Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingTroy, NY · February 6, 2018
Minutes
February 6, 2018 Zoning Board Meeting Minutes
Ms. Conroy called the meeting to order at 6:06 PM. She stated that there were only 4 members
present, and that if two members were in opposition to any application, it would not pass.
Roll call
ZB 2017-70 Capital Roots seeks Area Variances for a parking deficiency, front setback
deficiency, rear setback deficiency, and side setback deficiency, related to a proposal to
renovate and expand its existing building, add a new greenhouse, add 2 new parking lots,
and add additional parking on existing spaces (for a total of 44 new parking spaces), on the
following five (5) parcels:
594-598 River Street (ID 101.22-2-14) (HWD)
604 River Street (ID 101.22-2-18) (HWD)
8 Jay Street (ID 101.22-6-2) (HWD)
2525 Fifth Avenue (ID 101.22-6-3) (B-5)
2540 Fifth Avenue (ID 101.22-7-1) (B-5)
Eric Davenport of LEAP Architecture, and Jim Connors of Chazen Companies, both spoke on
behalf of the applicant.
The project will create 2 new parking spacesand a small amount of parkingon the other 3
project sites. The main building site will contain an incubator kitchen, community space, hub
distributions, central market location, and staff parking. The greenhouse site will include 3
energy-efficient greenhouse modules and
a small parking lot.
The applicant cannot conform to the zone setback requirements, because they need the
greenhouse modules to be a certain length and orientation for maximum solar efficiency. It
was noted that most of the surrounding buildings also violate the zone setback requirements.
In response to a question from John Normile, Jim Connors said that the project would add
sidewalks, and at least one crosswalk.
There was no public comment.
A motion by McLaren, seconded by Normile that the project is determined to be a Type 1 action,
with a negative declaration of environmental significance passed by a 4-0 vote.
A motion to Approve the Use Variance was made by Mr. Normile, and seconded by Ms.
McLaren, on the grounds that:
a) An undesirable change will NOT be produced in the character of the neighborhood.
b) Injury to nearby properties will not be created by granting variance
Conroy: Yes McCann: Yes McLaren: Yes Normile: Yes
The variance was APPROVED 4-0.
City Hall, 433 River Street, Troy, New York 12180
ZB 2018-01 United Armenian Calvary Congregational Church requests a Use Variance,
and Area Variances for a lot area deficiency and excessive density, related to a proposal to
convert a church into 8 apartments, with a combined total of 27 bedrooms and 13 parking
spaces, at 144 Ninth Street (ID 101.39-6-11) in a R-2 zone.
Michael Ginsberg, who is not the applicant, but who is the proposed buyer and developer,
described the project. His presentation included a Power Point presentation.
A similar project, ZB 2017-66, had been proposed on December 5, 2017 for the same
location. The difference is that ZB 2017-66 involved 12 apartments, with an expected 48
tenants, and ZB 2018-01 involves 8 apartments, with an expected 27 tenants And tenants are
The purchaser presented the project, as well as the realtor and an attorney for the purchaser.
They presented arguments that the proposal will not create a negative impact, that it is
unfeasible to redevelop except as an apartment building, that it is not feasible to develop as a
single or two family house, and that the hardship was not created by the congregation that
owns the property. ,
10 people spoke in opposition to the project arguing that the character of the neighborhood will
be negatively impacted, the density is too high, the hardship is self-created, and that it can
successfully be used for a different use.
A motion made by McLaren and seconded by Normile determining this is an UNLISTED action,
with a negative declaration of environmental significance was approved 4-0.
A motion to DENY the Use Variance was made by Mr. Normile, and seconded by Ms. McLaren,
on the grounds that:
a) The land, property, structure, or building in question CAN yield a reasonable economic return if
used only for a purpose allowed in the zone, because the zone was changed to R-2 by the city.
Conroy: No McCann: No McLaren: Yes Normile: Yes
Conroy explained her decision on the fact that:
1) the applicant made a concerted effort to meet with the neighbors, and reduced his
proposed occupancy by almost 50 %
2) the property has been vacant for so long, the neighbors have had adequate time to think
of an alternate use, before it even went on the market
3) As Jim Conroy said, he hasn’t received sufficient interest from potential buyers with
alternate uses in mind
McCann explained his decision on the fact that:
a) The project was downscaled by 50 %
b) The applicant reached out to a lot of people to see if they wished to buy it
The motion to DENY failed on a 2-2 vote.
At this, per Red Griffin’s advice, they decided to table it, pending legal advice from the City’s
Corporation Counsel.
A motion to TABLE, made by Conroy, seconded by McCann, succeeded on a 4-0 vote.
City Hall, 433 River Street, Troy, New York 12180
The project was TABLED.
ZB 2018-02 Brian Burns requests Area Variances to allow for a minimum lot width
deficiency and a parking deficiency, related to a proposal to convert a 2 bedroom
apartment into a 3 bedroom apartment, with no off-street parking, at 153 Fifth Avenue (ID
90.39-4-12) in a R-4 zone.
Joe Dana, project architect described the project on behalf of the applicant.
Nobody in the audience spoke in favor of the project, spoke in opposition to the project, or asked
any questions about the project.
Per a motion by McLaren, seconded by McCann:
The project was determined to be a Type 2 SEQR action, with a negative declaration of
environmental significance, by a 4-0 vote.
A motion to Approve the Area Variance was made by Mr. Normile, and seconded by Mr.
McCann, on the grounds that:
a) An undesirable change WILL NOT be produced in the character of the neighborhood.
b) Detriment to nearby properties will not be created by granting this area variance
Conroy: Yes McCann: Yes McLaren: Yes Normile: Yes
The motion to APPROVE succeeded on a 4-0 vote.
The project was APPROVED.
ZB 2018-03 1844 Land Development, LLC requests a Use Variance and Area Variances
for a parking deficiency, rear setback deficiency, excessive density, and excessive building
height, related to a proposal to construct 4 residential buildings on a vacant parcel, with 11
units apiece, for a total of 44 residential units, at 171 Oakwood Avenue (ID 90.56-2-3) in an
R-1 zone.
This project was WITHDRAWN.
The meeting was ADJOURNED.
City Hall, 433 River Street, Troy, New York 12180
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