Board of Commissioners
Regular MeetingSwansboro, NC · September 27, 2021
Minutes
Town of Swansboro
Board of Commissioners
September 27, 2021, Regular Meeting
In attendance: Mayor John Davis, Mayor Pro Tem Frank Tursi, Commissioner Pat
Turner, Commissioner Larry Philpott, and Commissioner Laurent Meilleur.
Commissioner Harry PJ Pugliese was excused spending time with his newborn and
family. It was noted that the Board had returned to remote meetings through the
ZOOM platform as allowed by NCGS 166A-19 due to increased COVID19 cases county-
wide. Governor Cooper had declared a state of emergency due to the COVID-19
Pandemic in March 2020 and it remained in effect.
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Call to Order/Opening Prayer
The meeting was called to order at 5:30 pm. Mayor Davis gave the invocation.
Public Comment
Citizens were offered an opportunity to address the Board regarding items listed on the
agenda. No comments were given.
Adoption of Agenda
On a motion by Commissioner Philpott, seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Tursi, the Agenda
and Consent Item below were unanimously approved through roll call. It was also
noted that Commissioner Pugliese was excused from the meeting.
Meeting Minutes – September 13, 2021, Regular Meeting Minutes
Fire Prevention Week – October 3-9, 2021
Presentation
Emergency Operations Center/Public Safety Building Discussion - Russell Pearlman of the
Wooten Company was available for questions/answers on the final assessment report
provided to the Board in September for the Public Safety Building (PSB) Restoration
and Emergency Operations Center.
Mr. Pearlman thanked Manager Seaberg, Chief Jackson, former Chief Tessing and his
associates for their assistance in preparing the assessment. He reviewed a power point
which provided details on what corrections would be needed to the metal framing,
columns, girts, purlins, bracings throughout the ding, and footings of the current PSB
structure. The labor cost and materials would most likely exceed the cost of new
structure. It was his opinion that it would be better to build new than to restore the
existing building.
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Mayor Pro Tem Tursi asked if the restoration improvements would make the building
acceptable for current building code and hurricane category wind strength?
Mr. Pearlman said, yes - that the wind loads could be met for the Swansboro area.
Commissioner Meilleur appreciated the detail – noting that the assessment reaffirmed
the structural engineers’ findings (Alex Wood) provided over a year ago. Mr. Pearlman
noted that his report findings had not relied on the Mr. Wood’s findings. Manager
Seaberg added that Mr. Wood’s report did not address the footings detail etc. – his
report only gave an assessment that the building was not structurally secure for the
wind zone in our area.
Mayor Pro Tem Tursi understood discussion was to be an analysis of the options. He
again stressed that additional alternatives had yet to be visited; to simply allow Onslow
County to be the Emergency Operations Center, to investigate a regional facility or with
other neighboring jurisdictions and/or Carteret County. He would not support any
recommendation without exploring those alternatives.
Mr. Pearlman continued with his power point showing an example site that could
accommodate a new structure that could be built with a floor plan to accommodate
projected staffing needs through 2050. Input was sought from Chief Jackson and Chief
Degnan on staffing needs.
Commissioner Meilleur inquired about the bay sizes and whether that was half the cost
of the building. Mr. Pearlman stated that they were approximately 5,500 square feet.
Mr. Pearlman stressed that this was a space needs study, elevations were not requested.
The building total square footage was 21,900 square feet. The cost of a building this size
- $300/foot currently. Mayor Pro Tem Tursi felt the example was a Taj Mahal not to
mention it was not in the town limits or centrally located.
Mayor Davis asked how modular the structure was, could an additional 5000 square
foot be added in phases. He was surprised at the bay design – thought a pass-through
design would be more efficient. Mr. Pearlman recalled discussion on how the
equipment was stacked in with a first in/out concept. He did believe the structure
could be built in phases but, added that renovations/additions were typically more
expensive.
Commissioner Philpott shared concerns with the example location and inquired on
what maintenance costs would be? Mr. Pearlman shared that he had neglected to
mention that the existing building did not meet the current energy code and doing
anything to meet that, which he did not recommend, as it would be a high cost. A new
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building would be built to the newer codes and have the latest efficient heating and
ventilation. Energy expense may be a wash, but pavement maintenance would be an
additional cost.
Commissioner Turner agreed with the comments but stressed, as she had before, that
she did not see the Town spending this amount of money, when the Town could utilize
the space at the Methodist Church. This type of expense would need to be placed on
the ballot during an election. Commissioner Meilleur agreed that the costs were
nowhere close to comparable – new versus repair to the Public Safety.
Mayor Pro Tem Tursi noted again that the other two alternatives needed to be
considered which may prove to be the lowest costs. Pros/cons for all needed further
discussion. How were other towns our size handling emergency management? Mayor
Davis agreed but was not confident Onslow County had room for town staff at their
EOC. Manager Seaberg had verbal comments from Onslow County that they did not
have space for town staff. Mayor Pro Tem Tursi stated that the town could consider
partnership with another jurisdiction – even Carteret County.
Business Non-Consent
Swansboro Rotary Five-O Fishing Tournament-Fee Waiver – Organizers of the Swansboro
Rotary Five-O Tournament submitted a Special Event Application requesting a waiver
of fees at the Church Street Dock for October 21-24. The event was to be held on
Thursday, October 21 through Saturday, October 23 from 7-11 pm. A concert (free and
open to the public) was scheduled for Saturday in the Saltwater Grill parking lot 6-
11pm. To allow for safe pedestrian movement, street closures were requested on
Saturday, October 23, 6-11pm. The Parks Board had a split vote on request. Director
Stanley needed more information before making a recommendation on street closures.
Ok with fee waiver but wanted to leave four spaces during the day for day dockers.
Since 2015 not charge for dock usage for similar tournaments. 1-2 overnight boats.
There was discussion that some dock spaces needed to remain open for day dockers
and that the concert should conclude at 10pm not 11pm.
On a motion by Mayor Pro Tem Tursi, seconded by Commissioner Philpott, the
Swansboro Rotary Five-O Fishing Tournament application and street closures were
unanimously approved reserving six slips, fees to be waived for two slips, staff to
determine street closures with further input from Rotary, and the concert to conclude
by 10pm.
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Budget Ordinance Amendment #2022-3 – Several amendments were requested,
Emergency Management – The investigation into the structural integrity of the Public
Safety Building required more professional involvement than anticipated. The
Wooten Company was not able to obtain foundation information on the original
building built more than 20 years ago by Tarheel Building Systems nor the building
manufacture CECO. With that said, a structural engineer was needed to complete the
assessment, which led to a cost overrun of $14, 075. Requesting $14,075 be appropriated
from fund balance.
Commissioner Meilleur questioned the need for the foundation survey, not recalling it
previously mentioned. Manager Seaberg noted that he would address this during the
Manager/Board Comments.
Streets-Municipal – At the September 13th BOC Meeting, the Board supported
matching funds of $7,000 toward the $6943.78 donations received. The funds would be
earmarked for Christmas Decoration Improvements. Requesting $7000 be appropriated
from fund balance.
Streets-Municipal – The Board instructed that the Downtown Traffic Movement
implementation begin shortly after the Mullet Festival (tourist season). A quote for the
recommended signage and street paint was approximately $10,000. Requesting $10,000
be appropriated from fund balance.
On a motion by Mayor Pro Tem Tursi, seconded by Commissioner Philpott Budget
Ordinance Amendment #2022-3, appropriating a total of $31,075 from fund balance for
the purposes described above was unanimously approved.
August Financial Report – Finance Director Johnson reviewed details from the monthly
financial report, attached herein. Revenues would be filtering in within the next couple
of months. Stormwater revenues were also coming in resulting in the revenues over
expenditures cancelling out in the following months.
Future Agenda Items – Future agenda items for the coming month were shared for
visibility and comment. In addition, an opportunity was provided for the Board to
introduce items of interest and subsequent direction for placement on future agendas.
It was suggested that the demo by neglect discussion be held off with this Board until
the new Board was in place. In the interim, the Assistant Manager and Planner could
begin discussions with the Historic Preservation Commission on their
recommendations.
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Once the new Board was in place and meetings returned in person, the priority topics
would be signs and the search for a new Manager.
Manager Chris Seaberg Recognition - Manager Chris Seaberg was presented with a
resolution acknowledging varied projects, initiatives, and process improvements during
his tenure with the Town. The resolution also expressed appreciation for his
professional collaboration with former and current Board members and staff.
Board members shared parting sentiments with Manager Seaberg and wished him well
in his new career with Cherry Point. Manager Seaberg thanked the Board and staff for
their support during his tenure. It had been a total team effort.
Public Comments
Citizens were offered an opportunity to address the Board regarding items not listed on
the agenda. No comments were offered.
Manager Report/Comments
Manager Seaberg added the following comments to the brief provided in the agenda
packet.
Swansboro Causeway Living Shoreline Project - Word was received this month that
the project would be delayed one year due to design work.
NC State Historic Preservation Office Florence and Michael ESHPF Hurricane
Disaster Relief Grant – Emmerton School – the project delayed another 30 days to
allow for tribal comments.
Stormwater Outfall Retrofit Project – met with the coastal federation engineer and
property owner last week – property owner offered positive feedback.
Sidewalk Project/Priority 2 – was delayed due to material shortages.
Emergency Operations Center Funding – Manager Seaberg believed the federal funding
request for the EOC to be the result of a simple hallway conversation between Mayor
Davis and Representative George Cleveland who asked for details on EOC needs after
reading it in the paper. Last week Representative Cleveland shared confidence that the
request would be funded. Senator Michael Lazzara also supported the funding request.
Final approval would come from the Governor’s office.
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Commissioner Meilleur informed that he spoke with Representative Cleveland this
morning and confirmed knowledge gained from the local newspaper but was not aware
of any dependencies on the Town. He added that he felt it inappropriate that Mayor
Davis had engaged state representatives and the Town Manager without informing the
Board. Mayor Pro Tem Tursi inquired why the Board was not informed about the
request for federal funding and stated that this was an example of the disfunction under
Mayor Davis’ tenure. If funded, it could be the largest funded project the Town had
received.
While Commissioner Philpott was appreciative of Representative Cleveland and
Senator Lazzara’s efforts it was disappointing to hear of such on the street. The Board
should be working as a team.
Board Comments
Commissioner Meilleur believed Mayor Davis to be using town projects to promote
himself in his campaign. He added that the Board had attempted to coach Mayor Davis
throughout his term on proper processes, but it had been to no avail. The Town had
suffered the loss of now two Town Managers, a seasoned Planner, and a Park/Rec
Director because of Mayor Davis. He pleaded with the Mayor to work to find a way to
work with Board and stop trying to manage employees.
Mayor Davis reiterated the outstanding job by Manager Seaberg, who had had a lot on
his plate during his tenure with the Town. He supported his efforts to work with state
legislators and was thankful for his relationship with Representative George Cleveland
and Senator Michael Lazzara. He applauded both for their efforts with funding
requests based on a hallway conversation.
Adjournment
On a motion by Commissioner Philpott, seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Tursi, the meeting
adjourned at 7:35pm.
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Regular Meeting
September 27, 2021
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1. Please turn cell phones to “off” or “vibrate”.
2. The Board offers the public three opportunities to speak during the
meeting:
A comment period is offered at the beginning and end of the meeting.
Please note that a separate opportunity is provided for those items
requiring a public hearing.
Public Hearing(s) – There are no public hearings scheduled for this
meeting.
3. Under the ZOOM Meeting Platform, individuals wishing to make comments
should “raise their hand” from their computer. At the appropriate time,
Major Davis will acknowledge those with comments.
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PUBLIC COMMENT
Citizen opportunity to address the Board for items
listed on the agenda.
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AGENDA AND CONSENT ITEMS
Action Needed: Motion to Adopt the Agenda as
prepared (or amended) and approval of the Consent
Items
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PRESENTATION
Fire Prevention Week
Presenter: Mayor John Davis
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NEW BUSINESS/NON-CONSENT
Emergency Operation Center Q/A
Russell Pearlman of the Wooten Company will be available for
questions/answers on the final assessment report for the Emergency
Operations Center.
Action Needed: Provide further guidance to staff on EOC Repairs/Replacement
etc.
Presenters: Chris Seaberg – Town Manager
Russell Pearlman – Wooten Company
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Swansboro Public Safety Building
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• Add metal plates welded to the top and bottom of the main frames
• Provide additional gable end wall framing
• Provide additional girts, secondary framing to support wall panels
• Provide additional purlins, secondary framing to support roof panels
• Provide bracing (functions like blocking) to the above secondary
Main Frame
framing
• Replace or provide additional cross bracing in walls
• Replace or provide additional cross bracing in roof
▪ Sawcut and excavate the slab around each of the concrete footings,
and provide additional concrete and steel rebar to approximately
double (198%) the size of the current footings
Swansboro Public Safety Building
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• Add metal plates welded to the top and bottom of the main frames
• Provide additional gable end wall framing
• Provide additional girts, secondary framing to support wall panels
Column
• Provide additional purlins, secondary framing to support roof panels
• Provide bracing (functions like blocking) to the above secondary
framing
• Replace or provide additional cross bracing in walls
• Replace or provide additional cross bracing in roof
▪ Sawcut and excavate the slab around each of the concrete footings,
and provide additional concrete and steel rebar to approximately
double (198%) the size of the current footings
Swansboro Public Safety Building
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Girt
• Add metal plates welded to the top and bottom of the main frames
• Provide additional gable end wall framing
• Provide additional girts, secondary framing to support wall panels
• Provide additional purlins, secondary framing to support roof panels
• Provide bracing (functions like blocking) to the above secondary
framing
• Replace or provide additional cross bracing in walls
• Replace or provide additional cross bracing in roof
▪ Sawcut and excavate the slab around each of the concrete footings,
and provide additional concrete and steel rebar to approximately
double (198%) the size of the current footings
Swansboro Public Safety Building
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• Add metal plates welded to the top and bottom of the main frames
• Provide additional gable end wall framing
Purlin
• Provide additional girts, secondary framing to support wall panels
• Provide additional purlins, secondary framing to support roof panels
• Provide bracing (functions like blocking) to the above secondary
framing
• Replace or provide additional cross bracing in walls
• Replace or provide additional cross bracing in roof
▪ Sawcut and excavate the slab around each of the concrete footings,
and provide additional concrete and steel rebar to approximately
double (198%) the size of the current footings
Swansboro Public Safety Building
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• Add metal plates welded to the top and bottom of the main frames
• Provide additional gable end wall framing Bracing
• Provide additional girts, secondary framing to support wall panels
• Provide additional purlins, secondary framing to support roof panels
• Provide bracing (functions like blocking) to the above secondary
framing
• Replace or provide additional cross bracing in walls
• Replace or provide additional cross bracing in roof
▪ Sawcut and excavate the slab around each of the concrete footings,
and provide additional concrete and steel rebar to approximately
double (198%) the size of the current footings
Swansboro Public Safety Building
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• Add metal plates welded to the top and bottom of the main frames
Cross Bracing
• Provide additional gable end wall framing
• Provide additional girts, secondary framing to support wall panels
• Provide additional purlins, secondary framing to support roof panels
• Provide bracing (functions like blocking) to the above secondary
framing
• Replace or provide additional cross bracing in walls
• Replace or provide additional cross bracing in roof
▪ Sawcut and excavate the slab around each of the concrete footings,
and provide additional concrete and steel rebar to approximately
double (198%) the size of the current footings
Swansboro Public Safety Building
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• Add metal plates welded to the top and bottom of the main frames
• Provide additional gable end wall framing
Cross Bracing
• Provide additional girts, secondary framing to support wall panels
• Provide additional purlins, secondary framing to support roof panels
• Provide bracing (functions like blocking) to the above secondary
framing
• Replace or provide additional cross bracing in walls
• Replace or provide additional cross bracing in roof
▪ Sawcut and excavate the slab around each of the concrete footings,
and provide additional concrete and steel rebar to approximately
double (198%) the size of the current footings
Footing
Below
Columns
Swansboro Public Safety Building
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• Add metal plates welded to the top and bottom of the main frames
• Provide additional gable end wall framing Add to Footings
• Provide additional girts, secondary framing to support wall panels
• Provide additional purlins, secondary framing to support roof panels
• Provide bracing (functions like blocking) to the above secondary
framing
• Replace or provide additional cross bracing in walls
• Replace or provide additional cross bracing in roof
▪ Sawcut and excavate the slab around each of the concrete footings,
and provide additional concrete and steel rebar to approximately
double (198%) the size of the current footings
Swansboro Public Safety Building
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Belgrade-
Swansboro Road
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SITE
Swansboro Public Safety Building
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Swansboro Public Safety Building
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NEW BUSINESS/NON-CONSENT
Swansboro Rotary Five-O Fishing Tournament-Fee Waiver
The Swansboro Rotary Five-O Tournament has submitted a Special Event
Application requesting a waiver of fees at the Church Street Dock October 21-
24. This will be the 9th year having the event Downtown. Participants will have
weigh in’s beginning Thursday, October 21 and a concert will be help on
Saturday, October 23 from 7-11 pm in the Saltwater Grill parking lot. The
concert is free and open to the public. Street closures have been requested on
Saturday, October 23, 6-11pm.
Action Needed: 1) Approve or deny staff to waive fees for 10 slips at Church
Street Dock or waive fees for 6 slips; leaving some slips available for other
transient boaters; and
2) Approve or deny street closures.
Presenters: Anna Stanley – Parks & Rec Director
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Barricades
Road Closures
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NEW BUSINESS/NON-CONSENT
Budget Amendment 2022-3
1. Emergency Management - The investigation into the structural integrity of the Public
Safety Building has required more professional involvement than anticipated. The Wooten
Company was not able to obtain foundation information on the original building built more
than 20 years ago by Tarheel Building Systems nor the building manufacture CECO. With
that said, a structural engineer was needed to complete the assessment, which led to a cost
overrun of $14, 075. Requesting $14,075 be appropriated from fund balance. Source:
Appropriated Fund Balance
2. Streets-Municipal - At the September 13th BOC Meeting, the Board supported matching
funds of $7,000 toward the $6943.78 donations received. The funds will be earmarked for
Christmas Decoration Improvements. Source of funds: Appropriated Fund Balance
3. Streets-Municipal – The Board has instructed that the Downtown Traffic Movement
implementation begin shortly after the Mullet Festival (tourist season). A quote for the
recommended signage and street paint is approximately $10,000. Requesting $10,000 be
appropriated from fund balance for its intended purpose.
Source of Funds: Appropriated Fund Balance
Action Needed: Motion to approve Budget Amendment 2022-3
Presenter: Sonia Johnson – Finance Director
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BUSINESS NON-CONSENT
Monthly Financial Report - August 2021
Presenter: Sonia Johnson – Finance Director
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TOWN OF SWANSBORO
FINANCIAL REPORT
(AS OF AUGUST 31, 2021)
REVENUES
EXPENDITURES
LOAN PAYMENTS
INVESTMENTS
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TOWN OF SWANSBORO
REVENUES/EXPENDITURES
TWO YEAR COMPARISON
(AS OF AUGUST 31, 2021)
GENERAL FUND
ENCUMBRANCES INCLUDED
Total Excess of Revenues Over Expenditures ($169,958)
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TOWN OF SWANSBORO
REVENUES/EXPENDITURES
TWO YEAR COMPARISON
(AS OF AUGUST 31, 2021)
(ACTUAL)
GENERAL FUND
(ENCUMBRANCES NOT INCLUDED)
Total Excess of Revenues Over Expenditures ($92,331)
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(PURCHASE ORDERS)
(PAID YEAR TO DATE) ENCUMBERED SPENT %
DEPT. BUDGET ACTUAL BALANCE August 31, 2021
GOVERNING BODY 27,422 5,970 1,448 27.0%
ADMIN SERVICES 395,302 60,525 1,150 15.6%
FINANCE 253,881 37,443 - 14.7%
LEGAL 42,000 6,318 - 15.0%
PUBLIC BUILDINGS 406,657 27,763 22,803 12.4%
FIRE 796,411 98,924 14,897 14.3%
PERMITTING 259,117 39,102 141 15.1%
POLICE 1,043,180 151,967 3,708 14.9%
PUBLIC WORKS-STREETS 163,983 18,160 5,778 14.6%
POWELL BILL-STREETS 88,950 2,663 5,654 9.3%
PARKS & RECREATION 295,040 41,915 14,166 19.0%
CHURCH STREET DOCK 13,708 493 1,000 10.9%
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT 52,110 - - 0.0%
FESTIVALS & EVENTS 117,804 25,037 5,078 25.6%
NON DEPARTMENTAL 365,896 163,392 1,805 45.1%
TOTAL 4,321,461 679,670 77,627 17.5%
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TOWN OF SWANSBORO
REVENUES/EXPENDITURES
TWO YEAR COMPARISON
(AS OF AUGUST 31, 2021)
STORMWATER ENTERPRISE FUND
ENCUMBRANCES INCLUDED
Total Excess of Revenues Over Expenditures ($18,238)
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TOWN OF SWANSBORO
REVENUES/EXPENDITURES
TWO YEAR COMPARISON
(AS OF AUGUST 31, 2021)
SOLID WASTE ENTERPRISE FUND
ENCUMBRANCES INCLUDED
Total Excess of Revenues Over Expenditures $1,809
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TOWN OF SWANSBORO
LOAN REPORT
(AS OF AUGUST 31, 2021)
Principal Interest Annual Debt
Item End Date
Balance Rate Service
DEBT
Town Hall/Tanker $534,076 2.69 03/21/2028 $84,724
SERVICE
Public Safety Facility $160,000 2.58 12/22/2024 $45,160
$265,418
Fire Truck 2.08 11/01/2026 $47,512
Equipment/Vehicles $50,832 1.87 11/01/2021 $51,783
Sleeping Quarters $150,000 2.43 12/14/2026 $29,253
Grapple Truck/Town
$183,700 1.72 6/25/2025 $47,917
Hall Generator
Vehicles(Police & Fire
Department) & $110,700 1.84 7/15/2026 $23,377
Software
Total Debt $1,454,726 $329,726
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TOWN OF SWANSBORO
CASH & INVESTMENTS REPORT
(AS OF AUGUST 31, 2021)
CASH & INVESTMENTS
BANK BALANCE INTEREST RATE
First Citizens Bank $4,410,886 .03%
NC CMT-General $100,005 .01%
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Any Questions
?
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NEW BUSINESS/NON-CONSENT
Future Agenda Items
The purpose of this memo is to provide the Board with matters that staff
anticipates/proposes for upcoming meetings. It should be noted that these
items are tentatively scheduled for the specified monthly agenda but are
subject to change due to preparation of materials, public notice requirements,
etc. In providing this memo each month, we hope it will also provide
opportunity for the Board to introduce items of interest and subsequent
direction for placement on future agendas, which will allow staff the
opportunity to plan accordingly.
Action Needed: Discussion and guidance to staff on future agenda items.
Presenter: Paula Webb – Assistant Manager/Clerk
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PRESENTATION
Chris Seaberg Recognition
Presenter: Mayor John Davis
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PUBLIC COMMENT
Citizen opportunity to address the Board.
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MANAGER’S COMMENTS
Chris Seaberg, Town Manager
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BOARD COMMENTS
Mayor John Davis
Mayor Pro Tem Frank Tursi
Commissioner Pat Turner
Commissioner Harry “PJ” Pugliese
Commissioner Larry Philpott
Commissioner Laurent Meilleur
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ADJOURN
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