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Taylorsville City Council Work Session Minutes September 8 20 0 Page 1 City of Taylorsville Work Session Minutes Wednesday September 8 2010 Council Chambers 2600 West Taylorsville Blvd Room No 140 Taylorsville Utah 84118 Attendance Mayor Russ Wall Council Members City Staff Chairman Morris Pratt John Inch Morgan City Administrator Vice Jerry Rechtenbach Chairman John Brems City Attorney Council Member Dama Barbour Cheryl Peacock Cottle City Recorder Council Member Bud Catlin Jessica Springer Council Coordinator Council Member Larry Johnson Del Craig Chief of Police Mazk McGrath Community Development Director John Taylor City Engineer Donald Adams Grants Manager Keith Snarr Economic Development Director Jean Ashby Administrative Assistant Others Melissa Adamson Eric Isom John Gidney Jonathan Crump Darwin Cottle Lynn Handy Nathan Murray Paul Keil Brent Shaw David Kelly Bill Holmberg Chris Howells Nicole Anderson Suzanne Chavez Mercedes Venna Rajiv Shah Carl Coombs David Frost Norman Hanneman Betty Hanneman Hugh Bringhurst Gay Bringhurst Pete Keil J P Keil Annette Black Gayle Player Jack Player Kaylyn Smith Crum Joe Martinez Debra Martinez Jeff Swain Kim Swain Dan Billingsley Gigi Billingsley Christopher Hogan 34Chairman Morris Pratt called the Work Session to order at 0 03 18 6 pand welcomed 3m those in attendance City Recorder Cheryl Peacock Cottle conducted a Roll Call wherein all Council Members were present s Taylorsville City Council Work Session Minutes September 8 2010 Page 2 1 Closed Session a Strategy Session to Discuss the Professional Competence of an Individual 23 Council Member Jerry Rechtenbach MOVED to convene a Closed Session strategy 04 18 session to discuss the professional of an individual at 0 competence 6 p Council Member 4m Dama Barbour SECONDED the motion Chairman Morris Pratt called for discussion on the aroll vote The vote was as follows Johnson motion There being none he called for call yes yes Bazbour Catlin yes Pratt yes All members of the City Council yes and Rechtenbach voted and the motion carried by a unanimous vote CLOSED SESSION Those in attendance at this Closed Session were Council Members Barbour Catlin Johnson Pratt and Rechtenbach Mayor Russ Wall City Administrator John Inch Morgan City Attorney John Brems and City Recorder Cheryl Peacock Cottle The meeting was closed to discuss the character and professional competence of an individual wherein no other items were discussed Council Member Bud Catlin MOVED to adjourn the Closed Session at 1 7 pand reconvene 0m the City Council Work Session Council Member Jerry Recthenbach SECONDED the motion Chairman Morris Pratt called for discussion on the motion There being none he called for a yes Catlin roll vote The vote was as follows call Johnson yes Barbour yes Pratt yes and yes All members of the City Council present voted and the motion carried Rechtenbach by a unanimous vote 40Chairman Pratt reconvened the Council Work Session 13 19 Council Member Johnson MOVED to adjourn the City Council Work Session and convene the Redevelopment Agency of Taylorsville Board Meeting Council Member Jerry Rechtenbach SECONDED the motion Chairman Pratt called for discussion There being none he called for a yes Catlin vote The vote was as follows Johnson yes Barbour yes Pratt yes and yes All City Council members voted in favor and the motion passed Rechtenbach unanimously The meeting was adjourned at 1 7 3m p 37 Council Member Dama Barbour MOVED to adjourn the Redevelopment Agency 40 20 Board Meeting and reconvene the Council Work Session Council Member Bud Catlin SECONDED the motion Chairman Pratt called for discussion There being none he called for a yes Catlin vote The vote was as follows Johnson yes Barbour yes Pratt yes and yes All City Council members voted in favor and the motion passed Rechtenbach unanimously The Council Work Session was reconvened at 4 8 p Chairman Pratt 0m apologized for the delay in reconvening the meeting Taylorsville Ciry Council Work Session Minutes September 8 2010 Page 3 2 UTOPIA Proposal for Fiber Optic Service to Sorenson Research Park Chris Hogan Jonathan Crump UTOPIA 59Chairman Pratt recognized Chris Hogan and Jonathan Crump of UTOPIA 40 20 54Mr Crump reviewed the who what and why factors related to UTOPIA He said 41 20 that UTOPIA is a municipal agency that provides options and innovation for the information super highway much in the same way that the Salt Lake Municipal Airport provides access to various airlines and gives consumers several options He noted that UTOPIA is a non profit provider wholesale Mr Crump relayed that UTOPIA has laid fiber optics in 11 different communities within the State of Utah He explained that those fiber optics are available to 11 different business service providers and six different residential service providers He explained that this allows the use of fiber optic service in those communities Mr Crump stated that he has been contacted by individuals who own and operate businesses in the Sorenson Business Park and also the Atherton Business Park requesting fiber optic services He cited the concern of businesses regarding the lack of available fiber optics in that area He requested that the City of Taylorsville look at helping these businesses and building owners to provide UTOPIA fibers that can be utilize by the service providers preferred by tenants 04Chairman Pratt asked if there are currently fiber optics in the area Mr Crump clarified 47 20 that there is some fiber in Sorensen Park but not in the buildings at Atherton Park where the only option is DSL He went on to explain that companies prefer diversity in their options so that if their primary server goes down a back up is available Mr Crump mentioned the Royal Bank of Scotland as having specifically asked for fiber optic service 33Council Member Catlin cited previous UTOPIA presentations to the City Council when 48 20 UTOPIA take rate was projected to be somewhere around 30 to 40 percent He stated his s S original projections have not held and money was lost last year understanding that UTOPIA He inquired whether this is true 50 Mr Crump answered that he is not qualified to answer such questions as he has only 20 been with UTOPIA for the past 18 months He indicated that he serves as manager for those cities that own the network He noted that operations have recently been brought house in and specific goals have been set He cited a growth pattern now in place Mr Crump relayed that the request being presented would not obligate Taylorsville in any way but would provide a financing mechanism to assist in providing the infrastructure in the referenced area with the investment being repaid by business owners who utilize fiber optics 12Council Member Barbour inquired whether Atherton or Sorenson actually need 52 20 s permission to contract with UTOPIA for fiber optics Mr Crump explained that Taylorsville Taylorsville City Council Work Session Minutes September 8 2010 Page 4 infrastructure t have the capital to build the that businesses don they do not He stated however the only funds provided to UTOPIA come but do have ability to repay over time He noted that clarified that businesses are suggesting that one entity from those who wish to use it Mr Crump time He relayed be created a as op co that allows them to repay for individual services over this type of infrastructure is of economic that real estate brokers have determined that having businesses to the area value and assists with vacancies by attracting are fiber optics already available in the 57 Council Member Barbour asked whether there 54 20 transfer area Mr Crump responded that there are traditional copper lines in place but they only faster and better connectivity in order to data so fast He suggested that businesses require compete in a global market with new and emerging technology that is included in Phase I He 53Mr Crump described the area down Riverboat Drive 55 20 mechanism infrastructure would be relayed that if Taylorsville were to provide financing a work with the businesses and obtain contracts committing placed and service providers would would be brought to the for services He clarified that the terms for repayment repayment stated that Phase II made Mr Crump Council for consideration before a commitment was Drive and into Atherton would then be extended down over Lavoy up locations and terms Mr Crump 06Additional discussion ensued regarding anticipated 01 21 confirmed that construction costs are not estimated to exceed 125 000 address a commitment received 46Council Member Catlin asked Eric Isom of Qwest to 01 21 from fiber optics and service in Taylorsville Qwest regarding and education sales 13Eric Isom introduced Suzanne Chavez who works in government 02 21 available at Sorenson with Qwest Ms Chavez explained that Qwest does have fiber optics was to make ResearchPark Mr Isom clarified that the commitment that was given by Qwest He noted that at the time fiber optics were not DSL available to 90 of the residents is currently deploying addressed He referenced changing technology and reported that Qwest fiber and is able to provide speeds of up to 40 megabytes per second whether Qwest actually provides 31 Council Member Catlin called for clarification on 03 21 fiber optics at competitive prices Bank of Scotland is 03Ms Chavez stated that one of the buildings that Royal 04 21 of Qwest fiber She stated that Qwest provides the contemplating has multiple connections connect to various carriers at competitive rates backbone service and allows their customers to in the area customers only need commit for two to She explained that because Qwest is already UTOPIA to cover construction costs three years with providers instead of 10 to 20 years through Taylorsville City Council Work Session Minutes September 8 2010 Page 5 in place as compared to s UTOPIA 57Chairman Pratt asked where Qwest has fiber 05 21 t seen the proposal but will research it stated that she hasn proposed locations Ms Chavez as anon disclosure agreement She agreedto Qwest fiber routes to the Council as long s provide with the City is obtained had fiber in the Sorensen 06Mr Snarr confirmed that he was not aware that Qwest 21 of fiber He also relayed that all of the Research Park and was not privy to any exact locations need this type of technology and are businesses and educational institutions in the area do it Council Member Barbour referenced the s City number one priority of economic requesting development taware of where Mr Snarr wasn 42Council Member Catlin expressed surprised that 07 21 whether this is proprietary information or whether Qwest Qwest has fiber optics and asked again that they would be happy to come back and is willing to share it with the City Mr Isom replied there are proprietary concerns about share information about Qwest fiber availability although disclosure agreement from the City would be needed sharing that type of information and anon of a government entity competing with Mr Isom expressed concern that this may be a case would love to work with the City and its businesses to private industry He said that Qwest dollazs at risk Ms Chavez also clazified that in places provide services without putting City tax methods for increasing bandwidth to where it is cost prohibitive to place fiber Qwest still has meet the scustomer needs with the existing copper technology with clarification that there are no 47 Mr Crump responded to the information from Qwest 09 21 no one would be taxed to bring fiber to the park He said tax dollars committed in the sense that of sales tax or anything like that but that the City is not being asked to obligate a percentage economic development or assist in facilitating a loan for the only to help dedicate funds from included on phone bills which is basically a tax used to project He referenced a universal fund a different class of service as fiber build networks Mr Crump suggested that UTOPIA provides with connectivity going right into businesses is more stable than increasing megabytes technology in attendance wishing to 14 Chairman Pratt asked whether there were property owners 16 21 address this issue Melissa Adamson with CB Richard Ellis stated that they have a real estate that there is not fiber into Atherton She cited difficulties listing for Atherton Plaza and affirmed Ms Adamson said that she has experienced as a leasing agent for buildings without fiber from Qwest but it is very slow She intetnet connection is available through a DSL line in Atherton She stated that reiterated that there is no Qwest fiber or any other fiber available She noted that she has not been 000 square feet of empty space in the area there is currently 50 are willing to put fiber into that space able to get good answers from Qwest about whether they line will not work for any She suggested that without fiber the space will not be filled as a DSL  Work Session Minutes Taylorsville City Council September 8 2010 Page 6 UTOPIA offers a good option extensive Internet requirements She said that company that has that will assist in filling vacant space and Council Member Barbour asked for clarification 000 square feet of empty space on the 50 t given a Adamson stated that Qwest hasn whether Qwest is unwilling to provide fiber Ms their only option to be at the space do not want commitment She said that businesses looking of providers that UTOPIA affords Qwest but would like the variety with the City He stated that the 38 Keith Snarr described financing options 20 21 it district where owners pay and then if there is any default City might put together a special Mercedes Verena who is heading the would come back to those owners Mr Snarr recognized It was confirmed that RBS not only currently uses Royal Bank of Scotland RBS Project locations Interest on the part of RBS in Qwest but also a variety of providers in their other UTOPIA and its providers was referenced sees value in having fiber in the referenced area but is 45 Chairman Pratt stated that he 21 Mr unless something like a special district is implemented unsure about City involvement lines public partnership along those Snarr cited the possibility of a private sit down with business owners and 16Council Member Catlin asked Mr Snarr to 22 21 and then report back to the Council with a to evaluate needs and options providers recommendation been interested in looking at technology 01 Mayor Wall stated that the City has always 24 21 long bond commitment putting tax dollars or a term but they are not interested in subsidizing or Administration is looking for infrastructure for that technology He said that to guarantee direction from the Council on this issue and that stated again that economic development is a priority 42 Council Member Barbour 24 21 that to businesses The Mayor clarified the City must look at all options that are important closed and He said that no doors have been Administration has not ruled out UTOPIA who did fulfill commitments to bring discussions are also planned with Qwest and Comcast The Mayor noted that the problem now is that people service to 90 of Taylorsville residents for such concerns over the City bonding desire a higher technology He stated that he still has technology 55Council Member Rechtenbach noted 27 21 City infrastructure now references more that the s needs must also include technological infrastructure than curbs gutters and sidewalks etc but long heavy still vote against a bond in that it is a term Mr Rechtenbach indicated that he would however that the City must be forward thinking commitment to levy to tax payers He said invest in that infrastructure enough to consider ever changingtechnology and be willing to Taylorsville City Council Work Session Minutes September 8 200 Page 7 and whether Council Member Rechtenbach then asked for clarification regarding franchise fees UTOPIA would be required to in franchise agreements Chris Hogan Marketing pazticipate t impose director for UTOPIA relayed that because UTOPIA is owned by cities they don themselves He clarified that cities do not compete with Qwest themselves franchise fees on the road for infrastructure and are not service Comcast or else because anybody they are just He noted that cities just build the infrastructure that they then own Mr Hogan said providers then compete to that UTOPIA provides the best possible infrastructure for which companies provide Taylorsville businesses with service 3 Discussion Regarding City Center Plan and Project Expectations Keith Snarr 09 Keith Snarr asked Community Development Director Mark McGrath to give a 31 21 on the City Center Plan Mr McGrath reviewed the history of the City historical perspective He Center property and reviewed the initial concept of developing a community gathering place showed an aerial photo from 1998 when the property was purchased He then illustrated the as developed by Landmark Design He stated that this original wasn t original proposal was eventually approved by the approved by the City Council He then showed the plan that but scaled back and not as grand as the first City Council which was similar to the original plan Mr McGrath stated that in 2002 the Council adopted Resolution 02 05 selecting Layton Construction and Gould Evans Architecture to develop and design the City Hall along with its of what the roads pazking and infrastructure He reviewed the computer generated illustrations that the Planning Commission granted City Center could eventually look like He relayed that the City Council develop a approval on June 11 2002 for the site plan but recommended of the Small Area Master Plan to ensure that future development on the undeveloped portions Hall He cited a desire to represent property would be consistent with what was in place for City the City in a positive way that would prevent haphazard development Master Mr McGrath said that when the City developed the first official City Center Small Area Create Plan SAMP for the site ten general development principles were identified as follows Architectural Emphasis Community Gathering Place Excellence and Sustainability Strong mix of land uses Strong Pedestrian Orientation Strong Site Design Emphasis Cazefully blended Integration with the Surrounding Community Transportation Diversity District as Opposed to sum of individual Shopping Center and Concept of Gestalt whole greater than parts 38 Mr McGrath said that the plan implemented basically illustrates the conceptual design 40 21 of how those ten principles can be incorporated into the SAMP He said the plan even went as far as to what types of land uses go in certain areas for example where restaurants would identify best fit He 56Council Member Catlin stated that he disagrees with parking behind structures 41 21 referenced new construction at Valley Fair Mall that has provided handicapped parking that is the front door Council Member Catlin also stated that he thinks this SAMP is practically up to  Work Session Minutes Taylorsville City Council September 8 2010 Page 8 Mr McGrath answered that an City neck when it comes to development anchor around the s Member Catlin argued that and is no longer that anchor Council this plan was amended in 2006 that the City has tried to to the faIlure of some things he believes the SAMP has contributed develop historical with this presentation to simply provide 26Mr McGrath clarified his purpose 43 21 Farmer Markets s for a suggested Festival Area to draw information He showed illustrations City Center property food festivals or events such as Taylorsville Dayzz to the Taylorsville states and cities of similar developments in other 52Mr McGrath showed photos 21 44 Center is very similar Mr out that the South Jordan City Council Member Johnson pointed developed before South Jordan McGrath sSAMP was actually mentioned that Taylorsville indeed very similar plans developed theirs but they are state that in February 2006 Cottonwood Partners approached 03 Mr McGrath went on to 46 21 with the fundamental the site and the SAMP was amended the City with interest in developing the buildings to reflect a more typical suburban shopping difference being the orientation of illustrations of the changes to the parking lot Mr McGrath showed center and buildings facing to the existing structures the buildings and also the similarities it sometimes he appreciates the SAMP but feels may 25 Chairman Pratt interjected that 48 21 are too or franchises when building standards inhibit development with successful companies businesses be some flexibility allowed for such rigid He suggested that there must must be 39Mr McGrath agreed that 49 21 this is an important philosophical question that answered that the South Jordan City Center and the fact 54 Council Member Barbour referenced 49 21 the street business entrances face the parking areas even though their businesses are up against similar to the shops South 7ordan has entrances on both sides 55Mr McGrath noted that 21 51 a lot of business owners tlike this layout because then they don at River Wood in Provo but the Cottonwood Plan that are He showed further views from have two entrances to watch that he has Mr McGrath summarized by saying what is at Taylorsville City Hall compatible to year history of the site presented a basic twelve and met with he came onboard in January 2008 19 Keith Snarr explained that 21 53 Cottonwood tenants were sent from the City to Cottonwood Partners He relayed that several tafford couldn Cottonwood were so high those tenants Partners but because lease rates through that had been ultimately provided a list of 375 tenants to be here He said that Cottonwood Mr Snarr stated but no parties had shown interest contacted by their leasing representatives Taylorsville City Council Work Session Minutes September 8 200 Page 9 that at that time the contract with Cottonwood Partners was terminated and they were paid for due diligence Mr Snarr reported that the City Center property was then quietly put on the market and interest was received from a commercial developer on part of the property and from on five acres but those offers have now been withdrawn He referenced an assisted Gaze facility one He posed the question the economical downturn and said the City is now back to square Where do we go from here to the Council 34Mr Snarr read an m 56 21 e ail he received from Richard Bradford who works for the City of referenced Mr Snarr said that the Long development patterns were Pleasant Grove term Center is in a good location but there aze some issues with daytime business use City property and liquor licenses He cited interest expressed by Jim Taylor who previously owned the property Mr Snap relayed that Mr Taylor has brought some businesses forwazd for discussion but so far those discussions have not been fruitful to the Mr Snarr reported that the City has applied for an EPA grant to make some improvements issues 28John 59 21 Inch Morgan City Center property and to help mitigate dust and drainage it is but rather an award that the City has received through clarified that really not a grant Senators Bermett and Hatch for nearly000 Mr Snarr stated that the City would have to 500 match that award with some money to make it work He distributed documents to fixrther explain the award 56Mr Snarr referenced a State study regarding a possible 2 21 59 I ramp on 5400 South 15 off SAMP designs would have to be changed Mr He noted that if that project goes forward the last tenants and Snazr asked the Council for input regarding the identified challenges desired possible prospects for anchor tenants He stated that he is open to suggestions or an further discussion that the Council may desire 55Council Member Rechtenbach stated that if restaurants need businesses then the 01 22 He further indicated that he personally does answer may be a mixed use for business and retail thru use on the property not have a problem with adrive 34 Mr Snarr referenced a desire within the community for a Performing Arts Multi 02 22 Center and said that is still on the table as a possible use along the east corner Purpose restaurants and 23 Council Member Johnson inquired about cash incentives to bring nicer 03 22 businesses into the azea Mr Snarr referenced the use of RDA funds along 5400 South for that is currently underway type of tool and indicated that process 26Council Member Catlin commented that he thinks the City has missed opportunities 05 22 with the He suggested that retails uses would be successful if flexibility is offered property Taylorsville City Council Work Session Minutes September 8 2010 Page 10 the study on the ramp City 26 Council Member Barbour inquired about the timing for 07 22 should be completed in about a year Engineer John Taylor stated that the environmental study Mr Snarr Council Member Barbour than asked how much property the project would require 10 acres after stated that it would take about an acre which leaves the City with approximately amulti building 5 acres are set aside for purpose 2 45Council Member Barbour suggested removing the chain link fence planting some 08 22 greenery and possibly implementing a community gathering place that he has 43 Mayor Wall cited a need to be realistic in terms of the property He relayed 09 22 is been told that the likelihood of getting slip ramps on 5400 South is near zero but the study interest may being done because the City forced it He suggested however that some federal 80 homes in result from the study which would mean a full interchange and the taking of about should be on what can be done with property approximately 10 years The Mayor said the focus right now He stated that the property is currently in violation of EPA standards Federal and the own ordinances He suggested that the planting of grass be regulations City s considered as a remedy He cited 13Council Member Rechtenbach stated his concern with being too simplistic 12 22 real results He called for the experienced at the ICSC Conference without any productivity and attract some expert advice as to what the area is going to support 13Council Member Johnson asked about paying cash incentives to decent businesses just 14 22 follow to get the area started and then hoping that others may 45 Mayor Wall suggested that the City has gained a reputation for saying it will do 22 14 and then turning down development offers He said that the s City best option may be anything around The Mayor to sit on the property for the time being and wait for the economy to turn stated that the City may need to cut its losses plant some grass consider a park use and focus on other areas in the City that need work 20 Council Member Barbour agreed with the s 22 17 Mayor assessment 36Council Member Johnson referenced ideas presented by citizens at the Strategic 17 22 and that the City give consideration to such Mayor wall responded Planning Meeting suggested that every one ofthose ideas costs money 28Council Member Catlin inquired whether local successful merchants have been 20 22 approached Taylorsville City Council Work Session Minutes September 8 2010 Page 11 58Mayor Wall referenced a proposal from Sam Granato for a Market Street Grill that was 20 22 voted down by the Council in previous years 13 Chairman Pratt noted that he was not present for discussion on August 22 18 2010 regarding improvements to the City Center and requested an update 47Mayor Wall relayed that Geneva Construction will grade the property when they are 22 finished storing equipment which saves the City money He said that the next step is to finalize EPA approval of the project He noted that after the award was received stipulations for matching fund requirements came to light so the money may have to be given back He reported on discussions with the Samoan Community who has indicated that if the City builds cricket or rugby fields on the property they will do the maintenance for free Don Adams relayed that property maintenance costs for the City would be approximately 15 000 20 000 per year 23Chairman Pratt asked that Council Members give the issues discussed further thought 24 22 and consideration Mayor Wall stated that Administration would like direction on whether to move forward on the EPA process Council Member Johnson suggested that the Council bring back ideas for some business that may not have been previously identified 47Mr Snarr recognized Taylorsville Planning Commissioner Nathan Murray in 22 25 attendance and noted that Mr Murray would like to be involved in sharing some ideas for the property 27Council Member Johnson MOVED to table the discussion on Good Landlord Program 26 22 until a later date Council Member Catlin SECONDED the motion Chairman Morris Pratt called for discussion on the motion There was discussion regarding the date that would be moved to He then called for call aroll vote The vote was as follows Johnson Catlin yes yes yes Pratt Barbour yes and Rechtenbach yes All members of the City Council present voted and the motion carried by a unanimous vote 46 Mayor Wall asked Council Member Johnson to forward the input he has received from 28 22 citizens on the Good Landlord Program so that it might be examined by Administration and the Planning Department Council Member Johnson agreed to provide that information 25Chairman Pratt stated that he would like consideration given on the relief or abatement 29 22 of disproportionate fees for businesses who have had no issues with police or fire calls as an incentive Taylorsville City Council Work Session Minutes September 8 2010 Page 12 4 10 Adopting the Good Landlord Program and Discussion Regarding Ordinance O1 Revised Business License Fee Schedule Mark McGrath This item was continued until September 15 2010 5 Other Matters the availability of charts on 37Council Member Johnson asked Chief Del Craig about 30 22 burglaries and inquired about how many Taylorsville time duty Police Officers are on night be provided regarding the average wait time Mayor Wall suggested that some information also information be m e ailed out and on calls City Administrator John Inch Morgan asked that the Council Meeting that further explanation on the data be given at a future 6 Adjournment the City Council Work Session 14 Council Member Larry Johnson MOVED to adjourn 33 22 Pratt called for discussion Council Member Dama Barbour SECONDED the motion Chairman yes Catlin There being none he called for a vote The vote was as follows Johnson yes All City Council members voted in favor and yes Pratt Barbour yes and Rechtenbach yes 33 m 10 the motion passed unanimously The meeting was adjourned at p Cheryl Peacock Cittle City Recorder Minutes approved CC 10 06 Minutes Prepared by Cheryl Peacock Coftle City Recorder