Historic Preservation Commission & BOC Joint Meeting
Regular MeetingSwansboro, NC · February 17, 2026
Minutes
Town of Swansboro
Board of Commissioners &
Historic Preservation Commission
Joint Special Meeting Minutes
February 17, 2026
Call to Order
The joint meeting was called to order at 5:32pm. Historic Preservation Commission
members in attendance were Jonathan McDaniel, Kim Kingrey, Christina Ramsey, Elanie
Justice, and Brad Phillips.
Board of Commissioners in attendance were Mayor Bill Justice, Mayor Pro Tem Jeff Conaway,
Commissioner Tamara Pieratti, Commissioner Doug Eckendorf, Commissioner Wayne
Herbert, and Commissioner Tim Vannoy.
Approval of Minutes
On a motion by Mr. Phillips seconded by Mrs. Kingrey the January 20, 2026, Regular Meeting
Minutes were unanimously approved.
Business
Election of Chair, and Vice-Chair
In accordance with the Historic Preservation Commission General Rules, a Chairman and a
Vice-Chairman shall be elected from within the membership by the members.
On a motion by Mrs. Ramsey, seconded by Mrs. Kingrey and approved unanimously, Jonathan
McDaniel was reappointed to serve as Chair.
On a motion by Mr. Phillips, seconded by Mrs. Justice and approved unanimously, Kim
Kingrey was reappointed to serve as Vice-Chair.
State Historic Preservation Office Presentation
Planner Rebecca Brehmer introduced two representatives from the NC State Historic
Preservation Office (SHPO) Lauren Poole, Historic Preservation Specialist, and Wade Rogers,
the newly appointed Restoration Specialist for the Eastern Office. Planner Brehmer noted
that the meeting had been prompted by ongoing questions surrounding the historic district,
the addition of new Board of Commissioners members, and a desire to clarify the town's path
forward in preservation matters.
Ms. Poole presented an overview of the fundamental differences between the National
Register of Historic Places and Swansboro's local historic district. She explained that the
National Register, administered federally by the National Park Service with SHPO serving as
the facilitating bridge, was an honorary designation that imposed no restrictions on private
property owners using private funds. The local historic district, by contrast, was established
by local ordinance and administered by the Historic Preservation Commission (HPC), and it
was that local designation that provided meaningful, enforceable protections through the
Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) process.
Ms. Poole noted that federal oversight of National Register properties was only triggered in
specific circumstances when a federal undertaking occurred (such as a DOT road project),
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when a property owner opted into the federal Rehabilitation Tax Credit program, or when a
nonprofit or municipality received a federal or state grant.
The presentation continued with an explanation of National Register criteria. Ms. Poole
detailed the four main criteria used for assessment:
• Criterion A: History or its history
• Criterion B: Association with important persons
• Criterion C: Architecture and engineering
• Criterion D: Archaeology
She noted that Swansboro's district was listed under both Criterion A for its association with
industry and commerce as an early port town and Criterion C because the buildings help tell
the story of that time period.
She clarified the distinction between contributing and non-contributing resources within the
district. Contributing buildings were those constructed within the period of significance—
1770 to 1938 for Swansboro—that retained sufficient historic character. Non-contributing
buildings were those built outside the period of significance or those substantially altered
such that their historic character was no longer legible. Ms. Poole noted that at the time of
the district's 1990 listing, there were 123 resources, with 77 contributing and 46 non-
contributing, and that these figures had likely changed.
Ms. Poole outlined three levels of changes regarding updating the National Register
Nomination:
• Technical changes - the simplest, including correcting errors, changing construction
dates, or updating building status.
• Substantive amendments - requiring more work, such as resurveying the district or
extending the period of significance.
• Boundary increases or decreases.
Ms. Poole clarified that removal from the National Register was not a simple administrative
act but required a formal petition to the Keeper of the National Register, and that SHPO's
office did not proactively seek to remove districts. She noted she could not recall SHPO ever
facilitating the removal of a district except in cases of demolition or destruction. She
recommended that, before pursuing a full resurvey and period-of-significance extension,
that she first conduct a site visit to walk the district block by block, building by building, and
offer her professional assessment of the district's integrity before any decision was made.
Ms. Poole outlined available tax credit programs, noting that income-producing properties
could qualify for a 15% state credit and a 20% federal credit, with an additional 5% bonus
available in Tier 1 and Tier 2 counties, for a potential total of 40%. A 15% tax credit was also
available for non-income-producing residential properties. Mr. Rogers noted that proactive
education of contractors on these programs and proper preservation techniques had proven
effective in other communities.
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Enforcement discussion:
Board members discussed challenges in achieving compliance and the importance of
proactive education and outreach. Mr. McDaniel emphasized that the HPC’s role was
guidance rather than punishment and noted that widespread lack of awareness among
contractors regarding COA requirements.
Ms. Poole and Mr. Rogers offered to return for a public information session at no cost.
Suggestions discussed included targeting realtors, contractors, insurance agents, and
mortgage lenders as key points of contact in the property transaction process; distributing
welcome packets to new homeowners; using social media; and hosting workshops that could
be funded through CLG grants. Ms. Poole noted that CLG-funded workshops were open to
surrounding communities and also serve as training opportunities for Historic preservation
Commission members to maintain CLG status. Mr. Rogers specifically recommended
focusing hands-on preservation workshops on contractors, noting that they were often
responsible for decisions regarding historic materials on behalf of property owners.
In response to inquiries from the board, Ms. Pool and Mr. Rogers clarified the following:
• There was no specific required percentage for contributing versus non-contributing
resources; however, the general guideline was to have more contributing than non-
contributing resources, with determinations ultimately depending on the specific
circumstances of each district.
• The architectural survey completed in 2021 using a CLG grant had been conducted
for local records purposes and had not been submitted to the National Park Service
as an amendment to the National Register nomination. It remained as local survey
housed in SHPO’s archives and the Town’s records and did not constitute an official
update to the 1990 nomination.
• The survey had not been submitted due to concerns regarding integrity. It was noted
that if such an update were submitted to the National Park Service, the district could
be reevaluated and potentially found to lack sufficient integrity, which could initiate
consideration of removal from the National Register.
• The 2021 survey report included recommendations for potential boundary increase
areas worth exploring.
• Enforcement was a local responsibility, with SHPO having no authority to compel
compliance, and directed staff to Christie Brantley for guidance on available
mechanisms.
• The most common enforcement tools available to towns were liens and fines, with an
emphasis on setting fines at levels sufficient to be meaningful rather than nominal
and easily ignored. Consultation with the Town Attorney was recommended.
• SHPO staff could review the town's existing ordinances for gaps or improvements.
Christie Brantley would be the appropriate SHPO contact for that question, and that
she would follow up with Ms. Brantley regarding additional resources for
enforcement and ordinance review.
• Archaeological finds on outlying properties or within the historic district, such as
pottery shards from the colonial and Civil War periods, fell under the jurisdiction of
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the Office of State Archaeology. SHPO’s role was limited to above-ground resources,
while archaeological matters were handled by that office.
In response to inquiries from the board, Planner Brehmer clarified the following:
• Enforcement begins with notice of violation under the UDO, with escalation through
building code provisions where applicable, including stop-work authority in health
and safety cases.
• Unresolved matters would require consultation with the Town Attorney and that
compliance was primarily achieved through fines and administrative enforcement
tools.
• New home buyers were not required to meet with the Town Planner.
• If work was being conducted without a permit, the Town would inspect the property,
provide education to the homeowner, and inform them that they were in violation.
• The Town provides welcome packets for new homeowners.
Board /Staff Comments
Commissioner Vannoy raised concerns about weekend alterations changes made overnight
without COA approval and questioned the commission's ability to respond. He suggested
that outreach to new homeowners, including personal visits from Historic Preservation
Commission or Commissioners, could help bridge the gap.
Mayor Pro Tem Conaway expressed concern regarding low participation and limited
attendance at meetings and stated a desire to have Ms. Poole and Mr. Rogers return to
conduct an all-day workshop to increase engagement.
The Board of Commissioners and the Historical Preservation Commission expressed
gratitude to Ms. Poole and Mr. Rogers for their presentation.
Public Comments
Citizens were offered an opportunity to address the Board. No comments were made
Adjournment
On a motion by Mrs. Kingry, seconded by Mrs. Justice, the HPC meeting adjourned at
7:53pm.
On a motion by Commissioner Vannoy, seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Conway, the Board of
Commissioner meeting adjourned at 7:53pm.
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Agenda
Historic Preservation Commission
Board of Commissioners
Joint Special Meeting Agenda
Town of Swansboro
Tuesday, February 17, 2026
I. Call to Order
II. Approval of Minutes
a. January 20, 2026 Regular Meeting Minutes
III. Business
a. Election of Chair, and Vice-Chair
b. State Historic Preservation Office Presentation
Presenter: Rebecca Brehmer, CFM, CZO- Town Planner
State Historic Preservation Office Presenter:
Lauren A. Poole
Historic Preservation Specialist
NC State Historic Preservation Office, Eastern Office
NC Dept. of Natural and Cultural Resources
IV. Chairman/Board Thoughts/Staff Comments
V. Public Comments
VI. Adjournment
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