also posted at City Hall, on the City’s website
www.sjc.utah.gov and on the Utah Public Notice Website www.pmn.utah.gov.
Dated this 5th day of May, 2022.
Cindy Valdez
South Jordan City Deputy Recorder
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