Planning Commission Meeting - ARCHIVED
Regular MeetingSouth Jordan, UT · January 10, 2023
Minutes
CITY OF SOUTH JORDAN
ELECTRONIC
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
January 10, 2023
Present: Commissioner Michele Hollist, Commissioner Nathan Gedge, Commissioner
Trevor Darby, Commissioner Steven Catmull, Commissioner Laurel Bevans,
Commissioner Aaron Starks, Assistant City Attorney Greg Simonsen, City
Planner Greg Schindler, Deputy City Recorder Cindy Valdez, Deputy City
Engineer Jeremy Nielson, GIS Coordinator Matt Jarman, Planner David Mann,
Senior IS Tech Phill Brown, Meeting Transcriptionist Diana Baun, Planner
Miguel Aguilera
Others: Jerri Harwell
Absent:
6:30 P.M.
REGULAR MEETING
A. WELCOME AND ROLL CALL – Chair Michele Hollist
Commissioner Michele Hollist welcomed everyone to the Electronic Planning Commission
Meeting.
B. MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA
Commissioner Gedge motioned to approve tonight’s agenda as published. Commissioner
Hollist seconded the motion; vote was unanimous in favor.
C. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
C.1. December 13, 2022 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes
Commissioner Catmull motioned to approve the December 13, 2022 Planning Commission
Meeting Minutes as published. Chair Hollist seconded the motion; vote was unanimous in
favor.
D. PLANNING COMMISSION BUSINESS
D.1. Elect Planning Commission Chair and Vice Chair for 2023
Commissioner Aaron Starks asked for more historic context on the position, nominations and
how it works including the expectations.
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Chair Michele Hollist explained the position is usually appointed for the year, revisited in
January for reappointment. In the past they have operated with just a chair and vice chair, the
chair runs the meetings and sometimes there is some communication with the mayor. As the
chair she has attended a few City Council meetings to be able to brief the commission when
things come up, but that is not technically a requirement. The Vice Chair fills in when the chair
is not available, also helps run the meetings.
Commissioner Starks asked if the commissioners’ duration of service is affected or dependent on
the council member appointing them to the position.
Commissioner Nathan Gedge said their terms line up with their council member’s term.
Chair Hollist said that while this is an election year for some of the council members, each
current member of the commission is entitled to stay in their role through the remainder of the
year.
Commissioner Gedge nominated Michele Hollist for the position of Planning Commission
Chair. Commissioner Starks seconded that nomination; vote was unanimous in favor.
Commissioner Starks nominated Nathan Gedge for the position of Planning Commission
Vice Chair. Commissioner Bevans seconded the nomination; vote was unanimous in favor.
D.2. Choose Planning Commission Representative to Architectural Review
Committee.
Commissioner Laurel Bevans noted that she has time in the mornings to fulfill this role if
Commissioner Steve Catmull is unable to continue on that committee.
Chair Hollist nominated Laurel Bevans as the Planning Commission Representative to the
Architectural Review Committee. Commissioner Gedge seconded the nomination; vote was
unanimous in favor.
E. STAFF BUSINESS
Chair Michele Hollist congratulated GIS Coordinator Matt Jarman on his 15 years with the city,
and thanked him for all he does.
City Planner Greg Schindler shared there is a new planner, who is in attendance tonight. His
name is Miguel Aguilera and he started yesterday.
Assistant City Attorney Greg Simonsen noted the Meeting Transcriptionist was missing from the
chambers and wanted to make sure that didn’t cause any issues.
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Staff informed him that she was on the Zoom meeting and attending online, so everything was
good to go.
Planner Schindler brought up the previous discussion about opportunities for the commissioners
to be on other committees and boards within the city. The council passed an ordinance in the
past, stating that an individual can only serve on one appointed board or committee in the city at
a time.
Commissioner Nathan Gedge asked about the commission nominating someone for the
Architectural Review Committee (ARC), and how that is allowed.
Planner Schindler said that the ARC is not an official committee authorized by the city council, it
was set up by the city manager years ago and that was never changed to allow the council
members to make the appointments.
Commissioner Gedge asked about the commission having an informal representative or
volunteer to be their representative to the city council.
Chair Michele Hollist noted that based on previous discussions, she believes the commission will
rotate who attends based on availability rather than assigning a specific person. She then asked
which commission members would be willing to be on that rotation to attend City Council
meetings.
Commissioner Catmull was willing to take a turn, but he would be unable to attend on Tuesday
nights. He would probably need to listen to the recording afterwards, but he is willing to do that
and report back.
Chair Hollist asked how soon those recordings are available and staff responded that they are
available the next day.
Commissioner Starks is willing to be an alternate, as he is traveling quite a bit during the next
quarter.
Chair Hollist said she will create a draft for covering those meetings and they can discuss and
make changes as needed once that’s done.
Planner Schindler brought up the idea of a joint meeting with the city council, and that is
scheduled for March 7, during the work session. That meeting will take up at least half of the
work session, and he invited the commissioners to send any suggestions for discussion topics to
staff, who will pass them on to the city council. He noted this will also be a training session.
F. COMMENTS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS - None
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G. ACTION - None
H. ADMINISTRATIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS
H.1. SEGO LILY DAY SPA SITE PLAN APPLICATION
Address: 10418 S. Willow Valley Rd
File No.: PLSPR202100204
Applicant: Johan VanZeben Architecture
City Planner Greg Schindler reviewed background information from the Staff Report.
Commissioner Laurel Bevans asked if there were any comments back in April from the
public, when this was originally presented.
Planner Schindler didn’t believe so, he doesn’t remember the previous planner
mentioning any comments either.
Chair Hollist asked if the applicant was present this evening and invited them up to
speak.
Garrett Goff (Applicant) – is with Garn Development, who also operates the Sego Lily
Business. They have three locations, including Layton, Bountiful and Midvale. Part of the
reason for the pause last April was due to labor. They looked at their other three locations
and massage therapists were hard to come by, as was labor in general, and interest rates
were doing what they were doing. They always knew they wanted to be in South Jordan
because currently their flagship is in Midvale, specifically Fort Union. He grew up in the
Sandy area, and many of them who grew up there and knew Sego Lily ended up in South
Jordan, so they always knew they wanted to end up here because everyone knows what
Sego Lily Day Spa is. The building is beautiful, the architect has done a phenomenal job
designing it and you can see some of the contours and roundness of the building, actually
trying to look like a flower blooming. There has been a lot of thought, care and detail that
has gone into this over the last few years and they really think this would be their new
flagship for their spa and they look forward to partnering with South Jordan City on this.
Commissioner Nathan Gedge asked for the general hours of operation.
Mr. Goff responded right now they are 9:00 to 7:00, Monday through Friday, and 9:00 to
9:00 on Saturday, closed on Sundays.
Commissioner Aaron Stark asked for details on the business model, whether it was
subscription based and what kinds of services would be available.
Mr. Goff responded it is not subscription based. You go online and book a massage
therapist for 60 or 90 minutes. They do the Vichy rubs, and are starting to look into
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different medical device options like acupuncture; they have all the licensing required for
that. They also do facials and pedicures.
Chair Hollist asked if staff reviews the services offered to make sure they all fall within
what’s allowed for personal services per city code.
Planner Schindler said that is done through the business licensing.
Chair Hollist asked to confirm that if they started doing something like tattooing, that
would be reviewed to verify whether or not it needed a special permit.
David Mann shook his head to say no, as that is not a conditional use.
Commissioner Gedge noted that since they are offering additional medical services, he
assumes that Fire has reviewed this to make sure there is appropriate emergency access in
case of a complicated medical event.
Planner Schindler responded that yes, Fire reviews all the plans.
Chair Hollist opened the hearing for public comment. There were no comments and the
hearing was closed.
Commissioner Gedge wanted to ensure that former employee emails and voicemails are
being directed to new staff in the future.
Commissioner Darby motioned to approve the Site Plan Application with File No.
PLSPR202100204 at the address listed above. Chair Hollist seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote was 6-0, unanimous in favor.
I. LEGISLATIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS
I.1. Moderate Income Housing Plan Amendment, General Plan Amendment
Planner David Mann reviewed background information from the Staff Report.
Chair Michele Hollist asked to confirm that the city’s report required more detail in the
timeline associated with rolling the chosen menu items out.
Planner Mann said yes, the initial plan approved in 2019 included the necessary
strategies. They have updated the language to reflect the new language approved last
year, but they also wanted more details for each strategy as far as the timeline and
implementation steps set to take place in the future.
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Commissioner Nathan Gedge knows the legislative session doesn’t begin until next week,
but he asked if staff is anticipating any more amendments that will require more changes
on the city’s end in the future.
Planner Mann said this requirement was part of HB 462, from last year’s legislative
session. These changes need to be submitted in the next month or two in order to still
meet those requirements.
Commissioner Gedge asked if there are any penalties for failure to submit.
Planner Mann responded that to be prioritized for funding for roads and transportation,
this needs to be in place.
Commissioner Laurel Bevans asked about the Jordan Gateway Transit Corridor, and
specifically which part of the city that encompasses.
Planner Mann said that came after the general plan was approved in 2020, working with a
consultant to create two sub area plans. One of those was the frontrunner station area, as
well as the area around the business park by Mulligans, and that’s where this was
referencing.
Commissioner Bevans asked if the River Bottoms area was included in this.
Planner Mann responded yes.
Commissioner Bevans noted that on Page 5 it talks about the moderate income housing
set aside, along with the programs available. How would a member of the public find
those programs now, and are any still active.
Planner Mann said there was some funding available last year through the Covid time
period for the CDBG program and the federal government, along with some county run
programs. The city tried to create and run their own down payment assistance program,
but they have been unsuccessful in figuring that out. He believes there are still some
options with the county.
Commissioner Bevans noted that the Daybreak ADU standards have historically been
different than the regular city standards, and asked if that was still correct.
Planner Mann responded that is correct.
Commissioner Bevans asked for details on the ADU standards in Daybreak, whether it’s
the HOA that disallows it or the city.
Planner Schindler said it’s not necessarily Daybreak, but that city code states what zones
ADUs are allowed in; the PC zone is not one of those zones. Over time, the city has been
working with Daybreak in bringing the PC zone to the code section. However, Daybreak
has reservations around that because the development agreement limits the number of
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housing units to 20,785. They would have to open up the development agreement to
make changes and specify what ADUs would count as additional units, and the developer
doesn’t necessarily want to open up the MDA because they like how it’s written
currently. They are allowed in the MDA to have ancillary units, and he explained a little
bit about what those are.
Chair Hollist opened the hearing for public comment.
Assistant City Attorney Greg Simonsen quoted from Page 3, “The city’s continuing
discussions with the Daybreak developer regarding the development of Downtown
Daybreak led to the city and Daybreak developer drafting an application for a Housing
and Transit Reinvestment Zone. If approved, the Downtown Daybreak HTRZ will
jumpstart the development of more than 100 acres in the Downton Daybreak, which is
situated along one future and two existing TRAX stations. Among other things, the
HTRZ proposes more than 4700 residential units with more than 10% of those units
being affordable.” To him, as a citizen, there are two huge things going on in the city
right now. The first is the one he just read, that 4700 residential units within a 100 acre
area, probably means densities never seen in the city before. Based on what he has been
hearing, without sitting in on the meetings, these talks have been going on for a long time
now with the mayor, the city council and so forth. Back in 2008 he was on the UTA
Board and one of the things they did as a board was travel down to Dallas. They got on
their Dallas Area Rapid Transit and went up and down the line, getting out at stops and
looking at the development along the way. That development was very high density, but
it was really nice. If that’s the kind of lifestyle someone would enjoy with nice places and
rapid transit close by, mixed use shops with everything within walking distance, he thinks
that is what they are trying to plan out there with entertainment and speculative talk of a
ballpark. He thinks that will all be coming at some point before the planning commission,
and there will obviously have to be zoning changes for that to happen. If it’s 10% of 4700
residential units that are affordable, that’s close to 500 affordable residential units. The
other big thing that everyone has probably seen from the recent city council meeting is
that there has been an annexation application submitted by Kennecott Copper to annex
more than 2000 acres into the city, which is historic and will be carefully managed. They
are talking about doing another Daybreak type development as part of that, so for
anybody that has liked the Daybreak development or thought there should be some things
different, now is the time to give input to the legislative body.
Chair Hollist asked about the HTRZ and whether that money will come from the RDA
funds, and if it will be deed restricted.
Attorney Simonsen said that a significant amount of the money, as he understands it, is
set to be RDA money, which comes from tax increment money. It comes out of property
tax that would otherwise go to other entities within the city including schools. The idea
behind it, to his understanding, is that it will jump start everything and then on the back
end it would be more than recouped as part of the development process and sale taxes
along with other money. If anyone wanted more information on that he encouraged them
to contact the city’s Director of Commerce Brian Preece, as he is the expert on all of that.
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Commissioner Bevans asked about the developments coming in closer to the transit
centers, and the discussions regarding reducing or eliminating parking requirements for
those locations. Are there going to be requirements for the developers to provide
incentives for residents to utilize the public transit systems, and how close do they have
to be to these transit hubs to qualify for some of those reduced parking requirements.
Planner Schindler said that currently in Daybreak if they are within a quarter mile they
can reduce the parking spaces for residential by one space per unit.
Chair Hollist noted that she understands the theory, but doesn’t believe it’s reality. In her
opinion, every adult regardless of how close they live to transit in Utah has a car.
Planner Schindler said that’s probably true because the adults not only need to get to
work, which they can ride transit to, but they also need to get to the grocery store, school,
etc.
Chair Bevans asked if we have ever required developers to provide incentives or special
access to incentivize their residents to use the public transit systems.
Planner Schindler doesn’t believe the city has. He thinks the apartment units near the
Frontrunner station might be offering their tenants UTA passes as part of their rent, but
they would probably be paying for that through their rent.
Commissioner Trevor Darby asked if anyone knew the number of households in South
Jordan. He looked it up and believes it’s about 24,000 and asked if that sounded correct.
Planner Schindler said he believes it’s closer to 29,000.
Commissioner Darby noted that we are talking about a 16% to 17% increase to the total
city with those 4700 units in that area.
Planner Schindler noted that Daybreak still can’t go over the 20,785 units. Generally,
with the expected densities, these will be condominiums or apartment units, and those
tend to have smaller household sizes.
Chair Hollist closed the hearing.
Commissioner Gedge moved to make a positive recommendation to the City Council
to adopt the amendments above based on their review tonight. Chair Hollist
seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote was 6-0, unanimous in favor.
J. OTHER BUSINESS
Commissioner Aaron Starks said he hasn’t been receiving any emails since starting, so he
doesn’t get staff reports and recommendations ahead of the meetings. He would love to get that
information in advance if it is being sent out to the other commissioners. Staff agreed to discuss
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it after the meeting and figure out what’s going on. He said he has contacted IT to get his city
email set up, but was having some issues.
Commissioner Nathan Gedge brought up the annexation that has been proposed, and it was
mentioned tonight that it might have a development agreement with, he assumes, a PC Zone. He
asked if that will come before the commission, and if there will be a public hearing before the
city council adopts anything.
City Planner Schindler said there probably won’t be a lot of input on the development agreement,
but there will be public hearings because it will have to be rezoned and will need a land use
amendment. Both the rezone and land use amendment would come before the planning
commission. Also, because of the location of this annexation, if Rio Tinto decides to develop
more of their property in the future, especially to the north of this, it is all adjacent to South
Jordan City as well. What is being proposed for annexation right now could have been annexed
as part of Herriman’s annexation plan, but Rio Tinto determined that South Jordan was the place
to be.
Chair Hollist noted that it’s good to be involved in the process early, to avoid issues later on in
development after all those decisions have been made.
Commissioner Gedge added that with that he would like to see the planning commission leave
some guidance for residents of the process and the thinking behind the decisions. If it is allowed,
he would like to see this annexation as an item on the March 7 meeting agenda.
Planner Schindler confirmed that the zoning for that area will be the PC Zone.
Commissioner Laurel Bevans asked if staff knew which council district that area touches.
GIS Coordinator Matt Jarman answered that will be part of District 4, as all of the annexed area
shares a boundary with District 4 currently and that is where it will be incorporated. None of the
annexation area currently has any residents in it, which makes that process a lot easier. They
have taken the first step in the annexation process with receiving the annexation and approving
it, however it has to go through several hands and processes, up through the Lieutenant
Governor, before it becomes recorded and officially part of the city. That will take a significant
amount of time, and he doesn’t think they will be looking at zoning or land use for a few months
at least.
Commissioner Gedge asked if there have been any conversations with our neighbors, like
Herriman, regarding whether they will be opposing this at any level.
Planner Schindler said there isn’t much they can do to oppose it since there is no population in
the area to oppose it, and the property owner is the one who decides where they want to annex.
They are proposing to annex a small portion into Herriman that is actually south of 11800 South
and east of Bacchus Highway.
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Coordinator Jarman said there have been numerous discussions with Herriman City regarding
this annexation, and some concessions were made regarding future street alignments and things
of that nature.
Commissioner Gedge asked if fire and police access will be impacted for the rest of the city
because of this, and if so he assumes the city will dedicate additional resources so that those
residents on the eastern side of South Jordan will not be negatively impacted by the addition.
Coordinator Jarman said they are discussing future station locations and future streets right now.
Planner Schindler said no one will be affected by a station closing, but everyone in the city is
impacted when a new station is built as the entire city pays as growth continues.
Commissioner Gedge asked about the next meeting and what the agenda looks like.
Planner Mann said there are three items on the agenda for the next meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
Chair Hollist motioned to adjourn the January 10, 2023 Planning Commission Meeting.
Commissioner Bevans seconded the motion; vote was unanimous in favor.
The January 10, 2023 Planning Commission Meeting adjourned at 7:33 p.m.
This is a true and correct copy of the January 10, 2023Planning Commission minutes,
which were approved on January 24, 2023.
Agenda
CITY OF SOUTH JORDAN
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AGENDA
CITY HALL
TUESDAY, JANUARY 10, 2023 at 6:30 PM
Notice is hereby given that the South Jordan City Planning Commission will hold a Planning Commission
Meeting on Tuesday, January 10, 2023, in the City Council Chambers, located at 1600 W. Towne Center
Drive, South Jordan, Utah with an electronic option via Zoom phone and video conferencing. Persons
with disabilities who may need assistance should contact the City Recorder at least 24 hours prior to this
meeting.
In addition to in-person attendance, individuals may join via phone or video, using Zoom. Note, attendees
joining virtually may make public comments through video conferencing, and participant must have their
video on and working to speak. Attendees who wish to present photos or documents to the Planning
Commission must attend in person. Those who join via phone may listen, but not comment.
In the event the electronic portion of the meeting is disrupted in any way that the City in its sole discretion
deems inappropriate, the City reserves the right to immediately remove the individual(s) from the meeting
and, if needed, end virtual access to the meeting. Reasons for removing an individual or ending virtual
access to the meeting include but are not limited to the posting of offensive pictures, remarks, or making
offensive statements, disrespectful statements, or actions, and other any action deemed inappropriate.
Ability to participate virtually is dependent on an individual’s internet connection. To ensure comments
are received regardless of technical issues, please have them submitted in writing to City Planner, Greg
Schindler, at gschindler@sjc.utah.gov by 3:00 p.m. on the day of the meeting.
Instructions on how to join the meeting virtually are below.
Join South Jordan Planning Commission Electronic Meeting January 10, 2023 at 6:30 p.m.
- Join on any device that has internet capability.
- Zoom link, Meeting ID and Meeting Password will be provided 24 hours prior to meeting start time.
- Zoom instructions are posted https://www.sjc.utah.gov/254/Planning-Commission
THE MEETING WILL BEGIN AT 6:30 P.M. AND THE AGENDA IS AS FOLLOWS:
A. WELCOME AND ROLL CALL – Commission Chair Michele Hollist
B. MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA
C. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
C.1. December 13, 2022, Planning Commission Meeting Minutes
D. PLANNING COMMISSION BUSINESS
D.1. Elect Planning Commission Chair and Vice Chair for 2023
D.2. Choose Planning Commission Representative to Architectural Review Committee
E. STAFF BUSINESS
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F. COMMENTS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS
G. ACTION
H. ADMINISTRATIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS
H.1. SEGO LILY DAY SPA SITE PLAN APPLICATION
Location: 10418 S Willow Valley Rd
File No: PLSPR202100204
Applicant: Johan VanZeben Architecture
I. LEGISLATIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS
I.1. Moderate Income Housing Plan Amendment, General Plan Amendment
J. OTHER BUSINESS
ADJOURNMENT
CERTIFICATE OF POSTING
STATE OF UTAH )
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COUNTY OF SALT LAKE )
I, Cindy Valdez, certify that I am the duly appointed City Deputy Recorder of South Jordan City,
State of Utah, and that the foregoing Planning Commission Agenda was faxed or emailed to the
media at least 24 hours prior to such meeting, specifically the Deseret News, Salt Lake Tribune
and the South Valley Journal. The Agenda was also posted at City Hall, on the City’s website
www.sjc.utah.gov and on the Utah Public Notice Website www.pmn.utah.gov.
Dated this 5th day of January, 2023.
Cindy Valdez
South Jordan City Deputy Recorder
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