Historic Preservation Committee (Meets 4th Wednesday of each month at 5:30 p.m.)
Regular MeetingSuperior, WI · October 12, 2022
Minutes
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE FOR THE CITY OF SUPERIOR
MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, October 12, 5:30 p.m.
The HPC meeting for the city of Superior was called to order at 5:35 p.m. The meeting was held at City
Hall in room 270 and by web and phone conference.
ROLL CALL
Members Present: Kathleen Laakso, Matt Osterlund, Brian Finstad, Tom Wondolkowski
Staff Present: Jeff Skrenes
Others Present: Megan Meyer, Shelley Nelson
Member Absent: Tim Meyer
There being a quorum present, the meeting was in order.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION by Board Member Laakso, seconded by Finstad, to approve the September 14, 2022 minutes,
carried unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS
1. Nomination of Old Fire Hall & Police Museum to the local register of historic places
Jeff Skrenes gave a summary of the process for nominating the Fire Hall to the local register,
and asked if museum board or staff would prefer the public hearing to be held after a board
meeting to pass a motion in support. Megan Meyer stated that as long as the board and staff is
made aware of the public hearing, they can attend and express support at that time. The public
hearing will be requested at the earliest allowable time after notice has been given.
MOTION to place the Old Fire Hall & Police Museum on the local register of historic places, and
to request a public hearing on the matter, made by Board Member Finstad and seconded by
Laakso, carried unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS
1. Princess Theater – no significant new items to discuss. A task force is being set up with the
mayor’s office to help navigate the design, restoration, and historic preservation process, but
has not met yet.
2. Carnegie Library – the design work RFP was created and the work was assigned to the Meyer
Group. The design has been completed and an RFP for the work will be placed for bids within
the week. There are three known local roofing companies that may perform the work, and two
do have the ability to begin and at least significantly complete work before spring. The design
proposal is for the membrane only, and any supporting work needed for the roof structure. A
secondary layer, such as shingles, would exceed the available budget allocated by the Common
Council. Board Member Wondolkowski asked about the durability and performance of the roof
with only a membrane. Skrenes responded that the concern was raised with the Meyer Group.
The membrane itself will be adequate in the short term, and a long-term negative impact on
performance or durability is not expected. The time frame for the site is to have it prepared for
marketing to a new developer within eighteen months, and the new developer would proceed
with their own roof at that time. Further, the roof covering could be adjusted to whatever
period the developer wants to restore it to (since there were different roof coverings at the
library over the years).
The design proposal also noted some water intrusion at various windows and recommended
repair, and also recommended a heat source to keep the building at roughly 50 degrees during
the winter months. The budget likely does not allow for other restoration or repair work, but
we are looking into the heat source.
3. CLG Status – Staff has confirmed with Wisconsin Historical Society staff that our code does not
in fact contain what was thought of as the likely most difficult aspect of policy change to achieve
CLG eligibility. It was thought that code gave property owners the ability to prevent designation
of their own property if they chose, which CLG status does not allow. However, this is not in
Superior city code. Most of the changes needed lie with converting the Historic Preservation
Committee to a Commission, and staff would have to work with the mayor’s and city attorney’s
offices on that issue. WHS staff is busy with the state preservation conference, but will be able
to discuss a strategy after this week. Skrenes anticipates that a specific motion will be ready to
make at the November HPC meeting and then the issue can be brought before the Common
Council in 2022, one of the HPC’s goals for this year.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 5:55 p.m.
Minutes prepared by Jeff Skrenes
Agenda
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE FOR THE CITY OF SUPERIOR
MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 5:30 p.m.
The HPC meeting for the city of Superior was called to order by Tim Meyer at 5:30 p.m. The meeting
was held at City Hall in room 270 and by web and phone conference.
ROLL CALL
Members Present: Kathleen Laakso, Tim Meyer, Matt Osterlund, Brian Finstad
Staff Present: Jeff Skrenes
Others Present: Garner Moffat, Robert-Jan Quene
There being a quorum present, the meeting was in order.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION by Board Member Laakso, seconded by Osterlund, to approve the August 10, 2022 minutes,
carried unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS
None
OLD BUSINESS
1. Princess Theater
Jeff Skrenes updated the committee on recent developments. Several tours have taken place with
committee members, local media, and others with a knowledge of the site and historic structures.
Many significant architectural and historic features have been discovered either intact or with enough
clues to help put together a picture of what the theater was and could be. There are also three rooms in
the theater portion of the site that have not yet been accessed. One basement area below the back
stage, one second floor area above that, and what is believed to be the projection booth. Residents
have already reached out after the Superior Telegram article about recent discoveries, and staff expects
to either retrieve or at least document several intact items from the interior of the site.
Asbestos testing has come back and there are portions of the site that contain asbestos. This is not
surprising given the age of the building and the age of certain aspects of remodeling. The City has
requested bids on abatement. We will want to move carefully with whoever does the work. Obviously
there are portions of the theater that must be preserved if possible, and properly documented prior to
any necessary demolition or removal of items. But since prior remodeling has led to some interior
features being relocated throughout the site, it’s not a clear cut decision of one area can be treated like
any other abatement job while the rest of the site is historic. A consultant or design team may be
necessary, and staff has reached out to the Wisconsin Historical Society in that regard.
Other members had updates as well. Kathy Laakso and Teddie Meronek have found old newspaper
articles describing the interior. Matt Osterlund has reached out to plaster workers in Milwaukee who
specialize in historic recreations of plaster molds. Brian Finstad has met with a granddaughter of an
owner, who has a seating chart of the theater. Finstad also recommended removing the façade facing
Tower as an early part of restoration. That will reveal what original exterior features remain intact, and
spur more community support.
2. Carnegie Library
The City has closed on the transaction. A bid for design work of the roof has been placed and accepted
by Meyer Group Architecture. Once a design is complete, an RFP will be issued to put a membrane on
the roof. Staff consulted with Meyer Group about whether a membrane itself would be sufficient for
potentially a long period of time. This was to keep costs down by avoiding placing shingles or other
material on the roof, and also to allow a new developer to add that detail in the manner consistent with
the time frame most appropriate for that party’s historic restoration. The concern staff had was
whether that membrane alone would deteriorate over time faster than a membrane and additional
coverings. That is not expected to be the case. We are also exploring adding an internal heat source
over the winter, as even keeping the temperature at 50 degrees would mitigate effects of freezing and
thawing.
The committee pointed out that other areas of the roof structure may need patching. And there are
sandstone gaps in the window sills that will need to be patched by stone specialists. Garner Moffat is
working on an application to the National Register.
3. Historic Designation of the Meteor, Fairlawn, and Old Fire Hall Museums
The Superior Public Museums board had city staff lead a discussion at their most recent board meeting,
regarding the designation of these sites. The board was receptive of these designations and passed a
motion in support. That motion also called for the nomination of the fire hall prior to the end of 2022.
Staff expects to have that ready by the October 2022 HPC meeting.
4. CLG Status
Staff has gone through the recommendations from the Wisconsin Historical Society for necessary and
advised changed to city code. A long-standing stated concern was that CLG cities must allow the
designation of properties, objects, sites, or districts even if the property owner objects. However, per
code, the nomination process powers seem to lie almost exclusively with the HPC, with final decisions
and appeals reviewed by the Common Council. Property owners may request the removal of a property
from the local register if the designation hinders the sale. But the most potentially contentious aspect
does not seem to exist, at least in the way staff and HPC members had thought. Staff has asked WHS for
clarification on this matter. There are still other parts of code that will need to be changed, such as
designating the HPC as a commission and not a committee. Some of those aspects may need review by
the City Attorney. The WHS may be able to help with costs associated with legal reviews.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 6:08 p.m.
Minutes prepared by Jeff Skrenes
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