City Council Special Meeting
Special MeetingStar, ID · December 11, 2018
Minutes
Star City Council
Special Meeting Minutes
December 11, 2018
A special meeting of the Star City Council was held on December 11, 2018 at 7:00 pm at Star City Hall,
10769 W. State Street, Star, Idaho. Mayor Chad Bell called the meeting to order and all stood for the
Pledge of Allegiance.
Roll Call: Councilmen David Hershey, Michael Keyes, Trevor Chadwick, and Kevin Nielsen were all
present.
Approval of Agenda: Chadwick moved to approve the agenda, adding 4B Resolution No. 2018-11
Approval of Agreement for Real Property Ownership, Keyes seconded the motion. All ayes: motion
carried.
New Business:
Joint Agreement with Star Fire District for Acquisition of Property: Mayor Bell explained the process
tonight would be to have Chief Timinsky present, then Bill Gigray, Legal Counsel for the Fire District, to
make additional comments, Council will then discuss, and then if anyone from the public wished to speak
they would be given an opportunity. He explained they were here tonight to discuss the purchase of
property by both the Fire District and the City jointly, with the Fire Department ultimately owning the
building. The property they are talking about is on State Street, west of town, which used to be the
vitamin factory. The Fire Department has successfully made an offer below the original asking price.
Because the Fire Department does not have the funds for the total purchase price, the City has offered to
jointly buy the property with them. The Fire Department will be responsible to pay to remodel the new
facility and when the remodel is complete they will move the current station over to the new facility.
They will then sell the station next door and the City will have first right of refusal to purchase it. They
have outgrown the current facility and the living quarters are insufficient. He will have Chief Timinsky
explain their options. They feel by doing this they will be saving the taxpayers money due to the cost of
building a new fire station versus purchasing this existing building and remodeling it. He noted the City’s
funds would still be secure.
Greg Timinsky, Fire Department Chief, presented Mayor and Council with written comments and read
them into the record (copy attached).
Hershey asked if he understood that to build a new building for $6.4 million it would be to house the
station only and would not include a training area, maintenance or administrative offices. Chief Timinsky
stated that was correct, and the $6.4 million figure was from construction of a station in Meridian.
Keyes asked about option #1 which stated it would cost $375 square foot to remodel the current station,
and asked if that would include demolition cost. Timinsky stated it did include demolition. Keyes asked
why it would cost $640 square foot, without demolition, to build a new station; why such a discrepancy in
the numbers. Timinsky stated infrastructure is already to this station, while at a new site all of this would
have to be put in, in addition to building a structure.
Nielsen asked Timinsky to elaborate on some of the standards that are not being met. Timinsky stated a
sample would be that the footings won't handle a remodel, the electrical and plumbing were built to
residential standards and do not meet current code, the stairway doesn't meet current code, the living area
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is no longer large enough, and the footing in the bay area won't accommodate any additional height
addition.
Mayor Bell asked William Gigray to give a rundown of the agreement and how it would work.
William Gigray, III, 5700 East Franklin, Nampa, Idaho, stated he serves as Legal Counsel for the Star
Fire Protection District. He stated this matter was brought to him by the Chief and Commissioners of the
Star Fire District of the potential opportunity that had arose to purchase this 3.2 acre parcel with a 36,000
square foot building and that there may be a narrow window of opportunity in which to purchase. If they
were able to purchase, they would then need to vacate the current Station No. 1 and offer it for sale; or it
would open the facility to be available to the City. He was asked to prepare a joint agreement between
the City and the Fire District to purchase the property. Gigray stated he had been working with Chris
Yorgason, Legal Counsel for the City, and incorporated Yorgason's comments in the agreement put
before the Council for consideration.
Gigray summarized the provisions in the agreement:
1) It will be recorded in addition to the deed being recorded granting property from the bank to the City
and the Fire District, so everyone is aware that this property, as well as Station #1, is subject to the terms
and condition of this agreement.
2) Agreement provides for the initial purchase of the property, Fire District to pay $100,000.00 and the
City paying $1,800,000.00 initial cost. The Fire District will pay for remodel costs.
3) The City will get an annual value evaluation and it provides the valuation will increase based on the
LGIP interest amount.
4) Once the property is purchased it will be the responsibility of the Fire District to maintain, and pay for
insurance and utilities.
5) The Fire District will be responsible to deal with the existing renter in the building, with the possibility
of negotiating an ongoing rental agreement. Any rental money received will apply to maintenance costs.
6) It will be the responsibility of the Fire District to proceed with the remodel; valuation of the Fire
Station will increase with the remodel improvements.
7) The agreement provides the City can purchase Station #1 at anytime following the term of this
agreement. After the remodel it is the intent of the Fire District to purchase the City's interest in the
property.
8) Per terms of the agreement the City can seek final payment after thirty-six months. It is the intent of
the Fire District to go for a bond to pay for the City's investment in the property.
Gigray discussed the process for evaluating the value of Station #1 if the City chooses to purchase it.
Both parties can agree on a value or the City can seek an appraisal and both parties will approve the
appraisal. Gigray noted there are several options for repaying the City for their investment.
Keyes asked Gigray if he could discuss the results of any recent appraisal of the new building. Gigray
deferred to Chief Timinsky who stated the bank had appraised the property at $2.4 million and the County
appraised the property at $3.2 million. Mayor Bell noted the bank's original asking price was $3.2
million, but they have accepted an offer of $1.9 million if they exercise purchase by the end of December.
Keyes asked about the market value of Station #1. Timinsky stated their appraisal is six years old and
without looking it up, it was at $500,000.00 to $600,000.00.
Nielsen asked about Section 8.2.2.4 and asked as the Fire District makes a payment to the City, how is
that payment applied - applied wholly as ownership transfer to the Fire District or would there be a
percentage of that going to the investment rate of return. Gigray stated the Fire District has the option to
make payments. After a payments made, the City and Fire District have to approve a new evaluation of
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the value of the building. This is a deliberate process where the City and Fire District know at all times
what the value of that building is. It is better if parties know where they are along the way; it avoids each
party thinking of different values. He stated he has done joint agreements before with other agencies and
they have worked well.
Chadwick asked in reference to Section 8.2.3, as to when does the Fire District plan to do the remodel.
Gigray stated he understood that once the property is closed on they intend to proceed with request for
qualifications. Chadwick asked if they have the funding to do the actual remodeling, to which it was
stated they do. Chadwick noted that for the City budgeting next August the ownership value would be at
the default value of $1.8 million as they would be in the remodeling phase. Chadwick stated he felt they
should add something that they do an evaluation at the completion of the remodel. Nielsen noted that
Section 8.2.3.1 does state following the completion.
The Mayor wanting to make it clear, stated what they are proposing is the City would take $1.8 million
dollars from our State Investment Pool and purchase this property jointly with the Fire District. The Fire
District will pay the City back at the same rate the City would have received from the State Investment
Pool, so the money would continue to grow at the same rate it is now. The term of this agreement is
thirty-six months after the date of closing; meaning the City has the right to call this due at the end of
thirty-six months. This would allow them time to find other ways to finance the purchase from the City.
Nielsen noted we wouldn't be calling it due; we would be exercising our option to be bought out. The
Mayor noted he felt it was a great opportunity for the community because they would have a new fire
station costing around three million dollars, which will save taxpayers money versus the cost of a new
station being built. This facility will allow for growth for many years.
Nielsen stated he would like to have a discussion about the percentage they might get from the State
Investment Fund. If we're doing this for the benefit of the public, because we have joint taxpayers that
both entities serve; he asked why the City would charge a percentage on the sale to the Fire District if
they are going to have to go out for a bond and increase the tax load to the citizens. He asked why the
City would try to collect that; he felt it was a double taxation. If this is for the benefit of the public, he
stated he would like to hear everyone's thoughts on this. Keyes stated that although they share the same
tax base in general and because they are two different entities and do maintain separate P & L's; he felt to
be good stewards they need to see the City's P & L does not appear to have a negative impact by going
through this process. For that reason he felt it is important to maintain the LGIP equivalent return they
would have gotten anyway off of the taxpayers' dollars. Chadwick stated he concurred with Keyes and
they have a responsibility to be good stewards with their money to the taxpayers.
Hershey stated if they do get a bond they would take ownership of the property sooner and the City would
be done with joint ownership. If it took only a year, we wouldn't be collecting this over three years; their
bond would be completely separate and we would be done. He stated he didn't see double in there
anywhere. Nielsen stated he felt it was double because the money was collect from the citizens to put in
the investment pool and when the Fire District goes out for a bond to pay this back the citizens are taxed
again just to put that money back in. Discussion followed on the options to have the money paid back in
three years.
Mayor Bell invited comments from the public.
Richard Stuppy, 22153 CanAda Road, Star, asked about the cost for the new facility. The Mayor and
Timinsky stated they estimate it to be less than $100.00 per square foot once it is remodeled.
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Denise VanDoren, 11071 Frost Street, Star, stated she is curious as to why the City chose this route rather
than just purchasing it and then leasing it with an option for the Fire District to buy. It seems they could
do the improvements and then at the end of the day it seems to come out in the wash and would be less
complicated. The Mayor stated they talked with Legal Counsel on both sides and decided this was the
best and cleanest way for government entities to do it. VanDoren stated this sounded like a loan. The
Mayor reiterated this is not a loan, they are purchasing jointly. VanDoren stated she is not opposed, felt it
was a good location and a great opportunity; she was just curious. Nielsen stated from his perspective
the City wasn't necessarily interested in being in the owner/tenant business. Doing it this way the Fire
District remains obligated for all the building repairs and maintenance and ongoing things of that nature.
We are a financial partner not an operating partner.
Gary Smith, 258 Langer Lake Way, Star, stated he is concerned that taxes are going up continually. He is
hearing his neighbors asking why are taxes going up and are very concerned. A lot of people in Star are
on fixed incomes and an increase in taxes greatly affects them. He asked if they are seriously considering
this that they think about how this affects the citizens and their taxes. He stated he liked saving money,
and this is a good plan as long as it doesn't impact taxes. His other concern is the location they are
looking at and concerned with noise from fire trucks in a residential area. Also of concern with the
location is when Albertsons opens that intersection is going to be congested. This congestion should be
taken into consideration when thinking about approval. Smith asked if this will have a public meeting for
the City and then another for the Fire District before this is approved. The Mayor stated that is what this
is tonight; this is not a public hearing tonight, but is a public meeting at which the public can give
comments. The Fire District will have a Board meeting Thursday night which is also a public meeting.
After their meeting Thursday night it will be either approved or denied.
Mayor Bell asked for Council discussion and whether they felt anything needed to be changed in the
agreement put before them.
Chadwick commented that he believes this is a win/win for the citizens of Star. To go back to what Smith
said about responsibility with taxes to the taxpayers; if the Fire District would have to build a new station
it would be $10 million dollars. To get a building for $3 million is being responsible by saving $7million.
He stated traffic is a concern and will continue to be. They will probably put in an emergency signal
light. As for noise, he felt it won't be any different than fire trucks driving in that direction. Chadwick
stated he is for the purchase of this facility and felt they should proceed forward.
Hershey added he felt this is the cheapest route. The building next door will no longer accommodate the
needs of Star. This building will not only accommodate the needs of Star but sounds like it can handle an
influx of a second engine company, the maintenance and logistics for training as well as possibly large
rooms the City could use on occasion. He stated he felt taxes are important, but the saving of millions
which are going to have to be spent sooner or later is important. Hershey stated he felt this is one of the
soundest things they can do. They have protections in place with this resolution if it were all to go south,
which he doubted it will. Hershey stated he is in support of this resolution.
Nielsen stated he is pleased with the results of this. He stated he felt this is one of the better actions that
could possibly be taken to provide the City with fire protection and the needs of the Fire District and to
meet the needs of our citizens.
Resolution No 2018-11 Approval of Agreement For Real Property Ownership: Nielsen moved to
approve Resolution No. 2018-11 the Agreement for Real Property Ownership, Chadwick
seconded the motion. Keyes stated because this would save the Fire Department over three-
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million dollars over the next ten years and we have about three-thousand homes in the city of
Star, the math works out to about a thousand dollars per house. He noted this is real money they
are able to help our taxpayers save. He stated he is in support of this Resolution. All ayes:
motion carried.
Mayor Bell stated he felt extremely good about this and that it will be an asset to this community
for public safety. He thanked the Chief and everyone involved in making this happen.
Adjournment: The Mayor adjourned the meeting at 8:05 pm.
Approved:
Respectfully submitted: _____________________________
Charlten Bell, Mayor
_________________________________
Kathleen E. Hutton, Deputy City Clerk
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Agenda
NOTICE OF
SPECIAL
STAR CITY
COUNCIL MEETING
Star City Hall
10769 W. State Street
December 11, 2018
7:00 pm
AGENDA
1. CALL TO ORDER (Welcome/Pledge of Allegiance)
2. ROLL CALL
3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA (Approval of agenda s it stand/amend Agenda) ACTION ITEM
4. NEW BUSINESS ACTION ITEM
A. Joint Agreement with Star Fire District for Acquisition of Property
B. Resolution No 2018-11 Approval of Agreement For Real Property Ownership
5. ADJOURNMENT ACTION ITEM
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