Historic Landmarks Commission Packets
Regular MeetingSuffolk, VA · August 14, 2014
Agenda
HISTORIC LANDMARKS COMMISSION
AUGUST 14, 2014
THE REGULAR MEETING WILL BE HELD AT 9:00 A.M. IN
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
SUFFOLK MUNICIPAL BUILDING
NOTE: IF YOU CANNOT ATTEND THIS MEETING, PLEASE CALL
THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING
BY 12:00 NOON, WEDNESDAY, August 13, 2014
514-4060
RANDY HICKS
CHAIRMAN
PREPARED BY THE CITY OF SUFFOLK
DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING & COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
DIVISION OF PLANNING
AGENDA
Historic Landmarks Commission Meeting
Thursday, August 14, 2014
9:00 a.m.
I. Call to Order: Chairman
II. Roll Call
III. Approval of the Minutes for the July 10, 2014
IV. Old Business
A. REQUEST FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS HC-2014-10, submitted
by Melissa J. Dresen, of MSA, P.C., agent for, First Baptist Church Mahan, applicant and
property owner, for: 1) the demolition of an existing residential structure located at 403
N. Main Street; 2) the demolition of an existing residential structure, and an existing
annex building to the main sanctuary building of the First Baptist Church Mahan, and a
portion of an existing parking lot, all located at 409 N. Main Street; 3) the demolition of
an existing residential structure located at 415 N. Main Street; 4) the construction of a
new social hall building / addition to the First Baptist Church Mahan located at 106 and
108 Mahan Street; and 5) other associated site improvements, including the expansion of
the existing adjacent parking lot and access drives, the construction of a dumpster
enclosure, and the construction of a brick veneer and decorative aluminum fence. The
affected property(s) are further identified as Zoning Map 34G11 Block (A) Parcel(s) 98,
99, 100, 126, 127, and 128, Suffolk Voting Borough, and is zoned CBD (Central
Business District), and HC (Historic Conservation Overlay District).
V. New Business
• Enforcement Update
• Administrative Approvals
VI. Adjournment
MINUTES
HISTORIC LANDMARKS COMMISSION
July 10, 2014
9:00 A.M.
The regular meeting of the Historic Landmarks Commission was held on Thursday, July
10, 2014, 9:00 a.m., in the Council Chambers of the Municipal Building, 441 Market
Street, Suffolk, Virginia, with the following persons present:
MEMBERS PRESENT: STAFF:
Susan Coley Robert Goumas, Assistant Director of Planning
Merritt Draper Karla Williams, Deputy City Attorney
Amy Elliott Shanda Davenport, Principal Planner
John Faircloth Thomas Jordan, Planner II
Randy Hicks, Chairman Jillian Scott, Office Assistant II
Edward King
Geraldine Outterbridge
G. Stewart Tyler, Vice Chairman
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Walter Boyette
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Hicks. The roll was called by Mr. Goumas
and the Chairman was informed that a quorum was present. The minutes of the previous
meeting were approved as presented. The Chairman noted the time limits for public
hearings are ten (10) minutes for proponents, fifteen (15) minutes for opponents, and five
(5) minutes for rebuttal.
ELECTION OF OFFICERS
A motion was made by Vice-Chairman Tyler to re-elect Randy Hicks as Chairman, and the
motion was seconded by Commissioner Faircloth and passed by a recorded vote of 8-0. A
motion was made by Commissioner Elliott to re-elect Commissioner Tyler as Vice-
Chairman, and the motion was seconded by Commissioner Faircloth and passed by a
recorded vote of 8-0.
New Business: Enforcement Update
Donald Bennett, (Planning & Community Development) gave an update on the enforcement
actions taken by Community Development for the following properties:
526 W. Washington Street – property maintenance violation, continued until August 4
111 Oakdale Terrace - property maintenance violation, continued until August 4
108 Wellons Street - property maintenance violation, continued until August 4
118 Chestnut Street – property maintenance violation, continued until August 4
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:03 a.m.
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HISTORIC LANDMARKS COMMISSION Motion: Tyler Motion: Elliott
2nd: Faircloth 2nd: Faircloth
TO: RE-Appoint TO: RE-Appoint
Mr. Hicks as Mr. Tyler as
July 10, 2014 Chairman Vice-Chairman
ATTENDANCE Election of Election of
Chairman Vice-Chairman
COMMISSIONERS VOTE: 8-0 VOTE: 8-0
PRESENT ABSENT YES NO YES NO
Boyette, Walter X
Coley, Susan M. X X X
Draper, Merritt X X X
Elliott, Amy X X X
Faircloth, John X X X
King, Edward L. X X X
Outterbridge, Geraldine X X X
Tyler, Stewart G. X X X
Vice-Chairman
Hicks, Randy, X X X
Chairman
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CITY OF SUFFOLK
441 MARKET STREET, P.O. BOX 1858, SUFFOLK, VIRGINIA 23439-1858
PHONE: (757) 514-4060 FAX: (757) 514-4099
DEPARTMENT OF
PLANNING & COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
Division of Planning
To: Historic Landmarks Commission
From: Shanda H. Davenport, Principal Planner
Date: August 14, 2014
Subject: REQUEST FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS HC-2014-10,
submitted by Melissa J. Dresen, of MSA, P.C., agent for, First Baptist Church
Mahan, applicant and property owner, for: 1) the demolition of an existing
residential structure located at 403 N. Main Street; 2) the demolition of an
existing residential structure, and an existing annex building to the main sanctuary
building of the First Baptist Church Mahan, and a portion of an existing parking
lot, all located at 409 N. Main Street; 3) the demolition of an existing residential
structure located at 415 N. Main Street; 4) the construction of a new social hall
building / addition to the First Baptist Church Mahan located at 106 and 108
Mahan Street; and 5) other associated site improvements, including the expansion
of the existing adjacent parking lot and access drives, the construction of a
dumpster enclosure, and the construction of a brick veneer and decorative
aluminum fence. The affected property(s) are further identified as Zoning Map
34G11 Block (A) Parcel(s) 98, 99, 100, 126, 127, and 128, Suffolk Voting
Borough, and is zoned CBD (Central Business District), and HC (Historic
Conservation Overlay District). The 2026 Comprehensive Plan designates this
area as port of the Central Suburban/Urban Growth Area, Mixed-Use
development district.
STAFF REPORT
Background:
On June 12, 2014, the Historic Landmarks Commission conducted a public hearing for the above
reference request made by First Baptist Church Mahan. After discussion by the Commission, a
motion was made by Commissioner Tyler to table the application for up to 6 months to provide
the applicant more time to address items of concern. The motion was seconded by Commissioner
Faircloth and approved by a recorded vote of 6-0. On July 17, 2014 City staff met with the
applicant to discuss what additional information is needed in order for this matter to proceed to
the Historic Landmarks Commission for further review and consideration. Subsequently, the
applicant has offered the attached additional information in support of their application.
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Staff Analysis
As you recall, the proposed project consists of several discrete parts; including the proposed
demolition of three residential structures and the demolition of a wing of the existing First
Baptist Church Mahan; the construction of a new addition to the existing First Baptist Church
Mahan; and the construction of a parking lot, dumpster enclosure and fencing as an accessory to
the newly expanded structure. All of the demolition elements are located within the historic
conservation overlay district. The existing First Baptist Church Mahan is located outside of the
Historic Conservation Overlay District. The proposed addition would, however, be located
within the overlay district and subject to the Commission’s oversight. There are project
elements, such as the reconfiguration of a portion of the parking lot and the renovation and
remodeling of the church which are located outside of the overlay district and are therefore not
within the purview of the Commission.
Based on the additional information provided by the applicant, the following narrative is an
update to City staff’s analysis and report previously provided to the Historic Landmarks
Commission. For reference, please see the Staff Report dated June 12, 2014.
Demolitions:
415 North Main Street – As previously reported, this structure has been identified as being a
contributing structure. It is an important resource within the historic district, providing
continuity to the fabric of this segment of the North Main Street streetscape. In the period since
this matter was last reviewed, the applicant has amended their application, stating that the
demolition of 415 North Main Street is no longer requested, and as shown on the revised
Schematic Site Plan (attached), shall remain in place.
409 North Main Street – As previously reported, this building is a non-contributing structure
along the North Main Street Historic Entry corridor. The demolition would not adversity impact
the character of the district. Care would need to be taken to ensure that any development on the
resultant site would enhance the historic character of the corridor.
403 North Main Street – As previously reported, this structure has been identified as being a
contributing structure. The size and mass of this residential structure provide a dominant anchor
to the intersection of Mahan Street and North Main Street. In the period since this matter was
last reviewed, the applicant has provided additional information in support of the demolition as
stipulated in the provisions of the Suffolk Historic District Design Guidelines.
A structural assessment was conducted and analyzed in a letter from Speight Marshall and
Francis, PC that the structure was in very poor condition and should not be inhabited without
repairs and replacement of many of the wooden structural members. In addition to the structural
assessment previously supplied by the applicant, a feasibility study which explored the possible
relocation or renovation of the structure has been conducted. The engineer who prepared the
study determined that the building cannot be relocated without significantly altering the
structure. While the building is in very poor condition, its presence helps to complete the
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streetscape of North Main Street, an important entry corridor into the Historic Core. Its
prominent corner location further reinforces the impact of the structure. Moving or demolishing
the structure would potentially adversely impact the North Main Street Historic Entry corridor.
Care would need to be taken to ensure that any development on the resultant site would maintain
the enclosure and historic character of the corridor.
The applicant has provided additional information to assist with the determination of hardship as
it applies to the requested demolition. The Commission previously granted approval for the
renovation of 403 North Main Street. However, as the project progressed and estimates were put
together, it became evident that the renovation of structure for office use was not structurally or
economically viable.
Part of the consideration with any request for removal of a contributing property, it is advisable
that the owner exhaust all options with regard to the continued use and maintenance of the
structure. As you can see from the attached correspondence, the applicant has recently reached
out to the community, looking for other options for the structure.
Modification to Existing Structure:
As previously reported, the applicant has requested the demolition of a wing of the existing First
Baptist Mahan Church. The portion of the building proposed for demolition appears to be an
incompatible addition of a fairly utilitarian design and does not appear to be of any significant
historical importance. The demolition would not adversity impact the character of the District or
the Historic Entry corridor. Care would need to be taken to ensure that any development on the
resultant site would enhance the historic character of the District.
Additions:
As previously reported, the applicant is requesting to construct a 10,550 square foot addition for
a new social hall to the existing First Baptist Church Mahan. The addition is proposed on the
east side of the existing sanctuary building. While the addition takes design cues from the main
structure, the addition still reads as subordinate to the original structure. The structure is to be
constructed of brick with precast accents which is compatible with structures throughout the
district. Brick pilasters establish a rhythm and order to the proposed addition which helps to
make the massing of this large structure appropriate within the District.
Site Modifications:
Fencing:
As previously reported, fencing is proposed to be installed along the street frontage on North
Main Street and Mahan Street, and although the Guidelines in regards to fencing are intended to
be applied to residential structures, the proposed fencing is consistent with the design criteria in
terms of appearance and materials identified in Chapter 5 of the Historic District Design
Guidelines.
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Parking:
As previously reported, parking and other site improvements are proposed for this site. In the
period since this matter was last reviewed, and as shown on the revised Schematic Site Plan
(attached), the applicant has amended the conceptual layout of these features.
Both the Unified Development Ordinance and the 2026 Comprehensive Plan establish that
parking should be located at the rear of structures in the Central Business District. The UDO
further institutes that not more than one row of parking may be permitted on the sides of the
structure. The specific standards for the Central Business District also direct that service
entrances and service yards shall be located only in the side or rear yard. The location of the
dumpster enclosure directly adjacent to North Main Street is incompatible with this regulation.
Finally, per Section 31-606(a)(9)F of the UDO, parking must be not be located within ten (10)
feet of any public right-of-way. While compliance with the Unified Development Ordinance is
not within the responsibilities of the Historic Landmarks Commission, it is important to note that
several aspects of the proposed plan may not be in compliance and may need to be modified
prior to final site plan approval.
Summary and Recommendations:
Staff recommends the following with regard to the various portions of the project:
Since the applicant has provided supporting materials which detail the inordinate hardship
associated with demolition of the contributing properties and infeasibility to relocate the building
located at 403 North Main Street, staff does recommend that the demolition be permitted.
However, we further recommend that the applicant continue to seek an organization or individual
that may have an interest in relocating and renovating the structure or even preserving historic
materials and artifacts of the structure. Therefore, the Commission may wish to establish a
timeframe with the applicant during which those activities can occur.
The demolition of the non-contributing residence located at 409 North Main Street is found to be
justified based on the fact that the residence is a non-contributing structure to the Historic
District. Therefore, staff recommends approval of the demolition of 409 North Main Street.
Staff further recommends that the annex wing of the existing First Baptist Church Mahan be
demolished as it is not contributing to the District.
Staff finds that the proposed addition to First Baptist Church Mahan is consistent and compatible
with the general guidelines, commercial building design considerations, and considerations for
new construction along the Historic Entry Corridors as established by the Suffolk Historic
District Design Guidelines. Staff has no objections to the design of the social hall addition and
finds that it is compatible with the district. However, due to its proximity to 403 North Main
Street, the building addition may be reliant upon the approval of the requested demolition of 403
North Main Street.
The applicant has provided an updated site exhibit which does identify an alternate location for
the dumpster enclosure and removes a row of parking along the North Main Street side of the
property. This revised configuration allows for more substantial landscaping along North Main
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Street. In addition to the fence proposed by the previous submittal, the applicant has also
included a monument detailing the history of Colden House at the corner of North Main Street
and Mahan Street. While, the applicant has not submitted a specific design for this feature and
approval through the issuance of a Certificate of Appropriateness will need to be obtained, staff
is supportive of the concept of a feature to help provide an anchor to the streetscape. Therefore,
staff does recommend approval of the general layout and configuration of the site elements.
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Shanda H. Davenport, Principal Planner
Dept. of Planning and Community Development
Suffolk, Virginia 23439
Re: First Baptist Church Mahan
HC-2014-10
Demolition of Residential Structures for improvements at 112 Mahan Street
Dear Ms. Davenport,
I would like to express my thanks to you once again for meeting with us on July 17,
2014 in order to discuss the referenced project. Per that meeting, we have
assembled the following additional information that will hopefully address many of the
questions that have been raised during the initial HLC hearing on June 12, 2014.
Per that initial HLC meeting, we were informed that 409 N. Main Street is not of
historic significance and it has been identified as a non-contributing structure. We
believe that the demolition of this structure should be approved based on the data
that has been provided.
Also, in the initial meeting on June 12, 2014 we have established that 415 N. Main
Street has been identified as a contributing resource within the historic district. Due to
the response and opposition from many in the Suffolk community, we have decided
to remove 415 N. Main Street from the agenda at this time. We will continue to move
forward in planning for our project expansion with this building in place.
The remainder of this letter will strictly involve 403 N. Main Street that has also been
referred to as the “Colden House”. I believe the following information will clearly
address many of the questions and concerns that have been raised over the past few
months.
In your guidelines for the consideration of demolishing or moving buildings, you ask if
the structure is of architectural significance and your written report has identified the
Colden House as a dominant anchor to the intersection of N. Main Street and Mahan
Street. If the structure is demolished due to reasons to follow, we would propose to
erect a monument of some sort that will include a picture and written history of the
Colden House that would also serve as an anchor to that N. Main and Mahan
intersection. You will see this monument represented on the revised site plan that we
will mention later in this report. We would work closely with the HLC members and
members of the Historical Society to determine the proper design for this monument.
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The next point in your guidelines raises the question, “is the structure of historical
significance?” The staff report gives a thorough history of the property and the house
that stood on this site from the mid 1700’s until the early 1900’s. It has been written
that around 1912, Mr. Willie Colden purchased the property and tore the original
house down. It is also reported that Mr. Colden used the sills and subflooring of the
original house to erect the house as we know it today. Many discussions have
occurred over the past months with members of the Suffolk community and how First
Baptist Church Mahan should embrace the Colden House and the history that it
represents. The Colden House history would also include when Mr. Colden built his
house, because it was on N. Main Street, he was not allowed to enter the house from
the front but had to enter from the rear. He was also not able to sit on his front porch
and all of this because of the color of his skin. So as one can see, not all parts of
history of 403 N. Main Street will be something that the membership of First Baptist
Church Mahan may want to remember and embrace.
We have already determined by your report that the structure is not unique in design
or architecture. The Colonial design could be reproduced at another location should
someone choose to do so. However, when the questions are raised about the ability
to relocate the structure, is it structurally sound and is relocation a preferable
alternative to demolition, we would refer you to the latest report by Speight Marshall
and Francis that is dated July 23, 2014. You will find this report attached.
It is stated in the staff report that demolition of the Colden House does not impact the
other historic buildings within the district. The structure itself is not directly adjacent to
any other historic structures. The next question in the guidelines speaks of demolition
of this structure affecting the character of the Historic District. The Colden House has
been defined as an anchor to the historic community. Its prominent corner location at
N. Main Street and Mahan Street helps to complete the landscape as an important
entry corridor into the historic core. We will refer back to our previous proposal to
erect a monument at this intersection upon demolition of the structure. This
monument will serve as a reminder of the Colden House and can also serve as a
prominent feature to the intersection. The final design has not been determined but
as we have previously stated, we will work closely with HLC members and with the
City of Suffolk planning Department to develop this monument as an anchor to N.
Main Street and Mahan Street.
The next questions that are raised are significantly important regarding the current
damage to the building and the structural soundness of the building. Once again I will
refer to the latest report prepared by Speight Marshall and Francis dated July 23,
2014. This report will answer questions about the rehabilitation and the reuse of this
structure. The latest report will also address the proposal to relocate the structure
and the inability to do so with conventional moving methods due to the deteriorating
brick construction along with the interior fire and water damage.
Since relocation of the Colden House has been deemed impractical based on the
latest report by the structural engineer, the guideline questions regarding relocation
do not seem to be applicable at this time.
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Finally, the guideline question is asked, “Is there an inordinate hardship”. To
establish inordinate hardship, the applicant shall submit evidence that rehabilitation is
impractical, the structure is inappropriate for use by the owner, and the owner cannot
make reasonable economic use of the property.
We have created a schematic site plan that defines the proposed location of the new
church social hall and the proposed parking requirements. You will find this site plan
attached. This plan is preliminary in nature and will be followed in the future by civil
drawings that will meet all of the requirements of the City of Suffolk Planning
Department. The future plans will include the details for the development of the
building site, the parking and drive aisles, the site lighting, and the storm water runoff
and how it will be addressed.
The attached plan has been prepared by Barnes Design Group Architects and
Planners. It has been determined that this plan is the most economical and best use
of the land that is available on the church property. We have studied several
alternatives to this plan that would allow the Colden House to remain. We have
oriented the new social hall addition in several ways and we have not been able to
make practical use of the available land. The rotation of the social hall addition will
leave a large piece of the property between the Colden House and the church’s
Sanctuary that will be unusable thus making the plan less economic.
The HLC committee raised a question about the number of parking spaces currently
on the property and the number of spaces that are planned for the church expansion.
The current property for First Baptist Church Mahan has 70 parking spaces. The
expansion as shown on the schematic site plan will allow for 92 parking spaces, an
increase of only 22 spaces. By this small increase, you can see how important the
Colden House property is to this planned expansion.
Rehabilitation of this property is not practical for First Baptist Church Mahan. We
have determined that the cost to renovate this property could be in the lower range of
$600,000.00 and depending on the amount of structural damage when all of the
plaster is removed, renovation costs could be in the higher range of $800,000.00. A
preliminary renovation budget was prepared by Anderson Restoration of Suffolk,
Virginia in or around 2005. At that time, his proposal included complete interior and
exterior renovation to include asbestos removal, termite damage repair, structural
repairs and structural reinforcement, refinish of all floors, walls and ceilings, new
plumbing, new electrical wiring, new heating and air conditioning systems, roof and
gutter repair, brick and mortar repair, and new paint throughout. The cost estimate
submitted for this work by Anderson Restoration was $429,000.00. Due to the
additional deterioration over the past 8 to 10 years along with escalation costs for
building materials and labor allows us to arrive at an estimated cost today of
approximately $600,000.00.
At the recommendation of the church, Richard Forke of McPherson Broyles and
Associates Structural Engineers performed a structural survey of the Colden Property
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while it was being considered for office or lease space several years ago. At that time
it was determined that the existing floor framing is adequate to support approximately
30 lbs per square foot live load. This load is not uncommon for a residential structure
built in the early 1900’s when there were no real building codes. It has been
determined that in order for a residential structure to be used as commercial property
such as an office building, the minimum required live load is 50 lbs per square foot.
As you can see, a rehabilitation of this building for commercial use would require
additional structural work to all of the floors to meet today’s standards.
In an effort to make use of the Colden House as a proposed office or lease site, it has
also been determined that the site must be brought up to current standards to meet
the City of Suffolk Planning requirements. An earlier study and meetings with the
planning department determined that the Colden House property did not and could
not meet the minimum requirements for parking if is it used as a commercial office
space. The physical plat did not have adequate room to develop onsite parking.
All of the facts mentioned previously weigh into the decision for First Baptist Church
Mahan and their need to demolish the Colden House at 403 N. Main Street. As a
church, they do not have the financial resources to invest in this property. It is not
practical for them to own and operate an office or lease space at the property and as
it exists today, the church cannot make good economical use of the property.
After meeting with both the City of Suffolk Planning Department members as well as
an informal meeting with two members of the HLC Committee, it was brought to our
attention that First Baptist Church Mahan should investigate the possibility of giving
the Colden House to an interested organization in order to move the house to
another location. Although we have already identified through the structural
engineer’s report that the Colden House is not practical to move in whole as it exists
today, we have reached out to the Suffolk Nansemond Historical Society and asked
their leadership if they would be interested in the having the house to move. I sent an
email to Fred Taylor who currently heads up the Historical Society and posed the
question to him, “If First Baptist Church Mahan were to give the Colden House at 403
N. Main Street to the SNHS, would your group have any interest in taking on this
project, removing it piece by piece from the current site and reconstructing the
building at a new location as desired by the SNHS?” Mr. Taylor’s response is
enclosed in the attachments that are included in this package. Although he is taking
our proposal to the Board of Directors and we can expect a formal answer after
August 11, 2014, he did not believe that the Historical Society was in a position to
accept the building in order to move it. He does however, feel strongly about a
marker or memorial on the Colden House site as he as suggested in his additional
email that is attached. We have previously discussed our willingness to erect such a
monument on the site.
It was suggested by the HLC committee that we should advertise the Colden House
property “For Sale” and see if there is someone in the Suffolk Community or
otherwise that would be interested in purchasing this property. That process would
likely take a minimum of 6 months to do so and is not something that we are willing to
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do at this time. The “sale” of the house to another individual, business or organization
is not in the best interest of the church expansion project. We are trying to remove
the structure at 403 N. Main Street to make use of the land for the church expansion.
Certainly the sale of the property to someone else would continue to hinder the
church’s expansion plans. With that said, it does not make sense to offer the property
at 403 N. Main Street “For Sale” at this time.
In closing, we believe we have successfully addressed the fourteen (14) points that
are asked in the “Guidelines for the Consideration of Demolishing or Moving
Buildings” with this letter and the attached documentation. We understand that the
HLC Committee has a job to do as well and their preservation of the historic buildings
in the downtown Suffolk community is their foremost task. It has been stated in the
previous HLC meeting on June 12, 2014 that First Baptist Church Mahan is certainly
an asset to the downtown community. Our efforts are intended for growth of the
church and thus growth in the community as well. As stated earlier, we are keeping
415 N. Main Street in place for this church expansion in an effort to show our
sensitivity to the HLC and our willingness to work around that structure. Based on this
the information we have provided today, we hope that we can get the full support of
the planning staff for the demolition of the church annex building, 409 N. Main Street
and 403 N. Main Street.
If you have any other questions or comments at this time, please feel free to contact
me immediately.
Regards,
James Clemmer
Barnes Design Group Architects
101 N. Lynnhaven Road, Suite 203
Virginia Beach, Virginia
(757) 340-9800
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Mr. Clemmer,
Thanks for your e-mail and comments.
I have forwarded your e-mail on to the Suffolk-Nansemond Historical Society Board of
Directors for their review. While I cannot speak officially without some Board action, I do
not believe we would be in a position to accept the building in order to move it. With that
said, we certainly we would be open to further discussions regarding relocation and/or
other recognition of the historical significance of the Colden House that would not interfere
with your client’s expansion.
Regards,
Fred
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Fred D. Taylor, Esq.
160 West Washington Street
Suffolk, Virginia 23434
Office: 757-935-5544
Mobile: 757-705-0950
Facsimile: 757-935-5533
E-Mail: fred@bushtaylor.com
Http://www.bushtaylor.com
Mr. Taylor,
I was given your name and contact information by Sue Woodward, who I believe you know from
her involvement with the Nansemond Suffolk Historical Society. I am writing you today regarding
the Colden House at 403 N. Main Street in downtown Suffolk.
Let me first introduce myself and tell you a little bit about our company. My name is James
Clemmer and I am a Project Manager for Barnes Design Group Architects. We have been in
business for over 35 years specializing in church architecture. We are currently working with
First Baptist Church Mahan and we are in the early stages of development of a new and much
needed social hall, toilet and lobby addition for their facility.
The recent growth and need for additional space as well as parking at First Baptist Church
Mahan is the real topic of this email. We are currently in the process of working with both the
Suffolk Planning Department as well as the Suffolk Historic Landmarks Commission. We have
proposed a new addition to their existing facility that will encroach on the land at 403 N. Main
Street also known by many downtown historians as the “Colden House”. We have looked at
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several variations for the new work and in each case, the best use of the land includes the
removal of the house at 403 N. Main Street. As with any structure in the historic district, we have
met some opposition by the HLC. Although the structure is very poor condition and according to
a letter written by a structural engineer is not structurally sound, the HLC staff and commission
would like to see the building preserved in some fashion and at some location. This is where
you come in. As the head of the NSHS, if First Baptist Church Mahan were to “give” the Colden
house at 403 N. Main Street to NSHS, would your group have any interest in taking on this
project, removing it piece by piece from the current site and relocating and reconstructing the
building at a new location as desired by the NSHS? We are not certain what your current
capabilities to take on such a task are and that is why we are reaching out to you at this time
and asking this question.
Please feel free to contact me at any time to further discuss this matter. I would be happy to
discuss additional details with you at length. I look forward to hearing from you in the near future
as we are excited about the possibility of moving further on this project in an expedient manner.
Kindest Regards,
James D. Clemmer
Barnes Design Group, P.C.
101 N. Lynnhaven Road Suite 203
Virginia Beach, Virginia 23452
Phone (757) 340-9800
Fax (757) 340-8090
jdc@barnesdesigngroup.com
www.BarnesDesignGroup.com
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Mr. Clemmer,
Our Board’s next meeting is on August 11.
Other than what I mentioned previously to you in my e-mail, I would be more interested to
know how your client might offer some alternative, if demolition of the house is the only
option, to recognizing the historical nature of the location, its history, the house, and so
forth. I’m not trying to tie you down to something specific or even saying that the SNHS
would agree to it, but a marker/memorial at the location with the history (maybe even
utilizing brick from the home)? I’m just trying to think out of the box here to preserve
some semblance of this church’s history and in turn Suffolk’s.
Thanks,
Fred
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Fred D. Taylor, Esq.
160 West Washington Street
Suffolk, Virginia 23434
Office: 757-935-5544
Mobile: 757-705-0950
Facsimile: 757-935-5533
E-Mail: fred@bushtaylor.com
Http://www.bushtaylor.com
Mr. Taylor,
I appreciate your response on this matter and also appreciate your willingness to forward this to
the SNHS Board. When do you expect to have some type of response from them?
We are writing a follow up report to the City of Suffolk Planning department today and are
wondering about your position on this.
Regards,
James D. Clemmer
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