Historic Preservation Commission
Regular MeetingSwansboro, NC · July 18, 2023
Minutes
TOWN OF SWANSBORO
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING AGENDA
July 18, 2023
Call to Order
The meeting of Swansboro Historic Preservation Commission was called to order at 5:30PM.
Those in attendance were Jonathan McDaniel, Christina Ramsey, Kim Kingrey, Elaine Justice,
and ALT members Gregg Casper and Eric Young. Ed Binanay was absent.
Approval of Minutes
On a motion by Mrs. Ramsey, seconded by Mrs. Kingrey, the May 16, 2023, regular meeting
minutes were unanimously approved.
Business
Certificate of Appropriateness/210 S. Walnut St
The following individuals were sworn in and/or addressed the board.
Rebecca Brehmer
Jerry Seddon
Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer presented the board with the owner’s request for exterior
alterations. The house was a contributing structure in Historic District and Zoned R6SF. The
reason for the request was for in-kind routine maintenance by repairing the wood siding already
present on the main part of the house by adding the same appropriate wood siding to the rear bump
out, and to replace the current back door on the bump out with a French door. Both requests are
compliant with Section 4: Exterior Wall Covering, Trim, and Ornamentation and Section 5:
Windows and Doors.
The public hearing was opened at 5:34 PM
Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer further stated Mr. Seddon was present for questions.
In response to inquiries from the board, Mr. Seddon clarified the following:
- With the disrepair of the house, the outer walls and floors were rotten, and contractors
suggested demolishing the house. Mr. Seddon did not want to demolish the house.
- The house would be repaired by being altered from the inside. The roof lifted, and walls
rebuilt in the same footprint. He decided to have a wider door than the original door so he
would exit out the back.
- He was told the bump out was constructed in the 1970s with asbestos and was originally a
screened room that was turned into a utility room because of the haphazard construction.
The Public Hearing was closed at 5:36 pm.
On a motion by Mrs. Kingrey and seconded by Mrs. Ramsey, COA 2023-06 was approved
unanimously based on the criteria of Section 4.1, Exterior Wall Coverings, Trim, and
Ornamentation - Standards; Section 4.2, Synthetic Siding Policy, and Section 5.1, Windows, and
Doors – Standards.
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Swansboro Historic Preservation Commission Opening Statement
Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer reviewed that staff were asked to research and draft an
opening statement to be reviewed at each meeting that would inform the public in attendance at
meetings of the standards for public comments and decisions to be made by the commission.
The recommended statement would read as follows:
“Quasi-judicial Decisions are based on competent, substantial, material evidence properly in the
record. All that wish to speak must be sworn in at the beginning of the meeting. If your testimony
meets these standards, then sign up and please be sworn in to speak.”
“Certificate of Appropriateness requests should be in keeping with the special character of the
historic district and decisions must be based on the review criteria, contained in §152.482 of the
Town Unified Development Ordinance.”
Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer stated this was the staff’s recommendation and could be
edited if the board had any recommendations.
During discussion it was decided that a slide would be added at the beginning of the meeting on
the television screens, and the statements would be read.
Review of Staff Approvals
Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer reviewed the following staff approval items.
- 216 Water Street: Replaced front doors from 6’ fixed double doors to 6’ sliding doors to
help with water entry into the home.
- 140 Front Street: Built 6’ x 10’ ground level deck with attached planter and railing.
- 209 Water Street: Removed vinyl siding, restored, and painted original siding white, and
repaired rotten wood on back deck.
- 114 Elm Street: Replaced metal garage door with historic wood plank barn doors painted
white to match structure.
- 212 Elm Street: Installed an 8.5’ long section of picket fence at 3.5’ tall in back yard to
cover heat pump from view. The fence matched the existing picket already present in the
backyard.
- 129-2 Front Street: Installed sign above store front 4’ long and 32” in height. The sign is
the shape of an elephant and a dark red color from the color palette.
- 212 Elm Street: Performed maintenance on detached garage and built new ground level
deck (patio) in kind to what it replaced.
- 114 Elm Street: Repaired rotten wood on front porch and steps.
Board Discussion of Matters
The Board discussed the landscape ordinance, house paint colors, standing seamed roofs (old
fashioned turned roofs), windows, and the changes to be made to the ordinances.
Planner Correll advised that if the Board wanted to change the ordinances, the Board would need
to make a motion or directed staff to create a draft Text Amendment. Once the Text Amendment
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has been approved by the Historic Preservation Commission, it would then be reviewed by the
Planning Board and then the Board of Commissioners.
The Board requested Staff to compile the items to discuss for the Text Amendment for the next
Board Meeting and recommended a picture of a standing seamed roof and a picture of an
alternative as examples. Then the board could discuss the Text Amendment.
Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer offered the following recommendations/suggestions:
- Stated the board could use John Wood’s presentation to support what the Board requested.
- Suggested a meeting with the Historical Association and the public for the Board’s inquiry
about a Deed of Easement discussion. A Deed of Easement provided an easement for when
the property in the Historic District would be transferred to the next homeowner, the new
homeowner would not be allowed to demolish the house.
- Clarified with the board, that the staff would research the items on the list and provide
information to the next board meeting for the Landscape ordinance, color palette, standing
seamed roofs (old fashioned turned roofs), windows, and the draft changes recommended
for the UDO.
Chairman/Board Thoughts/Staff Comments
Mrs. Justice gave an appreciation of Andrea Correll and Rebecca Brehmer on the amount of
information they are provided the board.
Mrs. Ramsey requested an approved list of vegetation, to which Ms. Casper provided a pamphlet
from the NC Coastal Landscaping Initiative.
Projects/Planners Coordinator Brehmer and Planner Correll clarified the following to the board:
- The question about more houses being nominated for Landmark Status is a question for
Mr. Wood. The research needed to be completed.
- The 2023-2024 budget had just been passed and was not sure if any money was in the
budget for proceeds for the Landmark Status and shared the Staff worked with Mr. Wood
at the Visitor’s Center - Littleton House. The nomination was with the Department of the
Interior, the keeper of the National Registry District, which changed from non-contributing
to contributing. The Staff would request help from Mr. Wood on these for Landmark
Status.
- Responded to the Board inquiry in reference to any challenges with staff approvals for
things which the Board might have addressed with only about the Live Oak tree being cut
down and the Historical District not providing a tree canopy. The board challenged each
other to plant a live oak.
Public Comments
None
Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 6:16 pm.
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