City Council Regular Meeting
Regular MeetingStar, ID · March 20, 2018
Minutes
Star City Council
Meeting Minutes
March 20, 2018
The regular meeting of the Star City Council was held at 7:00 pm at Star City Hall, 10769 W. State Street,
Star, Idaho on March 20, 2018. Mayor Chad Bell called the meeting to order at 7:00 pm and all stood for
the Pledge of Allegiance.
Roll Call: Councilmen David Hershey, Michael Keyes, Trevor Chadwick, and Kevin Nielsen were all
present.
Approval of Agenda: Keyes moved to approve the agenda, Chadwick seconded the motion. All ayes:
motion carried.
Consent Agenda: Chadwick moved to approve the Consent Agenda consisting of: Regular Meeting
Minutes of March 6, 2018 and Findings of Fact & Conclusions of Law for Eagle Crossroads LLC.,
Comprehensive Map Amendment, Annexation and Zoning, Nielsen seconded the motion. Keyes stated
that his name was spelled wrong on page two of the last minutes. Second as noted: All ayes: motion
carried.
Presentations/Public Input:
Idaho Fish & Wildlife – Joe Kozfkay of the Idaho Fish & Game, stated he is with the Regional Fisheries
Management. They are responsible for public outreach, fish stocking, looking for access points for the
public to fish, provide boat ramps and restrooms at designated locations. They also apply for grants to
purchase new property. Kozfkay stated that Bent Lane was supposed to have a public access, but does
not have a legal access. When it was platted with Canyon County it was supposed to be recorded on the
plat for an access. When the crash occurred it did not get recorded. Kozfkay stated that F&G would like
to form a partnership. Fish and Game would hold easement to park along the river and access the river.
Fish and Game can’t get memorandum of understandings, Tim Eck will provide a legal description, then
get the Commission’s approval. Eck will develop the parking area with fencing in the parking area. The
City will be asked to assist with maintenance and garbage pickup. The document before the Council is a
template to start the discussion, just like we do with other agreements.
Chadwick asked about Item F where Eck agrees to the time controlled gate. The City agrees and
conditioned this in it’s approval. The City will discuss Item I. Kozfkay stated there would be more
discussion on time of the controlled gate.
The Mayor stated the City is on board, he understands they just want a partnership.
ACHD Path and Bike Pathways – Brooke Green, stated that she is with Ada County Highway District and
is responsible for the Star Neighborhood Bike and Pedestrian Plan. They are coming to Star to work on
planning for pathways and incorporating the plans and paths. Green explained that the City plans where
they want to see projects go in and then ACHD implements them. A power point presentation was
discussed.
Keyes stated that part of our City is in Canyon County, do you work with people on the other side.
Green stated that the neighborhood plan is to go across to Canyon County; they are working on it.
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Chadwick believes it will work great. Chadwick is the representative for this group for Star.
Old/New Business:
Public Hearing – Silkwood Subdivision Preliminary Plat - The Mayor reviewed the procedure for public
hearing. We will have a presentation by the applicant, staff comments, Council questions, move to
public input (limiting speaking to 3 minutes), then applicant rebuttal, then close the public hearing and
move to deliberations. The Mayor asked Council for any ex parte contact or conflicts of interest.
Nielsen stated that he spoke with the Saddlebrook Property Manager, the HOA is not considering
irrigation for this application. The Mayor declared the public hearing open and asked the Applicant to
speak.
Applicant – Wendy Shrief, JUB Engineers, 250 S. Beechwood, Boise, Idaho stated she was the planner for
this project. This project was part of the Saddlebrook Subdivision, the seventh phase which has expired.
They do not plan for this to be the final phase of the Saddlebrook Subdivision, but a stand-alone
subdivision. There are 14.7 acres and they are proposing 43 lots, of which 37 are residential lots.
Density is at 2.52 residential lots per acre, it has slightly larger lots. It was originally zoned R2, but they
are requesting R3. She met with the neighbors across the street and they were excited for this property
to develop as the property has not been maintained and became an eyesore. She believes it will be a
real positive development for Star. The Developer is from Utah and here tonight. They have worked
with Cathy on the layout, they are in agreement with the staff report, but have a couple comments.
Shrief spoke with the Fire Chief regarding his comments. Because of the number of lots proposed, they
are in fact over the requirement and will be providing a second emergency access for the Fire
Department. They are working on where to put it. It is not necessary to hook into Saddlebrook’s
irrigation system as they have a second way to work around the irrigation. It would be beneficial for
them to join the HOA, but if not, it is not a problem. They are talking with Saddlebrook about analyzing
the system (irrigation). Shrief stated they are providing 3.57 acres of common area. These will be
common lots that are comparable to other lots in the surrounding subdivisions. Shrief stated there is a
comment in the staff report about sidewalks and the eight way ditch diversion, those issues will be
resolved at construction along with road widening.
Council - Chadwick asked if the 3.7 acres of common area are ditches. Shrief stated that was correct.
Regarding secondary access, there are two potential locations - lot 17 and lot 7. When construction
design begins they will decide then where it will go.
Hershey asked if lot 17 would need an agreement. Shrief stated that it would.
Keyes asked if that would be a road. Shrief stated that it would not be.
Chadwick stated that Cantle can’t end in the cul-de-sac because it is too long. Shrief stated that during
construction, they will figure it out. There could be a reconfiguration and then meet the requirement.
Chadwick stated that W. Pummel Court cannot end in a hammerhead as it is not allowed. Shrief stated
that hammerheads are no longer allowed, but that the cul-de-sac will be under the 450’ requirement.
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Keyes stated he has a problem with flag lots and a turn around. Shrief will work with the Fire
Department. Keyes stated that ACHD is requiring a 46’ roadway, how will that happen with that ditch.
Shrief stated that it is an issue when they get to design.
Access to Can Ada Road was discussed. Shrief stated that Ward mentioned this. There is only one
access. Keyes asked why it was decided not to connect Cantle to W. Hiddenbrook like it was before.
Shrief stated that it was expensive to develop this property. This is the remainder of the Saddlebrook
Subdivision.
The Fire Code requires that the roadway go in.
The Mayor stated that at the end of Gambrell there are 59 homes that have to go out the other way. He
realizes that other roads will be extended. It has always been the intent of the City to connect Gambrell
to Can Ada by way of the ditch crossing for traffic flow. Shrief stated Council needs to look at the roads,
there is another connection. Shrief stated that her client is here tonight. Shrief stated that Gambrell is a
local street.
Nielsen stated that that actually reinforces the Mayors comment. We do a disservice when we don’t
provide that connection to our neighbors. Nielsen stated that condition has been identified to the
Council and residents for some time. Shrief stated there is a street to the east where the road will be
continuing for Phases 5 & 6, it is Deerhaven. Shrief stated that the road is a public road and it has a
signal light. Nielsen state that Deerhaven would be available for the commercial development.
Public Input - Richard Stuppy, 22153 Can Ada Road, stated that neither the City nor the Applicant has
given him any information of the development of the property. He stated that he checked the list and
his name was not on it. They talked to Danny Sample for four minutes. He believes that road should go
to the west like it was planned 15 years ago.
Tom Erlebach – Had no comment.
Rebuttal – Shrief stated that the labels for the notice were received from the Assessor records and also
pulled from Canyon County for people within 300 feet of the property. Shrief stated they don’t want to
do the connection. If we go down that path, we need to go down that path. Shrief introduced Brent
Thompson.
Brent Thompson, TG Development, Saint George, Utah, stated he is developing this project. He has met
with Ward and talked to several people about it. He likes challenges and wants to be friends in Star.
This is not a huge project, he is doing a self-paid project in Nampa. He has already got the bid and is
moving forward, the area now is a blight with random trees and weeds. He would like to move swiftly
and make it look much nicer now. He prefers not to work on the crossing, he is working with Sample on
the property. Quincannon and Deerhaven will be connecting to the road. He is willing to do what he
needs to do. His personal opinion is if Can Ada expands it creates access from the collector road; the
connection will have access into the neighborhoods and into commercial areas. He believes that the
Sample property will also have accesses. In the long term perspective it actually creates a greater
problem to put in the crossing. He is not here to contend with the City and wants to be recognized as a
quality developer. From a homebuilder perspective they may start a building company up here. They
had 38,000 purchase tickets last year for their home show. They build expensive homes.
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Chadwick stated that he wants to see a preliminary plat that is clean, with a true access for the Fire
Department, the road widening, and pressurized irrigation. He would like Shrief to take this back and
clean it up so Council can approve something that is real. He would like to see access that comes across
Flake Lateral. Samples property is not in front of us now, we need to look at this application. He would
like to see it cleaned up and presentable for the City.
The Mayor re-opened public input: Daphane Sossa, 12956 W. Kempshire Court, Star, Idaho, stated that
her concerns were that her house touches a creek where there is all sorts of wildlife, she came here to
ask to have existing trees left there. These are native trees and it won’t help animals if they are
removed. She also talked about the walking path that ends at her back yard, nothing was said about a
fence. If there is a ditch crossing, kids can use the playground equipment.
Applicant – Shrief stated they are proposing a station plan and will meet all requirements. They will
beautify the area. They are not planning a walking path and do not have paths, they have sidewalks.
They will definitely respect their privacy. She would like to come back with a revised plat that the City is
happy with.
The Mayor will leave the public hearing open for now. Yorgason stated that if the Council is wanting to
see new items, we need to leave the public hearing open.
Hershey asked if two weeks was enough time to clear this up with all that’s been discussed. Shrief
stated that within two weeks she can have a conversation, they won’t have an easement. They want to
work with the City. She would like to do what the Council wants.
Yorgason stated that if they come back with something new, you may want to leave the public hearing
open for public comment. The Mayor stated they will leave it open and move to deliberations.
Yorgason stated the Council could deliberate tonight, it is better to leave the public hearing open for any
new items.
Council deliberations - Hershey is happy that someone wants to take this property on. He stated that he
would like to see some real open space, not ditches and some consideration for native plants and
neighbors. The cul-de-sac is a concern. He has not seen a road made for a fire truck that couldn’t also
be used by vehicles. He would like to see preliminary agreements with ditch companies. He wants to
see the alternatives to irrigation spelled out. He has been through Utah, it’s a nice place. He is
concerned about this whole entire subdivision. Homes here should be built of high quality.
Chadwick stated that the hammerhead needs to be gone. There needs to be a connecting road from
Cantle to Hiddenbrook; an irrigation plan if they are not using Saddlebrook’s irrigation and the plat note
needs to be removed. He wants to see the plan for the laterals and eight way diversion and a plan for
Can Ada that follows City Code regarding curb, gutter, sidewalk and lights. What you are going to do
with properties 23 and 24 as the Fire Department needs a turn-around.
Keyes stated that it is clear that there are a lot of gaps between what you presented and what staff and
the Fire Department wants. He was hoping for solutions. What he heard was we are working through
things and no solutions. He is wondering if we should table or deny this and start over. He recognizes
that Mr. Thompson is from out of town, possibly his first Star project. Keyes is inclined to table it, as
long as we don’t have this openness and be in compliance with the requirements and have issues
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addressed that came up tonight. The other things in the staff report is the additional light pole,
Gambrell lights, trees in yards and micro-pathway landscaping.
Nielsen concurs with Keyes and it was very well said. You may want to consider that if you want
Council’s consideration to propose an alternative, use extensive landscaping for the ditches and useful
open spaces and make it a beautiful space with reduced density for larger lots. Recommend that you
take that money that you would put into a crossing, if you don’t put in the crossing that you put the
money in landscaping and make this a beautiful addition to Saddlebrook.
Chadwick moved to table the application to April 17, 2018, Hershey seconded the motion. All aye:
motion carried.
Ordinance No. 268 Eagle Crossroads LLC – The Mayor explained that this was the Ordinance approving
the annexation of the property on the northeast corner of State Street and Highway 16.
Chadwick moved that pursuant to Idaho Code, Section 50-902 the rule requiring an Ordinance to be
read on three different days, with one reading to be in full, be dispensed with and that Ordinance No.
268 be considered after reading once by title only, Nielsen seconded the motion. Roll Call: Hershey,
Keyes, Chadwick, and Nielsen all ayes: motion carried.
Chadwick moved to approve Ordinance No. 268, an Ordinance annexing to the City of Star certain real
properties located in the unincorporated area of Ada County, Idaho, and east of Highway 16; more
specifically identified by parcel numbers below, establishing the zoning classification of the annexed
property as commercial (C2) of approximately 36.46 acres; directing that certified copies of this
Ordinance be filed as provided by law; providing for related matters; and providing for an effective date,
Hershey seconded the motion. All aye: motion carried.
EDC Strategic Plan – The Mayor stated that we are not ready to present the plan and will reschedule it
for a later date.
Reports:
Staff – Chief Vogt stated that they are increasing water flows from Lucky Peak, starting tomorrow it will
be at 1760 cfs, at Glenwood Bridge currently it is 260 cfs. There have been quite a few vehicle burglaries
and opened garage doors. A couple laptops and guns were stolen. Don’t leave expensive things in your
cars. The Safety Night was a success, they hope to have more participants next year. Kim Ingraham put
the night together for safety for kids.
Council – Hershey stated we are 57 days away from elections.
Keyes stated he attended the last Chamber meeting. The Beautification Committee is busy planning for
events and Monday he will attend the Air Quality meeting. They have another opening for someone in
Star.
Chadwick stated that tomorrow night is Transportations first meeting, they will be selecting officers.
LifeSpring Church is getting their parking lot paved. VRT is using the back of the Fire Station for
passengers. He attended Safety Night representing Hunter’s Safety.
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Mayor – The Mayor stated the Chief covered the river rising. He did attend the safety night. He also
talked with Principal Carla Karnes regarding a school safety meeting in Meridian this Thursday morning.
Chadwick stated that the West Ada School District bond election passed. The Elementary School will
have new classrooms, gymnasium and more parking.
Adjournment: The meeting was adjourned at 8:19.
Approved:
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Respectfully submitted: Charlten Bell, Mayor
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Cathy Ward, City Clerk
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Agenda
NOTICE OF
STAR CITY
COUNCIL MEETING
Star City Hall
March 20, 2018
7:00 pm
AGENDA
1. CALL TO ORDER (Welcome/Pledge of Allegiance)
2. ROLL CALL
3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA (Approval of Agenda as it stands/Amend Agenda)
4. CONSENT AGENDA
*All matters listed within the Consent Agenda have been distributed to each member of the Star City Council for
reading and study, they are considered to be routine, and will be enacted by one motion of the Consent Agenda or
placed on the Regular Agenda by request.
A. Approval of Regular Meeting Minutes of March 6, 2018
B. Findings of Fact & Conclusions of Law for: Eagle Crossroads LLC, Comp Map Amendment, Annexation and
Zoning
5. PRESENTATIONS/PUBLIC INPUT
A. Idaho Fish & Wildlife Presentation
B. Ada County Highway Pathways and Bike Paths
6. OLD/NEW BUSINESS
A. Public Hearing: Silkwood Subdivision Preliminary Plat
B. Ordinance No. 268 Eagle Crossroads, LLC.
C. EDC Strategic Plan
7. REPORTS
8. ADJOURNMENT
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