Planning Commission Meeting - ARCHIVED
Regular MeetingSouth Jordan, UT · June 28, 2022
Minutes
CITY OF SOUTH JORDAN
ELECTRONIC
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
June 28, 2022
Present: Chair Michele Hollist, Commissioner Nathan Gedge, Commissioner Steven
Catmull, Commissioner Trevor Darby, Assistant City Attorney Greg Simonsen,
City Planner Greg Schindler, City Recorder Anna Crookston, Planner Ian Harris,
Planner Damir Drozdek, Deputy City Engineer Jeremy Nielson, Senior IS Tech
Phill Brown, IT Director Jon Day, GIS Coordinator Matt Jarman, Meeting
Transcriptionist Diana Baun
Absent: Commissioner Laurel Bevans
Others: B.A. Wands, Nile Thacker, Gloria Thacker, Allen LeBaron, Rod Staten, Barbara
Ashton, John Ashton, Sheron Fitch, Ralph Dabling, Clive Watson, Mary Jo
Dabling, Lori Holford, Cheryl Call, Brian and Jennifer Boice, Roger and Bobbie
Baird, Jenkins, Amber Powell, Brandon Powell, Tim & Vicki Wood, Angelina
Wermel, Shaun Packard, Tyler Packard, Denai Packard, Jacob Barzee, Barbara
Ann Warnick, Gary Monteer, Michelle Cameron
6:32 P.M.
REGULAR MEETING
A. WELCOME AND ROLL CALL – Chair Michele Hollist
Commission Chair Michele Hollist welcomed everyone to the Electronic Planning Commission
Meeting. She excused Commissioner Bevans and noted that they have four member of the
commission available to vote.
B. MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA
Commissioner Gedge motioned to approve tonight’s agenda as printed and published.
Chair Hollist seconded the motion; vote was unanimous in favor. Commissioner Bevans
was absent from the vote.
C. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
C.1. June 14, 2022 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes
Chair Michele Hollist noted that the June 14, 2022 minutes did not have a “draft” watermark.
City Recorder Anna Crookston noted that we will make sure that is added to future minutes.
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Commissioner Darby motioned to approve the June 14, 2022 Planning Commission
Meeting Minutes with the correction as noted. Chair Hollist seconded the motion; vote was
unanimous in favor. Commissioner Bevans was absent from the vote.
D. STAFF BUSINESS – None
E. COMMENTS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBNERS – None
Chair Michele Hollist attended the city council meeting last week, they had to table the
ordinance amendment heard by the planning commission the week before. That will be reviewed
at their next meeting and the mayor anticipates she will have a nominee for the planning
commission to replace Mr. Peirce for the next meeting. The mayor also indicated that she would
like to resume having a joint session with the planning commission once a year, with the date to
be determined.
F. SUMMARY ACTION – None
G. ACTION – None
H. ADMINISTRATIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS
H.1. THE DAWN AT DAYBREAK CONDOMINIUMS PLATS 1-3
PRELIMINARY CONDOMINIUM PLAT
Address: 11281 S., 11309 S. and 11333 S. Lake Run Road
File No.: PLPP202200029
Applicant: Daybreak Communities
City Planner Greg Schindler reviewed background information from the Staff Report.
Chair Michele Hollist read the statement drafted by our Assistant City Attorney Greg Simonsen
regarding Daybreak, to help the public understand what their role as the planning commission is
and the limits/discretions they have as far as approving/denying project.
“Development agreements are a common development tool utilized by cities and
developers to govern projects that are expensive and often long term. Development
agreements allow all stakeholders in the project, including homeowners, to have an
understanding of their obligations and what the project will look like when built out. In
the City of South Jordan we have Daybreak, one of the largest planned communities in
the country. Development of Daybreak would have been impossible without the master
development agreement signed in 2003 by the city and the developer. The Master
development agreement is recorded, and therefore an encumbrance on every square foot
of the project. Any person purchasing property in Daybreak is made aware of the master
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development agreement because it appears on the title report for each buyer. This
document continues to govern development in Daybreak, up to the latest approvals.
When any land use matter in Daybreak, or other project governed by a development
agreement, comes before the planning commission or city council, the project must be
evaluated not just according to applicable laws, but also according to the terms of the
development agreement. This limits what these governing bodies can do, they must
comply with the development agreement as well as the ordinances. Hence, if the
developer desires, for example, to build a three story high density building across the
street from single family homes, and it is permitted by the development agreement, the
governing bodies do not have the ability to modify or deny the proposal unless both the
city and the developer agree. Although development agreements limit discretion of the
planning commission, public hearings assure compliance with the ordinances and
development agreement, and inform the public about future development.”
Chair Hollist also noted that the commission received a few emails, one from Mr. Brian Boice
(Attachment C) and one from Ms. Felicity Wightwick (Attachment B). Those emails have been
reviewed by the planning commission and she has noted their questions which will be answered
by staff after public comment. She invited the applicant, if present, to come forward and add any
information.
Assistant City Attorney Greg Simonsen was confused on who the applicant is. The report says
the applicant is Daybreak Communities, however he understood Planner Schindler to say
something different. Before going too far, he needs to know who the applicant is exactly.
Planner Schindler said that in the submittal, it listed both the architect and Daybreak
Communities, but in that case it was Perigee Consulting as the engineer for the project. He listed
Daybreak Communities, as our City View System only recognizes Perigee Consulting as
Daybreak Communities, even though that doesn’t exist anymore.
Attorney Simonsen asked the applicant who he represents.
Rod Staten (Applicant – Weekly Homes) represents the owner of the land of the three
proposed lots, David Weekly Homes (Weekly Homes).
Attorney Simonsen asked if Mr. Staten was saying that he is authorized to represent Daybreak
Communities in this matter.
Mr. Staten said he does not represent Daybreak Communities, he represents Weekly Homes.
Attorney Simonsen wants to make sure that when they are setting aside time for the applicant to
come up before the planning commission, that they truly have the applicant here. He is not trying
to cause Mr. Staten problems, he is just not understanding the relationship.
Mr. Staten said it appears that when the application was filed by Perigee, as the engineer that
prepared the documents, they also have done quite a bit of work for others including many plats
in Daybreak. Perigee was hired by the architectural firm that Weekly Homes hired, to prepare
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their documents for this. It appears that the form said Daybreak Homes and Perigee.
Attorney Simonsen asked to clarify that Weekly Homes has title to the property.
Mr. Staten responded yes.
Attorney Simonsen asked to have the record show that Weekly Homes is here, and that he
assumes Mr. Staten is of one mind with the applicant and the application that has been submitted,
and that he is here to advocate that same application.
Mr. Staten said that is correct.
Attorney Simonsen said that answers his questions sufficiently.
Chair Hollist asked if Mr. Simonsen felt they were on good legal footing to proceed.
Attorney Simonsen said yes, he believes they are.
Mr. Staten thanked the commission for reviewing and considering their application, they are
grateful for the opportunity to be part of Daybreak. They have been building in Daybreak for
many years, and look forward to continuing to do the same. They will certainly be listening to,
and preparing to respond as able to, comments and questions.
Chair Hollist opened the hearing for public comments.
Brian Boice (Resident) said it would be wonderful if they were going to have a park there, or
townhomes that were the same size as everything else. There probably isn’t much they can do
with the four stories, but what he would like to address is the entrance and exit of all those
townhomes. They are not going to go out on to Lake Run Road, which is where everybody is
going to want to go in order to get to Mountain View Corridor or 11400 S, or whatever road they
are going to go on. All that traffic, over 100 cars a day, will be dumped on to Jonagold Drive into
a retirement community. They have people in walkers, people on scooters, and they have golf
carts occasionally, and it’s just not that safe for them. It wouldn’t be that hard to put an exit and
an entrance on Lake Run Road. That will be the address of the buildings, that’s where the
entrance and exit should be, instead of the alleys that go in back of their townhouses.
Sheron Fitch (Resident) lives in Garden Park Village, which is a 55 and older senior
community. When they purchased their home in 2018 to be built, they were shown the map of
what would take in Garden Park. The little strip that Weekly Homes wants to build on now
evidently was sold to them by Ivory Homes; she feels like Ivory Homes sold them out because
she lives very close to where those condos will be built. They had understood when they bought
it that it would be continuing to build townhouses back to back, like is already there in Garden
Park; that was rather deceiving. The traffic going up Lake Run Road is horrendous now, that
used to be the way they would most often come in and enter their community, but now it’s
dangerous because there are cars parked on both sides of Lake Run. The roads in Daybreak are
made narrow on purpose so the traffic won’t be going too fast; however, it’s almost a one way
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road many times during the day. With all these condos being built, and she would suspect that
each condo would probably have two cars, this will just add to this problem. As Mr. Boice
pointed out, it is going to be a danger for this senior community to have all of these cars exiting
from their garages, which will face the back of the townhouses that are part of Garden Park, and
they will all come out onto Jonagold which is a very narrow road. They are really quite unhappy
with Weekly Homes that they wouldn’t have enough consideration for a quiet senior community
to plan something that’s more fitting to be back to back with this quiet community. It’s a quiet
neighborhood, and now with hundreds more moving in, backing up right against them, it will no
longer be what they paid a lot of money for, for a quiet senior community. They request that
Weekly Homes reevaluate what they are doing and consider the hundreds of seniors that live in
that area, in their last home before they end up at the cemetery; they hope Weekly Homes will
have respect for them and change their plans. They do request that Weekly Homes eliminate the
top layer too, so they don’t feel like they are living in the middle of a city with high rise
apartments around them.
Alan LeBaron (Resident) lives one house, but one away, from what will be the back of the
development. He thinks there is something that the commission should take into consideration,
and he wants to repeat, in effect, what has just been said, at least the first part. He noted that all
of the stuff about Daybreak online or anywhere else talks about villages. Each village having its
own vision and some guidelines within it that are formal, what’s going to go on or what they
think they’re doing in that village; Garden Park is one of them, and the one just next to them
would be South Station or whatever it’s called. He just wants to suggest first that whatever has
been formalized with how South Station Village operates, to make sure that this proposal lies
inside of that village; he assumes they will be inside that village as they are not inside of Garden
Park. It’s kind of queer that they will be buttressing an area that has its certain vision, up against
this other one that has just been described, that is supposed to be quiet. The roads were laid out
deliberately to make it hard to get in to Garden Park; you can’t hardly get in from the east, you
can get in a little bit better from the west, and a little from the south. The roads are narrow, they
have all kinds of restrictions to slow people down. They have all kinds of little rules about being
quiet, and every other thing along that kind of a nature. He doesn’t expect people that buy into
condominiums to have that exact kind of vision about how their lives are going to be. He doesn’t
know where the children are supposed to play in these condominiums.
Chair Hollist informed Mr. LeBaron that he has used his three minutes, and allowed him 15
seconds to finish up.
Mr. LeBaron just wanted to say that it’s difficult for the commission, but they need to take into
account jamming one kind of a vision and allowing it to maybe physically overlap this other
vision that was perfectly acceptable in its time and place.
Cheryl Call (Resident) lives in Garden Park Village and has three maps in her hand
(Attachment F) that she studied very, very intently when she moved in. She moved in the Spring
of 2018, and at that time from all the maps it showed that Garden Park Village, a 55+
community, reached to Lake Run Road. Now all of a sudden this last year they’ve been told that
there is going to be condominiums and family dwellings. When she planned and chose her lot,
she thought that she would have a two lot area before getting to Lake Run with people of her
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same age, interests, and desire to have a quiet community; that has been changed drastically. She
would like to encourage Weekly Homes to reconsider what they’re building there as well. When
she moved in, the fall afterwards and several months after, there was a playground put in by
Daybreak that was less than a half a block away with fire pits that brought a lot of people,
children running around the berms, all in front of her home. It is just changing the whole feeling
of what she thought she was moving to. She taught school for 27 years, she loves children, but
she moved here, like Sharon did, with this being her last home before she goes on the other side
someday. It is just a totally different feeling than what she thought it would be; more noise, more
things happening there than she ever imagined. These three maps (Attachment F) showed that
Garden Park went clear to Lake Run, and that’s why she bought her home and chose the lot that
she did.
Commissioner Nathan Gedge asked Ms. Call who published/commissioned the three maps she
brought.
Ms. Call replied they say “Daybreak,” and she believes it was the Daybreak Community. She has
three of them going back to 2016, and all of them show Garden Park going right to Lake Run
Road.
Commissioner Gedge asked staff to confirm these were not city produced literature.
Planner Schindler replied that no, they are not.
Barbara Ann Warnick (Resident) was asked to also speak for the Abbotts, who live on Black
Twig. He is incapacitated and she didn’t feel she could leave him. They feel that they made good
decisions with the information they had when they chose to move in to Garden Park at Daybreak.
A 55+ place was how it was presented. There has been the lots right along Lake Run Road that
haven’t been developed in Garden Park yet for the seniors, or more homes or townhomes.
Characteristically, if you haven’t driven in that community, they are one or two story townhomes
and she can testify that she wakes up during the night with speeding cars going down Lake Run
Road. She hears every time the fire engine goes down, except at night they don’t run their siren.
She moved from North Carolina, after retirement, to be with family close by who live in the
North Shore community. She is very happy with her home, she got exactly what she wanted with
windows to the west. She has pictures, not every day, but since she moved in the middle of July
2019, where she has watched development of the apartments Phase 1, now they are doing the
infrastructure for Phase 2 to bring it up to Black Twig. She has watched the townhouses right
across the street that are three stories, and on the other side they put a street in with another
builder doing condos and huge buildings over there. She moved to be in a quiet, 55+
neighborhood, and it is dangerous on Lake Run Road with parking from the apartments and
sometimes the townhomes that exist have a visitor that parks there. For safety, she asks the
commission to bring this to law enforcement and first responders, to change the parking. She
hopes that Weekly Homes can understand their wishes; they want to welcome neighbors, but
they want neighbors that are going to be compatible.
John Ashton (Resident) asked the council to take some time and drive around the Garden Park
area. They would see that when it was developed, there was a buffer between the 55+ community
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and the rest of the community. There is at least a major road, and in many places there are
actually greenbelts that divide the 55+ community from the non-55+ community. That’s what
they really looked at when they made the decision to go to Garden Park. With this plan, suddenly
the buffer between the 55+ community and the non-55+ community is a shared alleyway, and it
just isn’t going to work. The other thing for the commission’s consideration, the drawings and
plans really look beautiful, but what they really fail to address is what’s on the other side of that
shared alley. He has taken some pictures (Attachment E) that show the townhomes on the flip
side of that shared alley don’t match the architecture at all as to what’s being planned by Weekly
Homes. He really thinks the commission needs to consider, even though it may make all the dots
and crosses all the T’s, to what the guidelines are; those guidelines have changed since he moved
in, and the commission really needs to give some consideration to the people that are already in
this community.
Lori Holford (Resident) is about one house and a townhome from where the new condos are
going to be built. She has been sitting here trying to come up with a way to convince the
commission not to do this, but they stated at the very beginning the explanation behind the
Daybreak Master Plan. That may have been on her title papers when she signed it, but nobody
explained what that meant; that it meant they can give you all the marketing material you want,
but they can change anything they want to once you’ve paid them all that money. She doesn’t
think anyone would even be here today from Garden Park if they would have just followed what
they said they were going to do in all of their advertising to them. It may not have been a city
map, but she hopes that the city would support its citizens when they are being conned and
scammed, because they feel that way. Ever since she moved in, everything from telling her that
there will be retention ponds across her house which is now a playground for little kids. She has
grandchildren, she will walk to the playgrounds, she doesn’t want them playing outside her
house. She spent 60 years loving that, but she doesn’t now. She moved to Garden Park because
she wanted it to be a quiet neighborhood. She wants the commission to see where she is coming
from, that when they say they want it to be what they were told, it’s not like they’re saying you
can’t build across the street. They are saying these condos are right in the backyard of these
townhomes that are there, and why can’t the developer just go back and build a 55+ condo unit,
and then start the big, huge five story condos and townhomes across the street. She asked if there
is an ombudsman that’s available through South Jordan City to see what they have been conned
into believing, that their Garden Park 55+ community was going to be a nice, quiet place to
retire.
Nile Thacker (Resident) said he is not within the 300 feet of the three lots being proposed right
now, but the next phase will be right in his backyard. He addressed Commissioner Gedge and
said that he had asked if the maps were from Daybreak or the city, then Mr. Thacker asked what
the master plan was from the city proposed for that area; has it changed?
Commissioner Gedge said that will be one of the questions they ask staff following citizen
comments.
Mr. Thacker said he would really like to know. Regarding the three maps that were shown
(Attachment F) from Daybreak, he is curious whether they would produce maps that were
different from the master plan.
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Ralph Dabling (Resident) shared a pictures of a map, and the parking situation with the
commission (Attachment G). A number of years ago, the South Jordan City Council approved a
portion of Daybreak to become a 55 year old community. The following is part of the
advertisement that they all received:
“Garden Park at Daybreak is a luxurious 55+ community located in South Jordan, Utah,
conveniently close to Salt Lake City. The community is part of the larger master planned
Daybreak Community, providing residents with access to a number of amenities and
activities within Daybreak. Residents of the Garden Park at Daybreak can enjoy facilities,
amenities, and stay active with a number of outings and activities planned by the
community.”
Mr. Dabling continued by noting that, as you can see, the residents of Garden Park were
promised a 55+ year old community by the owners of Daybreak. They bought homes here with
the expectations that they would be living in a community that was built to handle the needs and
desires of those in retirement or close to it. Per the maps discussed, Garden Park had boundaries,
they were all shown those boundaries, and they expected Garden Park to honor those boundaries.
They had space between all other areas to act as buffers from noise and traffic. They were told
that townhomes and small condo units would be built on this property under discussion, and that
they would be for 55+ years and part of Garden Park. After 500 retirees have made the
investment into their retirement homes, Daybreak informed them that they would be taking away
part of Garden Park land and building condos for the general public instead of Garden Park
residents. In fact, the units to be built will be using driveways that go through Garden Park.
These new buildings will be the width of a driveway from Garden Park. They will no longer
have a space between the retirees and those just starting out in life. The difference in age groups
will cause many issues, those that are retired and going to bed at 9:00 p.m. are not much
interested in having a community across the driveway that has a much busier lifestyle. It’s not
wrong, just noisier and busier. This is why they bought homes in the retirement area, so they
could be in an area that had the same needs and desires of their neighborhood. They would ask
Weekly Homes, who is a fantastic builder, that this become part of Garden Park, and that the
residents that go in there, go under the rules and regulations of Garden Park.
Commissioner Gedge asked if there is a way to share the images from Attachment G and other
members of the public, so that those in the chamber and on Zoom can see them.
Attorney Simonsen said he wants to make sure that anything projected and considered is part of
the record. If the residents come up to speak and then take their images they discussed back to
their seats, they will not be considered part of the record. Those images need to be extra copies
that can be left with the recorder if they want them considered as part of the public record.
Ms. Call provided pictures to submit as part of the record (Attachment F).
Commissioner Trevor Darby noted that on Attachment G there is a typed statement that says
“area under review,” and confirmed with Mr. Dabling that he did not add that text.
Mr. Ashton came back up and asked to project those images for everyone to see.
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Commissioner Gedge motioned to invited Mr. Ashton back up and present his evidence
discussed during his comments. Chair Hollist seconded the motion; vote was unanimous.
Commissioner Bevans was absent from the vote.
Mr. Ashton projected his images and described what they are (Attachment E), those descriptions
are included in the attachment.
The maps from Attachment F were projected for those in the chamber and on Zoom to see.
Chair Hollist asked if there were members of the public who still wished to comment, and some
hands were raised, so she chose to continue with public comment, rather than closing it for the
commission to discuss. She added that if member of the public had already spoken to the
commission, and had additional questions, she directed them to speak with one of the city
staffers while they project the maps.
Commissioner Gedge asked if it would be appropriate to invite the next public commenter up
while the images are being projected for those who wish to view them.
Chair Hollist asked Commissioner Catmull if he could handle looking at the maps on Zoom
while listening to public comment.
Commissioner Catmull said yes, but asked to see Lake Run on the map from Attachment F. Once
that was shown, he noted that the map is stamped as “Daybreak Materials.”
Attorney Simonsen noted that a citizen had approached staff, and he is not sure that they should
be having conversations off the record.
Commissioner Gedge said he will motion to allow those who already spoke a second chance if
needed, after everyone else has had a chance to speak for the first time.
Tyler Packard (Resident) echoed what everybody prior to him has said, that there are some
major concerns. He was definitely surprised to get the notification that they will be putting 63
units in this 1.5 acre space. He and his wife just recently moved in with their seven month old
son and they are planning on staying there for the long haul with the way the market is going
right now. They are concerned about preserving that community feel and that whatever goes in
there maintains a similar feel to what exists on the opposite side of that development lot, which is
exactly where they are; they are directly opposite from the photos that were just shown on Lake
Run Road (Attachment E). What’s going to be developed will be directly in their front yard. He
has two major concerns, one being that if you are driving north on Lake Run Road from
Daybreak Parkway, you slowly get more and more of this parking lot. It becomes more and more
of a parking lot on either side of the road, and then it is nearly a single lane road at that point. He
has concerns about safety for children, elderly folks that are walking on the sidewalk, and just
that the density of this new development relative to what’s currently existing there on the east
and west side of this development does not match. They are talking about 63 units, compared to
three story townhomes on the west side of Lake Run Road and two story townhomes and condos
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in the Garden Park Senior Community. He doesn’t think these four story condo units, despite
what the math may say, matches the density, feel and style of the current existing neighborhood
and community there.
Amber Powell (Resident) wanted to say that she actually lives in a pretty tall townhome, it’s not
one of the two story ones that you’d find in Garden Park, but that’s because she doesn’t live in
Garden Park. She could understand how if you lived in Garden Park, you’d be pretty concerned
with hearing there is a four story condo going up. From her view, this is part of Garden Park and
she wanted to echo what everyone else was saying, that she also was told when she moved in
three years ago that this area was part of Garden Park. This is right across the street from her and
when she moved in they told her it was Garden Park. She also has a question about a space next
to the development that was shown on the map included in the Staff Report, with some squares
designed into it, and she wanted to know what that was supposed to be because that is directly
across the street from her.
Jacob Barzee (Resident) noted that this is his first time attending one of these meetings since he
was 14, so if he breaks rules please let him know. He is really happy to see the other community
turn out here because he honestly expected he would be one of the few. He thinks they all made a
great point, and he hopes to elucidate one thing in particular that he thinks all of them are
seeking to say. There is no precedent in Daybreak for this kind of transition between housing.
The transitions between housing are all pretty commonly from one story to two story to three
story, from low density to medium density to higher density; he doesn’t know what those
officially mean within the city limit. He thinks that this planning clearly does not fit there, and
he, like the other residents, was handed the same marketing materials which are available at the
Daybreak offices to the public when you buy your house. He would assume that at this point it
has changed, but also wouldn’t be surprised if you co go in and pick up the same map today.
With that particular item called out, he would like to go over the sum total of what he’s heard
today because he thinks it’s important. There are logistical problems with this development that
he hasn’t heard considered, and weren’t documented in terms of the letter that they were sent;
from parking, traffic, noise and especially pedestrian safety. He thinks there are communal issues
that are important to consider, especially those who bought houses there under the precedent of it
being a retirement community and developed further in that form. He thinks, that by Daybreak
selling this land and not regulating the way it’s developed like it has the others, it is being
deceptive; it’s clearly deceptive considering their marketing. Though he knows we aren’t here to
talk specifically about Daybreak, he thinks it’s fine to let that fly under the radar. He thinks it’s a
little hard to recognize the fact that there may be no explicit rules against this at the city level,
but from the way he sees it, the city, and particularly the commissioners, are here to protect the
citizens. When he considers how he would like to see the citizens protected, including himself,
he thinks it would be important that this development is at least some amount of a transition
between the two neighborhoods, if not matching the neighborhoods it was proposed to be in at
the beginning. He also encouraged Weekly Homes to do the same, he thinks it would be a great
way to be a part of the community. Daybreak is a special place, and everyone that moved there
recognized that and they looked for that. He really appreciates people who build things, and our
communities do change over time. He thinks it is important to recognize that as those
communities change, we want to do it with intention and care, to respect those who are already
there.
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Roger Baird (Resident) has a driveway that would be a shared driveway of one of the units. He
thinks that everything previously said was really good, he is really happy with what has been
said. The thing that really is going to be an issue, that the city needs to know about, is parking.
The way the streets are developed, being narrow, and even now that only one side of Lake Run
Road is developed, parking is already an issue. When the other side gets developed, parking is
going to be a real issue in the whole South Station area. If you just walk through that area, like he
walks through to the new library, you can see that parking is going to be an issue in that whole
area. He wants it considered that is going to be an issue for that whole development.
Commissioner Gedge noted that he is making his motion to be accommodating to those who are
in attendance, but this time should be for new information that has not already been presented
this evening.
Commissioner Gedge motioned to extended public comment for those who have given
previous testimony, for an additional one minute maximum. Chair Hollist seconded the
motion; vote was unanimous in favor. Commissioner Bevans was absent from the vote.
Ms. Warnick went across the street with another neighbor, Linda, who wasn’t able to be here
tonight, and they went up the four story model home that Sego is building. There were some
others that came in and they talked to the salesperson. She informed them that the architect from
David Weekly Homes had come, specifically to look at their building and construction, to see
what they were designing. When she drove around today, there are green spaces in Garden Park
between homes, the townhomes, the condos and the clubhouse; they will not have that if they
build on Lake Run Road these condominiums. They will not have the green space that could be
developed and keep the character of Garden Park. She hopes they will look at one and two story
options.
Chair Hollist closed the public comment portion of the hearing. She turned to staff and asked
what control the city has over inlets and outlets, if UDOT is over Lake Run Road and would the
city allow an egress there as an option.
Deputy City Engineer Jeremy Nielson said the city is in control of Lake Run Road. It has not
been considered, but it was not on their site plan to put it on Lake Run Road. As staff reviewed
it, it met our requirements to have access on the lanes, even with the projected traffic volumes.
We have other lanes in Daybreak with similar numbers of units, so they didn’t have concerns
with them accessing through the lane.
Chair Hollist asked for the rating of Lake Run Road at this time.
Engineer Nielson responded it is a Level of Service A. It was last counted at the end of 2021,
about six months ago, and it was about 1000 vehicles per day.
Chair Hollist asked to clarify that the level of service is strictly related to the number of trips, not
how it’s parked.
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Engineer Nielson said yes, it’s solely based on the traffic volume.
Commissioner Gedge asked if there are any other properties on Lake Run Road that have an
access to their property from Lake Run Road, or would that consideration be a first time
precedence.
Engineer Nielson said that after a quick look at the aerial view, there is one access for the
apartment buildings that are immediately north of Daybreak Parkway, on the east side of Lake
Run. For the most part, besides that they are all either accessing through Duckhorn Drive or
Rambutan.
Chair Hollist asked about the size of the roads, and if they meet city standards out in Daybreak.
Engineer Nielson said yes, they are typical residential street widths. Lake Run is a little bit wider
at 32 feet of asphalt to accommodate parking on both sides of the street.
Chair Hollist asked for the rules regarding parking on city roads, do we have any ability to limit
that parking.
Engineer Nielson said on street parking is allowed. In some areas with a safety concern, they
might restrict it, but he is not aware of any restrictions in any of these areas right now. There are
the typical “chokers” as you get closer to the intersection, where the curb comes in closer to the
road and naturally prevents parking up near the intersection; that does a pretty good job of
pushing the on-street parking back and away from the intersections. If there are safety concerns,
that is always something they can look into and add parking restrictions if needed.
Chair Hollist asked who a citizen would contact at the city with those types of concerns.
Engineer Nielson said they would contact Engineering, which would be himself.
Commissioner Gedge asked if changes were made, he assumes those would be enforced by
public safety.
Engineer Nielson said yes, anything like no parking signs would be a police enforcement action.
Commissioner Gedge asked if that would be allowed in the Daybreak area.
Engineer Nielson said yes, because the roads are owned and controlled by city.
Chair Hollist asked if the lanes are controlled and owned by the city.
Engineer Nielson said yes, most of them are. These lanes in particular are owned by the city.
There is an exception to these parking discussions, the perpendicular parking that they are
proposing adjacent to the lane would be private. The right of way line ends right at the edge of
the lane and to the west of that there will be some perpendicular parking that will be private.
Chair Hollist noted that an email received (Attachment B) had concerns about sunlight and if
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daylight studies had been done, and asked staff about those concerns.
Engineer Nielson responded that the city plows the lanes, but it is based on priority. The first
priority is taking care of the collector streets, residential streets, and then lanes; the lanes are kind
of a last priority. He lives adjacent to a lane, and it does get plowed but not as often as the
residential streets. If it was as safety concern, that is certainly something they should notify
Public Works about and they could bump up the priority on that specific area.
Chair Hollist asked staff about the maps that were shown and were obviously published by
Daybreak. This is not the first time we have seen maps from Daybreak, and citizens that are
frustrated by changes in what was presented. She noticed this has the always present note at the
bottom indicating that things are subject to change. Is there any recourse with a document like
that, she feels like this is not the first time we have had citizens come very frustrated, feeling
they have been presented one thing and not have it be the reality.
Attorney Simonsen responded the residents aren’t going to like his answer to this, and he noted
he is the same age as the majority of the people here. There are some basic premises of the law
that this commission can’t change, that nobody can change. First, when we enter into real estate
purchase contracts, they have to be in writing. There are some contracts we can enter into that
can be verbally entered into, but real estate purchase contracts must be in writing; the reason for
that is being borne out tonight, and in other places. This is because there has to be a record and it
has to be binding. In the course of his career, he has looked at hundreds, perhaps thousands, of
real estate purchase contracts in Daybreak; he obviously hasn’t looked at the contracts of those
here tonight, but he has seen a lot for various reasons and he has never seen one that says the
surrounding property will be developed in a certain way. He has no doubt that they are honest
people, and that they have been told things like that, but he has never seen it translate into the
written contract that is binding on everybody. Also, every one that he has ever seen, again he
hasn’t seen the contracts of those here tonight, refers to the development agreement that
Commissioner Hollist referred to at the beginning of this meeting. The residents may have
actually received, in their purchase documents, a copy of that development agreement. He loves
Garden Park and has been out there many times. It is a beautiful place, the homes are nice, it is
clean; he is at the point in his life where he likes quiet as well. However, in some developments
there are restrictive covenants added, where a landowner is bound by the covenants they enter
into with their neighbors; things like only having senior housing on this mapped property. He
does not see any restrictive covenants here for this property. Everyone is responsible for their
own contracts, and residents can go look at their purchase contracts. If that contract does say
something about this being senior housing, which would mean what the applicant is trying to do
is against the contract, that would be an issue. The staff hasn’t seen that, apparently the residents
haven’t seen that either or they would have presented it tonight. While he would like to see all of
this property developed in a way that the residents were apparently told, he doesn’t see any legal
way of doing it. When Commissioner Hollist is trying to find some way to focus on whether this
can legally be done, he looks at the Staff Report and it’s saying things like “the proposal meets
all city ordinances,” “The proposal meets the development agreement that was signed” and
recorded against every property in Daybreak. Unfortunately for the residents, and for the
protection of the developer, the developers have the freedom to do this and he doesn’t believe the
planning commission is in a position to really be able to help them short of something in writing
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that makes it illegal for what the developer is proposing. He noted that many of the comments
have been requesting that the developer do something different, and the developer may
voluntarily do something different if they want. The comment was made that the city is here to
protect the citizens, and there is probably some truth to that, but it has to be done at a certain
time. Unfortunately, these covenants and this land development plan were probably made long
before the residents here purchased their homes. He suspects that if he, or any competent
attorney, looked through their contracts they would find that there is reference made in there to
that development agreement and to the zoning. It’s unfortunate for him to offer an opinion that
he knows hurts the residents, he doesn’t like doing that, especially to people of his own
generation, but that’s the way it is.
Chair Hollist noted that the maps and literature referred to Garden Park as a 55+ community, and
it did clearly mark what they considered to be Garden Village. She will ask the developer if this
is being removed from Garden Village and becoming its own village, because it obviously
doesn’t meet the 55+ requirement. That also may fall under the whole “this is subject to change,”
but it was obviously advertised as such.
Attorney Simonsen responded that’s the most disturbing part of this, if it’s true. He doesn’t know
if it’s true because he hasn’t looked at the documents, but to have something shown on a map
and then change it is troubling. Again, unless it’s in a contract, or the development agreement is
in violation of the ordinances, he doesn’t see recourse. Maybe they would be advised to talk to
their own attorneys about it to see if there is something there, but he doesn’t see anything before
him tonight.
Commissioner Catmull asked about CC&Rs, and if those are considered to be a civil matter, or
registered against the individual properties.
Attorney Simonsen said those are a civil matter between property owners, the city doesn’t get
involved in enforcement of CC&Rs. However, if something came before the city in this setting
and it said it was against the CC&Rs, it would be something that he thinks the city would
admonish the developer or property owners about.
Commissioner Catmull asked if Daybreak villages are legally defined boundaries that are
recorded.
Chair Hollist said that in the Staff Report it noted that this area was zoned a certain way, and that
zoning in the master development allows for up to 50 units per acre.
Planner Schindler said that’s correct. The subdivision plat for the Garden Park area has several
plats, they were listed as Village 4A plat 9 or another number. The three lots being discussed
today have been recorded as Village 4A, plat 9, first amendment; they were amended a few years
ago to create these three lots plus another one further north. Otherwise, there are village
boundaries, but they are only bound by which plats have the same village name in them. There is
a plat called Village 11A that has eight lots, but there is nothing recorded on a map that shows
that is the entire village.
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Commissioner Catmull is just wondering if these lots are officially part of Garden Park, and he
thinks they can ask that when they bring the developer back up.
Planner Schindler is pretty sure this project will not be a part of Garden Park and their HOA, as
they are not age restricted.
Chair Hollist noted that Mr. Dabling talked about City Council approving this as a 55+
development, and asked if this would have come before City Council.
Planner Schindler said no, the only thing the city council would have reviewed was the
development agreement in 2003. All subdivision plats come to the planning commission. Many
times the commission is referred to as the council, so that could have been the reason for the
wording.
Chair Hollist asked if the planning commission specifically authorizes 55+ communities.
Planner Schindler said the council may see it outside of Daybreak, because they have higher
density that requires a development agreement.
Chair Hollist asked about the square pattern next to the development.
Planner Schindler said that each of those little squares is a unit, in a 21 unit three story
condominium building that was approved and has been recorded with Salt Lake County several
years ago; they just haven’t built it yet. This is not being done by David Weekly, the applicant at
that time was Ivory Homes.
Chair Hollist asked for an explanation regarding the state laws that impacted development like
this, because of its location and proximity to mass transit.
Planner Schindler said these weren’t due to state codes, the parking requirements here were from
the design guidelines and part of the development agreement. This has been in the agreement
since 2003, and sometimes that can change based on reviewing design guidelines, but the
original was 1.5 spaces per unit, and then within a quarter mile of the light rail station that can be
reduced to one space per unit.
Commissioner Darby noted that this project would only technically have to have 63 parking
spots since they are within a quarter mile. However, they are providing 1.8 spaces per unit. The
residents are correct, there will probably be parking on the street for their visitors. However, part
of Daybreak’s design is to have lots of on street parking to slow down traffic and when it comes
to safety of pedestrians it’s probably safer there than it is in a lot of our residential
neighborhoods.
Engineer Nielson said they recently created a four way stop at Rambutan to try and improve
pedestrian safety.
Chair Hollist asked for comments from staff on transitions between land uses in Daybreak, and
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asked if the city has any say over that.
Planner Schindler said no, nothing was put into the development agreement to give us any
authority over that. The only thing would be the community structure plan that shows what areas
are village, town, research and development or industrial. This map shown may not have been
intended by the original developers to have this density on this end, but on the community
structure plan it does show that the line where the Town Center goes continues quite a way into
the Garden Park area, and goes all the way over on the other side of Mountain View.
Chair Hollist asked if these will be owned or rented.
Planner Schindler thinks that as condominiums they will be owner occupied, otherwise they
would just be apartments.
Attorney Simonsen noted that one of the residents had asked about an ombudsmen, and
responded that no, the city does not have one. The state does has a property rights ombudsman,
and that office is there to help citizens who feel they are being wronged in municipalities and
counties in the State of Utah.
Chair Hollist asked the applicant if these three properties will be a part of the Garden Village.
Mr. Staten responded that these will not be a part of the 55+ association.
Chair Hollist asked if there are any other locations in Daybreak where lanes are shared between
different communities.
Mr. Staten said he can’t speak to that as he has not developed all of Daybreak. He did note that
directly behind his single family home in Daybreak there is an alley, and directly behind him are
three story townhomes.
Chair Hollist said that Daybreak often claims high architectural standards and consistency; they
have a lot of control over what colors buildings can be among other things so they are pleasing
aesthetics. She asked the applicant to address the concerns residents have brought up regarding
the differences in architectural styles.
Mr. Staten said he can’t speak to the differences, or as to why Daybreak approves one thing over
another, as he is not Daybreak. They are required to get approval from them before anything is
done, and they have met extensively with the Daybreak architectural team. They have given
them significant comments over the past year as they have been working together on this.
Architectural styles, colors, access and every aspect of the way the buildings look has followed
Daybreak’s direction; the buildings look the way they were directed to look. There have been
artistic abilities for Weekly Homes, so there is some variety, but they and their architectural team
have responded and complied to their requirements.
Chair Hollist asked Mr. Staten to describe some of the changes that were made during that
process.
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Mr. Staten said that at one time they considered doing smaller buildings with the same number of
units, they seriously considered having different access points rather than using the alley as the
only access point for the parking garages. They also looked at the roof structure and different
types of roofs. They had a color consultant who worked with Daybreak to choose the colors and
color schemes. They discussed the accessibility access, the way the buildings function so there is
ADA compliance. They worked through the way the balconies and porches looked. Daybreak
told them they had too much parking, however Weekly Homes disagreed and felt it was valuable
and important to have the higher parking count.
Chair Hollist asked why Weekly Homes felt this was the right location for this particular
development.
Mr. Staten said they were approached a couple of years ago by Daybreak, asking if they wanted
to build condos. Daybreak told them this spot was intended for that, and that they would like
Weekly Homes to consider that. They were also following the recommendation of the
architectural team and the Daybreak Team, that this was what was intended. In Daybreak as a
builder you don’t have much control, you do what the architectural team tells you to do.
Chair Hollist asked if these will be owned or rented units.
Mr. Staten responded that these will be sold to individual owners, what they do with them will be
left to their discretion and compliance with the HOA guidelines.
Chair Hollist asked if he knew what those HOA guidelines were.
Mr. Staten said he only has second hand knowledge of the HOA guidelines, and he doesn’t speak
for Daybreak or the HOA. It is his understanding that the way these guidelines are written today,
after you’ve lived in your home for a year you can buy another property in Daybreak and then
rent the property.
Chair Hollist asked if staff could confirm that statement.
Planner Schindler said that is what they have been told in the past, that you have to live there one
year in Daybreak before you can buy another property; however, you can only buy one more
property.
Commissioner Gedge noted that from previous trainings, information like this would be
inadmissible since it is basically hearsay.
Mr. Staten said he feels the same way, that this is only what he has heard, he does not have first
hand knowledge of the rules.
Commissioner Catmull asked if this development is part of any village or district.
Mr. Staten said he is not part of Daybreak so doesn’t know the lines.
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Planner Schindler doesn’t believe this is being listed as part of any particular village, it just
happens to be on lots recorded as Village 4A Plat 9 first amendment. It could be considered a
part of Village 4A, but so would the rest of Garden Park, it just won’t be part of Garden Park.
Mr. Staten added in response to everyone’s comments that he is empathetic, and he hears public
comment. They also solicited public comment previously by sending out an invitation to an open
house meeting with a few people attending that. Someone in the audience said they did not
receive that invitation and Mr. Staten responded that they have documentation of those letters
that were sent within a 300 foot radius. Some people attended and some people sent emails or
called him, and those calls were returned. They tried to respond and tried to solicit public
comment, and if some did not hear that he apologizes for that. They are operating under good
faith that they invested more than $2 million in the past couple years to purchase this property
and get to this point, under the good faith that this was not a part of Garden Park. They went
through the title reports, through everything they had; under the direction of Daybreak
specifically, this was not part of Garden Park or the restrictions, and in fact they could build what
Daybreak was instructing them to build there. They were given assurance that what they were
proposing and planning to build was appropriate and approvable; it was certainly not intended to
devalue or create a problem for anybody.
Commissioner Gedge noted that earlier this evening, Chair Hollist mentioned that the city
council is open to having a joint meeting. A potential agenda item might be to get Daybreak
Communities or LHM there to discuss these issues and be more aligned, discuss concerns the
commission has heard with several projects in the past. His feelings on this motion are that city
ordinances are met, the development agreement from 2003 is what is being enforced, so the
commission’s hands are tied. He wishes there was something they could do, but he can’t see a
pathway anywhere to change things.
Commissioner Darby noted that when an issue like this comes before the commission he always
struggles just a little bit. Clearly there are enough people here who have heard the same thing,
and that disappoints him that someone along the way was dishonest. He doesn’t know who that
was, whether it’s an individual agent, a company, or potentially someone larger; however, he
doesn’t want to make any accusations because he wasn’t a party to the conversations. As
Commissioner Gedge just said, unfortunately this project meets all criteria set forth in the law,
and as the planning commission they are typically required to follow the law. He also doesn’t see
any alternative. If he were them, he would contact the State Ombudsman and have some
conversations with the people the residents interacted with, whether a real estate company or
construction company, and keep written records of those conversations. It seems problematic that
this many people heard the same thing, and what was presented was clearly not accurate.
Commissioner Catmull echoes similar thoughts. His mom lived in Garden Park until recently, so
he has a pretty good feel for the community and the nice place it is to live. It does appear to be,
from all the evidence seen and reviewed, that this is able to be built and that’s the prerogative of
the owner and developer. As a commission they always encourage and are happy when there is
conflict and affected entities can get together and resolve those differences. It is tough when so
much is in writing, as Mr. Simonsen talked about, and when you go to a closing you could spend
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an hour or two reading all the documents there. Most people aren’t familiar with the terminology
and that does make it difficult, and he’s really sad to hear that. He did find some Garden Park
CC&R documents that appeared to be official that talk about the individual make up of that, and
they were recorded at the Salt Lake County; they explain what defines the village, but from what
he can tell it is not part of the village but is part of something else. He would love to know what
that something else was, and that is a question he would like to ask Daybreak; what is this entity
to the west of Garden Park is called, and what restrictions exist there. Outside of that, he doesn’t
see any evidence presented today that prevents this application from being approved.
Chair Hollist added that she thinks 55+ communities as a standard have certain expectations that
come from them, and she doesn’t feel that Daybreak has operated in a way that is meeting the
expectations that you should expect from a community like that; that is incredibly disappointing.
The parking situation comes up every time they see a Daybreak application. It is not her cup of
tea, but at least the former owners explained that is part of their safety, that it is intentionally
parked this way so people drive slower. They are very proud of the fact that before LHM
ownership they had never had a pedestrian fatality in Daybreak. When they meet with City
Council, they need to engage with Daybreak and let them know that we would like their
marketing to their citizens to not be disingenuous. Sadly, this is not the first time the planning
commission has had a group of people this size come and express very similar concerns, and
unfortunately as was mentioned before there is nothing the commission can do. They are
required by law, if the ordinances and development agreement has been met, to approve the
project.
Commissioner Gedge motioned to approve File No. PLPP202200029, Preliminary
Condominium Plat, subject to the following: All South Jordan ordinances and the 2003
master development agreement have been satisfied. Chair Hollist seconded the motion;
Roll Call Vote was 4-0, unanimous in favor. Commissioner Bevans was absent from the
vote.
H.2. CAMERON DETACHED GARAGE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
Address: 11164 S. Anna Cir.
File No.: PLCUP202200124
Applicant: Gary Monteer, Clic Homes
Planner Damir Drozdek reviewed background information from the Staff Report.
Chair Michele Hollist asked about the height of the primary structure on this lot.
Planner Drozdek said it is 18 feet tall with the ridge.
Chair Hollist referred back to the aerial view from the Staff Report, and asked where the
structure will be located.
Planner Drozdek said it will be located at the southwest corner of the property. There is an
existing shed, and it looks like that shed will be replaced by the detached garage.
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Chair Hollist asked if it meets the setbacks for the height requested.
Planner Drozdek said yes.
Chair Hollist noticed a bathroom in the drawings and asked if there is any ordinance governing
that as they are not claiming that this will have any living space.
Planner Drozdek said yes, it will not be a living space. As presented it is not a living space. For
this to be an ADU, by city code it would need a bathroom, kitchen and sleeping quarters. This
only has space for storage and a bathroom.
Chair Hollist said the windows have her concerned. She asked if they were to put in living space
in the future, would it meet the ADU standards.
Planner Drozdek said this would require some extensive remodeling to make it an ADU.
Gary Monteer (Applicant) said the intended use of this is storage. The windows are up high for
that reason, just to bring in natural light. There is no shower in the building, only a lavatory for
convenience.
Chair Hollist opened the hearing for public comment.
Michelle Cameron (Resident) is the owner of the property and just wanted to confirm this is
only for storage. The bathroom is just in there to be convenient. They love South Jordan and
have been residents for their lifetime.
Chair Hollist closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Nathan Gedge thinks this is a good fit for the area.
Commissioner Steve Catmull drove around there today and looked at the adjoining properties,
there are a lot of detached garages that he found. Many of them seemed to have trees in front of
them, making them hard to spot. Eighteen feet is pretty big, but absent any concerns about the
residents around it, it feels very compatible with the area.
Commissioner Darby motioned to approve File No. PLCUP202200124, Conditional Use
Permit. Chair Hollist seconded the motion; Roll Call vote was 4-0, unanimous in favor.
Commissioner Bevans was absent from the vote.
H.3. WOOD DETACHED GARAGE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
Address: 9447 S. 2500 W.
File No.: PLCUP202200128
Applicant: Tim Wood
Planner Damir Drozdek reviewed background information from the Staff Report. He noted that
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an encroachment permit was approved for the second access after the staff report was completed.
He referenced an email from a neighbor (Attachment A) that was in support of this permit.
Chair Hollist asked Planner Drozdek to show her on the map which property the email sent in
support of this structure was from.
Planner Drozdek said he would try to pull it up, but he was unable to at the time of the question.
Commissioner Trevor Darby said the applicant in the audience was indicating the property was
the one just to the east.
Chair Hollist said the commission did receive the email from Mr. Mitra (Attachment A) that
Planner Drozdek referenced, citing they had no objections. She then invited the applicant up to
speak.
Tim Wood (Applicant) said this structure will be used for personal use, storage, hobbies, just to
keep some of his junk out of sight.
Chair Hollist asked about his intention for the living space.
Mr. Wood said his parents live out of town, so it will be for when they are in town to visit. They
do not intend to rent it out, they do not want strangers in there; it is for family to use when they
come into town, not as a permanent residence.
Chair Hollist asked staff to confirm that an ADU has been applied for and received.
Planner Drozdek responded yes.
Chair Hollist opened the hearing for public comment. There were no comments and the hearing
was closed.
Commissioner Gedge motioned to approve File No. PLCUP202200128, Conditional Use
Permit. Chair Hollist seconded the motion; Roll Call vote was 4-0, unanimous in favor.
Commissioner Bevans was absent from the vote.
I. LEGISLATIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS
I.1. 2555 W 11400 S REZONE FROM A-5 TO R-2.5
Address: 2555 W 11400 S
File No.: PLZBA202200064
Applicant: Austin Bowthorpe
Planner Ian Harris reviewed background information from the Staff Report.
Chair Michele Hollist asked how the fire truck would access everything else down that very long
private lane if a turnaround is not required.
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Deputy City Engineer Jeremy Nielson said it doesn’t have a formal turnaround, but it is a private
lane that has probably existed for some time and constructed without those requirements. It does
look like the firetruck would be able to get in, and there are options for turning around that he is
sure they would figure out should the need arise.
Commissioner Nathan Gedge said this is close to the intersection of 2700 W and 11400 S, and
asked about access to the property because of the proximity to the intersection and possible
raised median.
Engineer Nielson said it looks to him like it’s full access, as the raised median ends at Jackson
Downs Way, which is the road immediately to the west.
Chair Hollist opened the hearing for public comment. There were no comments and the hearing
was closed.
Commissioner Gedge said he is not sure how many similar future properties remain with the
limited emergency access, and he understands the concerns with having to potentially stretch a
firehose down a private lane and wondering if there would be adequate emergency response. It
may not be an issue with this particular property, but this may set a precedence for future rezone
opportunities so he wants to note that as a potential concern moving forward.
Chair Hollist noted that this is considered a flag lot, but then asked if it’s possible to do anything
deeper than that, like a two or three deep flag lot.
City Planner Greg Schindler said this property could have two flag lots instead of just the one,
but to get three flag lots they would have to meet the underlying zone. This applicant is applying
for the R-2.5 zone, which would only allow them to have two lots with that density. He asked if
they will have to put a fire hydrant in on this property, as he remembers this being discussed and
it being brought up that they are too far away from the closest existing fire hydrant which is
across 11400 S.
Engineer Nielson said it looks like the infrastructure analysis does say a fire hydrant will be
required on site, per city standards.
Commissioner Trevor Darby asked if they won’t see that until they propose the building, as they
are not seeing it on the rezone.
Planner Schindler said the commission won’t see the proposed building because it’s a residential
lot.
Commissioner Gedge asked if they could include that in the motion for the council to consider,
to make sure it is included before construction.
Planner Harris said that he believes when they intend to subdivide the lot the commission will
see a subdivision plat.
Planner Schindler confirmed that and said that they will see this again as a subdivision plat, and
it should be on there.
Planner Harris said he would make a note to address the fire hydrant with the applicant.
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Commissioner Darby motioned to forward a recommendation of approval for File No.
PLZBA202200064, Rezone from A-5 to R2.5. Chair Hollist seconded the motion. Roll Call
vote was 4-0, unanimous in favor. Commissioner Bevans was absent from the vote.
J. OTHER BUSINESS
Chair Michele Hollist asked staff to make the city council aware of their wishes and intentions
regarding Daybreak, as well as brainstorm any solutions staff might have for how the
commission can better encourage communication with our citizens.
Commissioner Nathan Gedge suggested pulling the maps from tonight to show them what
residents have, and possibly recommend that Daybreak update them.
Commissioner Trevor Darby said that to him, the biggest struggle seems to be the marketing
division typically. Unfortunately, sometimes the agents get fast and loose; they see an image and
take it as documented truth, as opposed to saying all areas are subject to change.
Chair Hollist noted they do have fine print that says that, but what was seen tonight was clearly
meant to create a vision. She added that she will be missing the first meeting in July.
Commissioner Gedge asked staff if they know what the agenda looks like for that first meeting in
July.
City Planner Greg Schindler said he hasn’t checked it, but he doesn’t think there are any
Daybreak items on it. He thought there might be one, but they submitted their corrections to the
wrong application so it was sent back to them.
Commissioner Gedge asked if the joint meeting will count towards their annual education
requirement.
Assistant City Attorney Greg Simonsen nodded his head in agreement, it should count towards
those hours.
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Gedge motioned to adjourn the June 28, 2022 Planning Commission
meeting. Chair Hollist seconded the motion; vote was unanimous in favor. Commissioner
Bevans was absent from the vote.
The June 28, 2022 Planning Commission Meeting adjourned at 8:51 p.m.
Meeting minutes were prepared by Deputy Recorder Cindy Valdez
This is a true and correct copy of the June 28, 2022 Planning Commission minutes, which
were approved on August 9, 2022.
Cindy Valdez
Deputy Recorder
From: Damir Drozdek
To: Anna Crookston; Cindy Valdez
Cc: PLANNING COMMISSION
Subject: FW: Tim Wood"s Conditional Use Permit
Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 8:25:31 AM
Regarding the upcoming PC meeting on the 28th.
Thanks,
Damir Drozdek, AICP | Planner III | City of South Jordan
1600 W. Towne Center Drive | South Jordan, UT 84095
O: 801.253.5203 Ext. 1290 |C: 801.946.4377
From: Subhasish Mitra <subhasishgmitra@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 12:58 PM
To: Damir Drozdek <DDrozdek@sjc.utah.gov>
Cc: v.tim.wood@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Tim Wood's Conditional Use Permit
Hello Damir Drozdek,
I’m Subhasish Mitra residing at 2433 W 9435 S, South Jordan and in receipt of a letter in regards to
Tim Wood’s Conditional Use Permit.
I would not be able to attend the in person meeting with South Jordan Planning Commission and
neither would be able to attend the zoom meeting scheduled for June 28, 2022.
Please consider my this email as my approval of consent.
TO WHOMSOVER IT MAY CONCERN
I, Subhasish Mitra property owner at 2433 W 9435 S have no objection to Tim Wood’s Conditional
Use Permit to build the new detached garage being taller than the main dwelling.
Regards,
Subhasish Mitra
subhasishgmitra@hotmail.com
I have also included Tim Wood in CC to this email for his reference.
Please feel free to reach out to me for additional information or query.
Regards,
Subhasish
From: Greg Schindler
To: Michele Hollist; Nathan Gedge; Trevor Darby; Steven Catmull; Laurel Bevans
Cc: Anna Crookston; Cindy Valdez; Steven Schaefermeyer; Gregory Simonsen
Subject: FW: 11281, 11309, 11333 South Lake Run development
Date: Monday, June 27, 2022 11:00:36 AM
Planning Commissioners,
See below email from concerned resident regarding the Dawn at Daybreak Condo project that will be on the 6/28/22 PC agenda. I hope to provide a response to her tomorrow regarding her questions.
Anna and Cindy,
Please add this letter to the minutes of the meeting
Thanks
Greg Schindler, AICP | City Planner | City of South Jordan
1600 W. Towne Center Drive | South Jordan, UT 84095
Office: 801.254.3742 | Direct: 801.253.5203 ext 1291
From: F W <felicitywightwick@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 5:31 PM
To: Greg Schindler <GSchindler@sjc.utah.gov>
Subject: 11281, 11309, 11333 South Lake Run development
Hi Greg
I have questions and comments about the proposed development.
Comments
The date listed to return comments is March 2021 on this letter. That is clearly incorrect so I am emailing regardless.
1. Most residents abutting these developments have not received this letter.
2. Originally purchasers of the Garden Park townhomes were shown plans indicating one and two storey townhomes were going to be built on Lake Run behind their townhomes. For this development that would be approximately 16
townhomes. Instead 63!!! condos are now planned. That could result in up to 80 more vehicles than might have been expected. While I understand the developers want to maximize their profits, this should not be at any cost. The City of
South Jordan has a duty to consider the amenity of existing residents and the intended village design of Garden Park.
3. The proposed condos are solid blocks of 4-storey buildings rather than one and two story townhomes. All sunlight from the west will be completely blocked by having such immense buildings. This will impact the ice levels in Winter in
the lanes and yards at the rear of the townhomes presenting a significant increase in potential hazards for the over 55 owners of the existing townhomes. In addition, the small courtyards next to, and behind the townhomes may no longer
get sunlight at any time of year.
Questions
1. What is the traffic management plan to accompany this proposal including number of vehicles, traffic noise, pollution levels (dust and emissions) and parking?
2. What reduction in sunlight on the lanes and townhomes do daylight studies indicate?
3. Will you put the needs of existing residents above the chase for more money and keep Garden Park to its original intended village feel?
The City of South Jordan has a duty and moral responsibility to consider the previous expectations, requirements and reasonable needs of existing residents over and above the desires of developers to maximize profit and squeeze in as
many residences as possible. Therefore I ask that you reject this development and ensure that only appropriate one and two storey townhomes are built.
I hope my trust in you to do the right thing is not misplaced.
Yours sincerely
Felicity Wightwick
From: Greg Schindler
To: Michele Hollist; Nathan Gedge; Trevor Darby; Steven Catmull; Laurel Bevans
Cc: Anna Crookston; Cindy Valdez
Subject: FW: Dawn Condominiums
Date: Monday, June 27, 2022 11:06:43 AM
Planning Commissioners,
Another comment regarding the Dawn at Daybreak. See below
Anna, Cindy,
Please add this to the meeting minutes.
Greg Schindler, AICP | City Planner | City of South Jordan
1600 W. Towne Center Drive | South Jordan, UT 84095
Office: 801.254.3742 | Direct: 801.253.5203 ext 1291
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian <brianboice@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 10:46 AM
To: Greg Schindler <GSchindler@sjc.utah.gov>
Subject: Dawn Condominiums
I believe for safety’s sake, the entrance and exits for the new condominiums should be on Lake Run and not pouring
into a retirement community on Jonagold drive.
Please address this decision.
Brian Boice
11318 South Jonagold Dr
South Jordan Utah
Sent from my iPad
From: Damir Drozdek
To: PLANNING COMMISSION; Anna Crookston
Cc: Cindy Valdez
Subject: FW: Conditional use Permit
Date: Wednesday, June 29, 2022 8:08:35 AM
Received this email during the PC meeting last night. I didn’t have access to my email at the time. It
is regarding the Cameron detached garage CUP.
Thanks,
Damir Drozdek, AICP | Planner III | City of South Jordan
1600 W. Towne Center Drive | South Jordan, UT 84095
O: 801.254.3742 | C: 801.946.4377
From: Aleta Taylor <aletataylor@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2022 7:25 PM
To: Damir Drozdek <DDrozdek@sjc.utah.gov>
Subject: Conditional use Permit
Damir and planning commission,
We received notice of the detached Garage approval for the Home owned by the Edward
Cameron family. We do not believe this will have a negative impact on the neighbors.
However, we are not the closest home to this project. The existing home to the south is
considerably taller than the proposed garage. We are confident that the five feet in question
will in no way decrease the value, or impede the esthetic value, of the surrounding properties,
but it will allow a great family to get the full use of their property.
Thank you for your consideration,
Aleta and Sherman Taylor
11131 S. Anna Circle,
South Jordan
From: Anna Crookston
To: Diana Baun
Cc: Cindy Valdez
Subject: Fwd: City of South Jordan - Planning Commission Meeting Photos
Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2022 9:54:38 PM
Here are the descriptions to go with the photos from Mr. Ashton.
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: John Ashton <jdar1200gs@gmail.com>
Date: June 28, 2022 at 9:30:34 PM MDT
To: Anna Crookston <acrookston@sjc.utah.gov>
Subject: Re: City of South Jordan - Planning Commission Meeting Photos
Thanks for the email.
IMG_1215, IMG_1217, IMG_1218, IMG_1219, and IMG_1221 are all various
views from Lake Run, showing the back of the townhomes on Jonagold. They
also show what would be the shared lane/alley for the proposed condominiums.
IMG_1228 shows two of the townhomes on Jonagold. The condominiums would
be behind these.
IMG_1229 shows the Jonagold townhomes looking south from just north of
Rambuton.
IMG_1230 shows Jonagold townhomes just north of Black Twig. It also shows 4
story condominiums on the west side of Lake Run.
IMG_1231 shows Jonagold townhomes looking south, taken from just north of
Black Twig.
Thank you for your help.
John
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 28, 2022, at 7:21 PM, Anna Crookston
<acrookston@sjc.utah.gov> wrote:
Hello Mr. Ashton,
Here is my email address to be able to send your description of photos
from public comment.
Thank you,
Anna
Anna Crookston | City Recorder | City of South Jordan
1600 W. Towne Center Drive | South Jordan, UT 84095
O: 801.253.5203 Ext. 1404 |F: 801.254.3393
Agenda
CITY OF SOUTH JORDAN
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AGENDA
CITY HALL
TUESDAY, JUNE 28, 2022 at 6:30 PM
Notice is hereby given that the South Jordan City Planning Commission will hold a Planning
Commission Meeting on Tuesday, June 28, 2022, in the City Council Chambers, located at 1600 W.
Towne Center Drive, South Jordan, Utah with an electronic option via Zoom phone and video
conferencing. Persons with disabilities who may need assistance should contact the City Recorder at
least 24 hours prior to this meeting.
In addition to in-person attendance, individuals may join via phone or video, using Zoom. Note,
attendees joining virtually may make public comments through video conferencing, and participant must
have their video on and working to speak. Attendees who wish to present photos or documents to the
Planning Commission must attend in person. Those who join via phone may listen, but not comment.
In the event the electronic portion of the meeting is disrupted in any way that the City in its sole
discretion deems inappropriate, the City reserves the right to immediately remove the individual(s) from
the meeting and, if needed, end virtual access to the meeting. Reasons for removing an individual or
ending virtual access to the meeting include but are not limited to the posting of offensive pictures,
remarks, or making offensive statements, disrespectful statements or actions, and other any action
deemed inappropriate.
Ability to participate virtually is dependent on an individual’s internet connection. To ensure comments
are received regardless of technical issues, please have them submitted in writing to City Planner, Greg
Schindler, at gschindler@sjc.utah.gov by 3:00 p.m. on the day of the meeting.
Instructions on how to join the meeting virtually are below.
Join South Jordan Planning Commission Electronic Meeting June 28, 2022 at 6:30 p.m.
- Join on any device that has internet capability.
- Zoom link, Meeting ID and Meeting Password will be provided 24 hours prior to meeting start time.
- Zoom instructions are posted https://www.sjc.utah.gov/254/Planning-Commission
THE MEETING WILL BEGIN AT 6:30 P.M. AND THE AGENDA IS AS FOLLOWS:
A. WELCOME AND ROLL CALL – Commission Chair Michele Hollist
B. MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA
C. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
C.1. June 14, 2022, Planning Commission Meeting Minutes
D. STAFF BUSINESS
E. COMMENTS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS
F. SUMMARY ACTION
Planning Commission Meeting - June 28, 2022 Page 1 of 2
G. ACTION
H. ADMINISTRATIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS
H.1. THE DAWN AT DAYBREAK CONDOMINIUMS PLATS 1-3 PRELIMINARY
CONDOMINIUM PLAT
Address: 11281 S., 11309 S. and 11333 S. Lake Run Road
File No: PLPP202200029
Applicant: Daybreak Communities
H.2. CAMERON DETACHED GARAGE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
Address: 11164 S. Anna Cir.
File No: PLCUP202200124
Applicant: Gary Monteer, Clic Homes
H.3. WOOD DETACHED GARAGE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
Address: 9447 S. 2500 W.
File No: PLCUP202200128
Applicant: Tim Wood
I. LEGISLATIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS
I.1. 2555 W 11400 S REZONE FROM A-5 TO R-2.5
Address: 2555 W 11400 S
File No: PLZBA202200064
Applicant: Austin Bowthorpe
J. OTHER BUSINESS
ADJOURNMENT
CERTIFICATE OF POSTING
STATE OF UTAH )
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COUNTY OF SALT LAKE )
I, Cindy Valdez, certify that I am the duly appointed City Deputy Recorder of South Jordan City,
State of Utah, and that the foregoing Planning Commission Agenda was faxed or emailed to the
media at least 24 hours prior to such meeting, specifically the Deseret News, Salt Lake Tribune
and the South Valley Journal. The Agenda was also posted at City Hall, on the City’s website
www.sjc.utah.gov and on the Utah Public Notice Website www.pmn.utah.gov.
Dated this 23rd day of June, 2022.
Cindy Valdez
South Jordan City Deputy Recorder
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