Swansboro Parks & Recreation Advisory Board
Regular MeetingSwansboro, NC · November 19, 2025
Minutes
Town of Swansboro
Swansboro Parks & Recreation Advisory Board
November 19, 2025
I. Call to Order & Roll Call- The meeting of the Swansboro Parks and Recreation Advisory
Board for November 19th was called to order at 5:33 PM by Deb. P. Roll call was conducted
with the following members present: Deb Pylypiw, Matthew Prane, Jennifer Steele, Elena
Messenger, Bets Love, and Ryan Swanson. All board members were in attendance.
II. Adoption of Minutes
a. Adoption of October 22, 2025, Meeting Minutes- The board reviewed the minutes
from the October meeting. Jennifer Steele noted that she had been marked absent in
the previous minutes when she had been present at the meeting. The chairperson
acknowledged this correction, explaining that the secretary had been using new
software to help with minute-taking, which sometimes resulted in small oversights like
attendance tracking. The board discussed how the secretary usually takes detailed
notes during meetings to avoid such issues, but this detail was missing.
After acknowledging the correction to show Jennifer Steele as present at the October
meeting, the chairperson asked if there were any other changes needed to the
minutes. When no additional corrections were raised, a motion was made to accept
the minutes as amended.
Motion to accept the October minutes with the correction of Jennifer Steele being
marked as present was made, seconded, and approved unanimously.
III. Reports
a. Monthly Report-
The board acknowledged receipt of the October monthly report included in their
packet. A brief question was raised about the staff interviews mentioned in the report.
The Director clarified that they were in the process of hiring a new staff member, who
is a park and recreation major currently in school. The hiring process has been delayed
due to new state requirements for fingerprinting employees who work with children.
The new hire will be able to offer yoga classes as she is a certified yoga instructor.
b. Upcoming Programs/Events
Sara reported on several upcoming programs and events. A pickleball tournament was
scheduled for Saturday with 50 participants registered, which is 6-8 more than the
previous tournament. The Sprout Scouts and Tiny Truckers programs were continuing
as usual, though Sprouts would only run one session this month due to the holidays.
Santa Fest will be held at the recreation center on December 6th as a family event
featuring crafts, games, hot cocoa, and photos with Santa and Mrs. Claus.
Other upcoming programs included a theater trip to see Anastasia, which had recently
run successfully with new participants; an ugly sweater pickleball smash, several
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Christmas-themed programs including a wreath class. The holiday canvas program will
run for a week, and people can vote for their favorite holiday artwork.
Elena M. asked if the theater trips were successful and if were consistently booked.
Deb P., who runs those programs, replied that most of the time they are booked, but
every so often a trip may have to be cancelled due to lack of enrollment.
c. Updates
Updates focused primarily on the Christmas Flotilla preparations. With 14 boats
registered compared to 17 the previous year, staff planned to reach out to regular
participants from past years to encourage additional registrations. They typically
received a few more registrations in the final week, and sometimes boats registered
on the day of the event. The Director also reported that they had 13 vendors
confirmed for the flotilla event, including food vendors offering a variety of options.
She noted that nonprofit vendors participate for free as a fundraising opportunity.
The discussion turned to the optimal number of boats for the event. While everyone
wanted to see many boats, too many created navigation challenges in the harbor. The
board discussed the inherent challenges of the flotilla, including darkness, tides,
currents, and the disorienting effects of boat lights. Support was provided by the fire
department, Lady Swan (which conducts a cruise while serving as a turn marker), and
the Coast Guard. However, boats often ignored instructions to go past Ward Farm
before turning, which would create a larger, easier circle. Instead, many cut the turn
short, creating a tighter, more dangerous circuit.
The board engaged in a lengthy discussion about whether a traditional Christmas
parade might be a viable alternative or addition to the flotilla in the future. Some
board members suggested that a land parade might allow for greater participation
from school groups and community organizations, while others emphasized the unique
nautical tradition of the flotilla and its importance to the town's identity. Concerns
about staffing requirements and the tradition of the event were discussed. No formal
decision was made to change the current format. Matthew countered that he was
suggesting replacing the flotilla, not adding to it. He argued a parade might increase
participation by including high school bands, winter sports teams, women's wrestling
programs, and swimmers who could not participate in boat events. He felt increased
community involvement justified considering the change. The discussion revealed that
in past years, the event had included more community participation with Swansboro
Dance Studio performing the Nutcracker and choir groups participating, though the
holiday weekend timing had made sustaining this involvement difficult. Some board
members suggested compromises like incorporating band performances on barges or
seeking other creative solutions to increase community involvement while maintaining
the maritime tradition.
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Those opposing the change emphasized the 30-year tradition of the flotilla and its
unique character as a Swansboro tradition. They worried about community backlash if
such a beloved tradition were altered. The chairperson noted that while there had
been some community chatter about adding a parade component, staffing constraints
made adding another major event challenging without eliminating something else. She
also pointed out that finding volunteers for town events was already difficult.
Regarding Mini Mullet Festival feedback, a board member raised concerns about
parking challenges during the event. Many potential parking areas were blocked off,
including the trail entrance parking and the closed Family Dollar property. Staff
explained these were private properties outside town control. The property owner
near the trail had been contacted but refused access. The large lot behind another
building was designated for handicapped parking only. The situation highlighted
ongoing challenges with event parking, as Ward Farm shuttle service was underutilized
despite parking shortages downtown. There was discussion about one property owner
eventually charging $5-10 for parking after initially blocking access completely.
IV. New Business- No new business was discussed during the meeting.
V. Old Business
a. Pickleball Courts Project
The Director provided an update on the pickleball courts project, addressing concerns
about misinformation being circulated on chat forums and emphasizing the
importance of accurate communication about project. She had noticed social media
"chitter chatter" containing misinformation about what would be included in the
project. Specifically, she had seen posts claiming lights would be included in the
proposal, which was incorrect. While they might explore options with Duke Energy for
basic lighting, professional court lighting was not in the current scope. She stressed the
importance of board members accurately representing the project scope when
discussing it publicly to avoid creating false expectations. The Director is proposing to
add six regulation sized pickleball courts with fencing and windscreens to Municipal
Park. Other court amenities could include benches, shading, storage, paddle racks, and
message boards, but is all dependent on budget availability.
The Director has created a detailed draft with bullet points covering all project
elements and provided it to the Town Manager for review. She has begun expanding
each section into full written format. She will review again with the Town Manager
after the revision of the drafted RFP. Director Stanley stated the RFP would be posted
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on government sites, the North Carolina Recreation and Park Association website, and
the town website. Several companies have already expressed interest in the project.
Board members expressed concern about the pace of progress on the project, noting
that the concept of six dedicated courts with fencing had been agreed upon months
ago. There was discussion about the RFP process and the level of detail needed in the
specifications to ensure quality proposals.
Bets Love explained that oversimplifying the RFP could result in bids ranging from $800
to $800,000 due to variations in materials, court sizing, line specifications, fencing
quality, and other factors. Proper specifications were necessary to ensure comparable,
regulation-compliant bids.
The Director also mentioned that she had not yet received a response from the state
regarding the removal of the skate park equipment.
b. Pool Committee
Matthew reported that survey responses had reached 418, up from 401 the previous
month, indicating a plateau in participation. He had not yet received the data analysis
despite requesting it from the fire chief. He acknowledged that promotion
opportunities were limited and that the special committee meeting scheduled for the
day after the last board meeting had never been confirmed and therefore did not
occur.
Matthew noted that while they had exceeded 3% of the town population (a good
response rate in marketing terms), many responses likely came from Hubert and
surrounding areas. When asked about goals for Swansboro-only responses, he
explained he did not have such a goal because if the data showed sustainability, it
should not matter whether funding came from Swansboro or surrounding
communities. He referenced previous discussions noting that most Parks and
Recreation event participants came from Hubert anyway. There is a question in the
survey that can identify Swansboro residents and will be able separate that
information.
The board discussed promotion strategies, with Matthew explaining he had been told
not to respond to social media as the committee chairman. Board members suggested
various approaches including placing QR codes at fitness facilities, libraries, and
restaurants, and having swim team members distribute codes at town events. The
distinction was made between responding to social media posts (which he should
avoid) versus promoting the survey (which seemed acceptable).
Ideas proliferated for increasing participation, including having Special Olympics teams
and swimmers distribute QR codes at upcoming events like the Flotilla and Santa Fest,
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putting codes on swim team apparel, and creating promotional materials. The
discussion emphasized finding creative, non-confrontational ways to gather more data
before presenting to the newly elected commissioners.
Matthew confirmed he had asked to keep the survey open through swimming season
and would continue seeking ways to increase participation while obtaining and
analyzing existing data.
VI. Comments
An individual from the audience opened the comments section by addressing the
misinformation issue, suggesting it stemmed from lack of information rather than malicious
intent. She proposed that staff post updates on their group communication channel to
ensure accurate information dissemination, preventing board members from inadvertently
spreading incorrect details when updating others after meetings. While acknowledging that
agenda and minutes were posted online, she noted people might not actively seek these
documents. Sara suggested Pickleball Members read minutes from the meetings online to
receive the most updated information.
The same individual then asked about the RFP, initially struggling with the acronym until it
was explained as "Request for Proposal." She sought clarification on whether plans were
already drawn for the courts, learning that plans would come from the bidders based on
the RFP specifications. She inquired about the bid evaluation process, learning that
companies would submit proposals knowing exactly what they were bidding on (six courts
with fencing and specified amenities).
The same individual also raised safety concerns about the abandoned skate park, noting
that despite fencing and no trespassing signs, kids were still accessing the facility by
climbing over and under barriers and tearing apart fencing. Staff confirmed awareness of
the issue, noting that police could be called and trespassers cited. Matthew suggested this
safety issue justified following up with the state more aggressively about removal approval,
as someone could be seriously injured. The board agreed the liability risk was significant
given the facility's condition and continued unauthorized use.
Another individual from the audience followed up on the design question, confirming his
understanding that bidders would provide their own designs and specifications for aspects
like asphalt thickness and fencing weight based on the town's requirements. He expressed
concern about quality, referencing how courts at another facility had cracked within ten
months. The discussion confirmed that bid evaluation would consider factors like longevity
and quality, not just price.
VII. Adjournment
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The board briefly discussed whether to hold a December meeting, traditionally not held
during the holidays. The December meeting will fall on the 17th. After debating whether to
tentatively schedule it and cancel if unneeded or cancel it outright with the option to
reschedule if pressing matters arose, the board decided on the latter approach. Board
members noted the challenges of holiday travel and activities.
Motion to cancel the December 17th meeting was made by Matthew P, seconded by Elena
M, and approved unanimously.
Motion to adjourn the meeting was made by Matthew, seconded Elena M, and approved
unanimously.
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Agenda
Swansboro Parks & Recreation Advisory Board
Agenda
Town of Swansboro
Wednesday, November 19, 2025
I. Call to Order & Roll Call
II. Adoption of Minutes
a. Adoption of October 22, 2025 Meeting Minutes
III. Reports
a. Monthly Report
b. Upcoming Programs/Events
c. Updates
IV. New Business
V. Old Business
a. Pickleball Courts Project
b. Pool Committee
VI. Comments
VII. Adjournment
Next Meeting - Discussion
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