Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingTroy, NY · December 5, 2017
Minutes
Catherine Conroy THE CITY OF Steven Strichman
Chairperson Planning Commissioner
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Zoning Board of Appeals Minutes
Tuesday, December 5, 2017
ZB 2017-58 Chris Ferraro requests a Use Variance and Area Variances for lot area deficiency
and excessive density, related to a proposal to convert a 2-unit residence to a 3-unit residence, at
17 101st Street (ID 90.47-4-31) in an R-2 zone.
APPROVED 5-0 (Conroy, McCann, McLaren, Nesich, Normile)
1 person opposed the proposal stating that the neighborhood should be less densified, instead of
more densified and that the applicant has owned other properties in Troy, and has not maintained
them in good condition
ZB 2017-61 Jovane Rosa requests a Use Variance and Area Variances for parking deficiency,
lot area deficiency, and minimum lot width deficiency related to a proposal to institute a used car
lot (no building) on a vacant parcel in at 2916 Fifth Avenue (ID 90.70-7-13) in an R-4 zone.
DENIED 5-0 (Conroy, McCann, McLaren, Nesich, Normile)
It was determined that the applicant failed to demonstrate that: the land, property, structure, or
building in question can/cannot yield a reasonable economic return if used only for a purpose
allowed in the zone
No office would be located on the lot, only cars. Business relating to this usage would be
conducted at the applicant’s house, which is nearby.
Two speakers opposed the proposal on grounds that it would depreciate the prices of nearby
properties, that it will become a junkyard and that the the criteria for a Use Variance hasn’t been
met.
ZB 2017-62 1844 Land Development, LLC requests a Use Variance and Area Variances for a
parking deficiency, rear setback deficiency, excessive density, and excessive building height,
related to a proposal to construct 4 residential buildings on a vacant parcel, with 12 units apiece,
for a total of 48 residential units, at 171 Oakwood Avenue (ID 90.56-2-3) in an R-1 zone.
CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLED CASE UNTIL JANUARY 9, 2018
5-0 (Conroy, McCann, McLaren, Nesich, Normile)
On February 4, 2016, the Zoning Board granted the applicant received a Use Variance to
construct 20 attached 1-unit condominiums (each with 3 bedrooms), and an Area Variance for
setback deficiencies and a lot size deficiency and side setback deficiencies, at the same address
(ZB 2016-01). On March 23, 2016, The Planning Commission granted Site Plan Approval to the
same project (PC 2016-01), contingent upon the conditions that the applicant: a) Coordinate
with the Frear Park Conservancy on where hiking trails will be located; b) File a subdivision
City Hall, 433 River Street, Troy, New York 12180
map with Rensselaer County. After much consideration, the applicant decided that this proposal
was infeasible, mainly due to the recent Troy property tax increases, and decided to abandon it.
Applicant has returned with a different proposal for this address: 4 apartment buildings
containing 12 apartments apiece, for a total of 48 apartments with 32 one-bedroom apartments
and 16 two-bedroom apartments.
Four speakers opposed the proposal for the following reasons: Project will depreciate the prices
of nearby properties, project will worsen the already excessive traffic on Oakwood Avenue,
outdoor lighting, if excessive, may disturb people’s peace and sleep, dense housing
developments often tend to have more public safety issues than do sparser neighborhoods, the
case involves a self-created hardship, parking variance would result in a parking shortage, and
that residents in search of parking spaces will park in his/her parking lot, project requires too
many variances, the project will ruin the character of the neighborhood.
Applicant’s responded that lighting will be minimal, there will be a natural buffer around the
project, the height of the proposed apartments is lower than the height of the formerly proposed
condominiums.
Applicant’s clarifications of board questions:
o Rents will be “competitive, but market price”, around $ 1300 - $ 1500 per month per
apartment
ZB 2017-63 Richard Kimball requests the following for 18 112th Street (ID 80.63-13-2), in a
B-2 zone.
Use Variance for an architectural salvage business
Special Use Permit to allow for a residential use on the first floor
Area Variances for a parking deficiency, rear setback deficiency, and excessive lot
coverage.
APPROVED 5-0 (Conroy, McCann, McLaren, Nesich, Normile)
One speaker was in support of the proposal because there is plenty of on-street parking in the
area.
ZB 2017-64 Wilma and Miguel Rosa request Area Variances for a lot area deficiency,
excessive density, and a parking deficiency related to a proposal to create a second residential
unit in the basement of an existing 1-unit house at 89 Seventh Avenue (ID 90.47-5-5) in a R-2
zone.
WITHDRAWN
ZB 2017-65 David Klem requests Area Variances for a lot size deficiency and front setback
deficiency related to a proposal to convert the second floor of an accessory structure (garage)
into a dwelling unit, on a parcel with a pre-existing 1-unit house, at 39 Sheridan Avenue (ID
112.70-4-13) in a R-2 zone
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APPROVED 5-0 (Conroy, McCann, McLaren, Nesich, Normile)
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ZB 2017-66 Illuminati Holdings, LLC requests a Use Variance and Area Variances for a lot
area deficiency, and excessive density, related to a proposal to convert a church into 11 or 12
apartments, each with 4 bedrooms, at 144 Ninth Street (ID 101.39-6-11) in a R-2 zone.
DENIED 5-0 (Conroy, McCann, McLaren, Nesich, Normile)
It was determined that the applicant failed to demonstrate that:
a) the land, property, structure, or building in question cannot yield a reasonable economic
return if used only for a purpose allowed in the zone
b) The use shall alter the essential character of the neighborhood, nor depreciate aesthetic or
property values of the locality.
The church is currently vacant and deemed to be in good structural condition, although the
plumping has been stripped by thieves. It contains no asbestos. It is for sale on the open market.
This project would put in on the tax rolls for the first time ever.
The proposal involves 11 or 12 market rate apartments, each with 4 bedrooms. Although the
applicant (Illuminati Holdings) is not technically affiliated with RPI (Rensselaer Polytechnic
Institute), the apartments will be marketed only to RPI students, and nobody else.
One person spoke in support of the project stating that the church cannot be maintained as a
church.
Nine people spoke in opposition for the following reasons: The church could be redeveloped for
something other than housing, student housing can be noisy and chaotic, project will change the
neighborhood character, a concern that greenspace may be paved to create parking spaces,
increases in traffic, the applicant has not proven hardship, the neighborhood needs more owner-
occupants, 48 bedrooms is excessive, the building has been on the market for such a short time,
that the applicant cannot realistically prove the hardship that it cannot be used for any
conforming purpose,
Applicant’s rebuttals to opposition: There will always be a need to house RPI students in Troy,
because zoning is R-2, any other suitable use for a former church will also need variances, some
of those in opposition are opposed mainly because they themselves were unsuccessful in
purchasing the building, applicant will ensure that the project is well-maintained, applicant plans
to keep the existing greenspace
Applicant’s clarifications of board questions:
o applicant does not yet own the building
o project is expected to cost about $ 1,000,000
o density could be reduced from 11 or 12 to 9 or 10 apartments, but not to a lower density
than that
o The building will have 4 entrances/exits
o A comprehensive site plan has not yet been completed yet
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