City Council Special Meeting
Special MeetingStar, ID · April 12, 2006
Minutes
CITY OF STAR
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
April 12, 2006
A special meeting of the Star City Council was called to order by Mayor Nathan Mitchell at
6:00 pm at the Star Fire Station.
Roll Call: Councilpersons Tammy McDaniel, Dustin Christopherson, Tom Erlebach and
Chad Bell were all present.
Mayor Mitchell asked Council members to introduce themselves. The Comprehensive Plan
Review Committee (CPRC), Ryan Cleverley, Darrel Gazzola, Bob Lenigan, Jerome Mapp,
Kari Rosti, Richard Tinsley, and Brenda Weaver, introduced themselves and gave some
background information about themselves.
The Mayor explained that this meeting was scheduled to explain the scope of the work this
committee would be doing.
Jerome Mapp explained there are two projects involved; to complete the updating of the
Comprehensive Plan by December 2006 and to update and codify the Zoning and
Subdivision Ordinances. The Comprehensive Plan is the guide plan for the City while the
Zoning and Subdivision Ordinances are the action pieces. Mapp stated there are missing
items in the Comp Plan such as, definitions, policies or goals, policy to form guidelines, the
need to add graphics, and the housing section needs to better explain the different kinds of
housing types.
There are different definitions of streets in the Subdivision and Zoning Ordinances, and
streets need to be better defined. He pointed out that the City has no jurisdiction on streets,
ACHD does. There will need to be more discussion on private roads.
There will need to be discussion regarding open space. In the Subdivision Ordinance, there
is no discussion of where the numbers come from – there needs to be logic to them.
Golf courses are not considered open space – usually they are. The location of sidewalks and
dealing with storm water also needs to be addressed.
Zoning and density will need to be reviewed. Mapp would like to see density information on
the pages you are looking at and not have to flip back and forth to find it.
Daycares not being allowed in residential zones needs to be looked at.
The Mayor stated that he would have City Hall make copies of the Zoning and Subdivision
ordinances for the CPRC members.
Development agreements need to be better defined. The use of development agreements take
a lot of staff time in verifying they are followed. The Mayor explained what development
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agreements are – a contract between the property and the City. An agreement can designate
certain uses allowed in a certain area. Better ordinances would mean less need for
development agreements.
Mapp pointed out that they will need to define the downtown area, set parameters, and
strengthen them with the Zoning Ordinance.
All three documents have different sets of definitions and will need to be made consistent
between each other. Also, graphics need to be added to all three documents.
Mapp stated he will explain the Comp Plan and all the different pieces of land use planning
to the committee at the first meeting. The plan is to have the committee meet once a month
and he will provide information to members roughly two weeks before the meeting to review
and work on. He suggested they go to Idaho Planning Associations website
(idahoplanningassoc.com) which explains the mandate for land use planning. It also has a
link to State Statutes.
He has been looking over the demographics in the Comp Plan and feels the COMPASS
numbers are low. The Mayor explained the statistics are still for the original area of impact
of four miles. The CPRC will need to develop new statistics.
At the second meeting, Mapp stated he planned to review the elements of the Comp Plan and
they will then review each element once a month. The CPRC will be growing the City and
giving it direction for the future.
Bell asked what the time frame is to get all this done. Mapp stated they are looking at June
2007 for everything.
Bell stated he feels they will have to do all three documents at the same time to some degree.
The Mayor explained that as they discuss items in the Comp Plan they will need to take them
to the Zoning and Subdivision Ordinances. It would be better to put them into place then,
instead of bringing them up again later.
Bell stated that he realized the Council will not be sitting in on all the meetings, but
there may be times when the Council will need to meet with the CPRC and look at the
ordinances.
Mapp explained they may be doing quarterly reports to the Council to keep them informed.
They will have at least one open house for the public during the process.
The Mayor explained that the CPRC will discuss issues and make decisions. The Council
will be separate from this process. Once decisions are made, the CPRC will take these
recommendations before the City Council for approval. The Mayor will only cast a vote in
the case of a tie within the CPRC.
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Mapp stated that he will have notebooks for everyone with information to review the pros
and cons of issues. Idaho Code is different from anywhere else in the country – we can’t
always do what is done in other states. Mapp will be reviewing decisions to make sure
suggestions are legal.
McDaniel asked if Mapp has done land use in other states. Mapp replied that he has only
done it in Idaho.
Erlebach asked if there were any guidelines to define the downtown area. Mapp stated that
there was not, the best plan is to use logic with a variety of planning. The CPRC will need to
define where downtown is; which may take years to build it out to the defined area. He
recommends creating a downtown master plan and maybe getting a Community
Development Block Grant to help create it.
The Mayor stated they may need to assist with a Master Park Plan also.
Weaver asked as things change during this process, how the Council will make decisions
while they are making new decisions. The Mayor explained that as the CPRC makes
decisions, the Council will see their direction and will use them in making decisions. They
will share with applicants the information on the direction they want to go and they will
usually work with us.
Bell wanted to know how far into the process will they go before they will change the comp
plan map, as most people look at the comp plan map and think it is the comp plan. Mapp
explained they usually change the map at the end and then develop a zoning map.
The Mayor assured the CPRC that they will be educated on what the documents are. If they
see the Council going against what they are trying to do they need to point it out and slow
them down. Mapp reiterated they will learn the terms and how land use is done.
Mapp shared both of his e-mail addresses with the CPRC and everyone indicated they were
okay communicating by e-mail.
Christopherson asked if the Council will officially approve the updates as they go along.
Mapp stated they will not be officially approved as they go along but the Council will see the
sections as they are revised to work with.
Lenigan asked if the town will review and approve the documents. The Mayor reiterated the
Council will approve the documents not the citizens. Mapp pointed out the CPRC will be
making recommendations to the Council to approve or modify. There will be an open house
for the community to review the documents. The Mayor explained they will be showing
what they are doing and you will be getting feed back. Mapp explained that at a public
hearing they are usually there to complain, not to give suggestions. Public hearings are not
the best way to get public input.
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Weaver asked how the public will be giving them information. Also, is the CPRC allowed to
share information with the public? Mapp explained the public will not be giving input at
committee meetings. The Mayor explained communication is to go through City Hall. The
CPCR is made up of a diverse group and they will get information from their contacts. There
will be no official public hearing, but the CPRC is free to discuss issues with their contacts.
All meetings will be open to the public, but not open for their discussion. Meetings will be
run like a council meeting. Mapp pointed out that the group will work out the details and
then present them at the open house. They have used comment sheets in the past to get
public input.
Bell stated that from their meeting at Cascade the Council knew they needed to update these
documents. You will be recognizing where to put things, such as, schools, parks, etc.
Mapp stated he will set a date in May, a Wednesday per group preference, for the next
meeting. The Mayor indicated City Hall will e-mail the date and will print up copies of the
Zoning and Subdivision Ordinances for members to pick up. Tonight’s meeting was just to
give the group an idea of what is expected from them. This is their process and he asked
them to let the Council know what they want and to let them know if they overstep
boundaries.
The Mayor asked if there were any questions from the CPRC; there were none.
ADJOURNMENT: Christopherson moved to adjourn the meeting, McDaniel seconded the
motion. All Aye: motion carried. The meeting was adjourned at 7:15 pm.
Respectfully submitted: Approved:
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Kathleen Hutton, Deputy Clerk Nathan Mitchell, Mayor
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Agenda
Notice of
Special City Council Meeting
Star Fire Station
April 12, 2006
6:00 pm
AGENDA
1. Roll Call
2. Comp Plan Review Committee
3. Review Scope of Work – Jerome Mapp
4. Adjournment
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