Historic Preservation Commission
Regular MeetingSwansboro, NC · December 19, 2023
Minutes
TOWN OF SWANSBORO
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING MINUTES
DECEMBER 19, 2023
Call to Order
The meeting of Swansboro Historic Preservation Commission was called to order at 5:30 PM.
Those in attendance were Jonathan McDaniel, Kim Kingrey, Elaine Justice, and ALT members
Eric Young and Gregg Casper. Christina Ramsey was not present. There was a vacant position on
the board.
Business
Historic District Stakeholder Survey Update
Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer presented the board with the update on the final edit of
the Historic District Stakeholder Survey that was sent to the Swansboro Historic Preservation
Commission on December 6, 2023. Mrs. Brehmer reviewed that the survey was posted on the
Town’s website and Facebook page on December 13th. A mailing to the residents of the historic
district was handled on December 14th and an article would be published in the Tideland News
on December 21st. The survey would close for responses on March 1, 2024.
In response to inquiries from the board, Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer clarified the
following:
- Confirmed with the Town Clerk if the survey link would be able to be placed on the town
website.
- The first question would capture the relationship of each person who filled out the
survey’s information to the Swansboro Historic District.
- The survey information would be analyzed by Survey Monkey, and then the staff would
provide the information to the board.
- Residents were allowed to visit town hall to have access to a physical copy of the survey.
- Assessing a Historic District Endowment fund was not allowed in the statutes, and it was
very specific and did not include a Historic District.
- The Town Clerk would send out a reminder about the survey to the residents via mass
email. There was no funding available for another postal mailing available.
- Displayed signs with the link for the survey would need to be brought before the Town
Manager.
- The survey was posted at the Visitor’s Center.
- An update or request for extension would be provided to the board at the regular meeting
in February 2024.
Local Landmark Designation Workshop Update
Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer reviewed that the Local Landmark Designation
Workshop was scheduled for January 13, 2024, from 9:30 am to 11:30 am with a presentation by
Kristi Brantley from the State Historic Preservation Office. The workshop would be held at the
Emmerton School with refreshments to follow. RSVPs were due by January 8, 2024.
On inquiries from the board, Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer clarified the following:
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- Confirmation with Mrs. Brantley would be requested to make sure she brought examples
of what was eligible to be designated as a Local Landmark.
- Mrs. Brantley would be discussing tax deferments for the workshop. She would provide
a little information for tax credits.
Text Amendment to Massing Standards in the Historic District
Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer reviewed that at the regular October meeting, a request
was made to amend the massing standards to exclude small additions or projects. A draft text
amendment was brought to the November meeting, and it was tabled for more review. The
updated draft ordinance proposed to amend Appendix III Section 11. 1 New Construction
Standards that if a small outbuilding is 150 square feet or less or if an addition of a home is 250
square feet or less or not visible from any street, a massing study is not required.
On inquiries from the board, Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer clarified the following:
- The staff were not telling residents they cannot construct an accessory structure based on
size, there could be an extra step.
- The statement “not visible from any street” could be removed for transparency.
- The standards provided consider the neighbor’s property and how it would affect them.
- The heated square footage was not added since a big porch or Florida Room could be 250
square feet.
- The Massing Standard requirements were used as a tool to be implemented to protect the
district from having huge additions that were not in character with the district or the
house. This amendment allowed residents to complete a small addition or place a little
shed without having to do that extra step.
- The amendment was simple and would not require an attorney to review.
On a motion by Mrs. Ramsey, seconded by Mrs. Kingrey, the proposed amendment to Appendix
III Section 11.1. New Construction Standards to the Unified Development Ordinance with
removal of “or not visible from any street’ was unanimously approved.
Historic Resilience Workshop Update|
On December 7, 2023, two SHPC members, Kim Kingrey and Elaine Justice, and the
Projects/Planning Coordinator attended the Historic Resilience Workshop held by the NC School
of Government in New Bern.
Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer summed up the conference. The school of government
partnered with three new resources for historic resilience regarding flooding, hurricane damage,
and wind. It was broken into three steps of how more historic communities can implement more
resilience standards in their ordinance. The first resource defined issues. The second was a step-
by-step plan for communities to do community involvement and gauge what the largest problems
were as far as implementing. The third step was design standards which were ready to be
implemented to the ordinance. It would be the board’s decision on what integrity would mean to
the historic district. For example, does keeping a house the way it was but being raised a few
feet on the brick foundation jeopardized the integrity of the district.
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Mrs. Kingrey shared that the National Historic District currently looked at things differently than
previously. The problem was along the coast and some inland, there was flooding taking place.
There were some towns who had flooded three times in ten years.
Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer shared with the board the following:
- There are copies of the books available from town hall or available online. There were a
lot of options available for books online.
- Once the resources had been studied, they would educate the board on what the issues
were and what had been identified.
- There was a book on the steps to help identify the issues in your community. Broken it
down to nine steps to help make it clear.
- Design standards had already been written, such as elevated buildings in an appropriate
way, doing proper roofs, windows, and storm protection. Further details provided
options to protect the districts resources.
- The board needed to decide what was worth implementing and fine tuning to ultimately
adopt some of the design standards into the ordinance.
On a motion by Mrs. Ramsey, seconded by Mrs. Kingrey, and with unanimous approval, the
Historic Resilience discussion was tabled for further discussion until the February 2024 regular
meeting.
Chairman/Board Thoughts/Staff Comments
The board requested the staff to add a discussion about the current roof and window standards for
the February 2024 regular meeting. The focus would be on standing seam roof designs.
On a motion by Mrs. Kingrey, seconded by Mr. Young, review for the standards on roofs and
windows and to begin the discussion for what to implement and change, was unanimously
approved for addition to the February meeting agenda.
Projects/Planning Coordinator Brehmer discussed with the board the request for more funding for
the 2024/2025 Budget year. She reviewed that the Board of Commissioners budget workshops
would begin January and that budget deliberations lasted a couple of months. The board would
need to provide specific details for a funding request to be considered. Staff would include
discussion on the matter at the January 2024 meeting.
Public Comments
Citizens were offered an opportunity to address the board. No comments were given.
Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 6:18 pm.
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Agenda
Historic Preservation Commission Agenda
Town of Swansboro
Tuesday, December 19, 2023
I. Call to Order
II. Business
a. Historic District Stakeholder Survey Update
Presenter: Rebecca Brehmer, Projects/Planning Coordinator, CFM, CZO
The purpose of this discussion is to give an update on the final edit of the Historic District
Stakeholder Survey that was sent to the SHPC on Wednesday, December 6th, 2023. The survey
was posted on the Town’s website and Facebook page on December 13th, 2023. In addition, a
mailing to the residents of the historic district was sent on Thursday, December 14th. An article
in Tideland News will follow shortly. As of right now, the survey will be closed for responses on
March 1st, 2024.
Recommended Action: Give any feedback on ways to receive more responses.
b. Local Landmark Designation Workshop Update
Presenter: Rebecca Brehmer, Projects/Planning Coordinator, CFM, CZO
The Local Landmark Designation Workshop is scheduled for January 13th, 2024, from 9:30am to
11:30am with a presentation by Kristi Brantley from the State Historic Preservation Office. It will
be at the Emmerton School with refreshments to follow. RSVPs are due by Monday, January 8th.
Recommended Action: Give any feedback on details for the workshop.
c. Text Amendment to Massing Standards in the Historic District
Presenter: Rebecca Brehmer, Projects/Planning Coordinator, CFM, CZO
At the regular October SHPC meeting, a request was made by the Historic Board to amend the
massing standards to exclude small additions or projects. A draft text amendment was brought
to the SHPC at the November meeting, and it was tabled for more review. The updated draft
ordinance proposed to the Swansboro Unified Development Ordinance adds to Appendix III
Section 11.1 New Construction Standards that if a small outbuilding is 150 square feet or less or if
an addition of a home is 250 square feet or less or not visible from any street, a massing study is
not required.
Recommended Action: Make a motion to recommend amending Appendix III Section 11.1 New
Construction Standards to the Unified Development Ordinance and forward those recommended
changes to the Planning Board for their review.
d. Historic Resilience Workshop Update
Presenter: Rebecca Brehmer, Projects/Planning Coordinator, CFM, CZO
On December 7th, 2023, two SHPC members, Kim Kingrey and Elaine Justice, and the Projects
Planning Coordinator attended the Historic Resilience Workshop held by the NC School of
Government in New Bern.
Recommended Action: Direct staff on if the SHPC has interest in pursuing a project like this or not.
III. Chairman/Board Thoughts/Staff Comments
IV. Public Comments
V. Adjournment
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