Board of Commissioners Budget Workshop
Regular MeetingSwansboro, NC · February 23, 2023
Minutes
Town of Swansboro
Board of Commissioners
February 23, 2023, Special Meeting
In attendance: Mayor John Davis, Mayor Pro Tem Frank Tursi, Commissioner Pat
Turner, Commissioner Harry PJ Pugliese, Commissioner Larry Philpott, and
Commissioner Jeffrey Conaway. Commissioner Pat Turner arrived at 1:45 pm.
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Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 1:30 pm.
The purpose of the meeting was for discussion of the FY 23/24 Budget and introduction
of Capital Improvement Requests, further American Rescue Plan Funding Requests and
any Staffing Needs for the upcoming year.
Capital Improvement Requests
Manager Webb reviewed each departments requests.
Parks & Recreation Requests
Comprehensive Master Plan Update $5,000 (Set aside through FY 32-33)
Property Acquisition/Park Enhancements $25,000 (Set aside through FY 32-33)
Waterfront Implementation $10,000 (Set aside through FY 32-33)
Festivals and Events $25,000 (Set aside through FY 32-33)
GMC Sierra Replacement FY 22/23 $8,000 (Set aside through FY 27-28)
Recreation Center Fitness Room Equipment $6,500 (Set aside through FY 32-33)
Municipal Park Basketball Court Renovation $20,000 (Capital Outlay)
($2,222 Set aside FY 24-25 through FY 32-33)
FY 23-24 Set aside Total $79,500
In response to inquiries from the board, Parks Director Stanley shared that the intent for
requesting $25,000 as a flat rate for events was for the purchase of golf carts. The Board
requested that a golf cart usage plan be created for review to determine if purchase
would be of more benefit than renting and/or getting supplied by sponsorships.
Fire Department Requests
1705 Replacement $23,182 (Set aside through FY 32-33)
Ladder 1717 Replacement $75,500 (Set aside through FY 32-33)
1709/Utility Truck to Replace Brush Truck $5,000 (Set aside through FY 29-30)
Chief’s Truck Replacement 1700 $5,700 (Set aside through FY 27-28)
UHF System ($50,000 from ARP Funds) $50,000 (Capital Outlay)
FY 23-24 Set aside Total $109,382
In response to inquiries from the board, Chief Degnan explained that even though the
ladder truck has a life expectancy of 30 to 35 years, keeping the truck to that age ends
up being difficult to maintain due to parts not getting made any longer. Additionally,
ISO ratings are affected by the age of equipment.
Public Works
Ford F150 Pickup Replacement $8,000 (Set aside through FY 27-28)
($40,000 from ARP Funds)
Chevrolet K4500 Replacement $10,000 (Set aside through FY 32-33)
2010 Toyota Tundra Replacement $40,000 (Capital Outlay)
($8,000 Set aside FY 24-25 through FY 32-33)
Cab Tractor $132,104 (Loan Proceeds)
FY 23-24 Set aside Total $18,000
In response to inquiries from the Board, Director Bates shared that the use of a Cab
mower would not only reduce time cutting grass on Highway 24 but could also be used
for the fields at Municipal Park. Additionally, in consideration of renting the device,
overtime it would be likely that the expense would end up costing more than the
purchase price.
The board desired to have confirmation on if the fee to mow sidewalks on Highway 24,
paid by NCDOT, covered the cost of the personnel it takes to complete the task.
Police Department
New Patrol Car $8,000 (Set aside through FY 32-33)
New Patrol Car $8,000 (Set aside through FY 32-33)
FY 23-24 Set aside Total $16,000
In response to inquiries from the Board, Chief Taylor clarified that having less vehicles
than officers, results in the vehicle wearing out faster because they would be in
operation more often.
Permitting
Replace 2008 GMC SIERRA 1500 $40,000 (Capital Outlay)
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($8,000 set aside FY2 4-25 through FY 28-29)
FY 23-24 Set aside Total $0
In response to inquiries from the board, Planner Correll shared that the Land Use Plan
was last updated in 2019 and is not due for an update. The board recommended
repurposing vehicles from another departments, such as the Police department, if
available.
Infrastructure
Sidewalk Construction $50,000 (Set aside through FY 32-33)
The board was supportive of a possible increase in the amount for sidewalks.
Personnel Requests/Salary Discussion
Parks & Recreation Request
Parks Director Stanley shared that her personnel request was for a full-time position
instead of part-time for the Recreation Coordinator and two part-time dock attendants.
The Recreation Coordinator position was restructured to encompass event
coordination as well, to keep someone in the position. Dock attendants would
be scheduled seasonally from May – September on Friday, Saturday & Sundays
alternating the weekends worked.
Public Works Request
Public Works Director Bates shared that his department was still in need of an
additional maintenance technician.
Police & Fire Requests
Fire Chief Degnan and Police Chief Taylor were both in agreement that comp time
accumulation in lieu of overtime pay was of no benefit to their departments. They
requested consideration for their department employees to be provided with overtime
pay instead of earning comp time. Over the past several years many employees that
have left employment have had to be paid out for a large amount of comp time. The
amount paid at that point was based on their rate of pay at exit not the rate of pay at
which they earned the comp time which in most instances was more per hour. If an
employee was to take off time to use earned comp time, the employee that covers their
shift ends up earning comp time, so the total amount of earned comp time in the
departments was never reduced.
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Board members requested that a comparison of overtime verses comp time be provided
at the future workshop for the 21/22 fiscal year.
Salaries, COLA, Merit
Manager Webb shared that there were several positions in which the salary was below
the 2022 NCLM ranges. The town only provided a COLA with no merit increase in the
prior fiscal year.
Board members felt that the positions which reflected lower than the NCLM ranges
should be brought up and were in favor of considering a COLA and a merit increase.
ARP Funding Recommendations
Manager Webb reviewed the following items that were recommended for purchase
through the reaming ARP funds. As a reminder she shared that funds are due to be
allocated by 2024 and spent by 2026.
- UHF Radio System (Fire) $50,000
- Gator (Fire) $14,000
- 4 Wheeler/ATV (Public Works) $15,000
- 2010 Toyota Tundra Replacement (Public Works) $27,500
- 2008 GMC Sierra Replacement (Permitting) $30,625
Total: $137,125
Manager Webb shared that the fireworks vendor indicated that usage of the island in
the middle area was more desirable and that some type of ATV would be of benefit to
help transfer all the supplies. Additionally, the equipment could be also utilized for
stormwater maintenance needs on easements instead of a large piece of equipment.
Follow Up
Manager Webb reviewed that the following items were captured as needed for
follow-up with future budget discussions.
- Gold Cart Usage Plan (Rent vs. Purchase)
- FY 21/22 comparison of Overtime vs. Comp Time
- NCDOT rate for Highway 24 mowing
- Rental cost of Public Works equipment vs. purchase
- Consider out of service police vehicles for repurposing to other departments
- Increase to sidewalk funds
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Board Comments
Commissioner Philpott shared that he preferred to see more overall details for the
budget before making any decision.
Mayor Davis shared that he felt the Parks & Recreation requests were very aggressive
and there was no discussion/consideration on a future swimming pool. He also shared
that he felt the Police & Fire salaries still needed to be increased and consideration
should be given for Ambulance & Paramedic services through the town. Additionally,
he would not be in favor of raising taxes.
Adjourn
On a motion by Mayor Pro Tem Tursi, seconded by Commissioner Conaway, the
meeting adjourned at 4:04 pm with unanimous approval.
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6/13/2023
Initial Department Requests
Capital Improvement Set Aside for FY 23/24
Department Amount
Parks & Recreation $ 79,500
Fire $109,032
Public Works $ 18,000
Police $ 16,000
Infrastructure $ 50,000
Total Initial Capital Improvement Set Aside $272,532
for FY 23/24
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Initial Department Requests
Capital Outlay for FY 23/24
Department Item Amount
Parks & Recreation Municipal Park Basketball Court 20,000
Renovation
Fire VHS Radio System-** 50,000
Gator-** 14,000
64,000
Public Works 2010 Toyota Replacement-**($27,500) 40,000
Cab Tractor-Loan Proceeds 132,104
4-Wheeler-Fireworks &Stormwater-** 15,000
187,104
Permitting 2008 GMC Sierra replacement- 40,000
**($30,625)
Total Initial Capital Outlay
Requests $311,104
Note-Town Manager Recommendations-ARP Funds**-$137,125
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American Rescue Plan Grant Funds
Town Manager Recommendations
Department Item Amount
Fire VHS Radio System $50,000
Gator $14,000
Public Works 4-Wheeler-Fireworks & $15,000
Stormwater $27,500(Capital Reserve $12,500) Cost
2010 Toyota Tundra $40,000
Replacement
Permitting 2008 GMC Sierra Replacement $30,625 (Capital Reserve$9,375)Cost
$40,000
Total Town Manager $137,125
Recommendations
ARPA funds remaining-Balance as of 12/31/22 $ 174,891.66
Less: Recommended for FY 23/24 $ 137,125.00
ARPA funds remaining if Town Manager’s recommendations are approved: $ 37,766.66
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Initial Department Request
New Personnel for FY 23/24
Department Full Time/Part time Job Title
Public Works FT Maintenance Tech
Parks & Recreation FT Recreation and Special Event
Coordinator
Church Street Dock PT PT Dock Attendants (2)
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