Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingTroy, NY · July 5, 2023
Minutes
Catherine Conroy Steven Strichman
Chair Commissioner ofPlanning
Phone: (518) 279-7166
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NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING
Notice is hereby given that the Zoning Board of Appeals of the City of Troy, New York, will conduct a
public meeting at 6:00 P.M. on Wednesday, July 5 th, 2023, in City Council Chambers, 5th Floor, City
Hall, 433 River Street, to hear and decide on the proposals listed below.
The City of Troy Zoning Board of Appeals will be conducting in-person meetings, however members of
the public may attend and participate virtually.
Members of the public are encouraged to submit comments prior to the meeting via email or in-person
during the public comment period. All written public comment should be directed to
zoningboard@troyny.gov at least six (6) hours prior to the meeting. No other email address is monitored
for public comment.
6:00PM - Meeting called to order.
Board Members in Attendance
Catherine Conroy (CC), Jack McCann, Katie McLaren (KM) Yvie Dondes (YD)
Board Members Absent
John NoaniJe ON)
Also, in Attendance
Alaina Finan (Zoning Attorney), Angelina Apindem (Planning Technician), Eric Ferraro (Assistant
planner)
Administrative Items
Adoption of Meeting Minutes from May 3rd , by Resolution
• JM tioned t Meeting Minutes fi May 3rd; YD ded
Absent Yes No Abstain Recused
Cathy Conroy Yes
John Normile X
Jack McCann Yes
Yvie Dondes Yes
Katie McLaren Yes
• Motion to approve Meeting Minutes from May Yd, passed. 4-0.
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PO Box 752,
Troy, NY 12180
Zoning Board of Appeals,
City of Troy, NY
RE: Zoning Variance for the Proposed Development Project at 1818 5th Avenue – 7/5/23
Dear Colleagues:
I am writing to offer some reflections on the proposed development at 1818 5th Avenue. The project is
currently before the Zoning Board of Appeals for zoning variances on July 5, 2023. I am situated at 1825
5th Avenue, directly across the street from the proposed project. The project contains considerable
defects, and the request for a zoning variance does not meet the fundamental requirements for a zoning
variance.
The request for a zoning variance seeks to service a proposed very small surface parking lot of 12 to 14
parking spaces for a 4-story apartment building with 71 apartments - principally a building of tiny
apartments. This is fundamentally flawed in many ways.
The insufficiencies of this zoning variance application are articulated in further detail below.
The proposed building offers a significant degree of non-conformity within the neighborhood and will
alter the essential character of the neighborhood.
Previously, before the bank was built on the property, the street consisted of several single-family,
three-story buildings. In the 1960’s or 1970’s these buildings were removed, and the current bank was
built. Now a developer seeks to replace all this with a 4-story apartment building, principally made up of
71 tiny apartments and simultaneously provide no additional automobile parking. This will have a
significant impact on the local community.
In fact, this project will produce a net loss in parking spaces for the local community. The number of
parking spaces on the project site, as it currently sits, offers 17 marked parking spaces. There are two to
three other unmarked spaces where cars could park in high demand situations. For the past 5 to 6
decades or so, these parking spaces were generally, not supposed to be available to residents during
business hours, however, they were available outside of business hours and for overnight parking.
The developer plans about 12 spaces to be constructed with the proposed project. This will take away
the 17 to 20 spaces and replace it with 12 spaces dedicated to residents of the 1818 building only. This
is grossly insufficient. Accordingly, there is actually, a net loss in parking with this project. The Institute
of Transportation Engineers (ITE) recommends, for this type of residential development, about 50 - 55
parking spaces for automobiles. This number is based on widely accepted calculations from data bases
in the ITE Trip Generation and Parking Generation Manuals. The offer of restricted parking by the
developer is a serious flaw. In my view, downtown Troy should not be the place for some sort of
unusual trip generation experiment.
I also note that Rosenblum’s projects at The News and Vicina were built with an appropriate number of
parking spaces. These projects seem to be in compliance with the ITE standards. This project is grossly
out of compliance. Why? It is because the project pro forma for this project, at 1818 5th Avenue, offers
a maximized return without the provision of any real parking.
Maximizing economic return is not a basis for a zoning variance. I suggest that the provision of parking
does not need to compromise investment return. However, to achieve this goal, the project will need
redesign with a more significant build out on Union Street. Consequently, this variance should be
denied.
The proposed variance will result in an undesirable impact on the neighborhood – less parking, less
sunlight, more traffic congestion, no Traffic Impact Study has been Undertaken.
The developer suggests that the retirees, widows, and widowers that will live in this building, if they
have a car, they can walk to and from the developers parking lot near the Vicina building. This is not a
viable solution. The developer has also suggested that area parking lots are lightly used. In some
respects, this is true. Two private “M parking” lots 2.5 to 3.5 blocks away, are lightly used. However,
they charge $ 150.00 per month per parking spot. And the City municipal garage charges $ 75.00 per
month. The Zoning Board of Appeals should not allow the developer to impose these costs on the
existing residents.
Residents will end up parking on the street, in an area already facing parking availability stresses. They
will also be running in and out of their apartments every 2 hours, all day long, to avoid parking tickets. It
will be a parking nightmare. This will lead to more traffic congestion and more traffic accidents. This
scenario is incompatible with the principles described in the City of Troy Comprehensive Plan -
specifically, “promoting the city center as a key area for residential growth” and “promoting job growth
and competitiveness of the city’s employment base.” In addition, it is the very antithesis of traffic
calming and encourages conflict between residents, automobiles, bicyclists, and pedestrians.
Moreover, the Troy Comprehensive Plan encourages the provision of structured parking with
development blocks in the downtown area. Please also note, if the developer can provide sufficient
parking at Vicina and The News, they should be able to do the same here.
This variance should be denied.
The Need for the variance is due to the Developer’s self-created difficulty and objective to maximize
economic return.
Rosenblum has designed a project that needs a variance. It could have been designed to be in
compliance with the law. Instead, the developer has offered a project design intended to maximize
return and is not in compliance with the existing zoning. The developer has been inflexible to any
redesign of the project that offers a different unit mix or any additional parking – even parking that is
comparable to the parking offered at Vicina and The News.
In addition, the developer has offered a development mix of apartments and units and has not been
willing to consider alternative development mixes, or any significant redesign, or any build out on Union
Street. The developer designed a project to maximize return and seeks a variance to that end.
This variance should be denied.
The Developer has Not Considered Alternatives to the Project that would be in compliance with the
Existing Zoning Ordinance
The developer has not considered alternatives that would meet the requirements of existing zoning. In
fact, the developer has been resistant to making any changes to the project, other than changes to the
design and materials on the building façade. The Union Street side of the project site should carry more
of the development project. In fact, the more intense, higher density portion of the development
should be on the Union Street side of the development, not on 5th Avenue. The first-floor space, on
Union Street, should be used to provide structured parking, with a mix of residential types on the floors
above the parking, instead of just tiny apartments. As proposed, it provides a small handful of surface
parking spaces and a net loss of parking for the local community.
We seek denial of the variance or at least, a postponement of a decision on the variance, until the
details of the development characteristics itself are refined at the planning commission
level. Refinement is necessary to ensure compliance with the City of Troy Comprehensive Plan, the
needs and concerns of the immediate community and downtown Troy (parking, sunlight, traffic impacts,
development density issues, and all the other issues identified to date, etc.). After refinement of the
proposed project, zoning variances may not be necessary.
At this time, the sought-after variances should be denied.
Thank you.
Wayne Thomas Oakes
Wayne Thomas Oakes
From: geri de Seve
To: zoningboard
Subject: Project at 1818 Fifth Avenue
Date: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 11:35:52 AM
Members of Troy Zoning Board of Appeals:
I am writing to ask that you deny the variance requests of the Rosenblum Companies, the
Developer of 1818 Fifth Avenue.
The proposed development of this massive building will have a great negative impact on the
character of the old and historic neighborhood surrounding it in terms of blocking sunlight to
neighbors across the street, causing parking issues and causing infrastructure overload, to
name a few of the problems foreseen.
As a resident of the neighborhood, I am not objecting to the total project, but to the size of the
building and number of units. A building of four stories looming from across the street does
not at all match the brownstones that existed there before. At an average height of 40 feet,
those buildings were far lower than the 53 foot height the developer proposes. A building that
is three stories high and set back 10 feet from the face of the neighboring Church tower, which
is consistent with the buildings that were there, would be more compatible with the
neighborhood and would not cut off sunlight to our residences across the street.
This development with its proposed 71 units will have a huge impact on the limited parking
spaces available to residents and business customers alike. The developer has not considered
other building plans which could help alleviate this problem, such as building all the way to
Union Street and putting parking in the envelope of the building.
By treating Union Street as an Alley, the developer ignores the history and potential to restore
its prominence. The Phinney Design project is proposing plantings and an outdoor cafe on the
Union Street side. What Rosenblum proposes is another parking lot next door - and without
the several beautiful trees that line the site currently.
In addition, the type of building proposed would be more prone to fires than buildings using
more substantial materials, putting more pressure on our already over-burdened Troy Fire
Department, as Eric Wisher, representing the TFD said in his letter to the Planning
Commission.
The Developer has refused to compromise on the size of the building and the number of
apartment units, saying the numbers don't work for them with a smaller project, yet they
constantly refuse to show their numbers when requested. How much do we as neighbors have
to sacrifice in order to provide profits to this developer who is taking away our rights to a safe,
healthy, compatible environment. And the developer will receive a taxpayer funded 2.6
million dollar Restore New York grant to take away those rights.
So as a resident of Historic Fifth Avenue, I request rejection of the zoning variances for the
proposed 1818 Fifth Avenue project as it is currently proposed, on the grounds that this project
will greatly change the character of the neighborhood. It will offer a threat to the health and
welfare of the neighborhood in that it will block sunlight to the residences across Fifth
Avenue, will cause huge problems with parking and an overload on our infrastructure and on
our Troy Fire Department.
Thank you for your consideration.
Sincerely,
Geri de Seve
1833 Fifth Avenue
Troy, NY 12180
gadeseve@gmail.com
518-421-4723
Citizen Petition to the Troy, NY Planning Commission
and Zoning Board of Appeals
1818 5th Ave:
Please develop to
enhance the neighborhood
We, the undersigned, care about the beauty and integrity of Troy NY’s historic Victorian
downtown. There is a proposed box apartment building at the site of Citizen’s Bank on
5th between Broadway and Fulton that would clash with Troy’s Gilded Age character
and place stress on the infrastructure of the downtown. We oppose this project in its
current form. While we encourage smart development of the site, it is important the
building(s) match the scale and character of the surrounding neighborhood. The current
proposal has a long, drab metal front. The structure will tower over the brownstones
across the street, blocking natural light and creating an unsightly view for existing
residents.
Additionally, the developer proposes creating “micro apartment units” of just 400 square
feet. (20’ by 20’). These are ridiculously small apartments and clearly designed to
maximize pro t by stacking myriad tiny apartments around a central staircase and
elevator. Added units also stress city infrastructure as well as re, police and medical
responders Demands on water and sewer, parking, the electric grid, city services, etc.
can be minimized by decreasing the number of units from 70 to 21 (akin to seven three-
family townhouses) and constructing in a “townhouse” style that pays homage and
respect to our historic downtown.
This revised vision would ful ll’s Troy’s mission to promote the health, safety and beauty
of Troy, as stated in its Comprehensive Plan. We urge the Zoning Board and Planning
Commission to reject the proposal in its current form. We also encourage the developer,
Rosenblum Companies of Albany to go on a “listening tour” of the neighborhood as a
way to gain consensus from neighbors about an acceptable design. Thank you for your
time,
The undersigned: (Of 287 signatures, 213 are residents of The City of Troy,
including many immediate neighbors of the site.)
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Petition to Planning Commission and Zoning Board of Appeals for Proposed
Building between Union Street and Fifth Avenue in Downtown Troy
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To: zoningboard@troyny. gov
From:Bruce Rubin. 456 Broadway, Troy. NY
Re: Objection to Proposed Variance at I 818 5'r' Avenue Project
Date: July 5, 2023
I have owned, lived in, and worked at 456 Broadway - since October 2002. I respectf'ully object
to and request a denial of the proposed variance. I am located very near the intersection of Broadway
and 5'r'Avenue. This is very near the site ofthe proposed variance.
Before considering this variance, it is important to consider whether this variance ofan offset
is the first olmany steps - of the entire proposed 70 micro unit. studio apartment project on .55 acres
with an allowance of at most 15 off street parking places.
First. with 70 micro units, allowing an offset - which I understand is to provide for this 15 unit
parking area would be the first step to create a very difficult parking problem for 5'r'Avenue and
definitely Broadway. At times, parking can be very difficult. Without proper planning by this
developer - my office, the many restaurants, businesses, and homes on Broadway could be hit with a
potentially catastrophic parking situation.
Second, since this project is also before Troy's planning board, no decision should be made.
until the developer provides full details oftheir intentions - to this four to eight block neighborhood.
Fragmented decisions - without consideration - ofthe other dimensions ofthis project - can
potentially create even bigger problems.
Third, this proposed project on a very small property - is in a beautiful, quiet, centuries old
neighborhood. A reduced offset - would not be a suitable, or fitting plan. I have only been here for a
little over 20 years. For decades before and after my arrival, my neighbors have paid their taxes, and
kept this area beautiful. I thank them for this.
Thank vou for vour consideration
Bruce B. Rubin
Meave M. Tooher, Partner
John L. Barone, Partner
Richard Webster, Senior Staff Attorney
Helene G. Goldberger, Of Counsel
24 Aviation Road, Suite 204, Albany, NY 12205
TEL (518) 432-4100 FAX (518) 734-0075
June 30, 2023
Zoning Board of Appeals Members
City of Troy
433 River Street
Troy, NY 12180
Re: Area Variance Application
PLZBA 2023 0033 1818 5th Ave
Dear Zoning of Appeals Members:
We have been retained by a group of residents and businesses (the “Fifth Avenue
Neighbors”) regarding this proposed development in downtown Troy. A number of those
residents live directly across the street from the lot that is proposed to be developed. The
proposed development would involve a four story building that holds 71 apartments, of which
approximately 40 are “micro studios” of around 400 sq. feet. The development is within the
Downtown Mixed Use zone and the Downtown I neighborhood. The Zoning Board of Appeals
designated its action as Unlisted, while the Planning Commission designated the proposed
development as a Type 1 action.
At four stories and 53 feet the proposed building is higher than the surrounding buildings
and would shade residents in brownstones on the other side of Fifth Avenue. It therefore fails to
meet a core objective of the zoning which is to “preserve the historic architectural scale and
character” of the area. Troy Zoning Code § 285-28. In addition, the design of the development
appears to treat Union Street as secondary to Fifth Avenue. The Fifth Avenue façade is close to
the edge of the sidewalk and incorporates architectural details designed to create an attractive
streetscape.1 Although the parking is screened from Fifth Avenue, it is adjacent to Union Street,
where there is a 52 foot setback. As the application acknowledges, this approach grossly violates
the requirement for a maximum setback of 10 feet in the Downtown I neighborhood. Id. at §
285-40. The code states that “No lot shall be developed or re-developed except as provided by
the standards and guidance in the Development Intensity Zone in which the lot is located as
established in §285-33 through §285-40 of this Article and the Development Intensity Zone Map,
except those located in a PDD-Planned Development District.” Id. at § 285-32. Thus, as the
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Although not relevant to this decision, there are issues crated by the the Fifth Avenue façade being set further
forward than the historic building on this lot, which leads to the side of the Victorious Life Christian Church being
obscured.
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developer appears to have noticed, in the absence of an area variance, this site plan cannot be
approved.
For an area variance “the applicant must provide evidence of a practical difficulty
imposed by the meeting of the requirements” Id. at 285-33 D. and E. In addition, for a minor
variance, the application must include “a letter or oral testimony from the applicant's
immediately adjacent residential neighbor indicating no objection to the proposed variance.” Id.
at 285-33 E. No such letter is contained in the developer’s application. That is not surprising.
This letter shows that the neighbors do indeed object to this variance. Further evidence of the
widespread local opposition to this project in its current form is the attached petition signed by
287 people, 213 of which live in the City of Troy.
Furthermore, the application fails to show that there is any practical difficulty in meeting
the zoning requirements. These requirements are designed to serve the overall planning goal
which is to “preserve the historic architectural scale and character” and create a “strong
pedestrian environment.” See Application PLZBA 2023 0033. In addition, this project has
received a $2.6M Restore New York grant to improve the neighborhood. It should therefore be
held to the highest standards.
From the application it is apparent that the applicant does not intend to improve or restore
Union Street at all. It claims erroneously that Union Street is like an alley, providing parking
and service access. The relevant part of Union is between Broadway and Fulton. It is a wide
street, with a building that will be an attractive architect’s headquarters on one side of the lot on
which the proposed development would be located and a building with an attractive red brick
façade on the other side. That building is at the back of the Victorious Life Christian Church. A
revival of Union Street is already starting, and this development could further improve the
situation. Historically, the front of Troy’s Union Station stood on the east side of the street and
Union Street provided access to it. It was therefore a major thoroughfare. Simply put, Union
Street is not and never has been an alley. This development provides an opportunity to further
improve the pedestrian environment and restore Union Street closer to its historic character.
The very purpose of this project is to enhance the downtown, by eliminating a vacant
building and replacing it with a building that enhances the neighborhood. By seeking a variance
the developer is missing a huge opportunity to restore the frontage on Union Street as well as
Fifth Avenue.
The applicant carries the burden of proof to show that there is a practical difficulty with
meeting the zoning, but the reasons given for being unable to redesign the building to conform to
zoning are vague and hard to credit. This is a building that is being designed specifically for this
purpose on this lot. There is no reason given why the footprint of the building could not be
expanded, a portion of the ground floor be given over to parking, and the height of the building
reduced to three stories. That approach would conform to the zoning, greatly improve Union
Street, and reduce the objections of the neighbors to the excessive height of the current proposal.
Tooher & Barone LLP
June 29, 2023
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When the developer states that the proposed change will have no adverse effect on the
neighborhood, it fails to take account of the shading issues the current design creates and the
potential benefit of a conforming redesign. The excessive height could be eliminated and the
streetscape on Union Street greatly enhanced. As the developer correctly states, the broader goal
of Recode “to protect and enhance community character, increase opportunities for people to
live, work, and play in mixed-use neighborhoods, and support development practices that are
sustainable and resilient.” Here, there is no reason why this development could not enhance
community character by designing a building that conforms to the zoning. This is especially true
because the development has received a $2.6M Restore New York grant to improve the
neighborhood. Therefore, this application should be rejected.
In addition to the primary issue of there being no reason to grant a variance, there are also
issues with compliance with the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act
(“SEQRA”). Continuing the theme of vagueness and lack of quantification, the application gives
no estimate of existing traffic or estimates of future traffic. Therefore, there appears to be no
basis for the finding in the Full Environmental Assessment Form (“FEAF”) that the traffic
impacts will not be substantial.
There are also other aspects of the project that have not been addressed to the extent
required by SEQRA. Visual and Aesthetic impacts must be considered under SEQRA and DEC
even has a policy for assessing such impacts.2 Even though neighbors have expressed concerns
about the shading of their homes by the proposed building, no assessment of this potentially
significant issue has been carried out. This must be done to ensure that SEQRA requirements are
met because the decision regarding the variance could determine building height.
In conclusion, there are several issues that must be dealt with before the ZBA could
approve this proposal. However, the ZBA can and should reject the application because it fails
to show why the developer would have difficulty meeting the zoning requirements. In fact, it
appears eminently possible for the building to be redesigned to conform with zoning. Therefore
the ZBA should reject the application and the developer should then redesign its proposal to
provide attractive streetscapes on both Fifth Avenue and Union Street, reduce the building height
to three stories, lower the density, and provide adequate parking within the envelope of the
redesigned building.
Thank you for your careful review of this matter.
Respectfully submitted,
s/ Richard Webster
Richard Webster, Esq
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DEC Program Policy - Assessing and Mitigating Visual and Aesthetic Impacts - NYS Dept. of Environmental
Conservation
From: noreply@civicplus.com
To: Angelina.Apindem
Subject: Online Form Submittal: Submit a Zoning Board Application for Use Variance
Date: Wednesday, August 16, 2023 10:10:39 AM
Submit a Zoning Board Application for Use Variance
Information
You may use this form to submit an application online to our Planning Department
for an Area Variance or you may download the Application for Area Variance
Form. You may also submit an application in person at Troy City Hall.
If you have any questions regarding the application or the application process,
please call our planning assistant 518-279-7169.
Applicant Information
Applicant Type Owner
First Name Joseph
Last Name Ciliento
Address 600 Consaulus Avenue
City Schenectady
State NY
Zip Code 12306
Phone Number 15188576394
Email Address jcstruc@gmail.com
Application Details
I hereby petition the Zoning Board of the City of Troy to grant a variation on the
following property and Zoning Code Section(s), to allow the following as described
in the following or shown on the accompanying drawings which have been denied
by the Building Inspector, as specified on the attached Notice of Noncompliance.
Property Location 90.70-2-1
(include tax map ID if
available)
Zoning Code MU-02
Section(s)
Describe your Purchased the property at 1 Ingalls Ave in November of 2022
application as with the intention of cleaning up the property and leasing out to
proposed. tenants such as it was being used for. Make note the previous
owner operated a drilling company out that location and a sign
company out of the other half of the building. so as a small
developer i figured this was a good opportunity for me to
continue with that type of use for the property. I proceeded to
close in early January and started the clean up process soon
there after to make ready for new tenants. But i have run into
some issues saying that im not zoned for these types of business
because of a rezoning that happened in late April of this year. of
which i had no idea was happening and how the potential
changes would have impacted this property. So at this point i am
requesting a variance to allow the initial uses prior to the zoning
change since i purchased it under those terms.
Demonstrate to the Based on my above comments there is no use that per the new
Board of Zoning zoning that the property can be modified to accommodate those
Appeals that for every types of options without basically demolitioning the building and
building a completely different building. This would not only
use permitted by the
create hardship it would not even be bankable for a loan because
Zoning Code under the
of the limited uses for the property. Im at a complete loss since
regulations for that
there should be consideration made based on the actual building
district in which the
that are in those zones.
property is located that
the property cannot
yield a reasonable
return, and provide
financial evidence to
prove this conclusion.
Explain how the Mine is unique because of the structure as it sits it has a large
alleged hardship warehouse component with a small office area which makes it
relating to your ideal for some smaller commercial companies that need indoor
garage space and some office to operate. The other part also
property is unique
this property has is a large yard for storing equipment cars and
when you compare it to
basically some products etc. which again is associated with a
similar properties and
smaller construction of service business. there is no other use
does not apply to a
that i can see to this building that will allow food or entertainment
substantial portion of type of business i that location.
the neighborhood.
Explain why the The local area is occupied by numerous companies such as what
character of the i propose so there really isn't an altering from what's currently
neighborhood will not operating in that area. Not only that i commit to all my locations
to stay up on the tenants to maintain the buildings while they are
be altered if this use
leasing and my leases allow me to terminate if they to not follow
variance is granted.
those rules
Explain how the The hardship arose because for some reason im being regulated
hardship relating to the by the new zoning for that area which i believe should not be
use of the property applied because i became owner months before that was
enacted to that area. Not knowing the final outcome of the
arose and why the
decisions made by the city is nearly impossible to forecast for
hardship was not self-
any rezoning. So when i took ownership i saw what it was being
created (Purchasing
used for and its use history so i figured this would be a good
property without
expansion to my investment. I have updated and cleaned up the
checking to see if the building i also believe helps the areas initial viability to draw more
existing or proposed people to those areas. The the place was being handled was
use is legal under more of a violation than me trying to interject new business in
zoning is a self-created that area.
hardship).
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Agenda
Wm. Patrick Madden Steven Strichman
Mayor Commissioner of Planning
Christopher Nolin Phone: (518) 279-7166
Deputy Mayor steven.strichman@troyny.gov
Catherine Conroy
Chair
Zoning Board of Appeals
433 River St., Ste. 5001
Troy, New York 12180
NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING
Notice is hereby given that the Zoning Board of Appeals of the City of Troy, New York, will conduct a public
meeting at 6:00 P.M. on Wednesday, July 5th, 2023, in City Council Chambers, 5th Floor, City Hall, 433
River Street, to hear and decide on the proposals listed below.
The City of Troy Zoning Board of Appeals will be conducting in-person meetings, however members of the
public may attend and participate virtually.
Members of the public are encouraged to submit comments prior to the meeting via email or in-person
during the public comment period. All written public comment should be directed to
zoningboard@troyny.gov at least six (6) hours prior to the meeting. No other email address is monitored
for public comment.
Administrative Items
Adoption of Meeting Minutes from May 3rd by Resolution
New Business
PLZBA 2023 0033 1818 5th Ave (101.53-6-1 | 0.55 ac. | DMU/ DT1)
Area Variances- SEQR Unlisted
The applicant, The Rosenblum Development Corporation, is proposing to redevelop the former
bank building into a 4-story multifamily building with 71 residential units. The following area
variances are requested:
o The maximum front setback required is 10 ft, 52 ft is proposed, relief of 42 ft requested.
o The minimum front setback required for accessory use (parking) is 30 ft: 4 ft existing,
relief of 26 ft is requested.
PLZBA 2023 0034 3075 6th Ave (90.70-3-1.4| 0.19 ac. | Two Family Residential| N III
Use and Area Variances- SEQR Unlisted
The Applicant, Emily Streeter, is proposing to convert this former office building into 14 studio apartments.
The following variances are requested:
o Use variance- from Two Family Residential to Multifamily use.
o The average minimum gross floor area required is 700 sf per unit, 7,021 sf is existing, relief of 2,779
sf requested.
Written by Angie Apindem Executive Secretary. For additional information, visit: https://www.troyny.gov/government/boards-
commissions/zoning-board-of-appeals/agenda-minutes/. As required by the Americans with Disabilities Act, auxiliary aids and services are
available upon request. Please give one-week advance notice for services needed.
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City of Troy Agenda, July 5th, 2023
Zoning Board of Appeals
PLZBA 2023 0035 150 6th Ave (90.39-5-44 |0.14 ac | Two Family Residential |N 11
Use and Area Variances- SEQR Unlisted
he applicant, Amijoh Productions Inc., is proposing to convert the former Haskell School into a 20-unit
apartment building. The following variances are requested.
o Use variance- from Two Family Residential to Multifamily use.
o The average minimum gross floor area required is 700 sf per unit, 2,036 sf is existing, relief of 11,964
sf requested.
Zoning Code Terms
DMU-Downtown Mixed Use
DT - Downtown
N -Neighborhood
Written by Angie Apindem Executive Secretary. For additional information, visit: https://www.troyny.gov/government/boards-
commissions/zoning-board-of-appeals/agenda-minutes/. As required by the Americans with Disabilities Act, auxiliary aids and services are
available upon request. Please give one-week advance notice for services needed.
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