City Council Regular Meeting
Regular MeetingStar, ID · May 21, 2019
Minutes
City of Star
Meeting Minutes
May 21, 2019
The regular meeting of the Star City Council was held on May 21, 2019 at Star City Hall, 10769
W. State Street, Star, Idaho. Mayor Chad Bell called the meeting to order at 7:00 pm and all
stood for the Pledge of Allegiance.
Roll Call: Councilmen David Hershey, Michael Keyes, Trevor Chadwick and Kevin Nielsen
were all present.
Approval of the Agenda: Chadwick moved to approve the Agenda, Keyes seconded the
motion. All ayes: motion carried.
Consent Agenda: Chadwick moved to approve the Consent Agenda consisting of Regular
Meeting Minutes of May 7, 2019 and a Time Extension for the Witte Court N. Subdivision,
Keyes seconded the motion. All ayes: motion carried.
Presentations:
Ada County Assessor – Bob McQuade – McQuade gave a power point presentation (see
attached).
Star Fire Department – Fire Chief Greg Timinsky – The Chief discussed fireworks and that he
gives permits for non-aerial fireworks. The City Code says the conditional use permit requires
approval from the Star Fire District and the conditional use states that it is for non-aerial
fireworks. He is wondering why there are sales of aerial fireworks in Star. He stated that
enforcement is needed. He can come to Council and let the Council know there are non-aerial
fireworks being sold and then the City can revoke the CUP. He has looked at other cities like
Meridian, Eagle and Middleton. He needs help from the Council on how we can stop the sale of
aerial fireworks in Star. Chadwick stated he is not a fan of taking that away from the citizens.
The Chief stated that we are growing fast, and we will have dry grass in July. He doesn’t believe
anyone intentionally starts a fire, but if something starts and the high winds come we could have
something major on our hands.
Keyes stated the more important thing is why aren’t we enforcing our code. We spend an awful
lot of money on our Police force. Chief Vogt stated State Statutes for aerial fireworks include an
exception in that you can purchase non-aerials for carrying out of the State. Currently in City
Code, the public safety section is the only place you can have a permit and it’s on City property.
The Police get inundated with calls on July 5,6 and 7 regarding officers not responding. Citizens
have called Dispatch and no one came out. They deal with personal crimes before property
crimes. When Officers go out they have to ask themselves what is the legal justification and
what is justification to do something? There is language in there for the Administrator, but it is
not clear language for what the charge is, is it a misdemeanor, felony, etc.? They need clear
expectations on what they can do. Chadwick asked what other cities do. They have it in the
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criminal code. It needs to be “you cannot sell and use aerial fireworks” in the criminal code. He
has not found it in code, if the City Attorney can show it to him he will enforce it all day long.
Keyes asked if it is your understanding that State Code is preemptive. The Chief stated he
doesn’t believe that. Keyes asked if the Mayor can unilaterally revoke the permit. Yorgason
stated he cannot without a public hearing. Yorgason stated that vendors are not allowed to sale
aerial fireworks, but they can sell wholesale. The second part is retail fireworks for sale. We
need to cover both wholesale and retail sides of this. The conditional use is for the stand, not for
the selling of fireworks. The Mayor stated they will work on it.
Old / New Business:
Motion to adopt Audit Report for 2017-2018 – Keyes moved to adopt the 2017-2018 Audit
Report, Nielsen seconded the motion. All ayes: motion carried.
Public Hearing: TNT Fireworks Conditional Use Permit – The Mayor reviewed the procedures
for the Public Hearing. This is for a conditional permit. The Mayor asked Council for any ex
parte contact or conflicts of interest. Hearing none, the Mayor opened the public hearing and
asked the Applicant to speak.
Applicant - Wade White, Boise, Idaho, representing TNT Fireworks, stated he is here for a
Conditional Use Permit, he really appreciates the opportunity to sell fireworks and they do not
sneak things in. He believes Council will be swayed by a traffic problem. He thanked Jerry
Taylor and Mike _____. As for the location, whatever you decide makes a difference in the
property. There is an ingress and egress on this property. The Idaho Transportation Department
did approve it for pulling in on the pavement. They will abide by the rules with the construction
fence out front. He appreciates the guys in the City for letting them sell fireworks. It is pretty
embarrassing to come up and talk after a discussion about illegal fireworks. If you don’t want to
have aerials, no problem, but then you will have to deal with the other fireworks stands.
Chadwick asked who owns the property. There were some calls in on traffic problems. White
stated that Jerry Taylor and Mike _____ are the owners and they have no problem with TNT
being there.
Keyes asked if it was White’s intention to sell aerial fireworks. White stated it was.
Public Input - Jerry Taylor, 3410 Hartley, Eagle, stated the property is owned by GM properties
and they have leased a part of it to Mary Lloyd. The part where the fireworks are to be sold is on
the western part of the property.
Carl Wilson, 5275 W. Elmore, Boise stated he runs the stand every year and he’s not sure about
the traffic problem. Traffic isn’t as bad on the 3rd and 5th – they have moved the tent back and
the whole front will be fenced off. About 80% of their business is done on the 3rd and 4th. In
town, they spend about $800 in the retail businesses in town for fuel and everything else. Their
prices are really good, and the neighbors really like us. Very clean and they keep the signage up.
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The Mayor closed the public hearing.
Nielsen stated he feels like Councilman Chadwick, although he will admit to lighting fireworks
off, but has not in the past twelve months. We ask citizens to sign a piece of paper stating they
will not light off illegal fireworks and they all go home and light them off. That bothers him.
Where we have Fat City Fireworks that we can’t do anything about, he doesn’t feel that we
should limit TNT. He is in support of this conditional use permit. With a caution that this could
be the last time.
Hershey never bought fireworks in Star, because he goes to the Hometown Celebration. He has
concerns because of the convoluted rules that we are going to address and fix, and that it’s too
late this year. He asked if putting up construction fencing would help in some fashion. The Fire
Chief stated he doesn’t know if he can answer that. To give someone a loop hole is not going to
fix it.
Keyes stated we could fix this at our very next meeting. He stated the applicant has stated his
intentions were to sell aerial fireworks. He said yes, he is going to violate the code, it makes
Keyes not want to give it to him. Keyes is going to vote no. To address a little more fencing
will address the concerns. He would urge the Council to reject this.
Chadwick stated he has a problem approving something that is illegal in our code. He would
have no problem with the safe and sane fireworks. It is just not right. He will also vote no.
Nielsen asked if we could do something as early as next meeting. Is this something that would
apply to Fat City as well, aren’t they grandfathered in? Yorgason stated that you can make a
code change next week, you have an application in front of you today and as we talked you get
the code that is in place at the time of the application. If you deny the CUP and they come in
with another application, it would be subject to whatever the code is at that time. You can’t table
an application, change the code and then go from there. Yorgason stated that he would have to
look at any sunset clauses that may apply to them and what their original conditions say. He has
not seen their permit. It is a little hard to answer, but when their permit was issued it was based
on the City Code at that time. Changing the code now would not necessarily impact their permit
now. Again, all Yorgason knows is that it appears to be an open ended permit. He does not have
the application in front of him so he’s not sure if it’s a one year or three year. Nielsen would like
Yorgason to review it. Moving forward he wants to address the real problem not just the ruling.
Yorgason stated that it would be helpful to review what your code says so that everyone knows.
So you can’t have retail fireworks in residential districts, the owner has to get approval from the
Fire District before they can get the CUP. Here’s the part that we’ve been talking around, the
dates of the sales have to comply with Idaho Code Section 39-2606. Then it says non-aerial
common fireworks may be sold at retail and used beginning at 12 o’clock midnight June 23 and
ending at midnight on July 5th and beginning at midnight December 26 and ending at midnight
on January 1st. Fireworks may be sold at any time in compliance with Section 39-2605 of Idaho
Code and that’s the section that governs where it says permits are required for public display for
public events using fireworks. Yorgason stated that you don’t have anything else in your code
regarding aerial or non-aerial fireworks that he has seen. Generally, it points back to the State
Code with regards to permits. Nielsen stated that it also talks about retail and wholesale sales.
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Yorgason stated that was correct. Discussion was held about us not violating our own code. It is
a little hard to discuss the nuances because you have retail fireworks, you have wholesale
fireworks, you have aerial fireworks and non-aerial fireworks, Federal Code definitions of
fireworks and then the State Code and licenses. Ward stated that applicants do have to follow
the Fire Department regulations for Fat City and the Fire Department doesn’t allow aerial
fireworks. Nielsen stated the Fire Chief does not have any authority or jurisdiction on that.
Ward stated that everyone gets a statement that says they are not to sell aerial fireworks. Nielsen
asked how we would enforce that. Ward stated that if we are not going to enforce that then we
need to take it out of our conditions. The Mayor stated there would be no way to enforce that
now. Nielsen stated that is where he is coming from, he wants it to be applied fairly to everyone.
Nielsen wants to think a little more about this and make it fair to the applicant. Hershey stated
he would second that. Nielsen moved to table the application for TNT Fireworks to the first
meeting in June, Hershey seconded that. It was a tie vote; the Mayor voted aye to table this to
the first meeting in June as he wants to address the entire issue and to be fair across the board.
Milligan Property Rezone & Development Agreement (continued) - The Mayor stated this is a
continued application and asked Council if they have had any ex parte contact or conflicts of
interest since our last meeting. Hearing none the Mayor re-opened the public hearing asked the
Applicant to come forward and speak.
Applicant - Doug Milligan, 12111 W. Bridger Bay, Star, reviewed the property. The pre-school
is in the Pinewood Lakes and is in the commercial area. The pre-school was approved ten years
ago and there has been no other development there for eight years. His wife runs the pre-school
and been doing that for ten years. She participates in the community and is the top pre-school in
the State. The land is currently zoned Residential (R2) and was never rezoned to commercial.
Jim Durst owned the southern parcel and has not changed the zoning. Their building has been
there and built specifically for the pre-school and has parking and would like it to be
commercial zoned. They have purchased the south lot. They both have ample parking spaces
for each building, they also have a shared parking agreement. They want to rezone both
properties at the same time. They have no direct access onto Bridger Bay Road. They just never
got it rezoned, and so they want to rezone them both together. The empty lot is under contract
now, but there are no guarantees that it will go. The pre-school property will really never be
residential, there is a dentist office next to them and it makes sense to be commercial.
Keyes stated that when you were here last time you gave the HOA some design review, is that
still something you are willing to do. Milligan stated the agreement will be that it is a one-story
building similar to the buildings around it. It is not part of the HOA and they should not really
have a say in what the building will look like. It is their intention to make it nice and not do
anything to take away from that. Keyes stated so you are changing your mind. Milligan is not.
Nielsen had a little different understanding, he believes Milligan has a problem with this body
giving Keyes approval to allow another body to give approvals. Milligan stated he has no
problem, he wants to get it approved. Nielsen doesn’t see that as a condition of the Council.
Keyes asked if we had something that says the building will be compatible along with colors.
Milligan stated that would be okay. Milligan stated that is his request.
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Public Input – Michael Traficante, 301 Selwood Lane, Star, stated he doesn’t see a problem with
this volunteer group, Milligan’s run the premier pre-school and they have always done for the
community. They have had several meetings on this parcel and it would be appropriate. They
will not strain the parking, it will be the neighbors.
Jerry Morrow, 18 S. Selwood Lane, Star, stated there are conditions taking it from residential to
commercial. He is curious as to what conditions are going to be put on this. They are great
neighbors. What would be in the guidelines, at least describe what they are going to do on the
property. Is it a one story? Chadwick stated that it is in the conditions of approval. Morrow is
concerned about the parking lot, Milligan has indicated the parking will change. Chadwick
stated they will have parking requirements.
The Mayor closed the public hearing and moved to deliberations.
Chadwick is in favor of this application. Chadwick moved to approve RZ-19-01 and DA-19-04
Milligan Rezone and Development Agreement with all the conditions, Hershey seconded the
motion. Keyes thought the applicant agreed that the colors and design would be similar to
surrounding buildings. Chadwick amended his motion to add the condition that colors and
design would be similar to surrounding buildings, Hershey amended his seconded. All ayes:
motion carried.
Mark Bridgewater Conditional Use Permit – The Mayor reviewed the procedures and asked
Council if they had any ex parte contact or conflicts of interest. Hearing none, the Mayor opened
the public hearing and asked the Applicant to speak.
Applicant – Mark Bridgewater, 6629 Barney Lane, Meridian, stated this application is for an
accessory building. They purchased this property to build their forever home on and have lived
here since 1974. He loves Idaho and Star. South Star has the essence of 1974. He knows things
are growing. He wants to build an accessory building, motor cycle trailer and a garden shed. He
would love for Council to approve the application for the accessory building.
Keyes asked if the accessory building was for Bridgewater’s personal use. Bridgewater stated
that it was not for commercial use.
Public Input - Billy Ellison, 575 S. Main Street, Star, stated that he has been in the community
twelve years, he brought this property five years ago and he sold half of it to Bridgewater. He is
not in favor of the accessory building ten feet off the property line. The set back off his property
at that time was 50 feet and it is now 10 feet off the property line. His only issue is that really
big building off his fence, he has big bay windows and this building will be in the way. They
haven’t seen the building and he doesn’t want to feel like he’s next to a tire store.
Lenny Riccio, 629 N. Barney Lane, Meridian, stated that his father-in-law is living with them.
He is encouraged by staff with the setbacks and he thinks the neighbors will appreciate it.
Bridgewater is known in the neighborhood by plowing the roads and maintaining the road. He
believes the neighbors and Star will benefit from them in the community. They are the
neighbors you want to know.
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Bridgewater stated that it is a unique piece of property, they originally bought the property and
knew about the mixed-use setbacks and so that is nothing new, those were the setbacks when it
was rezoned. They laid out their site plan accordingly with those setbacks in mind. The
property was previously rezoned. He wants to be a good neighbor. They are building a really
nice house, they haven’t really narrowed it down as to what it looks like; it has to look really nice
because of the really nice house in front. It will increase property values. There are several
unpermitted buildings surrounding them. They are very conscience about the look of the
building. They would love to build a building that is acceptable to the code.
Keyes asked for clarification, there is no other use than the residential use? Bridgewater stated
that they don’t plan to run a commercial business. They have a church in Nampa. They have no
desire to have a commercial business. Keyes asked why are we looking at this as mixed-use?
Bridgewater stated that it is an existing zone.
The Mayor closed the public hearing and moved to deliberation.
Nickel clarified that the residential building has to be 50% built prior to the accessory structure
being built. Regarding the use, it is unique piece of property, zoned mixed use and was never
built on. It has a perpetual use and it is allowed for the single family. This application does meet
this requirement.
Keyes stated there was a pre-existing condition of a 50-foot setback, the only reference was a site
plan showing a duplex with a setback, but it did not have a site plan for residential.
Chadwick moved to approve the Bridgewater Conditional Use Permit with conditions, Nielsen
seconded the motion. Keyes stated this will illuminate the questions, we had an applicant that
wanted to have a mixed-use designation, he doesn’t believe he is being inconsistent. Hershey
had the same thought cross his mind too.
Yorgason stated that when this was rezoned there was a perpetual approval, Council is not
looking at the residence, you are looking at the accessory building. All ayes: motion carried.
Resolution to discuss the Remote Attendance and Accessibility Property - Hershey stated that all
of us sitting up here are elected officials, but not like senators, we all have other jobs. He for one
would love to have something like this in place as his job does require him to leave town and he
believes it does not negate the wish to serve. He is all for this.
The Mayor asked for clarification as to what we are all thinking; we have a telephone over there
to do call ins on. What is the technology that we are wanting? Chadwick stated it is to televise
live on the internet and to make the City more available and citizens may want to look into it.
He believes it is time to look into this.
Nielson stated that the success of being able to call in that was technology provided by JR
Simplot. The ability to hear is due to that technology, the Microsoft 360 is the access. He thinks
that it is appropriate for the City to do that. He appreciates Mr. Keyes putting this together. He
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does want to move us ahead and he believes it will help our community. It will move us ahead,
it needs to be a positive thing. The Mayor stated he wants to know more about this. He has
talked to several Mayors and only a few do this, but the rest don’t. Basically, what he found out
was there will be some significant expense up front. He wants to know cost. The city’s doing
this also have a full IT staff to run the cameras and that’s fine, he just wants to know the full
scope. Nielsen believes that is a fair point, the City would have latitude and there is no need for
a full time IT staff. The Mayor doesn’t have a problem with that, but he wants to know the
scope. Nielsen agrees. The Mayor wants to make sure we know the cost. We put a plan
together, then we can approve the budget. There is ample time to do it. It is a discussion item
only tonight and we can put it on a future agenda. He wants to speak to the questions. Keyes
will review the question.
Keyes stated this Resolution was done with Mayor Ridgeway for another committee. He thinks
we can do it for less than $5,000.
Keyes stated that he asked for this to be on the agenda as an action item to move forward. The
Mayor stated it will be on the next agenda.
Executive Session: Chadwick moved to go into Executive Session under Idaho Code Statute
74-206(1)(c) Pending Property Acquisition, Keyes seconded the motion. Roll Call: Hershey,
Keyes, Chadwick, Nielsen – all ayes: motion carried.
Council came out of Executive Session and Keyes moved to pursue the property to include
conditions provided by staff, Chadwick seconded the motion. All ayes: motion carried.
Yorgason emailed everyone a copy of Meridian’s ordinance.
Adjourned: The meeting was adjourned at 9:31 pm.
Approved:
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Charlten Bell, Mayor
Respectfully submitted:
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Cathy Ward, City Clerk
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Agenda
NOTICE OF AMENDED
STAR CITY COUNCIL
MEETING
City Hall
May 21, 2019
7:00 pm
AGENDA
1. CALL TO ORDER (Welcome/Pledge of Allegiance)
2. ROLL CALL
3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA (Approval of Agenda as it stands/Amend Agenda) Action Item
4. CONSENT AGENDA Action Items
*All matters listed within the Consent Agenda have been distributed to each member of the Star City Council for
reading and study, they are considered to be routine, and will be enacted by one motion of the Consent Agenda or
placed on the Regular Agenda by request.
A. Regular Meeting Minutes of May 7, 2019
B. Time Extension – Witte Court N Subdivision
5. PRESENTATIONS Action Item
A. Ada County Assessor – Bob McQuade
B. Star Fire Department – Chief Greg Timinsky
6. OLD/NEW BUSINESS Action Items
A. Motion to adopt Audit Report for 2017-2018
B. Public Hearing: TNT Fireworks Conditional Use Permit
C. Public Hearing: Milligan Property Rezone & Development Agreement
D. Public Hearing: Mark Bridgewater Conditional Use Permit
E. Discussion: Council Public Meeting Remote Attendance and Accessibility Policy
7. EXECUTIVE SESSION under Idaho Code Statue 74-206 (1) (c) Pending Property
Acquisition
8. POSSIBLE ACTION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION Action Item
9. REPORTS
10. ADJOURNMENT Action Item
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