Borough Council
Regular MeetingStroudsburg, PA · July 2, 2020
Minutes
STROUDSBURG BOROUGH COUNCIL
SPECIAL MEETING, JULY 2, 2020
MINUTES
A special meeting of the Stroudsburg Borough Council convened via Zoom and was
livestreamed through the Stroudsburg Borough Facebook page at 5:00 P.M. on July 2, 2020 with
the following members present: Anthony Lanfrank, Council President; Matt Abell, Vice-
President of Council; Erica McCabe, Council President Pro-Tem; Jim Evanisko, Council
Member; Victoria Devries, Council Member; and Boyd Weiss, Council Member. Council
Member James Smith was not present. Also present were: Brian Ace, Jr., Borough Manager;
Tarah Probst, Mayor; Joseph McDonald, Jr., Borough Solicitor; Mary Pat Quinn, Executive
Assistant; Ken Sandri, H.A.R.B. Member; Ted Hoyt, H.A.R.B. Member; and Dan Lichty,
H.A.R.B. Member. Todd Weitzmann, Esq. was present.
The following individuals were present to represent the County of Monroe: the Honorable
Margherita Patti-Worthington, President Judge; the Honorable Jonathan Mark, Judge; Sharon
Laverdure, Chairman of the Monroe County Commissioners; John Christy, Monroe County
Commissioner; Timothy McManus, Esq., Monroe County Solicitor; Rick Macia, Architect; Andre
Voss, Project Manager, CGL (design architects); Rob Fisch, Project Principal, CGL; Christopher
Gehm, Project Executive, WH Lane; Ting Tsai, CGL; and Dominika Barszcz, CGL.
Review and discuss the Historical Architectural Review Board Application of the County of
Monroe for an addition and renovations to the Monroe County Courthouse at 610 Monroe
Street
Mr. Lanfrank stated that the sole purpose of the meeting was to discuss the County's application
for the expansion of the courthouse. No other matters would be discussed, and formal action
would not be taken at this meeting. The Borough Council will be checking to see if it meets the
standards of Borough Code when building or expanding in the Historic District. The courthouse
project is a huge project that everyone wants to see done and fit in with the historic charm of
Stroudsburg. Mr. Lanfrank advised that he reviewed the architects’ notes, HARB's notes and
video, and the architecture of the historic courthouse. He asked what standards were used to
determine if this project was appropriate or not. If Brief 14 of the National Preservation
Standards was used,he suggested that the new addition does not compliment the original
courthouse. Mr. Lanfrank questioned whether HARB would have approved a similar building
on Main Street according to the HARB Ordinance in the Borough Code.
There are seven main character defining features of the historic courthouse architectural
style that follow a Richardsonian Romanesque Architecture. They are 1) rounded arched
windows;2) a tower with a hipped roof; 3) pitched rough stone exterior; 4) a formal entryway
with columns, double doors, iron railings; 5) groupings of banked windows; 6) parapet gables;
and 7) a tall chimney. He asked which, if any, of the seven characteristics have been
incorporated in to the new addition.
He suggested that if the entryway of the expansion complemented the courthouse it would go a
long wayfor example, by adding arched windows and a formalized entryway to the entrance of
the building that compliments the courthouse as well as a tower above the clock, which would
also compliment the courthouse. A cosmetic change of tan cast stone, like what was used at the
ESU Dormitories, might be considered for the facade of the first story on the new building
keeping the yellow-tan brick on the second and third stories. A reddish, brown pointing mortar
for the first floor to tie in the color of the courthouse. The first story of the building being a cast
stone like the courthouse has a symbolic historical meaning, too.The cast stone nature of the
facade on the expansion points to the physical foundation of our County's historic past.These
changes would meet the intent of Preservation Brief 14 as well as the HARB Ordinance of the
Borough Code. He welcomed working with the County to add some of these features into the
expansion project.
Mr. Abell noted that if the Borough Council does not accept HARB’s recommendation for
approval of the proposed Courthouse Expansion design, then the Council is required by the
Borough Code to reference specific areas of the design that do not comply with the Historic
Preservation Ordinance. Suggestions would need to be offered by Council on design changes
that would warrant approval by Council. He offered the following comments and referred to the
architect’s elevation and 3D renderings on pages 29 through 44 of the County’s HARB
application:
Ordinance 901, 214.1.B.2On the new addition, the windows on all three stories to the left of the
main entrance are “banked” windows of five, which are not found on any other structures in the
district nearby. The little rectangular windows between the facade “bump-outs” on Sixth and
Sarah Streets break up the “uniform height” of windows recommended by the ordinance and
gives it the unfortunate appearance of a prison as viewed from Sixth and Sarah Streets. The huge
expanse of glass at the main entrance is not at all complementary to nearby historic structures,
though it could perhaps be considered a “non-functioning accent window” according to the
ordinance.
Recommended changes: Replace the “banked” windows left of the main entrance with individual
rectangular windows of the same sizes as shown throughout the rest of the project. Replace the
small rectangular windows on Sixth and Sarah Streets with windows of the same height as those
on the “bumped-out” facades; the width of these windows could remain narrow if desired, so
long as the top and bottom of the windows lined up with the other windows to establish a
uniform height.
Ordinance 901, 214.1.B.3 The little rectangular windows between the facade “bump-outs” on
Sixth and Sarah Streets are oddly situated, with some windows located uniformly between the
bump-outs, and other windows oddly cut off at the edge of the bump-out. This breaks up the
“rhythm of solids to voids” recommended by the ordinance and is a design choice not reflected at
all in nearby historic structures. Tripled architectural elements, which are one of the defining
characteristics of the Richardsonian Romanesque style of our historic courthouse, are not echoed
at all in the new addition -- in fact, doubled and quadrupled elements define the proposed
addition instead, along both the Sixth and Sarah Street elevations.
Recommended changes: Situate all the windows between facade “bump-outs” so that they are
distributed equally across the building and not cut off at the edge of the bump-out; this will
establish a clearer pattern of solids to voids and better respect historic design standards.
Regarding the north elevation from Sarah Street, replace the twin facade bump-outs with a single
bump-out in the center of the new addition to emulate the massing of the original courthouse
structure, with all other elements of the new addition organized into thirds around this central
feature.
Ordinance 901, 214.1.B.12 The proposed expansion brings the building mass closer to Monroe
Street than the original courthouse, allowing for less green space and looming over the view
from Sixth Street toward the historic courthouse. In particular, the one-story portion of the
addition that wraps around from Sixth Street to Monroe encroaches on the pedestrian space in a
way that the original historic structure, at the opposite corner, does not.
Recommended changes: To complement and reflect the design of the original courthouse’s
iconic tower, the proposed addition should not have any elements located in front of, or in the
same plane as, the clock tower mass.
Ordinance 901, 214.1.B.23 The iconic hooded windows on the original courthouse are not
reflected at all in the new design. On the new addition, the windows on all three stories to the left
of the main entrance are “banked” windows of five, which don’t relate to any other element on
the addition nor to the original courthouse. The smaller rectangular windows between the façade
“bump-outs” are much smaller than typical residential windows nearby. The large expanse of
glass at the main entrance is thoroughly contemporary, without taking any cues from accent
windows in nearby historic structures.
Recommended changes: Replace all rectangular windows within façade bump-outs with hooded
windows similar to that found on all three stories of the historic courthouse. Consider replacing
the large expanse of aluminum-framed window glazing at the main entry with a series of tall,
arched windows to pay tribute to the large, iconic windows of our historic courthouse. As
suggested previously under Section 901, 214.1.B.2, replace “banked” windows left of the main
entrance with individual rectangular windows, and replace small rectangular windows on Sixth
and Sarah Streets with windows of the same height as those on “bumped-out” facades to
establish a uniform height.
Mr. Abell stated that there are good examples of arched windows in modern architectural
projects. The suggestion that a redesign would delay the project several months causing higher
escalation which raises costs is not the Borough Council’s intention. The County and its
architectural firm need to involve and reflect the community in the design process.
Solicitor McManus asked Rick Macia, L.P.A. to review the supplemental information. Mr.
Macia provided a supplemental presentation outlining the design approach and more specific
illustrations of his firm’s approach to comply with the HARB Ordinance. Also provided were
“Frequently Asked Questions” that intended to address some questions that have been raised
about the project.
Mr. Evanisko supported the comments made by Mr. Abell. He noted that the proposed clock
would only be visible directly across Monroe Street. He expressed concern about the loss of the
park area and the openness of the proposed plaza. He suggested some sort of covering so that it
could be used by the town for events. Also discussed was possibly lighting the tower downward
and the windows.
Mr. Weiss thanked Mr. Abell for the time and effort he put in to his comments. He supported
many of Mr. Abell’s recommendations.
Mayor Probst supported Mr. Abell’s recommendations.
Ms. McCabe supported Mr. Abell’s recommendations.
Ms. DeVries stated that she would like to see arched windows, and she supported Mr. Abell’s
recommendations.
Commissioner Laverdure advised that the County and the architects have done everything possible
to prepare for this presentation.
Commissioner Christy suggested that there could be arched, ornamental windows in the front of the
building to pay homage to the arches of the existing, historic courthouse. They could see what could
be done with the other windows in the proposed structure, but the arches may not look good on all
of the windows. He asked the Borough Council to provide direction.
President Judge Worthington advised that the discussion about the need for a courthouse expansion
began in 2008; the design discussions with CGL architects have occurred during the past few years.
She appreciated what the Council is doing for the Borough. The architects and the County were
very mindful of the HARB Ordinance, and she believes that the project meets the requirements of
the Ordinance. HARB did approve the project with three dissenting votes; the County is aware of
the reasons from two of the dissenters. She spoke in favor of the glass facade from a security
standpoint.
Judge Mark asked for clarification of the Ordinance, specifically related to comments in the chat
about the proposed building and how it may or may not fit with the designs of residential housing in
the immediate neighborhood. He understood that the Ordinance covers all areas within the Historic
District.
Solicitor McDonald confirmed that this is a district-wide matter not just adjoining or nearby
properties. He referred to a memo dated June 30, 2020 that was sent to him and Council by Earl
“Ted” Hoyt, who is a member of HARB. The Borough Council raised some questions about the
guidelines that area applied by HARB for a Certificate of Appropriateness recommendation. Mr.
Hoyt reached out to Cory Kegerise at Pennsylvania’s State Historic Preservation Office for some
insight. Mr. Kegerise did not render a decision about this project, but he did offer some
background as to the framework of the review. Solicitor McDonald suggested that Council
review the information as a resource. Solicitor McManus asked for a copy of that information.
Mr. Sandri expressed his concern that the design does not reflect or compliment the character
defining features of the Courthouse. He noted the arch or segmented arch is a particular character
defining characteristic. It is present throughout the historic courthouse; however, it is not found in
the proposed addition. The arch could be incorporated into the bump-out bay window openings on
facades on Monroe Street and 6th Street; the two windows on the second and third floors could be
combined into one larger arched window. As for the front glass curtain wall which will light the
interior spaces, large glass openings like that can use an arch to form the top of the glass wall
opening. A metal framework could be used to span a 20- to 30- foot opening.
Solicitor McManus stated that the County will digest what was discussed at the meeting, and
although he has no direction from them yet, there may be a need to table a decision by Council at
their next meeting on July 7, 2020.
The meeting was adjourned at 6:56 P.M. on a motion made by Mr. Abell, seconded by Ms.
DeVries. The motion was carried. (6-yes; 0-no; 0-abstain)
Agenda
AGENDA
Stroudsburg Borough Council Meeting
Thursday, July2, 2020 at 5:00 P.M.
Special Note: This meeting will be held on Zoom.com; the public may submit comments on agenda
items and non-agenda items to the Borough Manager via bace@stroudsburgboro.com prior to the
meeting. The public is also invited to participate via livestream by following the link on the
Stroudsburg Borough Facebook page.
1. Call to Order/Roll Call.
Adequate notice of this meeting was provided by publishing notice in the legal section of The
Pocono Record in the issue of June 30, 2020 and by posting the agenda on the Stroudsburg Borough
website www.stroudsburgboro.com and on the Stroudsburg Borough Facebook page.
2. Pledge of Allegiance.
3. Review and discuss the Historical Architectural Review Board Application of the County of Monroe for
an addition and renovations to the Monroe County Courthouse at 610 Monroe Street
4. Adjournment.
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