Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingTroy, NY · June 5, 2024
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City of Troy Agenda
Zoning Board of Appeals June 5th, 2024
New Business
PLZBA 2024 0022 125 River St (100.68-1-1. /1|3.23ac| DMU| Downtown II)
Area Variance -SEQRA (Unlisted).
The applicant, Taylor II LLC, is proposing to construct two new mixed-use buildings consisting of 308
residential units and 2,135 sf of ground-floor retail space. Each building will consist of a six-story building
built on top of a one-story parking structure. The following variances are requested for the project:
• Front side setback required is 0 ft min. – 10 ft max, 11.5 ft and 13.2 ft are proposed for building
2 and 3 respectively. Seeking relief of 1.5 ft and 3.2 ft for building 2 and 3 respectively.
• Side setback required is 0 ft min. – 10 ft max, 24.6 ft and 35 ft are proposed for building 2 and 3
respectively. Seeking relief of 14.6 ft and 25 ft for building 2 and 3 respectively.
• The applicant is seeking relief from ‘freestanding parking structures and surface parking lots
shall not be built adjacent to the river or any public pathway easement to provide parking
adjacent to the Hudson River. ‘
• The applicant is seeking relief from ‘buildings with four or more floors shall have a step back of
at least 10 feet on each floor above the third floor on the riverside to mitigate the visual impact
of buildings from the river.’
• The required building frontage is 80% min-100% max, 44.8% is proposed, a relief of 35.2% is
requested.
• LZ wanted to know if the project was a type 1 action or unlisted.
o Alaina Finan (council)- SEQRA done by the ZBA is specifically for the area variances.
• Applicant presentation.
• Board members deliberation and questions to applicant.
o Lindsay requested that the applicant share the revised TDMP when its ready.
o LZ requested for the congress St project design.
o SM wanted to know more about partnership agreements.
o YD requested correspondence between applicant and DOT.
o LZ requested applicant to provide actual easement from DOT.
o LZ requested applicant to provide a map of utilities.
• Applicant response:
• Request for public comment: Received public comment from Russ Brooks via email (attached
to meeting minutes).
• YD motioned to table application to next month; SM seconded.
Absent Yes No Abstain Recused
Lindsay Zefting Yes
John Normile ✓
Jack McCann ✓
Yvie Dondes Yes
Stephen Miner Yes
• Motion to table application passed 3-0.
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• SM motion to adjoin meeting at 6:45 pm, LZ seconded.
Absent Yes No Abstain Recused
Lindsay Zefting Yes
John Normile ✓
Jack McCann ✓
Yvie Dondes Yes
Stephen Miner Yes
• Motion to adjoin meeting at 6:45 pm passed, 3-0.
Written by Angie Apindem Executive Secretary. For additional information, visit: https://www.troyny.gov/government/boards-
commissions/zoning-board-of-appeals/agenda-minutes/. As required by the Americans with Disabilities Act, auxiliary aids and services are
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Zoning Board of Appeals
433 River St., Ste. 5001
Troy, NY 12180
Public Mee ng - Wednesday, June 5, 2024
Please make my comments part of the public record for this mee ng as I will not be able to
a end in person or by Zoom.
PLZBA 2024 0022 125 River St (100.68-1-1. /1|3.23ac| DMU| Downtown II)
Area Variance -SEQRA (Unlisted).
Please consider the following:
The project is too large for the site given the Applicant is trying to design around the
ramps to the Congress Street bridge. All five of their requests for a variance arise from
trying to fit the project inside of the bridge ramps.
The project needs to slow down and go back to a design based upon the one developed
through many community and planning mee ngs. This plan was presented to the
Planning Commission in October 2020. A rendering from that applica on is a ached for
reference.
I have heard three reasons that the Applicant must design with the ramps remaining. All
are ques onable:
o The ramps are structural and can’t be removed.
Only a por on of the ramps are structural. The structural por on of the
ramps ends at the pylon where the structural steel ends. This needs to be
confirmed as part of the Congress Street Bridge Project. A Google Maps
photo of the site showing this is a ached.
o It is too costly to remove the ramps.
This can be incorporated into the Congress Street Bridge Project, which
now has funding and is going to final design. I assume that this is what
was planned in the October 2020 applica on.
o NYS DOT has a permanent easement on the ramps.
While this may be true, you can request the NYS DOT to declare the ramp
land surplus to their needs. This also can be done as part of the Congress
Street Bridge Project.
The Applicant is reques ng five variances. Gran ng any of these variances sets an
extremely bad precedent given the fact that the salt pile is finally being moved and
extensive development of the riverfront south of this site is in the works.
I request that the Zoning Board of Appeals recommend to the Applicant that they slow
down, and design based on the projected Congress Street Bridge Project.
With the ramps removed, the added land may allow the Project to be redesigned to be
in compliance with the Zoning Ordinance.
I do feel that the Project will s ll have too many units and will be difficult to meet the
Zoning requirements.
What is the rush to finalize a design when a major project going through the middle of
their site is about to be finalized?
If the reason is that there are financing deadlines to meet, then this is a self-imposed
hardship and not a valid reason for a zoning variance.
Respec ully submi ed
Russell Brooks
37 1st Street
Troy, NY 12180
(518) 421-8194
rbrooks5147@gmail.com
The following is more in the scope of the Planning Commission but if it has any bearing on your
review, please consider the SEQRA issues below:
The Project is classified as SEQRA “Unlisted” on the Agenda.
o According to the NYS SEQRA Handbook the Project should be Type 1.
o From the SEQRA Handbook
617.4(b)(5)
“construc on of new residen al units that meet or exceed the following
thresholds:
10 units in municipali es that have not adopted zoning or subdivision
regula ons;
50 units not to be connected (at the commencement of habita on) to
exis ng community or public water and sewerage systems including
sewage treatment works;
In a city, town or village having a popula on of 150,000 persons or less,
200 units to be connected (at the commencement of habita on) to
exis ng community or public water and sewerage systems including
sewage treatment works;
617.4(b)(9)
any Unlisted ac on (unless the ac on is designed for the preserva on of
the facility or site), that exceeds 25 percent of any threshold established
in this sec on, occurring wholly or par ally within, or substan ally
con guous to, any historic building, structure, facility, site or district or
prehistoric site that is listed on the Na onal Register of Historic Places
(Volume 36 of the Code of Federal Regula ons, parts 60 and 63, which is
incorporated by reference pursuant to sec on 617.17 of this Part), or that
is listed on the State Register of Historic Places or that has been
determined by the Commissioner of the Office of Parks, Recrea on and
Historic Preserva on to be eligible for lis ng on the State Register of
Historic Places pursuant to sec ons 14.07 or 14.09 of the Parks,
Recrea on and Historic Preserva on Law;
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Revitalize Riverside: Phase 1
Phase 2 as originally planned and
presented during the community
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Phase 1 as originally proposed
before being changed to the 7-story
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Phase 3 as originally planned
and presented during the
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October 08, 2020 SD Submission
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547 River Street WRT 143 Main Street
Drawn By Key Plan 125 River Street
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Sheet No.: Project No. Revisions: DR Pilla 1301 N 31st Street
Checked By 31-15 14th Street
Key Plan: Civil Engineers 1700 Market Street, Suite 2800
Troy, NY 12180
Taylor I, LLC
Nyack, NY 10960
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Structural Engineers
Troy, NY 12180
Landscape Architects
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Philadelphia, PA 19121
- Long Island City, NY 11106
Issue: SD Submission
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Skyline Engineering Dattner Architects
Tax Map ID: 100.68-1-1./1 Revitalize Riverside:
Philadelphia, PA 19103
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Agenda
Carmella Mantello Randy Coburn
Mayor Commissioner of Planning
Phone: 518-279-7166
Seamus Donnelly Randy.Coburn@troyny.gov
Deputy Mayor
Zoning Board of Appeals
433 River St., Ste. 5001
Troy, New York 12180
NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING
Notice is hereby given that the Zoning Board of Appeals of the City of Troy, New York, will conduct a public
meeting at 6:00 P.M. on Wednesday, June 5th, 2024, in City Council Chambers, 5th Floor, City Hall, 433
River Street, to hear and decide on the proposals listed below.
The City of Troy Zoning Board of Appeals will be conducting in-person meetings, however members of the
public may attend and participate virtually.
Members of the public are encouraged to submit comments prior to the meeting via email or in-person
during the public comment period. All written public comment should be directed to
zoningboard@troyny.gov at least six (6) hours prior to the meeting. No other email address is monitored
for public comment.
Administrative Items
Adoption of Meeting Minutes from May 1st by Resolution
New Business
PLZBA 2024 0022 125 River St (100.68-1-1. /1|3.23ac| DMU| Downtown II)
Area Variance -SEQRA (Unlisted).
The applicant, Taylor II LLC, is proposing to construct two new mixed-use buildings consisting of 308
residential units and 2,135 sf of ground-floor retail space. Each building will consist of a six-story building
built on top of a one-story parking structure. The following variances are requested for the project:
o Front side setback required is 0 ft min. – 10 ft max, 11.5 ft and 13.2 ft are proposed for building
2 and 3 respectively. Seeking relief of 1.5 ft and 3.2 ft for building 2 and 3 respectively.
o Side setback required is 0 ft min. – 10 ft max, 24.6 ft and 35 ft are proposed for building 2 and 3
respectively. Seeking relief of 14.6 ft and 25 ft for building 2 and 3 respectively.
o The applicant is seeking relief from ‘freestanding parking structures and surface parking lots
shall not be built adjacent to the river or any public pathway easement to provide parking
adjacent to the Hudson River. ‘
o The applicant is seeking relief from ‘buildings with four or more floors shall have a step back of
at least 10 feet on each floor above the third floor on the riverside to mitigate the visual impact
of buildings from the river.’
o The required building frontage is 80% min-100% max, 44.8% is proposed, relief of 35.2% is
requested.
Written by Angie Apindem Executive Secretary. For additional information, visit: https://www.troyny.gov/government/boards-
commissions/zoning-board-of-appeals/agenda-minutes/. As required by the Americans with Disabilities Act, auxiliary aids and services are
available upon request. Please give one-week advance notice for services needed.
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City of Troy Agenda, June 5th,2024
Zoning Board of Appeals
Zoning Terms
DMU=Downtown Mixed Use
DT = Downtown
MF = Multi-family
MU = Mixed Use
SF = Single Family
N = Neighborhood
C-I = Campus – Institutional
C/C = Civic/Campus
Written by Angie Apindem Executive Secretary. For additional information, visit: https://www.troyny.gov/government/boards-
commissions/zoning-board-of-appeals/agenda-minutes/. As required by the Americans with Disabilities Act, auxiliary aids and services are
available upon request. Please give one-week advance notice for services needed.
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